As the Zune and the HD2 have similar capacitive screens surely we could expect games like this on the HD2 soon?
http://www.wmexperts.com/quick-review-new-zune-hd-3d-games
No. you will not see games like that on HD2 soon or later.
simply not.
kersh said:
No. you will not see games like that on HD2 soon or later.
simply not.
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why? You gotta give a more voluminous answer than that..
Zune is not windows mobile, is an specific device like a videoconsole and HD2 is like a PC.
Also, Zune have the tegra processor that is far more powerfull than the snapdragon in graphics, more support and lower resolution.
And, the vast majority of the win mobile phones are not too much powerful, so nobody is gonna make games for a 5% of the market of Windows mobile. Instead of that, they will make games for Iphone, zune or similar.
Zune is not windows mobile, is an specific device like a videoconsole and HD2 is like a PC.
Also, Zune have the tegra processor that is far more powerfull than the snapdragon in graphics, more support and lower resolution.
And, the vast majority of the win mobile phones are not too much powerful, so nobody is gonna make games for a 5% of the market of Windows mobile. Instead of that, they will make games for Iphone, zune or similar.
kersh said:
so nobody is gonna make games for a 5% of the market of Windows mobile. Instead of that, they will make games for Iphone, zune or similar.
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does zune sells more than all the wm world?
its just that microsoft wm sucks without sense and htc and it is difficult to play on a resistive no-multitouch screen..and above all, wm device (eccept the new ones) are very poor as chipset and driver..
We'll be getting our games
No worries everyone. A fellow xda'er found this link, that I now send to you. Looks promising for zune-like wm games.
http://wimogf.codeplex.com/
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A fellow xda'er found this link, that I now send to you. Looks promising for zune-like wm games.
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That's a C# framework. What kind of games do you expect to be written in .Net?
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HI @ all...
my iphone is dead
now i have an HD2 yeha
The iphone was a good game Maschine - so i search 4 good games
First i search a game like PapiJump for the HD2 has anyone ideas???
THX for Answers... cu
If you still have some old PSX cd's, i would strongly suggest you get fpseCE (the upcomming 0.10 version) since that emulates psx, and with decent framerate too! (and well, with 0.10 you can use the HD2's multitouch and g-sensor, the currentlly available version 0.96 isnt very playable on a HD2)
Besides that, just look around a bit for windows mobile games, i can tell you that all 3d games i tried so far (maybe 8, not counting psx games in emu ofc) run great, so just look around a bit, nfsu and other common games all seem to work, though i would suggest you look for a trail of a game before you buy it, after all its a new device, lots of developers dont have (access to) it yet.
Im ashamed to say (since personally im not a apple fan, at all) that the iphone beats windows mobile out of the ballpark when it comes to the amount of available games and apps, given, windows mobile has been around alot longer, but apparently the iphone is **** easy to develop for.
The HD2 (and all other wm 6.5 devices) has a windows marketplace now, there you can easylly buy apps and games, but theres not alot to choose from atm, this will change in the future (when all windows mobile developers update their apps to 6.5)
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HI @ all...
my iphone is dead
now i have an HD2 yeha
The iphone was a good game Maschine - so i search 4 good games
First i search a game like PapiJump for the HD2 has anyone ideas???
THX for Answers... cu
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man there is the thread for that try to have look dont start new thread ..
HD2 Compatible Games
There's a list of confirmed HD2 compatible Games:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588786&highlight=games
there is no reason why this isn't ported yet to winmo... the htc hd2 could easily handle this game.. its just a little frustrating when i see other inferior phones able to play games that we're not.... i guess its just a minor rant...
can't wait for winmo 7... finally then we'll have THE BEST mobile games on a handheld mobile phone device... cause all of xbox live and all the arcade games will be behind it... our time is coming... soon...
You are right, I also think that it is the best game at the moment for mobile devices and I also cant wait to have and play it!
Are you still working an a solution to port it into Windows Mobile 6.5?
Windows Phone will show the world what it takes to be a portable gaming device. Please port it to HD2 before PSP2 comes out. Cause Im buying PSP2 the moment it hits the market.
I've been playing around my newly bought Nexus One and one thing I've found is that while graphics and colours when doing most things in general are so vibrant and beautiful to look at, games look decidedly 2nd rate.
Why is that? Is that something to do with the hardware or the APIs provided by Google? It would be nice to see something like Plants vs Zombies on the iPhone. From my limited use I find the graphics on my Nexus One slightly better than the 3GS on everything except when it comes to games, where it is left far behind. I found that really weird.
On a related note, I'm no developer myself, but I'm of the opinion that the success of the platform will depend a lot on 3rd party development, which means a lot of support given by Google to developers. What's the situation like now? How easy/hard is to develop for Android phones and what are the scopes for improvement?
Bump.
Any opinions from Android developers on here?
its because pre nexus one/desire there was only one android phone which could even play good graphics and that was the moto droid .
give the developers some time ... now that more powerful android phones are coming out, we'll see more and more better looking games ... as an example look at raging thunder 2 ... you might not like racing games but that game has exceptional graphics
nothing as good as the iphone yet, because iphone always had a very powerful gpu from the get go so all of iphone game developers have had that much time to play around with them ... android just started getting powerful gpus
hope that answers ... and anyone with more knowledge, feel free to correct me if i'm wrong
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nothing as good as the iphone yet, because iphone always had a very powerful gpu from the get go so all of iphone game developers have had that much time to play around with them ... android just started getting powerful gpus
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Thanks for the explanation, makes sense. Which new Android phones have good GPUs on board?
Watch out here comes the "Droids"
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Thanks for the explanation, makes sense. Which new Android phones have good GPUs on board?[/QUOTE
Galaxy S doing video game demo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpP5QljEqow&feature=related
Galaxy S vs. Iphone 4:
http://3gsiphone.com/jailbreak-and-...-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-video-review-part-1.html
Reading about GPU:
http://androidandme.com/2010/03/new...bird-chip-to-have-3x-gpu-power-of-snapdragon/
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TT1986 said:
Thanks for the explanation, makes sense. Which new Android phones have good GPUs on board?[/QUOTE
Galaxy S doing video game demo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpP5QljEqow&feature=related
Galaxy S vs. Iphone 4:
http://3gsiphone.com/jailbreak-and-...-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-video-review-part-1.html
Reading about GPU:
http://androidandme.com/2010/03/new...bird-chip-to-have-3x-gpu-power-of-snapdragon/
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Whoa! That is good.
Excellent stuff, good times ahead then.
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its mostly due to the fact that a lot of older phones (eg. the htc hero) dont have gpus whatsoever. the moto droid had a gpu, therefore could run good graphics in a 3d game. the samsung galaxy S has a great gpu on the cpu die and will run some really impressive games on it, in fact, it could run much better looking games than on the iphone.
for a art developers view
Ok well I'm a 14+ year vet of games industry on console games, in technical art production, but my view would be the same as a programmer I would suspect. Just like when doing a multi-platform release back in the ps, saturn, n64, dreamcast etc... days, you dont really want to do lots of work for all platforms. Neither do you want to cut your biggest market chunk out by them not getting the experience others get with better hardware. This takes me back to PC days when we have powerVR primary GPU's, or ATI, or Nvidia, or matrox, well the list got big. The graphics capabilities sometimes had to be addressed almost as if they were different platforms (this is b4 HAL abstraction sweetness and todays DX domination). I suppose at the end of the day, I would not choose to dev only on android for the SGS, that cuts some 99% of the market out. What apple has done is have fixed hardware and Development LIBs for that hardware. This makes it very easy to give all iPhone users the same experience. With android, too many variances in hardware and capability, also maybe hits taken from phone operator system additions and services.
So in my opinion, you cant have such and open system that can have lots of variations and get games in numbers and quality that we see on iphone. Not cause android phones cant do it. Cause not all of them can etc, and it's too varied.
Just my opinion
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So in my opinion, you cant have such and open system that can have lots of variations and get games in numbers and quality that we see on iphone. Not cause android phones cant do it. Cause not all of them can etc, and it's too varied.
Just my opinion
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I see what you mean. It's a lot like Console vs PC isn't it? I'm a PC gamer but i can understand why publishers/developers prefer console because they don't have to deal with a large variety of hardware. In other words, optimizing gaming experiences on Android phones could be harder than on iPhones because of the same reason.
Lets hope the difference isn't too big though.
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I see what you mean. It's a lot like Console vs PC isn't it? I'm a PC gamer but i can understand why publishers/developers prefer console because they don't have to deal with a large variety of hardware. In other words, optimizing gaming experiences on Android phones could be harder than on iPhones because of the same reason.
Lets hope the difference isn't too big though.
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Porting from PC to console and vice-versa is probably easier than iPhone to Android, though.
I remember Valve saying that porting The Orange Box over to the Xbox 360 was very easy. They said something like they put the PC code -- with a few changes like control configuration -- through a 360 compiler and the game was up and running.
Also, with the PC, you have just two major processor brands (Intel and AMD) and two major graphics card brands (NVIDIA and ATI). The APIs and stuff are also far more mature.
google could do what Palm did.
Palms PDK allows porting of iPhone games to the Pre in a matter of hours.
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I remember Valve saying that porting The Orange Box over to the Xbox 360 was very easy. They said something like they put the PC code -- with a few changes like control configuration -- through a 360 compiler and the game was up and running.
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That's probably because it's made in XNA or some other cross platform code. That's one of the things pulling me toward WP7 (that and Zune Pass ).
Devs can write one code base, and in a matter of days have it ported to all major Microsoft software. As an Android dev myself, that would be amazingly useful did I also produce desktop software. I mean think about it, write an app for PC, then also target XBOX360, ZuneHD, normal Zunes, and WP7 all with essentially one codebase with very few small changes between them. That's some amazing stuff.
I toyed with XNA before and it is a beautiful way to code. Not to mention that the C# it uses is essentially Java with a few modifications.
just a quick question: WP7 with Xbox live or iPhone or Android, Which among them would u recommend for hardcore gaming on the go considering present and future support and software? i'm having second thoughts about my device and was thinking of maybe switching. please no consoles, pc's, etc.
If you want HARDCORE gaming, neither WP7 nor iPhone will be good enough...PSP/PSP2 is what you'll want
You could wait for the rumored (dc if it's "confirmed" it's still a rumor to me) Sony phone, supposed to be like a psp running android.
i mean, only from those 3, wp7, iOS and android. i was thinking about gaming on the go with the same device making calls, sms, email, movies, music
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i mean, only from those 3, wp7, iOS and android. i was thinking about gaming on the go with the same device making calls, sms, email, movies, music
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for gaming on the go with the best future potential, i'd say wp7 has that crown.
Currently, android. Give it a few months and WP7.
Currently have an HTC Trophy, wife has an iphone. My mom has an Android (really!). So i guess the right thing to do is stick to WP7 and be patient
as much as i know we have emulators for psx and other conosles on android?^^
winmo got a psx emulator too (not wp7)
Cool, a psx emulator! Thats a plus then. Hate this dilemma
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for gaming on the go with the best future potential, i'd say wp7 has that crown.
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wp7 doesnt have ish for it .. what are u talking about .... only gameloft hd and dungeon defenders are worthwhile games , and theyre for android
that said id reccomend a galaxy s series or psp phone or a tegra2 phone
What screen size do you think you need for hardcore gaming? I can't imagine playing anything in great detail on a screen smaller than a tablet (iPad, Galaxy Tab, etc.)
Any screen size will do i guess or maybe at least 3.5"
Although i will never buy an iPhone, i have to admit that iPhone wins for gaming. Casual gaming, not hardcore. Android sure has WAY morapps then WinMo, but tbh, i was a bit dissapointed at the quantity/quality. iPhone has dedicated officaial game devs, wheras android is open source and there aren't that many blockbusters.
i personally use ny Ipod touch. i don't use my tab for games, there aren't many :/
Android is best for gaming. At CES, lots of new games were demoed for Android.
http://www.appolicious.com/tech/articles/4690-ces-android-other-platforms-see-a-big-gaming-boost
WP7 has the potential to be a big gaming platform, but it's never going to happen if people don't buy it, and so far, they aren't. Of the few who have bought a WP7 phone, fewer people are satisfied with it than people who bought Android phones.
http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/71041
Are phones carrier subsidized in the Phillippines? If not, then you will get a whole lot more phone for the money going with Android over iPhone.
Android has better hardware for games
iPhone has better optimization. The devs all just focus on one device hardware to build upon. the apps are more stable.
Gangstar on my ipod touch 2g is smoother than on my Samsung Galaxy Tab :/
p.s - I'm not a Apple fanboy.
None for now. WP7 might have a chance with XBox Live integration (and I think we might see some XBox games ported over, maybe not), but nothing much right now. iOS does have a ton of casual games, but not too fond of hardcore gaming on it (I think the screen size is way too small). Android has the advantage in hardware (obviously), but has a lack of drivers and, with the exception of emulators, the game selection is poor (might change).
Windows Mobile 6.x True playstation emulator.
FSpcse on TG01 = Unbeatable
(except hd2)
the new PSP
I would wait for the Atrix to come out, as it will be a powerhouse.
iPhone seems to get more support for games though and they are always released on iOS first.
Play Station Phone
ok!ggggggggg
Hello everyone,
Just for the sake of fun. If you have been given the opportunity to decide the future of android, What would you do? Which feature do you want to see in android?
May be people @ Google are 'really' watching this thread. Who knows?
Shoot your opinions
PS: I would say, a multi user (logoff and on) feature so that one can change profiles in office and home. (Haven't seen this as native android feature)
Feature wise, I'd push for smoother graphics, put an end to the "iPhone is faster" trolls.
Smoother ...more exclusives to android.. game mostly ...as gamevil seem to stick every thing on iPhone first ..
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One of the things that holds back game developers is having to do extra work to support multiple GPUs (Tegra, OMAP, Adreno, etc). It would be nice if Android had something like DirectX on Windows where the GPU brand doesn't matter, instead the GPU is certified for a DirectX # level and can run all games up to that #.
There have been some good games out there that were Tegra only early on for example and when you see its incompatible with your graphically capable OMAP device its not good. Judging from the reviews left people don't like when this happens.
I really don't understand why android cannot run as smooth as iphone, i think it's really system problem rather than hardware's problem...
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I really don't understand why android cannot run as smooth as iphone, i think it's really system problem rather than hardware's problem...
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Apple have a few phones they build inhouse, and create software and drivers for it, that they can constantly tune and improve.
Google on the other hand, have to support an unlimited amount of devices and drivers, so they don't get the same time to improve drivers. Not to mention you then get 3rd parties with their own skins and what not.
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