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I'm pissed. I ordered the Celluon Laserkey CL800BT as a mobile keyboard. But it appears it still has not had drivers/installation software created for WM 5. Nowhere on the seller's website did it mention this very critical piece of information. The Celluon website utterly fails to even mention the existence of WM 5 as something they either support or don't support, it's like they're stuck in 2003.
So, the question is... Is it possible to get this thing working on WM 5? I'm not sure if the input panel changes from 2003 to 5 are so big that the drivers supplied won't work or if it might be possible to just fiddle with the registry keys enough to get it to use the 2003 drivers. I figured out that certain registry structure changes were made in how the input software gets listed and so I tried to "upgrade" the entry for the Laserkey and that got the "Projection Keyboard" appearing in the list, but when I select it it just switches to the built-in WM keyboard input.
So, please, all you super clever people, help!!!
Quincy
Wow, that's a neat product. Thing is there is no difference in software keyboards between WM 5 and 2003 but what you have is a hardware keyboard that connects via BT.
If the drivers don't work it means they don't support your devices hardware or BT stack.
Unfortunately short of writing new drivers i do not see a solution to this.
I assume you tried installing it using the WM 2003 setup?
If it doesn't work i think you should ask for your money back.
Thanks, yeah, I tried the install for PPC 2003 and that completes, but as I mentioned the "Projection Keyboard" option in the SIP list does NOT appear. So I figured how what registry tweaking would make it appear but selecting it doesn't work. I changed the registry to point to the DLL I presumed should be called (there were only 2 that came with it, and I tried both) but nothing. I assume the SIP hooks into the DLL/etc. have changed from 2003 to 5.
It is an amazing product, if only it worked. Celluon must be in bad shape or something for them not to have current drivers (I contacted their tech support and have not heard back yet...). There are few things more annoying than having in your hands something that is amazingly cool and having absolutely no ability to use it.
I talked to the seller and it looks like they'll take it back, but I'm stunned they wouldn't have a big warning or at least a little warning/mention of the fact that it won't work on the current PPC OS.
So, warning to all, don't buy the Celluon Laserkey if you've got WM 5!
Quincy
One thing I just thought of, probably should have mentioned it before (this is really stupid of me):
Maybe the DLL you are messing with is not a SIP DLL at all? This is a hardware keyboard and it should work no matter what software keyboard is selected.
So try to do a clean installation (so your registry tweaks won't get in the way) and just open Word for example and type.
Also maybe it needs parring or some special BT settings?
Good suggestion, Levenum. I don't know exactly it is supposed to work, but I do know that you use the SIP selector to choose the "Projection Keyboard" and then it takes input from the keyboard. So, I'm pretty sure it really does act as a SIP. I've tried re-installing a few times, along the lines you suggest, having cleared everything out but still no luck.
I guess I'll wait another couple days and ship it back. I've written several times to Celluon but have yet to hear anything.
Quincy
Hmm, if they have written it this way (its possible of course) it would be a very stupid approach.
I had a chance to use a couple of hardware keyboards and they usually work separately from the SIP system be it BT or IR keyboard.
Strange that company creating a product primarily for mobile devices seems to know so little about them.
I too have the same problem with my IPAQ hx2490b running WM5.
I have found this web site which hosts a Celluon Laserkey driver for WM5 which installs OK without any registry changes.
The problem is that when the Projection Keyboard is seleted from the Input list and from the keyboard icon, I get a message to say BTM Cannot get current state. If I exit from the driver screen, I then get an error to say that the serial port is in use by another device which should be stopped before trying to use the Projection Keyboard again.
I have removed all of my other BT pairings, done a hard reset and started from scratch to no avail.
The CL800BT pairs OK until I load the driver. If anyone has any ideas for a workaround or has had success in getting this keyboard to work under WM5 I would be grateful for your advice.
I have emailed Celluon but have had no reply. The UK distributor has been trying to sort this for me for a week with no success.
IPAQ hx2490b
ROM 1.02.h
OS 5.1.1702 (Build 14366.1.0.1)
http://www.plawa.com/support/downloads/drivers/laserkey/
Laserkey and hp2490
Thanks for the info guys I found the web site and installed the 2005 drivers but as I expected I have the same problemb< ihave tried Celluon (waste of time never reply)
Looks like my new toy will have to go back unless anyone finds the answer
sucessfull test
Dear all,
there is a WM5-driver on the plawa page aviable -
and it's working as well on WM6 (testet with Hermes)!
okay, that's not a surprise - but the german shortcuts
are working as well!
can I have a link to the plawa page you refer to? I want to use it on wm6 too.
thanks
I've noticed that when I open my keyboard and thus starting the landscape mode, the menu's are all screwed up?? Am I the only one,...
is there a fix for my problem?
thx in advance!!!
I don't usually bold my writing on this forum but I am getting sick of all this update crap. There is already a thread, which discusses the dutch update rom. You could have posted the issue there instead of starting a new thread. If I created a thread for every problem i have I would be banned from this site. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393716
@mister_b
disable clear type fonts and soft reset you handset. See if it fixed the issue
thank you, that actually did the trick!
That's right, it's not only a bug in DUTCH version but in french WM6.1 too.
When you enable cleartype in landscape with Schaps_AdvancedConfig_v2.1.0.0 you'll have this bug.
Now I have another problem? Why does this update suck so much? :-( When I start the GPS, it automaticly turns on GPRS for NO reason at all!?? Why is it doing this?
@mister_b
Here's an answer for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2241142&postcount=53
As many others I've had the error message 86000107 during ActiveSync synchronization. In my case the cause was the multiple change of ringtones on the PPC using 'VIP PIM Ringtone' (used version, see signature). Think, the cause was not using the tool but having changed >100 contacts at once.
Solution in ActiveSync on PC:
Uncheck 'contacts' in synchronization options. Take care: This will delete your contacts on PPC and your individual assignments of ringtones to contacts, too!
Confirm Deletion.
Synchronize without having 'contacts' checked. Now everything could work fine.
Check the option 'contacts' again.
Synchronize having 'contacts' checked.
Now try assigning individual ringtones again. But check synchronization after each assignment. Perhaps you find out more (ringtone not proper? ...).
llok like it is Active sync 4.5 with Wm6.1 device
Look look like if many changes happend between two sync then Active sync 4.5 with wm6.1 produce error.
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Look look like if many changes happend between two sync then Active sync 4.5 with wm6.1 produce error.
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Sorry to double post the same thing but
I don’t think its to do with the amount of data changed to be synced ,I have desk top cradle at home and in the office and I stand the phone in the cradles to charge and even if I have not changed any data the issue still happens ??
But if I un check JUST THE CONTACTS let the device sync it is ok if I then check contacts its ok again ,that is until it see the other pc this happen when no data has been changed on pc1 pc1 or ppc
Actually, it is the amount of information, but it isn't just ringtones. If you have more than 100 of anything, it will cause this error. 100 contacts, 100 appointments, 100 tasks, 100 notes, anything. Since I have far more than 100 (1300 contacts, 397 appointments in the next 2 weeks), I get the error every time I switch from one computer to another. There is a solution, but nobody is as yet releasing it. Microsoft has acknowledged it is a WM 6.1 problem, and they have supposedly released a patch, AKU 1.2. But either it has not actually been released, or all the providers are currently evaluating it and won't admit it.
I wrote HTC earlier today inquiring about the AKU 1.2 patch, and got the response that my provider would have to release it for them to provide it on their site. My provider is US Cellular. I called tec support, the original rep had no idea what I was talking about, but he transferred me to the tec support specifically for smartphones, and talked with a rep. She also didn't know about the problem, but searched their knowledge base. She first tried to give me the "solution" many have tried (removing the relationship, etc.), then she found the AKU 1.2 patch I had told her was the real solution, and acknowledged this was the real answer. Unfortunately, she says that Microsoft has not yet released the patch. My complaint was noted, but she said there was nothing to do until Microsoft released the patch. My response was that they needed to call Microsoft and complain, just I was doing with US Cellular.
I suggest that everyone needs to start calling your provider and asking when the patch will be made available. We need to light some fires. If I'm the only unhappy customer, that's too bad. If they start getting lots of unhappy customers, perhaps they will become a little more motivated. I seem to have been the first unhappy person to have called US Cellular.
To cut down the time you have to stay on hold, if you are a US Cellular customer, here's the direct # for the tec center that deals with smartphones: 888-996-5499
BTW, one suggestion the rep had was to reinstall WM6.1. "It won't hurt anything". I installed 6.1 it at the beginning of the week, and just got everything the way I liked it, including installing TouchFlo 2D. Even with backing stuff up, this isn't the solution I'm looking for. Has anyone else tried this? Does anyone want to? Can anyone see a reason why installing it a second time would make it work, when Microsoft has acknowledged they have a problem?
... i faced the same problem... founding finally the best solution - promissed.
Just use Pocket Mirror Prof. for Calendar, Tasks and Contacts. Notes u can still use with AS.
It will sync 100% without probs, much faster and seeing what is left.
(contacts about 4500, 3500 calendar entries in 30 min.)
Cheers
himariohere said:
... i faced the same problem... founding finally the best solution - promissed.
Just use Pocket Mirror Prof. for Calendar, Tasks and Contacts. Notes u can still use with AS.
It will sync 100% without probs, much faster and seeing what is left.
(contacts about 4500, 3500 calendar entries in 30 min.)
Cheers
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So your solution is to buy a $50 program, instead of MS fixing their problem? This sounds like the spam another thread warning noobs was talking about.
MS have fixed the problem in later AKU releases - it's down to the vendor to implement the fix on within their ROM's...
The HTC Diamond has been fixed, the Pro will be fixed, the HD will not have the problem, etc. etc.
Grey handsets are the Dual, Cruise, TyTN 2 and x7510 - this all use AKU1.2 so shall be affected the the '107' problem.
If your handset is branded, you will need to petition them in order for the fix to be released.
yrreP said:
MS have fixed the problem in later AKU releases - it's down to the vendor to implement the fix on within their ROM's...
The HTC Diamond has been fixed, the Pro will be fixed, the HD will not have the problem, etc. etc.
Grey handsets are the Dual, Cruise, TyTN 2 and x7510 - this all use AKU1.2 so shall be affected the the '107' problem.
If your handset is branded, you will need to petition them in order for the fix to be released.
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I have, my first post was meant to encourage others to do the same.
Bogy54 said:
So your solution is to buy a $50 program, instead of MS fixing their problem? This sounds like the spam another thread warning noobs was talking about.
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First of all, I agree on that "MS needs to to fix that".
By the way, I talked to MS and I talked to SE, both linked to each others.
In differrent forums, the topic is hot without any proofen tested "YES it works".
For this reason, I open to pay an amount for a working solution.... and meanwhile, where other people are trying to fix and to fix and to fix.... I go riding my snowboard, knowing everything works
How is that....
error message
The '100' contacts error message cropped up on my touch pro today - Im back in xda land after my mini-s died when water entered my jacket pocket on my motorbike! The xda finally came back to life....but its backlight didnt.... ah well. I played with a google G1 for three weeks before crawling back to winmo...fancy that. Android is so much easier to use than windows mobile...shame about the hardware.... but soon..... soon...
Anyway im just about to reinstall the 690 contacts on my pro - Im only posting because I happen to notice I have 90 entries in my calendar! ooo close one!
Time goes by without a working solution.
Any help yet?
Dear all,
I'm facing a problem with all ROMs including the new versions of Manila 2.5.2012 and newer, which is driving me crazy.
Roms work ok, but after sync with my work's exchange account (exchange 2007 sever), Manila suddenly start to freeze continuously. Specially when accessing HTC People which is checking the emails received from each contact.
I spent long hours trying to find out what could be the problem, flashed several different ROMs, task29, hard rested, and made several test with different configurations and always the same problem. I can't have my corporate exchange email and run Manila 2.5.2012.
Edit:
After investigation, it seems that this problem affect other people (including HD2 users) and no only with exchange.
Problem is related to the package Contact Utility engine.
I tried cooking with the newer packages, but I got the problem, so I'm stuck with Manila 2.5.1921
The problem appears when you have a complex email folder structure on your email account (many folders and subfolders), large quantity of contacts with several emails and details on each contact or when you have or restore large quantity of SMSs.
When you click on a contact, Manila.exe and filesys.exe use 100% of the CPU, blocking the device.
Question:
Does someone knows how manila handles the filesys.exe?
Do you know what polices your IT department pushes to any mobile device?
ypsmav said:
Dear all,
I'm facing a problem with all ROMs including the new versions of Manila 2.5.2012, which is driving me crazy.
Roms work ok, but after sync with my work's exchange account, Manila suddenly start to freeze continuously. Specially when accessing HTC People which is checking the emails received from each contact.
I spent long hours trying to find out what could be the problem, flashed several different ROMs, task29, hard rested, and made several test with different configurations and always the same problem. I can't have my corporate exchange email and run Manila 2.5.2012.
I checked with other people running same ROMs and also corporate email and they were not suffering the same problem.
The only major difference I found are the Exchange server policies loaded on my device when I set up the activesync connection.
As normal in these cases my IT dept is not helping.
Before I give up, I'd like to know if there is any tool to block, log or revert the server policies.
I'll appreciate your guidance.
Brgds
PD: Funny enough older Roms with Manila 2.5.1920 works without problem, but really want to update to the newest versions which run faster and feature new tabs.
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There is a utility that might helped and it's called "stay unlocked".
Oh and I should mention I dont notice anything like that on my ROM and I have exchange 2010 as well.
raftbone said:
Do you know what polices your IT department pushes to any mobile device?
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NRGZ28 said:
There is a utility that might helped and it's called "stay unlocked".
Oh and I should mention I dont notice anything like that on my ROM and I have exchange 2010 as well.
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thanks for your replies.
I gave a try to the "Stay Unlocked" utility, works nice, but only prevent the lock to be installed, other policies seems to be applied.
It created the log (attached), with all the policies downloaded to the phone, but not detailed enough to understand which one has been applied and which is the registry key that could be creating the problem.
I'm running out of ideas...
HI
I'm just having the same issue
I have post on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=675661
I have found that if I just sync contacts manila is fast. But If I sync contacts and Emails, every time I got to contact detail is very slow, caling a diferent number of the contact can take 10 secs.. If I select the email tab of the contact is slow also.
All these slowdowns are fixed if I don't sync the emails..
Did you find a solution?
Thanks!
Note: like you with mabila 2.5.19 everything is fast but with manila is > 2.5.2012 then There are slowdowns..
Hi,
No, I haven't found a solution yet.
I've seen that you are on a HD2, which is much faster than my blackstone. If you are having problems with 1 Ghz, I'm dead....
I've been looking if posible to extract the HTC people from Manila 2.5.1920 and install over the 2.5.2012, but I didn't time to try, and It also doesn't seem to be easy as Manila is quite complex. Maybe NRGZ28 could help (Please!)
Have you tried to ask your IT dept to remove the IT policies and try again after a hard reset? My IT people sucks and not helping...
BTW, I had to flash an old 2.5.1920 Rom....
I am facing the same but not syncing with Exchange but with Lotus Notes and the "Traveller" sync software.
Only with ML 1.5 WWE from Dutty it is working at the moment.
Best regards,
dingolino
ypsmav said:
Dear all,
I'm facing a problem with all ROMs including the new versions of Manila 2.5.2012, which is driving me crazy.
Roms work ok, but after sync with my work's exchange account, Manila suddenly start to freeze continuously. Specially when accessing HTC People which is checking the emails received from each contact.
I spent long hours trying to find out what could be the problem, flashed several different ROMs, task29, hard rested, and made several test with different configurations and always the same problem. I can't have my corporate exchange email and run Manila 2.5.2012.
I checked with other people running same ROMs and also corporate email and they were not suffering the same problem.
The only major difference I found are the Exchange server policies loaded on my device when I set up the activesync connection.
As normal in these cases my IT dept is not helping.
Before I give up, I'd like to know if there is any tool to block, log or revert the server policies.
I'll appreciate your guidance.
Brgds
PD: Funny enough older Roms with Manila 2.5.1920 works without problem, but really want to update to the newest versions which run faster and feature new tabs.
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ypsmav said:
Hi,
No, I haven't found a solution yet.
I've seen that you are on a HD2, which is much faster than my blackstone. If you are having problems with 1 Ghz, I'm dead....
I've been looking if posible to extract the HTC people from Manila 2.5.1920 and install over the 2.5.2012, but I didn't time to try, and It also doesn't seem to be easy as Manila is quite complex. Maybe NRGZ28 could help (Please!)
Have you tried to ask your IT dept to remove the IT policies and try again after a hard reset? My IT people sucks and not helping...
BTW, I had to flash an old 2.5.1920 Rom....
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hi .
yes this is a manila problem but I'm not sure if is a exchange policy problem .
I have an exchange 2010 server, I have check the policies all are set as default , no modifycations. no password lock etc.. I have check the report email on the sync process and there are no errors .
also there are other users with lotus so.. I don't think is a policy problem. this is just a software problem and is related to my post. people tab makes a lookup to emails and this change has been introduced on manila 2.5.20 . on manila 2.5.19 there is a lookup but only when you select the email tab of the contact .
I have install a manila kitchen to see if I can find some think..
I will post more info on my post
Iosu
I've seen your post and notice that there are more people having the same problem.
What it's really strange it's that not all the people using exchange is facing the problem. This is what it's making me think that it's related to the config of the server.
Let's see if the newer manila version works better.
ypsmav said:
I've seen your post and notice that there are more people having the same problem.
What it's really strange it's that not all the people using exchange is facing the problem. This is what it's making me think that it's related to the config of the server.
Let's see if the newer manila version works better.
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Hi
I control my servers so If you know want to test I can test.
BTW... I have move all the email fields of the contact to the Notes field and now "All people" is fast!
new manila packages from Leo 2.13
Hi,
The new manila packages from the Leo 2.13 are out, and all contact related packages has been upgraded.
Hopefully the contact lockup is gone.
I waiting for NRGZ28 to realease a new ROM with these new packages and give a try.
I have this issue. In my case the problem was caused by a large number of text messages from the person I was choosing for my contacts tab.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=675661
In my case, I have no sms. I got the problem after a flashing just when sync with exchange.
I'm trying to cook a ROM with the new manila 2.5.201x, but including the old packages from 2.5.1920 related to the people tab, but no luck so far...
I have the problem, too. No idea what the solution is, but wanted to let you guys know the problem is affecting others, too.
packages to CAB
Hi,
Does someone know how to make a cab from a Manila package?
I tried with the tools found in the forum, but it's really complicated.
I'd like to create the cabs with the packages mentioned on the first post.
Thanks
moved to the right forum, please post in the correct forums.
same problem with manila 2.16 ....
I don't know what else to try
Hi,
the only solution I found up to now is to reduce the folders/subfolders that I have in the exchange inbox, in order that the manila contact engine can have a ligther cemail.vol and do the email search by contact faster.
After cooking my own ROMs I found that the package which is creating the problem is the Contact Utility engine.
I tried to cook the old contact utility engine with newer Manila versions, but they crash, so still stuck on Manila 2.5.1921...
I fixed my problem doing a Hard Reset and uninstalling the Palm Translator software pt-BR. So, I'm still using 6.1 and I'm very happy with it.
Guys,
I'm in desperate mode on. It has been two days I updated my treo 750 to wm. 6.1 ( Treo750_OS5_2_19199WWE_STD). Everything went just fine. The system is nice and all. A little bit faster than the old 6.0.
But then the nightmare started: My "Notes" and "Task Manager" are there but don't work! I put Network frame 3.5... but nothing happened.
These are the two app I most use! I know there is a lot of other apps but I wanna use these ones that came with the wm.
I have two choices: downgrade to wm 6.0 or fix this issues. I've been without sleep for two days 'cause every procedure I try to downgrade fails! I tried this one ( Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater) but it says "you already have a newer version installed". And yes, I tried changing the payloads archive.
I tried Cheetah Unlocker, SD card method but nothing happens, just the three color screen saying serial or usb. It also says:
CHEE100
IPL-0.20
CHEE100
SPL-1.40.OliNex
The info about my phone is:
Windows Mobile 6 Professional (the start screen says 6.1 Professional)
CE OS 5.2.19199 (Build 19199.1.0.0)
Software Version: TREO750-2.27-RWE
Firmware version: 1.12.0c.00
CC-CAP: GEN-ENG-010
I also tried T750URT but it does nothing but getting my firmware to 1.12.0c.00.
I took the 6.0 rom from here: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335402
Are them really 6.0? I took the "Generic Rest-of-world - English"
Please guys help me. I've been searching over here and other forums and I just can't make it work. I chose this forum to subscribe and post 'cause it looks like the more expert. What am I doing wrong? I got this phone last weekend and I'm pretty new to this HTC world. My first smartphone! I live in Brazil and everything, even my 3G connection was working on the 6.0. This device came from USA 1 year ago and the last owner (my friend) just put the portuguese-br translator and used it.
I think I'm not forgetting any information. Thanks in advance. Going to try to sleep.
Peterson
I'm using the same rom and the two app. work fine.
After search in the internet I found this link for rom 6.0
http://depositfiles.com/ru/files/1336491
but first check what is wrong with the 6.1 rom ...
One more thing - there are softwares that you can download and do the same job even better...( replace "Notes" and "Task Manager")...
one more link for rom 6
http://rapidshare.com/files/173145556/Treo750_2.23_ROW_WM6.rar
My 6.1 ROM is working superbly, +some registry edits to speed it up even more! It's more likely, that something went wrong in the flashing process. Just try again the same 6.1...
Thanks!
Thank you all for your words. You won't believe what happened.
@libal
This morning I was in classroom and I had a crazy idea. I pressed the red button (to end calls) and reset at the same time and erased all the data. Guess what? Everything is working fine! But I sure remember about doing this same reset stuff after upgrading. Anyway, I didn't put the translator to PT-BR yet. I'll try now and if anything goes wrong, I'll just reset it again and leave in English. English wouldn't be a problem to me as you see. I'm thinking about my wife (she's still learning English).
I wanna thank you both 'cause I just gave it a try after reading that you were not having problems with the same phone. Thanks for your time and patience.
@otoinsa
Is this safe? I mean, editing registries to get a faster wm? Can you tell me which mods or just point the link about what you did? Thanks again.
By editing the registry you can customize a lot of stuff (for me replacing left soft key's permanent "e-mail" to SMS was a must. Now under "SMS" I have a submenu containing "e-mail" AND "messaging"), also disable a lot of useless windows mobile features, or enable (power management - longer lasting battery).
To some extent it's completely harmless, just try to avoid experimenting with it too much! There are a lot of instructions on the web, most common keywords used for search are "windows mobile registry hacks" or "pocket pc registry edits". It's best to add the version number (WM 6.1 for example) when searching. Also don't confuse your Treo 750 with Windows Mobile Smartphones - they don't have a touchscreen and those run a different type of Windows Mobile. It's almost the same, however there are some differences...
Most of the older WM regedits will work on 6.1. Also Treo has some Palm-specific registers. Just for starters, here's a link:
http://pocketnow.com/wiki/Windows_Mobile_6.1_Registry_Edits#Power
Wish you luck and hope you'll help to keep the 750 alive in this forum! Post your success afterwards.
I found it!
I found the problem. After doing all the customization and testing all the apps, I installed the translator Pt-BR from Palm's site. Guess what? All the apps I mentioned before stopped working. I did the uninstall process and guess what again? Everything was in English again and most important: working!
So this is the trick: don't use Palm Translator (at least pt-BR) if you are using a non-official wm6.1 rom.
The guy who sold me this Treo has the Treo Pro 850 now. Such a nice device, but 750 was my first pocket pc and I won't forget about that.
Gotta change the post title to resolved lol. But don't lock it yet. Maybe someone else may has a experience to share with us.
Peterson