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Why is no one porting MotoBlur and Pulse to the Sapphire MT3G? Why is everyone so stuck on Hero?
There HAVE been blur ports in the past. Do a little research before you make generalized statements. And Hero is more popular because it already came off an HTC device. It's easier to cook.
Please do just a little research before creating a new topic!
now the real question is why we dont see these for the 32a
Moto Blur & Pulse
Question, and maybe someone can direct me where to find it but whats the difference between Pulse, and Motoblur?
Polaris and Ronni... I did research before posting and found only one pulse rom and 3 motoblur roms compared to the hundreds of hero roms. My post was simple and just a question. Why? That was all. If I was a youngster with no forum know how, then your down talking would be understood. Thanks anyway.
zeroplace said:
Polaris and Ronni... I did research before posting and found only one pulse rom and 3 motoblur roms compared to the hundreds of hero roms. My post was simple and just a question. Why? That was all. If I was a youngster with no forum know how, then your down talking would be understood. Thanks anyway.
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Sorry but your post "Why is no one porting MotoBlur and Pulse to the Sapphire MT3G?" makes it seem like you didn't research at all. Like polaris0352 wrote is that Hero is easier to cook plus it's more popular. But i hope it won't be long before we start to see more non-htc roms for our magics!
I think part of the reason is that GPS and WiFi don't work, which means the uptake is a lot less. Once WiFi and GPS are working (which apparently won't happen until Dragon is available) then I'd bet more ports of these roms will start to appear. I like Blur and would make it my permanent rom if the wireless wasn't an issue.
ronni.rasmussen said:
Sorry but your post "Why is no one porting MotoBlur and Pulse to the Sapphire MT3G?" makes it seem like you didn't research at all. Like polaris0352 wrote is that Hero is easier to cook plus it's more popular. But i hope it won't be long before we start to see more non-htc roms for our magics!
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because hero comes from an HTC phone wich would lead one to believe it would be much easier to run on our HTC phones...
motoblur was alright didnt like the feel and its hard to make moto and HTC play nice
Pulse....welll.... i think pulse sucked others like it though
I know there are at least 3 pulse roms that are decent and there are 2-3 blur roms that run enough to use
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now the real question is why we dont see these for the 32a
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I've created 32A porting packages for both Pulse and MotoBlur ROM some time ago.
TomasTrek said:
I think part of the reason is that GPS and WiFi don't work, which means the uptake is a lot less. Once WiFi and GPS are working (which apparently won't happen until Dragon is available) then I'd bet more ports of these roms will start to appear. I like Blur and would make it my permanent rom if the wireless wasn't an issue.
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Im running a Blur Rom that WiFi is working on but there were no instructions on partition setup, if any. It is real smooth but when I put my own wallpaper on, it seems to slow down a bit.
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Im running a Blur Rom that WiFi is working on but there were no instructions on partition setup, if any. It is real smooth but when I put my own wallpaper on, it seems to slow down a bit.
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is it for 32a??
if yes provide me the link
thx
zeroplace said:
Im running a Blur Rom that WiFi is working on but there were no instructions on partition setup, if any. It is real smooth but when I put my own wallpaper on, it seems to slow down a bit.
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Can you Post a Link to the WiFi working Blur?
I've not seen any Blur with WiFi working at all due to the Kernel requirements.
I will have to find the link for you guys. The Rom is running on my MT3G 32B Rooted. Im going to assume that the WiFi works for that Im using WiFi Tether to connect to the internet with my laptop as I type. I will get a link after while. The file name is MotoCliq_v0.5.zip. I think Drizzy put it out. Not for certain though.
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I will have to find the link for you guys. The Rom is running on my MT3G 32B Rooted. Im going to assume that the WiFi works for that Im using WiFi Tether to connect to the internet with my laptop as I type. I will get a link after while. The file name is MotoCliq_v0.5.zip. I think Drizzy put it out. Not for certain though.
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32B here? http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=916
32A here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569329&page=5
parrot5 said:
32B here? http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=916
32A here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569329&page=5
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The reason for the lack of ports is honestly the firmware being so tied to social aspects. All the "cool" features are in the UI with the social stuff, but the rest of the firmware... well... sucks. I ported both and got bored in a couple days. Hero has new dumps and new versions of sense and the prospect of updating to 1.6 and eventually 2.0 These are done. One dump, one version, no projected future. Not much room to grow. Hero has all the features this does and then some, with the exception of universal inbox and the way launcher reacts. Pulse isnt really much of a ROM, either. Its just a cool UI and a bunch of paid apps put together into a firmware.
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The reason for the lack of ports is honestly the firmware being so tied to social aspects. All the "cool" features are in the UI with the social stuff, but the rest of the firmware... well... sucks. I ported both and got bored in a couple days. Hero has new dumps and new versions of sense and the prospect of updating to 1.6 and eventually 2.0 These are done. One dump, one version, no projected future. Not much room to grow. Hero has all the features this does and then some, with the exception of universal inbox and the way launcher reacts. Pulse isnt really much of a ROM, either. Its just a cool UI and a bunch of paid apps put together into a firmware.
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I hear ya. I just get tired of looking at the same bottom bar and out of all the times I try to ask for help, no one wants to share on how to get started making my own with my own look. I have seen a hero rom with a somewhat Pulse bottom bar and it looked killer but the slowness of the rom was not bareable.
I actually flashed the new Andriod 2.0 Eclair to my phone. It is a stripped down Rom and has nothing in it but MAN do I like the lock screen and menu play. Very nice, clean and cool. I wish I had Eclair with a MotoBlur look and feel and Hero internals. I do like Blur's social widgets. Nice!
Review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIL7tXnlEKU
- courtesy of kenfly
update: thanks to chuckhriczko we have an update.zip. googlebits included, livewallpapers are running, except for nexus ones, this is working on the AOSP 2.0.1 build, includes the new music app, youtube, new 3d gallery, its slow and glitchy but it does load,launcher2 is installed but just gives a black screen and force closes, most likely due to lack of openGL but the still wallpapers from it work!!!and updated host scripts to block ads.
Wipe, flash and enjoy.
http://www.4shared.com/file/199173614/387bc31a/aosp-lwp-signed.html
Update:
i have the nexus LWP to sit on loading, no longer force closes, i have the nexus themed launcher installed, flan clock app, gumbo kernal installed, protected apps showing in market, will upload new version once i get super users to work right
Awesome! Can't wait for a release.
so.. opengl is working? on 2.1? at least it was my understanding that is what was needed..
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so.. opengl is working? on 2.1? at least it was my understanding that is what was needed..
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I think this is a 2.0.1 ROM, not 2.1 but I could be mistaken.
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I think this is a 2.0.1 ROM, not 2.1 but I could be mistaken.
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its 2.0.1, openGL is needed for the 3d gallery, not lwp
Looks real nice, can't wait for this one.
Nice, but i tried AOP 2.0.1 and its too glitchy plus i hate the keyboard
That is sweet I would deal with vanilla Android (i like sence) to be able to use that.
Keep up the good work.
So when we get updated to Eclair sometime in the not to distant future this will be a feature that we can use?
hows your batt life with that running ???
702DROID said:
hows your batt life with that running ???
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batt life is not bad, although i havent kept them constantly running, trying to figure out the nexus papers
It looked like it put some serious lag when switching between the three homescreens. Did you experience that, or was it just from the quality of the video? Nonetheless, that is sweet
Leukay said:
It looked like it put some serious lag when switching between the three homescreens. Did you experience that, or was it just from the quality of the video? Nonetheless, that is sweet
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Thats my question too. How much lag does this add?
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Thats my question too. How much lag does this add?
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there was a little lag wit the digital rain (matrix) wallpaper
i am going to try to compile a update.zip later today, will include, AOSP build, googlebits,roaming fix, and livewallpapers
phonetec said:
i am going to try to compile a update.zip later today, will include, AOSP build, googlebits,roaming fix, and livewallpapers
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Very cool! I am looking forward to trying this out.
Awesome. We all will be looking forward to it. I do need to ask, is it possible to get this on the Hero 2.1 build that's floating around or are the files that need to be modified hacked to hell by HTC in those roms?
Is the camera and gps working on this build????
How is it that someone who can figure out how to get that running on his Hero has no idea how to get a camera to focus on something?
Does the Google Voice app work correctly on 2.0.1? That's the one issue that's prevented me from using the 2.1 ROM on a daily basis.
I was doing some searching the other day, and i came across this post.
http://android.modaco.com/content/google-nexus-one-nexusone-modaco-com/305352/27-may-r2-desire-camera-application-on-nexus-one-mcr-cm-enomther/
Now this is the HTC Camera App for regular Nexus 1 builds.
So i was wondering if anyone was capable of getting this working on a Froyo build for the desire?
I have attached the ZIP so you can have a look.
Hopefully it will lead to a better camera app for Froyo
Great idea! Hope someone will do this!
Yea the original post claims it works fine on the Nexus so i cant see why it wouldnt work on the desire.
I would look into it myself but have no idea where to start.
This should definately be looked into!
Well im having a go myself.
Ive updated all files to reflect the 2.2 versions...
and updated the boot.img with what i saw relevant from the previous one.
Phone boots which is good
but when i run the camera app it force closes.
now its taken me 2 hours to get to this stage from knowing nothing so just guessing ive missed a few things from the boot image.
so ill update when ive looked at it more. Going to bed soon
Good work man.
This+Open Desire= sex!
well your in luck because at the moment its open desires boot image im working on. so if i can get this working then it will work for you
Booooooooo, work on defrost
well i prefer opendesire, but if i can get this working on that then ill happily transfer it to defrost.
unfortunately, im a bit stuck at the moment haha
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well i prefer opendesire, but if i can get this working on that then ill happily transfer it to defrost.
unfortunately, im a bit stuck at the moment haha
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Hmmm wish i could help, but id have no idea what i was doing!
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Hmmm wish i could help, but id have no idea what i was doing!
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your in the same boat as i am then
if anyone is interested in helping drop me a pm and ill send you what i am working on currently.
wow i thought there would be more interest in this.
guess not...
ok i found a 2.2 version for the nexus which contains a kernel for the camera to work properly.
surely someone can get this working on the desire?
link to update zip for 2.2 nexus 1...
http://www.androidspin.com/downloads.php?dir=enomther/APPS/&file=htccam_2.11.3_720p_kernel_audiomod.zip
does the camera app include the gallery?
i'd really love both .
if you mean the htc gallery then nope. the only thing i like about the htc rom is the camera, hence why im trying to get this working so bad! the quality in the pics is alot better than the stock froyo camera app.
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if you mean the htc gallery then nope. the only thing i like about the htc rom is the camera, hence why im trying to get this working so bad! the quality in the pics is alot better than the stock froyo camera app.
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i know, that's why i want it too, also it has face recognition. but also the htc gallery is much better than the android stock gallery. its way faster and more beautiful.
the htc camera would be great indeed, so +1 for that.
This would be great. The HTC Camera app still makes me want to switch to a Sense ROM. Hopefull someone is able to make this happen
well as it stands no devs seem interested, im doing my best but its my second day working on it from knowing nothing about android
just bugs me that they have this working on the nexus 1 on AOSP roms, yet there inst one for the desire, and its the phone it came from!
would be so awesome if you could get this working... I had a crack at playing with the htccamera files from enomthers rom but got nowhere at all, so I guess I know less than nothing ^^;
this is for anyone who likes/wants SenseUI and doesn't want to root and flash a ROM or jus doesn't have a ROM available for their device I have found this after AGES of searching the internet...don't remember where I found it though...REALLY sorry if this was already posted
This is a launcher that I found to be pretty close to actually Sense...I compared to my Hero...also this worked on jus about every 2.0+ device I own and all my friends devices I tried it on...
not sure about anything below 2.0 but I doubt anyone still uses anything that low
***All credit goes to the creator***
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this is for anyone who likes/wants SenseUI and doesn't want to root and flash a ROM or jus doesn't have a ROM available for their device I have found this after AGES of searching the internet...don't remember where I found it though...REALLY sorry if this was already posted
This is a launcher that I found to be pretty close to actually Sense...I compared to my Hero...also this worked on jus about every 2.0+ device I own and all my friends devices I tried it on...
not sure about anything below 2.0 but I doubt anyone still uses anything that low
***All credit goes to the creator***
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I know a lot of people using stock Android that would like this, especially if it can run Sense widgets! (Not me - I <3 Launcher Pro!!)
Can you post any screenshots?
It's the ADW launcher 1.1.5 Sense skin. I'll get pictures of it here soon.
well I jus took a pic but my cam sucks lol the pic is not that great and dark but this is my stock Samsung Intercept and runs jus as smooth as it did on my buddies Captivate Galaxy S
again this in on my Intercept and sorry for the terrible pic...I will get better pics tomorrow to post
First off...I think I've come to the conclusion I'm a sense guy at heart.
I've used all the major sense ROMs for this bolt. BAMF, Virus (Airborne and Synergy), Chingy stuff, and DroidTh3ory's stuff. (I"m sure a few others I've forgotten).
I've also tried CM7 several times, OMFGB, and recently Th3ory's AOSP run.
I get smaller footprint, more customization, better battery life (I'm told, can't say I've left an AOSP on mine long enough to confirm/deny that personally).
I use my phone for 60% business/40% personal.
I know you can download an app or theme for just about everything...but at what point do you say enough is enough. I'm trying to make AOSP do what Sense already does?...most of the time for free.
Example... Sense 3.0 MMS...cleaner, nicer. Sense email client, way better than AOSP offering. I use Exchange for email. I know all about Touchdown, K9, moxier, Enhanced Email, etc. But on baked in AOSP email you can't even move an email to a sub folder??
The dialer is horrible, IMO. So I downloaded dialer one. I like sense's dialer, if you start typing a name or number, it starts pulling them up. Reminds me of how easy a blackberry is to use for dialing.
I like the people Widget, so I paid for launcher pro plus, their people widget as well as calendar/agenda widget is ok. It would be nice if the facebook pictures synced up properly with their people widget, but I've read this is a known AOSP issue. Again...buying/installing a 3rd party app for something that just works in Sense.
I'm not looking for a flame war. I know there's a HUGE majority of AOSP love out there...I get it. Just looking for opinions.... am I way off base here?
Now, AOSP is not all terrible. The ability to choose different launchers, change the number of home screens, how they rotate, different home dock icons, ability to change row/columns.... There are a lot of pluses for sure... so please don't think I'm kicking dirt on the AOSP guys. I appreciate good work from ALL the developers...it's a thankless and never ending job...
One of the main reasons I am sticking with Sense-based ROMs is the quick lookup feature.
I loved aosp on my Droid 1 and Droid x, when I got the t-bolt I had to deal with sense and now I can't go back to aosp.
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On the CM dialer, you can hit the search key and type someone's name.
I like AOSP cause thats what I learned on. Sense pisses me off more than it helps- too many things that just dont work right for me. For example (and this is small stuff, but stuff that just bugs me), click on the address bar on the browser. Start typing something to search....click enter, aww crap, it automatically put a www. in front of it...back up...delete the www. and try again. I can visit Sense once in a while, but always end up back at AOSP. I dont like re-learning, my original HTC Nexus with AOSP was still the best phone I ever had.
I love sense. I came from a Droid X and after i got my TB i realized that 80% of apps and widgets and stuff that i downloaded was to make it look and operate like sense. Like a world clock, a stop watch and good calender widget, the sense clock...the list goes on. Yes there are some things i miss from launchers i used but overall sense is good. Very functional and its got the eye candy.
I dont get why you u cant just turn sense off in settings like you could on my htc imagio. Made it much easier for people who prefer one or the other.
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I think the true answer lies somewhere in between, the beauty of the Android OS is customization. Personally, I am using an AOSP dailer with my BAMF Sense ROM.
My girlfriend loves cm7. I can't stand it. I tend to think of AOSP as Android for people that don't care how it looks or works. Android really isn't that elegant all by itself. It's a pig in need of lip stick. I just refuse to pay for something Sense gives me for free is another reason. That HTC clock is coming close to being an icon of Android itself. I personally think its time Google considered making their industrial modern art masterpiece into something pleasing to the eye and brain. I might give AOSP another go at some point. I'm pretty sure I won't like it because I like how Sense ties things together and it Just works. For free.
I've tried going back to AOSP as I loved AOSP on my OG Droid. I am a Sense-aholic now and I cannot go back. Especially running Sense 3.0 on das BAMF 4.9.
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I loved aosp on my Droid 1 and Droid x, when I got the t-bolt I had to deal with sense and now I can't go back to aosp.
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+1, thats exactly how I was. I thought I was an ASOP only guy after my D1, but every time I try ASOP now I find myself missing some of the things that sense gives you.
Gingeritis 3D is the most stable GB Sense rom I have used yet, battery life is unexpectedly good.
I like the hardware that Motorola has been putting out with android, but Sense blows Blur out of the water...
I've tested a few moto phones...and that being said, I can TOTALLY see the huge love of AOSP for those folks. It's what they're used to and what they know.
But I've owned a sense phone...and use it daily now since release.
I too, can't see spending time and a little money to make it work or trying to make it work like Sense Candy....
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I've tested a few moto phones...and that being said, I can TOTALLY see the huge love of AOSP for those folks. It's what they're used to and what they know.
But I've owned a sense phone...and use it daily now since release.
I too, can't see spending time and a little money to make it work or trying to make it work like Sense Candy....
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I use Sense simply because I don't have time to experiment with all the other ROM options. But whenever I have started to try some other individual app options, I usually find something I like better. Sense weather animations are cool eye-candy, but there are much more functional weather apps when you need them--and you just don't need a weather app on all the time. The stock clock is ridiculously huge and some of the other optional Sense clocks are OK, but there are a million other clocks out there for free. Found a free calendar widget that is much more customizable and therefore nicer looking with my many backgrounds. Touchdown is better email app (but not cheap). One thing at a time, everything is getting replaced. Not sure what elements of Sense I'm still using!
Thanks, Robertus
I love asop. I love being able to use launcher pro and hide apps that i don't want to see. I love the speed. And every app works great on asop. I've tried to go back to sense but i only last a day at the most. I think the dailer on stock android is awesome.
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I started off with Sense and tried the ASOP mods.
ASOP is very minimalistic. BUT Sense is TOO MUCH.
Google needs a good clock and a better calender and better icons. If they fix that, ill be solid with ASOP.
I like rooting so that I can get to enjoy both sense and aosp. Both have pluses and minuses. Can we agree to that?
End of story.
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Both have pluses and minuses. Can we agree to that?
End of story.
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Wow you clearly missed the point of the thread
Just looking for opinions.... am I way off base here
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He was looking for opinions on Sense vs ASOP. He wants to know the pros and cons
I keep trying all the AOSP roms but keep going back to Das BAMF 1.8.6 because it's the most stable, has the least bugs, and the longest battery life. At least for me.
Its a personal preference, so there is no right or wrong answer. I definitely love AOSP. Just cleaner, every app works as intended, moddable.. most importantly (typically) ultra stable and fast.
I personally like the dialer, but usually people get hung up (no pun intended) on that. I love the fact that I can choose to dial, use favourites, have an easy to access call log, etc.. and if I can't manage to find someone in all that.. i can just hit the search key (you remember that little button on the bottom right side).
I do love some of the sense options but not enough to buy the farm. It would be nice to have a middle ground, but I guess i kind of do with AOSP and the mods.
I there any way to enable the quick lookup feature on AOSP? I mainly use quick lookup to easily translated web pages.