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Opera Being EXTREMELY Intrusive

Since upgrading to new AT&T Rom and installing all of the bells and whistles you have all helped me with, I am having a problem. I installed a cab titled marioncopera9. While this version of opera works well, it wants to open everything. This includes any window I open in Weather Watcher or in anything requiring flash. When I uninstall this version of Opera, MarcSinger's weather watcher is still broken.
Any ideas besides start from scratch?
Also any better version of Opera besides the one I am running? The previous version I had will no longer run since flashing to the new HTC rom.
Am I asking the right questions or providing the right info?

What version of opera is it specifically?
Opera shouldn't do any of this, you may have an early, early version of the 9 rom (9 isn't out yet, but there are lots of early versions floating around).

It was touted as a 9 beta I believe. Any ideas where I can find the most recent "real release candidate?" I have been to Opera's website but for the life of me cannot get any version to install on my phone as I don't see any CAB files on the site and apparently am not smart enough to know what to do with what they have.
Any help, direction, or specific thread? I have done the search and cannot get the "right" hit from the forums to help.

Short answer: Hard reset is the easiest way to fix.
Long answer: Opera 9.33 mobile (and the fakes claiming to be 9.5) are all leaked betas. Because they're leaked, you're bound to have problems, and Opera will *NOT* support you.
Is there anything you can do, short of hard resetting your phone? Not without alot of registry editing and knowledge that you probably don't have, or you wouldn't of posted this thread
Even if you had the knowledge, you would have had to know that this would been a problem when you installed it and backed up the appropriate registry keys prior to installing. Otherwise, you'll still need to hard reset, copy the settings, install opera, uninstall opera and put back your settings...
BTW, all of this was already posted in a thread in the developing and hacking forums... This is a redundant thread.
Hope this helps!

Opera & Flash

I installed the Raphael Elite ROM with a Opera and Flash. I tried accessing Musicovery.com but couldn't get anything usefull.
after setting some setting making the website think I am on Mozilla (according to http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=41779&highlight=opera) I can see the website. But unfortunaly no music
I think this might be some known restriction, but can someone explain why this doesn't work or better.. how you did get it working

[Browser] Getting Flash to work on non-hero builds?????

Title says it all... I'm trying to get Flash working on regular 1.5 builds (like JF builds). It's not working at the moment so I hope you guys can help me.
Files that are related to get flash working:
SYSTEM -- LIB
libfl.so (registered as com/htc/flash/FlashLiteLib)
libflashlite.so
libflashsnddec.so
libwebcore.so ???
libdrmdec.so ???
libdrmdec_jni.so ???
SYSTEM -- APP
Browser.apk (which is using com.htc.framework, com.htc.android.pimlib)
and needs the following provider: browser.htc.util.HTCBrowserProvider
Browser.apk uses assets/plugins/flashplugin.so for flash, so we might build this into the older browser...
HTMLViewer.apk ??? (probably not)
SYSTEM -- FRAMEWORK
com.htc.resources.apk (not sure)
com.htc.android.easopen.jar (not sure)
com.htc.android.pimlib.jar (needed for browser)
com.htc.framework.jar (needed for browser)
com.scalado.util.ScaladoUtil.jar (probably not)
SYSTEM - ETC - PERMISSIONS
platform.xml
com.htc.framework.xml
You can get those files from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521059 the Haykuro ROM (browser.apk and HTMLviewer are in the apps_s zip file, other files in the rom itselve).
After copying all these files... it simply won't work. (Browser is not visible and after reboot it won't boot (no it's not broken, you are able to get into recovery)).
(libfl.so, libflashlite.so or libflashsnddec.so are hanging during boot... when removing these files, your system will boot again).

HTC added some multitouch features into the core framework, so you need their version of the framework jars too. I dexdumped their version of the browser and it looks like the code to actually turn on the flash plugin is pretty minimal (just a couple of settings), it can probably be reverse engineered.
On the bright side, this is probably pre-release code from Adobe. Which means something official is right around the corner.

cyanogen said:
HTC added some multitouch features into the core framework, so you need their version of the framework jars too. I dexdumped their version of the browser and it looks like the code to actually turn on the flash plugin is pretty minimal (just a couple of settings), it can probably be reverse engineered.
On the bright side, this is probably pre-release code from Adobe. Which means something official is right around the corner.
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Hmm true... but I don't know if Adobe will release it for the G1, just like Opera which is also only releasing for HTC WinMo phones...
I thought it might be easy to get flash to work, since the browser is "plugin based", but if you put the flashplugin.so in /asset/plugins/ the browser doesn't load the plugin... And plugins also aren't loaded by the AndroidManifest.xml... So I really don't know how to get the plugin itselve to work in the Android1.5 browser.
What I am trying to do is only get the libfl.so, libflashlite and libflashdec in /system/lib/, and create a modified Browser.apk... so you don't need the htc framework at all... but I guess it isn't going to work like this.

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Is really all the browser does.
Sadly this method is only in the HTC modified framework. And there is quite a lot of flash-related code in there too.

Multi-touch ? I see that Browser doesn't have zoom feature. Does Hero support multi-touch ?

Hi Fun,
Yes in Hero,
Double tap to zoom.
funbacon said:
Multi-touch ? I see that Browser doesn't have zoom feature. Does Hero support multi-touch ?
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in the current branch of (cupcake) code, the browser has a setting to set the plugin path via the database. if you get that working, you should be able to drop plugins into a folder and have them work.

blackeyedbrian said:
in the current branch of (cupcake) code, the browser has a setting to set the plugin path via the database. if you get that working, you should be able to drop plugins into a folder and have them work.
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It looks like they hard-coded a bunch of other stuff into android.webkit.WebView and WebViewCore do to the flash: URL handling, so it's not just a simple drop-in plugin.

I have a 1g card and can't afford a cars suitable for a2sd. So I won't be running Hero until after I find a damn job, so hopefully someone figures this out. I really want flash.

Makes me wonder if Adobe will release Flash for Android... since it's hardcoded in the HTC framework and Android I think it will be HTC (new ROM's) only.
So the only easy thing to do is strip the Hero build to a regular Android build but leave the browser alone? (Since I've no experience to reverse engineer this) But the ROM is far from clean then... (you will have the full HTC framework which you won't use).

I highly suggest that everyone not put framework.jar from the HTC Hero...I did and it caused a boot loop...

Get flash to work on hero first.. its subpar atm.

Does hero rom even support flash? i see the app but any site i have gone to with flash i just see a flash plugin error

pentace said:
Does hero rom even support flash? i see the app but any site i have gone to with flash i just see a flash plugin error
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flash8 is supported, flash9 is not.

thelamacmdr said:
I highly suggest that everyone not put framework.jar from the HTC Hero...I did and it caused a boot loop...
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Here's a thought. What rom did you attempt this on? Perhaps you will see better results if you try to bring the necessary hero framework/libs over to an HTC baised build such as 6.0H or Rogers.

That might be why.. I was using a Google Ion Rom which if I know what you're saying...has a different framework.jar file in it than HTC Roms..

Hmm, so is the flash currently on the phone even practical? I mean, I can't even get the full YouTube site to work and watch videos on it, it just opens up the Flash window and stays black.

I had tried this on google ion rom, but failed. I think we can get the FlashPlayer to work first. It need a HTC FilePicker. But I am not sure what FilePicker need for native lib(.so).
I tried to do this by adb logcat.

SolemnWishing said:
Hmm, so is the flash currently on the phone even practical? I mean, I can't even get the full YouTube site to work and watch videos on it, it just opens up the Flash window and stays black.
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it is practical, not for youtube, for youtube external app is better, or it need big screen, I use opera 9.5 and flash lite 3.1 on my ipaq 214, it have big 4" vga screen so it look nice when playing youtube on youtube web site, it is more practical for sites which are using flash, for example flash galeries, flash menus, etc. I'm not sure that adobe will release flash for g1, unfortunatly android allowe only java apps and flash need deeper integration (on lib level) so it cant be in .apk it must be released as update for os, if google will decide to include in future updates like donut (android 2.0) then we will get it...

Flash ads work fine, especially the ones here at xda. Caught me by suprise when i was browsing from my phone lol.
I went to worldstarhiphop.com and clicked on one of the videos there. The player popped up with the lil flash smoke effect. I was able to click play but the vid never started. I thought maybe it was because i was on edge.

Is it possible to upgrade PIE?

Im running THIS ROM, and it has the version of PIE thats included with wm6.1, despite being a wm6.5 ROM.
Im not in any way complaining about this ROM as it is very fast, stable etc.
But, im just wondering if its possible to upgrade to the newer build of PIE.
I dont know if its PIE6 or whatever, as Ive lost track of which is which.
But i cant seem to find a cab for it anywhere (and yes, I have searched)
Is it possible to extract files from a 6.5 emulator and copy them across to your device to use? If yes, could anyone advise me on which files I would need?
If it isnt as simple as this, then, it sucks. lol
So yeh, if anyone can help me with this, ill be very happy.
Plus, i think many others may want to know about this too.
Thanks
Cris

I'm pretty sure it is possible to install IE Mobile 6 separately, but I'm not sure how. Somebody will probably be along to explain.
That said -- I'm not sure I'd recommend doing so! IE6 is a decent browser, but I'd say that Opera 9.7, Iris, and Skyfire are all better. I actually prefer to DOWNGRADE to the old PIE, because it handles mobile sites better than any of the "full" browsers.

yeh, despite the features available in more recent browsers, I still enjoy the simplicity of IE mobile.

If it's basically running PIE 5, then most likely the chef disabled PIE 6.5 with a regedit. Here's how you 'upgrade' it (whether or not it's an upgrade is debatable, lol):
Go to HKLM\Security\Internet Explorer and change the value of 'MSHTML' from 0 to 1 and soft reset. That should do it, unless the chef actually replaced all the PIE stuff with one from an old build (I kind of doubt it).

well, im gonna try this now
If it works, I will be incredibly happy xD

Well, there was no 'MSHTML' entry where you said it would be
Damn.
It appears he did actually replace it.
Oh well. Cant blame me for trying.
At least i now know what to tell others for this problem
THANK YOU TED

You can always try entering the 'MSHTML' value, setting it as a DWord=1. It's worth a try. Just delete it if it doesn't work.

Sounds like the chef may have removed the BROWSINGIE, widgets, and/or another package or two from the ROM.. you could make some cabs out of those missing packages and install them, that would probably set you up and running But afaik there are no existing cabs for this right now, so you'd have to create them.

From reading a few post after doing a search here on XDA_Devs it seems that unfortunately ie needs to be cooked into the rom, there are no cabs available, and the ones that are... don't work! Sorry!

Farmer Ted said:
You can always try entering the 'MSHTML' value, setting it as a DWord=1. It's worth a try. Just delete it if it doesn't work.
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I did try this
Still no luck.
Thanks for your help anyway ^_________^

[Q] Is there any way to get Adobe Flash to run on the ChaCha?

Sorry if this sounds stupid, but I'd like to ask if anyone has figured out how to run Adobe Flash properly on the ChaCha. I've checked Adobe's website, and no, the ChaCha/Status is not listed as a supported unit. Between Adobe killing off further support for Flash and what seems like so far non-existent updates from HTC (there was supposed to be some sort of secruity flaw on certain HTC Android phones, but I've got no firmware updates from HTC or AT &T on my phone from the Settings of the phone ... I've had the phone since almost the second week it came it in America, where I am) it looks like there will be no official release of Adobe Flash 10 or 11 showing up in the Android Market Place for us ChaCha users. I have tried out .apk files from various websites (probably XDA would have been one ... not sure) and got it to install, but wouldn't display flash like it should, just like the default flash support of the ChaCha, which is very limited. I have been able to play a flash game and some videos over the standard web browser with the default flash, but nothing extra with Adobe Flash. I've tried this with 10 and 11 versions, one for Droid, which is supported for Adobe Flash. The 10 did nothing but install without actually doing anything else, and the 11 took me to an Adobe settings page, but I couldn't navigate it fully as there were parts of the screen cut off and an icon I couldn't click no matter how hard I tried. I am guessing there must be some configuration issues in the internal memory files, or just isn't compatible. I can't root right now as I need to find a shop in Sacramento that can do S-off (can't afford XTC Clip now). As a related note, on standard Nokia and Samsung phones (that aren't smart phones) I have successfully run various J2ME programs that were not intended for the device. I was even able to run a game for the Nokia Series 60 phones on a Samsung BlackJack, which is of course Windows Mobile 6 based, but couldn't play due to the keyboard layout. I have had two Nokia Series 40 phones, one which still works, sort of, the Nokia 6030B. The point of this digression is that I figured there would likely be a way to run Android software not intended for the particular device I have, the ChaCha of course. Oh, and since I mentioned J2ME software, anyone been able to run it on the ChaCha, or any Android device? Just curious.

Ask and you shall recieve: http://www.androidcampus.in/2011/10/adobe-flash-player-102-for-armv6-and.html
Full adobe flash for armv6 devices like ours. Not flash lite but the real thing. It runs out of the box on the SuperOSR rom, but you'll probably need to remove flash lite from a Sense based rom in order for this to work, which ultimately means having to be S-OFF.
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Thanks!
Much as I suspected ... would need to root. After Christmas I will look around for a repair/mod shop that can S-off with the XTC Clip or reliable clone. There were several operating out of the Westfield Downtown Plaza (Sacramento) but I do not know if they are still there given how barren much of the mall is now. Also I had a Nokia or Samsung 'dumb phone' I wanted a cable for, and ended up getting one that didn't work, with the wrong drivers on a mini disc. Once I do get S-off by this or other means that may come up in the future I will look into the post you mentioned. According to Wikipedia, Arm 6 is supposed be similiar to Arm 7 but with less instruction sets available. I suppose this is why Adobe's official flash app would not be compatible, but there is no reason why some other flash app from homebrew or whatever might not do something better than the default Android flash (well, default if you didn't get a phone with Adobe Flash on there from the get go ... I think those are all higher spec phones, like some of the Motorola Droid phones). This may be for the best anyway, as Adobe has forsaken the mobile phone users of the world as far as flash goes. Hopefully they will keep Acrobat going. That is a good app to have, albeit not as good as on PC (and Mac?). Sorry if I sound newbish, because I am a newb as far as the technical details. Not since my Nokia 3030b have a had a phone with as much independent development as the ChaCha. I could have done more with that Nokia if it only had an SD card slot or a readily available cable for purchase. Oh well. No point in bothering with that now.

awesome...didn't know there are any flash versions out there for arm6...
so are there any news for version 11 of adobe flash player for arm6?

Tried out the download
After installing the modified Adobe Flash 10.1 APK I tried a some from the Marketplace that said Adobe Flash was needed and a couple worked. I also tried a number of Flash videos and Flash sites and got mixed results. Some wouldn't show up but most ran, but slowly (except for sound). Maybe one or two ran right but I think they may have been optimized for mobile devices. I ran some NicoVideo viewers on my phone and only one was actually able to display the video (complete with Nico's unique comments flashing by during the videos). However, it actually downloaded the videos to the SD card, and MoboPlayer already runs FLV files so it's a bit hard to gauge how effective the Adobe Flash would be, or even if it's running. I checked Adobe's Shockwave page and the little animation came up as well as 'you have version 10,1,1,102,54 installed'. The same would later prove true for the regular Adobe Flash page as well. I repeatedly installed and uninstalled the Flash from the list of installed programs on my phone, but am still able to get the same results regardless of whether it was installed or not. I have a feeling some files must have been stored permanently in Root, which I cannot access as I am S-On, but am not quite sure. As the ChaCha does have rudimentary flash support from the get go despite not being a phone officially supported for the Adobe Flash APK, I cannot be certain. Does anyone with an officially supported phone for Adobe Flash 10.1 get similiar results? How about a rooted phone? Also if anyone has successfully gotten Adobe Flash 11 to run on ChaCha let me know if your flash performance improved from 10.1. Of course even an Adobe Flash APK that is fully useful for our ChaChas would only be of limited use, given Java, Silverlight, and various other plugins, scripts, etc. that currently are in use for videos, video games, and online apps, so don't think that you will be able to run anything. Having Adobe Flash working, even on a so-so level, is a big help though. Please post any experiences you may have had with Adobe Flash or basic Android flash players on your phone and any monkeying around you may have done to make it work or work better.

Tried out some .SWF files off line successfully
With Smart SWF Player (would be good player for just watching Shockwave Flash videos, as opposed to .FLV, files, which run fine too but MoboPlayer already does that well, were it not for the ads. Did not see any ad free version for sale in Market) and SWF Player File Viewer (this has an ad free version, but couldn't press any of the keyboard buttons but space ... maybe I need to look more into it) I was able to successfully run flash files, other than FLV which several video players already do, such as MoboPlayer. SWF Player Filer Viewer said that I had not installed the Adobe Flash Plugin, but ran the files anyway. Upon clicking it I was taken to the Android Marketplace, where it pulled up Adobe Flash 11 which of course is not officially compatible with the ChaCha. Thought I would report my findings. It seems hunch in the last post so far seems correct - Adobe Flash is still on the phone, somewhere, based upon what I have been able to do and see thus far, but isn't quite working as well as it ought to. Perhaps Adobe Flash 11 would do things right? By the way, in the official Marketplace one will see an app called 'Flash Player 12' - I have not tried to run it as the same developer also supposedly had Chrome and GTA (like on a PC or PS2) for Android. That seems quite fishy to me.

here Adobe Flash Player 10.3 for ARM6 Processors...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23720575/do...d_higher_com.adobe.flashplayer_10.3.186.3.apk
Update: seems like it's not installing....

not sure why
Don't know why your 10.3 did not install. Did you try going to Adobe's Flash plugin site to test it out? If it installed it show your flash version and display an animated banner.

DearestLeader said:
I'd like to ask if anyone has figured out how to run Adobe Flash properly on the ChaCha
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Yes! Flash 10.2 is running on my HTC ChaCha, I've shared how I did it in a tutorial here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475575
Root is required, but as you probably know, the XTC clip is no longer required for root. I've added instructions for it all anyway

Currently, there is not a option to run Adobe Flash but a flash edition for BlackBerry is in the performs hopefully this season. Actually, I heard about it at ChaCha as well.

so nice
Usefull question thx