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[Updatestatus in 2nd Post] >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1826283&postcount=2
[INFORMATION]
HTC has missed to include the necessary drivers needed for the Polaris to come to its full potential.
Handhelds affected are the Touch Cruise (POLARIS), TyTN II (KAISER), Touch Dual (NIKI) and the S730 (WINGS) etc., based on the MSM7200 and MSM7500 Qualcomm chipsets. The problem, however, isn't with the chips, but the missing drivers!!!
The engineers and technicians forgot to include the drivers. (That's ridiculous.) Or the company thinks consumers wouldn't notice.
[WHAT TO DO?]
- Contact HTC and let them know you are unhappy about these issues
- Contact your mobile service provider and let them know you are unhappy with these issues
- Contact support.ati.com , as they must have a driver for their own chipsets
- Make videos of the issues
- Sign the petition >> http://www.petitiononline.com/tytn2vid/ << (TYTN2 uses same chipset as POLARIS)
- Spread the word
- Write reviews
[STATUS]
HTC is aware of this problem and 'promised' a significantly performance-change in their WinMo 6.1 upgrade.
htcclassaction.org has successfully developed a 3D driver for the kaiser yet.
A port of these 3D drivers from the KAISER to the POLARIS are in progress by the Polaris Project P3D
>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426314 <<
**UPDATE**28/09/08
First release of the ported drivers, provided by the Polaris Project P3D
Get it here as .cab:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430741
Full documentation about the issues are on
>>>>>> http://www.htcclassaction.org <<<<<<
I will keep you informed about the Fix status, so if we reached our goal, you will find the drivers for the Polaris here.
**UPDATE**28/09/08
First release of the ported drivers, provided by the Polaris Project P3D
Get it here as .cab:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430741
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**UPDATE**25/09/08
A Port by The 'Polaris Project P3D' team has begun and they had a breakthorough to fix the scrolling. Neos2007 created a cab which will be posted out to all testers on this project.
An updated video from Neos2007 of the non scrolling 3D acceleration can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58PFxhIVeE0
A Cab file has been generated by Neos2007 for testing FOR the team - we will release a Public Beta after some testing.
PLEASE DO NOT POST REQUESTS FOR THE CAB!
Full documentation here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426314
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**UPDATE**19/08/08
Updated driver package again
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20080819_1
These drivers require a Kaiser (TyTN II) and a ROM based on the official HTC WM 6.1 update! It is extremely unlikely that these files will work out-of-the-box on the Polaris (at this time).
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**UPDATE**29/07/08
Updated driver package, full-screen and Manila
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20080729_1
NO need to install directly on Bepe's last Roms for Polaris
The provided .cab isnt working for the Polaris as on Kaiser.
Installation is successfull, but the Light.exe to proove coudlnt initiate D3D.
This needs further modify!
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**UPDATE**18/07/08
OpenGL ES and D3D drivers (non-fullscreen) for the KAISER as .cab
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20080717_1
NO need to install directly on Bepe's last Roms for Polaris
The provided .cab isnt working for the Polaris as on Kaiser.
Installation is successfull, but the Light.exe to proove coudlnt initiate D3D.
This needs further modify!
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**UPDATE**17/07/08
TyTN II now runs D3D too!
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20080717_1
These Drivers for the Kaiser are a big step forward, as these could?! also be used but probably modified for the polaris.
Cookers, attention!
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**UPDATE**23/06/08
drivers update 2
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20080623_1
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**UPDATE**22/06/08
- HTC TyTN II WM6.1 official ROM released
- HTC Diamond released
- drivers update
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080622_1
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**UPDATE**21/05/08
HTC's WM6.1 Update is here (?), ROM analysis and video driver news.
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080521_1
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**UPDATE**10/05/08
- All About Phones also confirms update is coming.
- MS Mobiles reports a fix for the TyTN II may be available as soon as next week.
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080510_1
and here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080509_1
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**UPDATE**09/05/08
MS Mobiles reports a fix for the TyTN II may be available as soon as next week.
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080509_1
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**UPDATE**28/04/08
HTC says update still coming
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080428_1
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**UPDATE**03/04/08
- HTC fails to deliver any update.
- Top hacker throws her weight in with porting the driver.
- P6500 may contain good drivers, hackers request ROM dump
(If you have a P6500, your help is needed!)
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080403_1
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**UPDATE**22/02/08
Drivers update - not a driver
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/responses.php#update_20080221
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**UPDATE**18/02/08
According to Fudzilla, Dr. Florian Seiche, vice president of HTC Europe, stated "Video acceleration drivers for HTC devices will see the light of the day"
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/responses.php#update_20080218
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**UPDATE**15/02/08
A response from Peter Chou himself (CEO of HTC) has surfaced saying they hope to release a driver at the end of March
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/responses.php#update_20080214_2
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**UPDATE**13/02/08
seems we lost 2 weeks, but that doesnt matter!
The show must go on
Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1915629&postcount=1203
**UPDATE**
its kinda last resort, but we are optimistic
Write support.ati.com a driver request
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**UPDATE**25/01/08
NO FIX but the updated CorePlayer 1.1.3 seems to play smoother because it takes advantage of Qtv video overlay API
NOTE: this software is not free! just for upgraders!!
Full documentation here:
http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=669.0
!!Ugraders please report if theres any improvement using this software!!
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**UPDATE**22/01/08
several htc support responses directs to a fix, that will be available soon
BUT
an 'official' htc response on DailyTech makes some confusion.
Full documentation about this on the bottom of the page:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/responses.php
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I wrote to HTC, but I could imagine people thinking: this won't help .... (I also believe that it won't help, but it won't hurt either).
manaaa said:
over 400 views and no comment
i guess you are all busy writing to htc ^^
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Yes because your Threads title is: Polaris Video Driver Fix.. I thought that you found a Fix.. I think i was not the only one... The other 399 too..
Please see and support http://www.htcclassaction.org !
isv51 said:
Yes because your Threads title is: Polaris Video Driver Fix.. I thought that you found a Fix.. I think i was not the only one... The other 399 too..
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true. i found no fix, but if there somewhen one exists, i ll post it here. this ISSUE needs attention,
http://www.htcclassaction.org
message sent to http://member.htc.com/CustomerService/CS_Mail.aspx
tea3 said:
message sent to http://member.htc.com/CustomerService/CS_Mail.aspx
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message sent to them....
isv51 said:
Yes because your Threads title is: Polaris Video Driver Fix.. I thought that you found a Fix.. I think i was not the only one... The other 399 too..
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... Correct.
It looks as if word is spreading. This article is in today's Register: http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/01/17/htc_chipset_anger/
- Julian
Reply from htc after reporting
Good morning
We are very sorry to hear that your device is now faulty. Please contact us
(+39 0236003221) in order to get it fixed.
Please note that if the device is found to be mis-used in anyway such as
being
dropped, then the repair cost will not be covered by your Warranty.
Alternatively try a soft-reset and hard-reset after backing up your data
first.
We believe it is a hardware problem but this is worth a try.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do
not
hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
Best regards,
Giovanni Fiorilli
HTC Europe
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com
i dont know whether to laugh or cry
CRY!
and then get angry!!!
htc must be retarded. its all about attitude in my book, and their attitude stinks
And try to get well motivated support personnel, well trained and informed... You'll be looking for a long time...
Signed the petition.
But I have to admit - the route demo on my device runs smoothly. Maybe not as smooth as on the Magician (cannot really compare), but is faster than the Kaiser on the youtube video. My old Prophet performs as the Kaiser on the video...
Complaint sent.
And also, can anyone give me a link for Qualcomm MSM7200 chipset. But please on Qualcomm website...
vasil said:
And also, can anyone give me a link for Qualcomm MSM7200 chipset. But please on Qualcomm website...
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hi,
here's what you searching for
http://www.qualcomm.com/iqsearch/index.html?iqname=MSM7200&x=38&y=3
but none of the links are working.
i wrote to >> [email protected] and reported it. lets hope its gonna be fixed as fast as possible. i guess theres more people that are interested in.
so far ..
bb
got my polaris today, and yeah - dissappointingly coreplayer video is really choppy.
I set the video output mode from direct draw to raw direct buffer and it now plays anything fine.
everyone probably knows that, but i didnt. i guess it makes things less of a b*stard?!
manaaa said:
hi,
here's what you searching for
http://www.qualcomm.com/iqsearch/index.html?iqname=MSM7200&x=38&y=3
but none of the links are working.
i wrote to >> [email protected] and reported it. lets hope its gonna be fixed as fast as possible. i guess theres more people that are interested in.
so far ..
bb
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It looks like they have this problem in court, so they removed all the information... I don't think writing to webmaster is going to fix anything...
I've been playing about for a couple of days now with this graphics acceleration problem.
Yesterday i was trying out different DLL's and editing the registry, and i had put "libGLES_cm.dll" and "libGLES_cm.lib" into my windows folder. Today i was trying to install manila as many people have not been able to get it to work, it installed fine and then I clicked the "tap to start HTC home" on the homescreen and it asked me to allow "libGLES_cm.dll" and it is running.
However, it's a bit disproportioned and very very slow (0.75FPS).
I think it may be needing some more missing DLL's and the registry might need tweaking.
Also without libGLES_cm.dll (as the device is shipped) Manila fails to initialise. so HTC must have some sort of OGL drivers that they are using, but not supplying for Kaiser.
I used Vincent 3D libGLES: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/ogl-es/ogles-bin-1.0.0.zip?modtime=1144798031&big_mirror=0
and Heres a link for Manila: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G5X13UZF
I'll try get a screenshot up in a minute but my kaiser's being a little slow now.
I'll try work on this more see what i get.
Any help would be appreciated
Thanks
Sorry, accidentally posted in the wrong section
Reposted in correct section, can a mod or admin delete this one please?
If you read the other Manilla thread you would know that Manilla is VGA. All of the icons need to be resized for QVGA. GLES is not enabled on the Kaiser so you can call for the dll all you want, but you still won't get any accleration or 3d out of it.
All of these possibilities have been investigated for acceleration &/or 3D.
As for Manilla, there is an effort & some progress being made in the other thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363500
I suggest that is probably the place to post your willingness to help/investigate in the effort to get it converted to QVGA & to spped it up.
As for acceleration & 3G I would look at some of the info Chainfire has posted as he has invested at least 100 hours into the effort.
I understand that but my point was that the libGLES_cm.dll is currently working on my device so there must be someway of getting acceleration, i was just posting so that others could look at this and possibly find a way to get gFx acceleration, screenshot on the thread i posted in the correct section http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364459
dariushuntly said:
I understand that but my point was that the libGLES_cm.dll is currently working on my device so there must be someway of getting acceleration, i was just posting so that others could look at this and possibly find a way to get gFx acceleration, screenshot on the thread i posted in the correct section http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364459
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Isn't that just a software driver.
I can emulate DX10 feature in software, still doesn't give me any hardware acceleration... since it's software you know.
Yes it is software, it's the library containing the what is needed for OpenGLES to run, i could be wrong but seeing as it's needed by manila, it shows that HTC is planning to impliment a driver in the future.
Also i think it shows a possible sign for getting acceleration onto the kaiser
Just a thought, any chance someone has a LG KS20 dump?
Rom and registry?
i downloaded the dump off the FTP but it seemsto be corrupt as file sizes don't match up.
Thanks
LG has the same problem. Chainfire also pulled out the KS20 drivers & tried porting/rewritting to Kaiser with no luck.
As for th ogles, I think that manilla is looking for it & finding it yes. But obviously there is still no acceleration as evidenced by the FPS rate. The portion of the chip that would optimize/use the dll's is either not there or is deactivated. I tried calling for ogles in other proggies with some luck as to function, but performance has never changed or has always worsened. So yes, it's the library, but it has no effect on the hardware needed to support the ogles.
I really don't think you can look at this app as any proof that HTC plans to use any acceleration on the Kaiser because this was clearly not written for the Kaiser. It's VGA after all.
Believe me, there are few more than me that would like to see this pulled off, especially by a forum member, since HTC says it's way to hard of a process for them to pull off any time soon. But after many long months off following & conversing w/ chainfire, it's still nothing more than a dream & chainfire is the guy that has brought us some of the most amazing features for our WM6 devices not to mention the dynamic duo cmonex & olipro.
I hope you prove me wrong in spades, I'd like nothing better than to see "dariushuntly" hoisted up on our shoulders as the acceleration saviour.
manila youtube vid
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/7064.html
dariushuntly said:
Yes it is software, it's the library containing the what is needed for OpenGLES to run, i could be wrong but seeing as it's needed by manila, it shows that HTC is planning to impliment a driver in the future.
Also i think it shows a possible sign for getting acceleration onto the kaiser
Just a thought, any chance someone has a LG KS20 dump?
Rom and registry?
i downloaded the dump off the FTP but it seemsto be corrupt as file sizes don't match up.
Thanks
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What makes you think this was ever meant for any MSM7X00-based devices?
I spoke with HTC PR in Sweden recently about an official upgrade to TouchFLO for the Kaiser. (Ie if the cube was destined for Kaiser devices) and the answer was no, no planned upgrades to touchflo functionality.
Ie no official cube, much less Manilla. In other words it pretty much has nothing to do with a future driver update.
Sorry if you think it's negative or that I'm rude, I just think it's better to be realistic about this issue and try to get it solved rather than to rely on a pipedream.
The only thing it really does confirm is that future HTC devices will have HW accelerated graphics and drivers.
undac said:
The only thing it really does confirm is that future HTC devices will have HW accelerated graphics and drivers.
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And VGA.
OK, It would be great to get a place where I can look through the WM5 cabs that we have available here. I keep searching and end up having to try 4 different version of HTC Home plugin before getting the WM5 one, or having to install remove HARD Reset other HTC apps or different themes. If we had a WM5 section I think it would be great. I would be happy to post all the Apps that I found to work on WM5 so far. As well as a few the had me HARD Reset ...
Well That is just an Idea. I know many people have moved to WM6 but WM6 slows an older phone down (Cingular 8125) from what I have read.
Best Regards,
SoBBie
you can post all your wm5 programs over here.
Do you know how? Because i can't play any game ,because of the buttons :S
The closest thing is to have the MIDlet manager and through that you can download some games, but you can't go to a website and play them, but this may be possible on SkyFire.
posted wrong thread post in touch thread
Yes it is possible. You need to Adapt the Games with Java Adapter for Mobile.
You can get it here
anyone that has a pre-config of the HTC Elf, (touch, P3450) becuz it's not in the standard list.
yas you need: esmert java for ppc
do a google search for it!
(sorry for my bad english)
doesn't work with that.
i want to convert an ordinary java game, designed for a pda with hard buttons, to an elf (htc elf, or htc touch, P3450) with touchscreen.
[May 22] Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19585 Public Beta test Release
Before I go on just want to say thanks and credits to:
Tom Codon for his absolute brilliantness
AlltheWay
P1tater
The General
Laurentius26
_Alex_
Bepe
Ervius
GSLEON3
Jcespi2005
Sleuth
OliPof
Schaps
Mr. X for his Kindness
The Kaiser Community supporters who has stick by me through my Rom cooking and all the beta testers who have tested and gave back feedback. If I forget any names forgive me
Details as Follows:
CE OS 5.2.19585 Build 19585.dutty’s. [This Rom is UC COMPLIANT THANKS TO SLEUTH]
SPB Benchmark
Rom Applications Included Below:
Adobe FlashLite_1.0.1718.2426
Adobe ReaderLE_2_5_103000_60R2 [ NEW]
Arcsoft_MMS_5.30.31.19 [NEW]
BT BPP_1_6_5_0 [NEW]
BT SAP_3_1_0r [NEW]
BT Ftp_1_2_33281_9 [NEW]
HTC Album 1_0_1030_720
HTC AudioManager_1_2_1813.3129 [NEW]
HTC Bluetooth Quick link
HTC Camera_5_0_4_2915_00
HTC CommManager 6 Buttons [ Diamond STYLE] [NEW]
HTC ConnectionSetup_1_5_33309_1 [NEW]
HTC Endkey_1_1_333562-1 [Mapped to Red end key] [NEW]
HTC EnlargeStartMenu_1_2_33815_2 [NEW]
HTC Field Test_2.15
HTC Home_2_1_181_3202 [NEW]
HTC MP3 Trimmer_1_1_1814_1127 [NEW]
HTC NetworkPlugin_1_0_31758_2
HTC Quick GPS_1_0_1814_3830 [NEW]
HTC Qwerty_Diamond_Keyboar [NEW]
HTC Random Access_4_0_1009_721
HTC RSS Hub_2_1_1_066 [NEW]
HTC Sim Manager_6.47 [NEW]
HTC StreamingMedia_3_1814_1001_3733 [NEW]
HTC Task_Manager_2_1_33821_1 [NEW]
HTC VoiceRecorder_1_10_1814_1127 [NEW]
HTC_Zip_1_20_1814_713 [NEW]
Java _Esmertec_JBED_20080222.3.1 [NEW]
Microsoft NetCf 3.5 RTM
Microsoft Office 2007
Microsoft Sqlcemobile 3.0 [NEW]
Microsoft voice command V1.6.19209 [NEW]
Microsoft Windows Live 10.6.34.800 [NEW]
ADD ONS INCLUDED
Clear Temp
Gps test
PIM Backup 2.8
Pocket RAR
SPB screen capture
Total Commander
GAMES Included
Bubble Breaker
MSPackman
Rubik
Solitaire
My Registry tweaks:
Tidy up today screen
Clear type enabled
Live Serach through google
Disable Security Warning for Unsigned Apps & Cabs
Enable GPS in Camera
Single date line hack
Custom performance tweak
Battery performance [ Updated with much better performance on battery deterioration
Lots more cant remember
Please adhere to the forum rules and read and search before posting duplicate questions which there is already an answer.
If you like what I do you can always click below:
Click.me.if.you.like.what.I.do
READ DUTTY'S WIKI FIRST [ Need updating]
Things to know about this Rom
This Rom will be available soon in other versions when time is available
This Rom is the based on a new Build CE OS 5.2.19585 and new Build 5.2.19585
This Rom is also supplied with Radio 1.65.16.25, not tested any other radio but pretty sure 1.65.20 should work also
This is True 18mb pagepool Rom, Guide for advance users can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383621
Microsoft voice Command fully integrated and tweaked out the box with also working incoming call notification
HTC Diamond Keyboard now default in Rom [Still trying to find the perfect SIP]
Skype also now works on this new build
Missed call tab in HTC Home now Re-directs to Missed call tab in Touch Dialler
Touchpal Keyboard also compatable in Rom
Mio-Map to work need to REMOVE HTC Home from today screen
Problem with PCM Keyboard But no big issues since we got new keyboard
LINK TO ROM:
Password: duttysmay22diamondtestrom
http://rapidshare.com/files/116868365/Duttys_Ruu_Signed_5.2.19585_1_65_16_25_test.zip
I will make this a Bug list post.
After testing this build I found out that i could make skype works but then PCM wouldnt work properly, Then i could make pcm keyboard istall and work perfectly but then skype wouldnt work, so this is a rom issue and by me. So i will investigate this.
Summary in contacts to fix
long wait on Customisation to finish sometimes freezing device, never experience this my self
IM+ WORKS tick in box
Dialler to fix, if not going back to default dialler
Let me help you hosting:
http://www.frifor.com/download/Duttys_Ruu_Signed_5.2.19585_1_65_16_25_test.zip
And I thought the great Dutty was not more active in the kaiser forum! Someone mentioned somewehere you'd bought a Blackberry and moved on from the Kaiser????
Of course great to see you still here Dutty!
Thank you so much
Looks like its not going to be any sleep tonght
Edit: For user that need other hard KB layouts .. The Swedish hardware KB work on this one
Did not on the last HTC rel. and L26´s Diamond.
The Software KB Scandinavia changer did not start after install on the others.. same here to .. sadly.
Moe5508 said:
And I thought the great Dutty was not more active in the kaiser forum! Someone mentioned somewehere you'd bought a Blackberry and moved on from the Kaiser????
Of course great to see you still here Dutty!
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Yeah im still here just been busy
Are the Diamond video drivers in this? Is this the ROM you were talking about as being the fastest ever? I'm excited
Nice release my friend.!
Here we go..
Just awesome, great work
Edit: this post can be considered as: 1) useless, 2) a warm "thank you for al the hard work dutty". If considered as 1, please ignore this post..
anyone get stupid rapidshare to work? i keep downloading a file 0kb from the link
WOW total suprise, and loving it thanks, ur my favourite rom chef
For all you people who hate those cats
MIRRORSSS (happy now ATW?)
http://sharedzilla.com/en/get?id=150414
http://www.badongo.com/file/9522369
http://www.zshare.net/download/12427720c1e702cf/
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TVJ49DWC
Thanks Dutty!
Look very nice,
Downloading now will report soon.
Thank you >>!
tom_codon said:
Nice release my friend.!
Here we go..
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lol thanks bro, awaiting your niki release
major bug for me, don't know if some one else ran into this..
no numbers on on-screen keyboard when switching from abc to 123.
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lol i thought this was gona happen tomorrow
p.s. hey was sending us to the hermes forum a decoy .. if so it worked
Can't Wait to Flash!!!
Infuruno said:
anyone get stupid rapidshare to work? i keep downloading a file 0kb from the link
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Downloading now, shows 70.3MB Will upload to 4 shared as soon as I get it downloaded.
4Shared Mirror
Really looking forward to flashing! Have you tested the new Opera 9.5 Diamond build on this rom? I tried it on your April 29th rom, and it seemed to be very laggy and buggy.
Thanks a bunch! Will post thoughts and results in a bit.
met3ora said:
Are the Diamond video drivers in this? Is this the ROM you were talking about as being the fastest ever? I'm excited
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video drivers still need patching as i have tried and still doesnt give us beauty, but if u see graphics score on benchmarks its a start. i dont think all the drivers will work on kaiser as kasier hasnt got a built in ati drivers support, unless im wrong
Good job, hope there will be a cube version (A)
You know me