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GPS+Maps+WM6+Tokyo. Help :)

Hi Everyone,
Well I have my GPS and TyTN up and running smoothly but there is a surprisingly big lack of maps and/or software that seems to cover Japan/Tokyo. With this country being GPS mad there must be something available I can use without having to resort to google maps and downloading stuff all the time. TomTom does not do Japan (??) So perhaps a Japanese local offering?
Anyone in Tokyo using an interesting solution.
Thanks,
Ray

FYI - Mapking seems to offer a Tokyo map.

I was astounded at first, too that it's so hard to find any decent maps for Japan. None of the big players seems to cover the land of the rising sun. But it's not that surprising if you take into account that (nearly) everybody is using GPS in their cars or on their cellphones (which all have to have GPS since last April).
That said, check out www.mgmaps.com. It's a Java midlet application, but a darn good one! It allows you to *download Google Maps tiles of your chosen area and store them on your card*. Saves you time and data once you cut out the map(s) you need. It'll take you a while, but it's a great and free solution that even offers navigation instructions in some areas (I think Google doesn't cover all of Japan right now).
The other solution would be http://uud.info/shop/catalog/contact_us.php?language=en where you can buy maps for Garmin Map Source that you can use on you PPC if you have the according software. Usually Garmin bundles with their GPS hardware, but they recently released a program that enables you to just use your own (builtin) GPS. I hope one of those

Internet connection required for GPS???

Hello, I downloaded a GPS program that is supposed track where i've been when its running, no maps or anything just a line. My question is, Why does my phone keep connecting to the net when I start the program and turn on the GPS? Does the net need to be connected to use the GPS?
TIA
Si Cwan

Only if you have aGPS enabled or if your program requires it.

I doubt you could be too much more vague (well okay you could have left out that it is a GPS program) in your inquiry.
I would suggest firt that you ask this question on the site where you got the GPS program and second maybe provide a little of of which of the many GPS programs this is so that if someone has specific knowledge of that app they might actually be able to reply.

I should have just asked if an Internet connection was required to use the GPS Receiver in this (AT&T Fuze) phone...
the program i'm talking about is this one here, NoniGPSPlot

It doesn't look like that program requires an internet connection, so my earlier post still applies.
If you have aGPS turned on, then it will try to connect to the internet first, this is because its assisted-GPS and will contact your provider's servers to help get a GPS fix.
If you have aGPS turned off, then no, you don't need the internet.
Check Start > Settings > System > AGPS Settings.

Just to use the GPS Receiver no you don't need internet.
For navigation with maps you have 2 options:
1) Internet based such as google maps & Live Search, these require a constant internet connection.
2) Device based such as TomTom, Garmin, iGO etc, these store the maps locally on your storage card so no internet connection is required.
The program you linked to doesn't appear to even use maps and works by simply showing your position in relation to saved positions allowing you to navigate (like a compass) in their general direction. This would be useful for maritime navigation, flight navigation and GeoCaching but certianly not all that useful in your car as a travel aide.

Thanks to both of you!
Yea, I planned on using it to map out some four wheeler paths my friends have, i dont need a map for that, at least not how i want to use it for.
which brings me to my next question (which i might have to start a new thread)
which GPS Nav software is best on the fuze? i've heard of the 3 you posted, but I thought that iGo had a problem with WM6.1

Now your next question is very subjective, it depends on what your looking for.
I hated Garmin, really jumpy and resource heavy. The lag was laughable.
TomTom was nice, maps were good turn my turn was nice. The voice prompts were usable. Where TT excelled was the UI, just simple and clean. Used both v6 & v7.
iGO8 (later builds) work fine on WM6.1 (used it both on my Kaiser & Fuze). Didn't really like the UI but in the end it was what I used until I dumped the Fuze. Why did I stick with iG0? The TTS (text To Speech) Turn by Turn voice prompts. Instead of "Turn Right in 400 yeards" (TomTom) it said "Prepare to turn left in 1/2 mile on IL 31 Main Street"! The maps were slightly more up to date also.

There's a number of threads on this in the software section here.
iGo works fine with WM6.1. Garmin is also nice but doesn't have TTS. TomTom is good also.
TomTom doesn't have my subdivision in their maps as well as a few other places I go, so that's why I don't use it.

kyphur said:
Now your next question is very subjective, it depends on what your looking for.
I hated Garmin, really jumpy and resource heavy. The lag was laughable.
TomTom was nice, maps were good turn my turn was nice. The voice prompts were usable. Where TT excelled was the UI, just simple and clean. Used both v6 & v7.
iGO8 (later builds) work fine on WM6.1 (used it both on my Kaiser & Fuze). Didn't really like the UI but in the end it was what I used until I dumped the Fuze. Why did I stick with iG0? The TTS (text To Speech) Turn by Turn voice prompts. Instead of "Turn Right in 400 yeards" (TomTom) it said "Prepare to turn left in 1/2 mile on IL 31 Main Street"! The maps were slightly more up to date also.
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I like the Garmin interface, but I wish the maps flowed like iGo and TomTom instead of updating once a second.
The only reason I keep Garmin on my card is because it uses better routes than iGo sometimes. Even though I have the newest Navteq maps for both and have tried all routing settings, Garmin always gave me the most logical routes while iGo would give me longer ones.

sicwan said:
Thanks to both of you!
Yea, I planned on using it to map out some four wheeler paths my friends have, i dont need a map for that, at least not how i want to use it for.
which brings me to my next question (which i might have to start a new thread)
which GPS Nav software is best on the fuze? i've heard of the 3 you posted, but I thought that iGo had a problem with WM6.1
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Referring to your 4x4 stuff (not the navigation), you might want to check out sportsdo.net. They have a pretty good system for off-road adventures (I use it for mountain biking and hiking). There are no maps, but you can upload your tracks to there portals, and it will show you where you've been on a google-map sort of display. It also tells you elevation gains and losses and a bunch of other things (internet connections aren't needed while using sportsdo, but you can upload you're stuff remotely if you have one).

Best Navigator for fuze?

Whats the best navigator to use on the fuze? i cant seem to get tomtom installed so im looking for other options

I am a fan of Navngo Igo8. I also use Ndrive but prefer Igo8. It works perfect on the fuze. Ndrive is cool if you could get the 3d maps which are only available for certain cities in europe.

i tend to push garmin mobile xt. its very accurate and has the most pretty and user friendly interface. the software is technically free but it has to be unlocked to use a non garmin branded gps and the maps can be a little on the expensive side. and installation is weird. but its my favorite. i do use google maps alot though. just because its a little quicker to break out than any proper navigation software. garmin does have google built in which is a nice feature for looking up anything from flight times to looking up gas prices in your area. itll even route you to the cheapest gas station in your area which is my favorite feature. i couldnt get tomtom to work properly and it felt half finished. its up to you really.

i wanted to give TomTom a go but the only negative thing i heard about it was its better in other countries

The TeleAtlas maps that TomTom uses do tend to be better in other countries. Navteq tends to have the most complete maps in the US, which is what Garmin uses.
You can get either type of map for iGo.
I also prefer Garmin, with iGo as my second favorite. The only reason I don't use iGo is because I don't like its routing when compared to Garmin.

iGo is pretty solid, I like it over TomTom and Garmin

[Q] Lookig for a GPS app like Garmin Oregon has

Hei,
Has anybody encountered an app thats similar to the software that Garmin Oregon series handheld GPS units have?
I'm looking for something that works with Garmin topo maps and has way-points (for geocaching) , tracks and area calculation, and whatnot.
also looking for an app thats usable for sports (logs for cycling, rollerskating and running)
I currently have IGo running on my Leo - it works great for navigating in the cities and by car, but is not much help with area calculation and sporting stuff.
tnx in advance

Try Sportypal for sports and GCzII for geocaching. I have been looking for softare like what your talking about but couldnt find anything that was affordable.
If you have a $100 try map tuner is really nice. Its similiar to a garmin handheld.

tnx for the reply!,
I will try these and see from there..

SportyPal is UNUSABLE on HD2,
when I turn off the screen to put mu phone in pocket, sportypal ceases to function.

Hey, take a serious look at RunGPS here!
It may not be the most sexy Programm arround, when it comes to style... but it is highly capable!
I use it for jogging, biking, hiking and trekking tours on Vacation. While on Tour I have acces to Open Streetmap, it helped a lot when I got lost the last time.
It is highly customisable and has Language output and directions funcionality. You can connect to BT Pulsebelt and BT cadence, its good for geocaching and all kinds of sports. There is a Training Log and Training Planner, also you can export your Trainings to excel and as KML or GPX or CSV!
I think I still use only 30% of its capabilities... I recomment the PRO version for all functions, it's worth the money.
PS: I still hope they will do an graphical overhaul, the design could be better... but the tool itself is nearly "almighty"!
PPS: I agree with Mihkel.ee, Sporty Pal is a mess on the HD2... I tried several Apps so far, the best for just tracking was GPS Trackah (for runners Joggah), but for full GPS Features RunGPS was best.
regards
Myrixamophit

RunGPS has same problems as SportyPal,
can you explane how do you use RunGPS?
when I start the training and put the phone in my pocket it stops working, when I activate the screen again it takes 10 seconds to reconnect GPS.

Mihkel.ee said:
RunGPS has same problems as SportyPal,
can you explane how do you use RunGPS?
when I start the training and put the phone in my pocket it stops working, when I activate the screen again it takes 10 seconds to reconnect GPS.
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Mmmhh... first of all, I do not use GPS inside of Pockets, Clothes or Bags. I have my HD2 either in an Armband on my upper arm (for Jogging or Roadbiking) or I have it under the transparent cover on my Front bikebag during tours and Trekking. So I always try to have a good connection. When I started Recording I usually activate the screenlock of RunGps and then lock the Phone or wait until it locks itself. After an hour of running for example (or in between) I unlock the HD2 and then RunGps... and everything is recorded fine! The only problem I ever had was last weekend when I tried to record a 55km bike-tour and had the HD2 under the map on my frontbag... the map is waterproof and covered in plastik, so probably that was enough for the gps to get no signal? Anyway, I had large gaps in the record... I see to it to put the HD2 above the map next time. But this was the first & only time of having GPS problems with RunGps!
There is definitly no cut in GPS recieve when I lock the device, with or without locking RunGps! RunGps works always in the background, it never acted differently with me.
regards,
Myrixamophit

[Q] HTC Locations premium navigation query

I know google maps has navigation. but i need offline maps. cant always guarantee a connection where i go.
I was wondering has anyone tried the onboard locations maps? particularly has anyone got the premium features? live traffic and wot not.
I have been using copilot 8 on my hd2 and its pretty rubbish. was hoping for more from locations, i read somewhere that deep inside it has a tom tom connection.

Have a look here :
sygic
http://www.sygic.com/en
or here
Navigon
http://www.navigon.com/portal/it/produkte/navigationssoftware/mobile_navigator_android.html
or here
IgoMyWay
http://www.igomyway.com/android/en/
or here
NDrive
http://www.ndrive.com/en/platforms/android
Hope its help dude.

I like the look of that sygic, but have to admit am curious about locations. I wonder how deeply integrated it is, and if the traffic system is any good.
Does anyone know if the premium traffic is connected to the tomtom HD traffic system? According to the spiel from tomtom it tracks user traffic flow in real time and adjusting routes accordingly.

freedirk said:
I like the look of that sygic, but have to admit am curious about locations. I wonder how deeply integrated it is, and if the traffic system is any good.
Does anyone know if the premium traffic is connected to the tomtom HD traffic system? According to the spiel from tomtom it tracks user traffic flow in real time and adjusting routes accordingly.
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I can't comment much on this but one thing I can say is that a nice bit of integration according to the Sense tour on the HTC website is integrating the call screen with the Nav system so that calls don't interrupt your gps functionality while driving.

I saw that and liked it. Just wondered if anyone had tried it indepth.

I try nearly all on my WM6.5 but as far as i know tomtom isn't for android platform. for others gps soft, Sygic and Ndrive are quite nice, but by far I prefer IGO and if u have RDS u got in real time all informations ...... etc etc.
Personnally I havent yet the HTC sensation, waiting to be totally bootloaders unlock.
Its up to U, to see whats your real need and Google is your friends to have all informations needed.

Hmm... but which Navis are really working for the Sensation Display?
As far as I've ready, just the Copilot and anotherone, not the iGo?

freedirk said:
I know google maps has navigation. but i need offline maps. cant always guarantee a connection where i go.
I was wondering has anyone tried the onboard locations maps? particularly has anyone got the premium features? live traffic and wot not.
I have been using copilot 8 on my hd2 and its pretty rubbish. was hoping for more from locations, i read somewhere that deep inside it has a tom tom connection.
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Can't you pay for Locations on a monthly basis? For a pretty small fee you can try it out for a month and see if it suits your needs. That's what I plan to do once I get my hands on the phone.

I read that too. Anyone using any others with any measure of success?

last sygic version does not (yet) work on sensation. It automatically closes. Hoping for a fix soon.

One of the PC Mags (UK), PC Pro from memory, has just done a sat nav comparison. For a separate system go for TomTom (their conclusion) but for a phone-based one go for CoPilot Live 8.
They're also about to release CoPilot Live 9 and, from the brief review I've seen it fixes a lot of the shortcomings of 8.
Dave - not used either, just going from what I've read before any flames start ...

dvhttn said:
One of the PC Mags (UK), PC Pro from memory, has just done a sat nav comparison. For a separate system go for TomTom (their conclusion) but for a phone-based one go for CoPilot Live 8.
They're also about to release CoPilot Live 9 and, from the brief review I've seen it fixes a lot of the shortcomings of 8.
Dave - not used either, just going from what I've read before any flames start ...
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No flaming, just reporting my experience. Just used CoPilot 8 on a recent trip, and the map was bad. Directed me to turn onto a bridge when there was no road to do this. I've found other map errors in my local area for road segments that have been in place for years. Of course, any GPS can have map errors, but relying on updates a couple of times a year at most, rather than online, increases the likelihood. Hopefully if and when Google implements maps stored on the phone updates will be available anytime.

yeah, but this here is about the sensation...
I've had alot of different navigations on my phones and pocket pcs. but right now, it seems just the copilot is working well on the sensation (which btw, I hate, its too bubble-gummy for me, looks like driving through disney world). the iGo and Navigon don't work to my knowledge for example (so far, I found iGo the best, Tomtom and Navigon tied).
but the OP just wants to know: who uses the built-in Nav with premium service, and how good is it.