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Restore Internet Calling in Faria's WM6 ROM?

I have been attempting to add Interenet Calling to Faria's WM6 ROM by adding the necessary files and registry changes and re-cooking the ROM but I am getting nowhere fast. I have managed to add some files to the original ROM, make a couple of registry changes fine and change some settings in the initflashfiles.dat file to remove some shortcuts I don't want and I can get this to work fine, however re-adding the IP Phone stuff is a bit more of a task.......
I have extracted the files (or modules) from the MB ROM and added the regsistry changes and the ROM cooks just fine. When I flash the Wizard though it completes sucessfully and then reboots. I get the 1st splash screen but then when the 2nd splashscreen should appear I get a white screen. The Wizard is working as I can hear the bleep when it asks you to 'tap the screen to set up the device'. It also powers on and off OK, but I only ever get this white screen.
I have tried this about 4 times now and I am convinced the registry changes and required files are correct, but each time I get this white screen. Any ideas?
Andy

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290786
Read this... especially towards the end.

trojan9x said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290786
Read this... especially towards the end.
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Already read it..... I can get Internet Calling back if I launch the VoIP.CAB that is included in that thread after installation, however I want these to be integrated into the ROM like they were originally (Faria has removed them). As I said I have had some sucess with adding other files and other registry changes it is just this bit that I am stuck on.
I did manage to get a bit further but ended up with a corrupt Today screen, no idea what happened there though
Andy

What are you stuck on?... you said you didn't have it, but now you said you can get internet calling... what exactly are you trying to do?

Faria has said that his rom takes up almost the entire space alotted. Have you tried removing some files from the rom to clear up room for the VoIP files?

trojan9x said:
What are you stuck on?... you said you didn't have it, but now you said you can get internet calling... what exactly are you trying to do?
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I want to restore the Internet Calling option in Faria's WM6 ROM - pretty simple to understand really
I can add it manually via the VoIP.cab file but this obviously takes up RAM and can be removed via 'Remove Programs'. I would like to add the files that are missing and make the necessary registry changes then re-cook the ROM. I would prefer to keep Faria's base ROM.
I haven't tried removing anything from Faria's ROM so far, I didn't realise it was near the limit - I thought we had 128MB to play with on the Wizard, are we near that already?
Andy

Listen.. that cab only does registry fixes and puts in the NECESSARY files for the current voip functionality. it does not install anything that is not needed. Extract the cab and look at the xml file. it will tell you exactly what it does...Pretty simple concept

trojan9x said:
Listen.. that cab only does registry fixes and puts in the NECESSARY files for the current voip functionality. it does not install anything that is not needed. Extract the cab and look at the xml file. it will tell you exactly what it does...Pretty simple concept
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Yep, already done that, hence my original post.....
I have added the necessary registry changes/additions and proof-read them several times, however once the ROM is cooked and installed the thing reboots, I get the 1st splash screen OK, then the white screen when the 2nd splash screen should appear and that's it.
I will have a look at how bloated the DUMP directory is with the additional files in there and see if I am going over 128MB.
Andy

The DUMP folder is apparently 122MB (128,512,401 Bytes) but is taking up 132MB (139,141,120) on the disk on my PC. Does anyone know if this is too big? If it is what is safe to remove?
Thanks
Andy

Done it.......
If anyone is interested I managed to get Internet Calling back into Faria's ROM.....
What I did originally was correct, however the file (or modules) that are needed for Internet Calling total about 3.5MB, which I think was slightly too much and would make the ROM bigger than 128MB (I think Faria must have realised this when developing his ROM and removed them to save space). I have been through the installed applications and files and have removed some stuff that I don't use. I then re-built the ROM and low and behold it worked first time and Internet Calling is now an option...
It still doesn't work however but that is just because it needs a provisioning XML file from a provider. Hopefully when WM6 devices appear we will be able to extract a provisioning XML file and dig deeper........
And no, the ROM is not available since this is Faria's work and not mine.
Andy

Nice,
I’m new to this and the only thing that I need from WM6 is the “Internet Calling”
I have no ides how to make the voip work. But I fond this at Microsoft.
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms898226.aspx
I really would like to test this with my “asterisk server” (http://www.asterisk.org/)
/joad

Where did you find the "Internet Calling total about 3.5MB" module?
Or maby you have changed your mind and feel like chairing your ”build” of WM6

joad said:
Nice,
I’m new to this and the only thing that I need from WM6 is the “Internet Calling”
I have no ides how to make the voip work. But I fond this at Microsoft.
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms898226.aspx
I really would like to test this with my “asterisk server” (http://www.asterisk.org/)
/joad
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I have exactly the same intentions, joad. I've got wm6 on my O2 XDA mini so I can try and connect to my Asterisk server as well!
Let's hope his eventually works.
N

joad said:
Where did you find the "Internet Calling total about 3.5MB" module?
Or maby you have changed your mind and feel like chairing your ”build” of WM6
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You need to add the following files into the ROM (the 1st 3 are actually modules and are in directories with the same name):
dnsapi.dll
rtcdll.dll
voipphonecanvas.dll
ipdialplan.xml
ringback.wma
You also need to add the registry entries to the default.hv and user.hv that are contained in the '_setup.xml' file from the VoIP.CAB file (or extract them from another ROM that already contains Internet Calling).
HTH
Andy

joad said:
Where did you find the "Internet Calling total about 3.5MB" module?
Or maby you have changed your mind and feel like chairing your ”build” of WM6
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Joad,
I agree with you. The 3.5 Mb footprint is inflated.
It's only 1.75 MB (remember if you are using recmod when you are unpacking the ROM with viewimgfs, you have two copies of the files that are stored as modules: the module version and a file copy!.
--eluth.

eluth, I knew that somebody out there would have done the right job. Congratulation! Would you mind making your rom available to us?
Thank you
Gio2003

Pleaaaaaaaaaaaaase !!!!!!
There are so many people wanting to do this now - and I have a MAJOR need for this on a Hermes -- I have a solid SIP provider and can get to it with my other apps but integration I can't test ---
I am trying soooo hard to pin this down. I have not found a single ROM yet that has the "complete" add-in of what you mention here.
It would be GREATLY APPRECIATED.
Thanks
gio2003 said:
eluth, I knew that somebody out there would have done the right job. Congratulation! Would you mind making your rom available to us?
Thank you
Gio2003
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ckolibab said:
There are so many people wanting to do this now - and I have a MAJOR need for this on a Hermes -- I have a solid SIP provider and can get to it with my other apps but integration I can't test ---
I am trying soooo hard to pin this down. I have not found a single ROM yet that has the "complete" add-in of what you mention here.
It would be GREATLY APPRECIATED.
Thanks
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This .CAB worked on my Wizard with Faria's WM6 real thing ROM that had the VoIP stuff removed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1147821&postcount=138
I then added the files and registry settings back and re-cooked the ROM.
HTH
Andy

Post install script

Is there instructions on creating a post-flash (or hard reset) install script? I'd like to have it run the cingular WAP cab, and maybe a couple others. I think I've been all over, but haven't seen anything...
Thanks!

Also - does anyone have a package or cab for camera 3.3???

Hi Matt... there are a couple of options...
First off, you could go the route that Faria does in his kitchen - effectively an Extended ROM folder under Windows. When the ROM install has finished and you've done the screen align, it runs the Extended ROM contents - just like the customisations you get in most operator ROMs. The advantage of doing it from a subfolder under Windows is that it works for G4 users as well as G3.
The other alternative is to actually flash your Extended ROM (this is what I've done, as mine is G3).
With the right files in Windows and Windows\Startup (CheckAutoRun.exe and CheckAutoRun.lnk respectively) and the registry entries set up for the appropriate location (I can tell you what these need to be), it will run no problem.
Is this what you're looking for? Faria also has a nice couple of utils that run during customisation and let you choose which operator's settings (GPRS and MMS) you wish to install. I guess these just run the appropriate CAB file based on your choice.
I am happy to help you set this up if it would be of assistance, having spent the last couple of days trying to get all this stuff up and running.

JoelC said:
Hi Matt... there are a couple of options...
First off, you could go the route that Faria does in his kitchen - effectively an Extended ROM folder under Windows. When the ROM install has finished and you've done the screen align, it runs the Extended ROM contents - just like the customisations you get in most operator ROMs. The advantage of doing it from a subfolder under Windows is that it works for G4 users as well as G3.
The other alternative is to actually flash your Extended ROM (this is what I've done, as mine is G3).
With the right files in Windows and Windows\Startup (CheckAutoRun.exe and CheckAutoRun.lnk respectively) and the registry entries set up for the appropriate location (I can tell you what these need to be), it will run no problem.
Is this what you're looking for? Faria also has a nice couple of utils that run during customisation and let you choose which operator's settings (GPRS and MMS) you wish to install. I guess these just run the appropriate CAB file based on your choice.
I am happy to help you set this up if it would be of assistance, having spent the last couple of days trying to get all this stuff up and running.
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It sounds like your first point is what I was looking for - but up till now I've avoided adding / manipulating the extended rom to prevent issues related to it's use. I guess I'll have to cross that bridge sooner than later!
Is there a "howto" anywhere on it? I'd like to add the option for users to select post installation packages to run, in a nice and "foolproof" way - such as themes, WAP cabs, or whatever. Kinda like "drop your post install cabs in this folder" and it'll go ahead and add them during the rom build, then execute the install after flashing.
Thanks!

mattk_r said:
It sounds like your first point is what I was looking for - but up till now I've avoided adding / manipulating the extended rom to prevent issues related to it's use. I guess I'll have to cross that bridge sooner than later!
Is there a "howto" anywhere on it? I'd like to add the option for users to select post installation packages to run, in a nice and "foolproof" way - such as themes, WAP cabs, or whatever. Kinda like "drop your post install cabs in this folder" and it'll go ahead and add them during the rom build, then execute the install after flashing.
Thanks!
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search lol i'll try and dig it up for you since i should probably do the same thing
try this of course editing it to where you want it to point:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm]
"AutoRunCFG"="\\Extended_ROM\\config.txt"
"AutoRun"="\\Extended_ROM\\autorun.exe"

notyourdaddy said:
search lol i'll try and dig it up for you since i should probably do the same thing
try this of course editing it to where you want it to point:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm]
"AutoRunCFG"="\\Extended_ROM\\config.txt"
"AutoRun"="\\Extended_ROM\\autorun.exe"
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I just found this link that has an extended rom in it. It makes a lot of sense, especially the txt file that directs the installation and then initiates a reset. Getting warmer!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309922

So here's what I'm thinking - just initial thoughts:
Have a folder with the base applications that are used every time like AutoRun.exe.
The user places the cab(s) in the "add files to ext rom" folder.
They run an exe that reads the directory file contents, verifies file type, copies the files to the extended rom folder, and displays the list. I'd write it in VB, since I'm most comfortable with file system operations in that language...
They change the list based on the order they want them installed using up and down arrows to sort priority.
The click OK, and it creates the config.txt file, including all necessary commands such as reset and whatnot.
That way when they build, it's all good to go.
Any thoughts?

Slightly off topic but does anyone have a .CAB for TomTom6 (or know how to edit/make one) that doesn't require user input during the installation?
I am not looking for a hacked version of TomTom, just how to prevent it asking me where to install. .CABs that run from the Extended ROM can't ask for user input or it will crash the extended ROM installation as we know; I just don't know how to edit the ttn.cab to stop it asking.
Thanks
Andy

Hi Matt,
It does sound like the first option is the best - it's also the only way to get G4 compatibility. I think your idea to write a VB app is a good one - let the user choose which CABs to install to ExtRom, but I think u need to be very clear what you want to achieve. As this `ExtRom` is not actually in the proper extended Rom, but just a folder under Windows, you gain nothing really by installing programs from here, best just keeping it for operator specific settings and such.
The other issue with extended Rom installations, of any type, is that the config file must run to completion. if you put in cab files that require user input, the install will fail (at least from a proper extRom, maybe ok in this scenario, I don't know); likewise cabs that require or initiate a soft reset will cause an ExtRom install to crash. So, this sorts of limits what cabs can be used. mine puts in personal reg settings; no operator settings as I use wifi not gprs or mms.
Also - and I hope I'm not out of line here, or misunderstanding you - Faria has something that does exactly what u need in his fake ExtRom... u cld always ask him nicely for use of it, or r u looking forward to the coding?
My only other thought is the extra support burden a complex fake extrom scenario would generate, especially if ppl don't understand its purpose and stick stuff in that causes problems...
I hope this has made some sense - past my bedtime and I'm knackered LOL. Just my 2 cents, y'know?
Good work and all the best

JoelC said:
Hi Matt,
It does sound like the first option is the best - it's also the only way to get G4 compatibility. I think your idea to write a VB app is a good one - let the user choose which CABs to install to ExtRom, but I think u need to be very clear what you want to achieve. As this `ExtRom` is not actually in the proper extended Rom, but just a folder under Windows, you gain nothing really by installing programs from here, best just keeping it for operator specific settings and such.
The other issue with extended Rom installations, of any type, is that the config file must run to completion. if you put in cab files that require user input, the install will fail (at least from a proper extRom, maybe ok in this scenario, I don't know); likewise cabs that require or initiate a soft reset will cause an ExtRom install to crash. So, this sorts of limits what cabs can be used. mine puts in personal reg settings; no operator settings as I use wifi not gprs or mms.
Also - and I hope I'm not out of line here, or misunderstanding you - Faria has something that does exactly what u need in his fake ExtRom... u cld always ask him nicely for use of it, or r u looking forward to the coding?
My only other thought is the extra support burden a complex fake extrom scenario would generate, especially if ppl don't understand its purpose and stick stuff in that causes problems...
I hope this has made some sense - past my bedtime and I'm knackered LOL. Just my 2 cents, y'know?
Good work and all the best
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That's really good info, because I'm climbing the learning curve as fast as I can here to get a good grasp on what the extended rom is, as well as how to use it. I appreciate the conditional warnings... better to know ahead of time than find out following a problem.
I'd rather use the true extended rom (as I understand it anyway), so I don't loose any additional space for the BuildOS programs. That is, assuming the extended rom is a seperate memory location than the base...
In another thread, someone is going to post that tool. I'm really interested in how it works.
If I can get all the concepts together, I hope to get a solid tool that will improve functionality in the ROM, without adding complexity or trouble... and I greatly appreciate the help!

Interesting thread...guys, you just gave me some new ideas.
Before that...there's one thing that's bothering me...
Can we use ExtendedRom on a G4 or not...lol I thought not, until me an Boto made a clean one from a G4 ExtRom and when Boto flashed it it worked , and he has a G4. Why we always say that we don't use an Extended Rom for G4 users ?
Normaly, a G4 should/would brick when flashing IPL/SPL not Extended Rom, am I right ?
We are shrinking the OS space to integrate features of the ExtendedRom in order to all people use it but is it that true ?
Ok, now back to my idea .. I want that in my next rom to include an extended rom, of course and make it that way so when you first start your PDA, it will act like when installing windows on the PC , asking you which apps or what options you want to use. I think i can manage to do that...still the question remains ...will G4 users be able to use it ?

Sorry for the delay writing back... I've been over in the G4 subforum trying to find out if they can flash Extended Rom. Some ppl have reported success using Faria's tutorial. Hopefully this is the case - what u said about IPL/SPL flashing is right, this seems to be a real problem, but if u can flash a radio-only Rom, why not Extended Rom?
What did u and Boto flash onto his G4? Blank Extrom or a cooked one?
Perhaps what we need is a guinea pig to try this out for us...!

JoelC said:
Sorry for the delay writing back... I've been over in the G4 subforum trying to find out if they can flash Extended Rom. Some ppl have reported success using Faria's tutorial. Hopefully this is the case - what u said about IPL/SPL flashing is right, this seems to be a real problem, but if u can flash a radio-only Rom, why not Extended Rom?
What did u and Boto flash onto his G4? Blank Extrom or a cooked one?
Perhaps what we need is a guinea pig to try this out for us...!
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I took the Ext Rom from the Wizard Love Rom and i edited the config.txt and deleted cabs ...that's it

Well, if it flashed OK... sounds like it might be usable after all But tell me, is Boto's G4 CID locked or unlocked? It's all very uncertain, but some of the G4 posts lead me to believe this may make a difference

ADB100 said:
Slightly off topic but does anyone have a .CAB for TomTom6 (or know how to edit/make one) that doesn't require user input during the installation?
I am not looking for a hacked version of TomTom, just how to prevent it asking me where to install. .CABs that run from the Extended ROM can't ask for user input or it will crash the extended ROM installation as we know; I just don't know how to edit the ttn.cab to stop it asking.
Thanks
Andy
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All I did for TomTom is install as normal and then copy the Navigator directory and My Documents\TomTomto my storage card where the maps, postcodes etc. are located. After any ROM upgrade all I need to do is create a shortcut in the start menu pointing at \Storage Card\Navigator\TomTom Navigator.exe No user input needed other than to pair the bluetooth gps and define a serial port.Hope this helps, it has worked for me after every change in ROM which has been quite a lot recently.

wizzzard said:
All I did for TomTom is install as normal and then copy the Navigator directory and My Documents\TomTomto my storage card where the maps, postcodes etc. are located. After any ROM upgrade all I need to do is create a shortcut in the start menu pointing at \Storage Card\Navigator\TomTom Navigator.exe No user input needed other than to pair the bluetooth gps and define a serial port.Hope this helps, it has worked for me after every change in ROM which has been quite a lot recently.
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Thanks for that but it isn't what I was really after.... I am just trying to automate everything. I have flashed my ROM that many times recently and going through the install of TomTom each time is a bit of a pain. I have got a couple of .CABs in the Extended ROM OK and these work fine, I just thought it would be nice if I could get TomTom in there as well.
Andy

I didn't want this to turn into a "how-to" thread, but I'm still scratching for hard info on the extended rom, and as many questions out there, it might be a good one to clarify some details...
As I understand it now, there's two forms of "extended ROM":
1. The true extended rom "similar to the radio ROM"
There is some "trigger" that runs the contents of the extended rom, such as AutoRun.exe?
2. The 'psuedo' extended rom that is basically a post install script to run cabs.
The contents of the folder under windows are run from a trigger that resides in the startup folder - similar to a runonce in Windows on first boot?
Does this sound close?
Also, where does the 'true' extended rom reside? Does it use the portion of memory reserved for the OS, or is there another portion just for it? (so if by adding applications to the extended rom, your available storage memory will remain unchanged - less the installed application?)
I'm presuming then by the 'psuedo' extended rom, that it does consume ROM space, but simplifies post-flash cab installations - assuming you follow the rules...
From what I see, by using the 'psuedo' ER, you waste space by keeping the installation files in addition to the installed application files.
If I'm wasting space and time by asking these questions and you know of a good extended rom tutorial, please direct me to it. I have spend some time tonight searching, but a definitive guide still eludes me... Thanks!

Sorry, coming into this thread late, but you have seen this thread, right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=968417
While it may not directly answer some of the questions, the tools and info in the tutorial may shed some light on this subject (or give you a direction to start digging further).

mfrazzz said:
Sorry, coming into this thread late, but you have seen this thread, right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=968417
While it may not directly answer some of the questions, the tools and info in the tutorial may shed some light on this subject (or give you a direction to start digging further).
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OMG, I'm getting senile... I came across this months ago, but at that point didn't know what I was looking at... and didn't see it just now in any stickies... thanks man.

mattk_r said:
OMG, I'm getting senile... I came across this months ago, but at that point didn't know what I was looking at... and didn't see it just now in any stickies... thanks man.
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Yeah, never figured out why that one was never made a sticky. I just know to go look at Faria's sig and it (and a few other good links) are in there

v2.0 Integrating Touch Files into 318 Kitchen [kitchen updated 7/9/07 @ 21:37 PST]

I need some help debugging the kitchen with the touchflo files.
For those who are sent the new kitchen; as you test and find solutions, please post what you did.
I wanted a sperate thread for just these specific objecives.
Here is the objectives:
To retain the ability to build a ROM with or without TouchFlo
To have only ONE seperate camera package that will work in any configuration
To allow portions of the touch software to work seperately should TouchFlo not be installed
I know there are other threads dedicated to debugging the touch software, however this is targeted at just the kitchen integration.
Current issues (v2):
Streaming Media isn't showing up in Programs, won't open.
Speed Dial hasn't been confirmed working or not.
No images for Beam - still need pictures!!!
Windows Live won't connect. Cab fixes issue. Need to find missing entries
Black Keyboard doesn't show numbers across top row. Need to find setting.
The power button will put phone into "standby" mode (basically screen and Wifi off), but won't power down.

318
I'll be glad to test. I was working on a 318 Kitchen but didn't get very far.

Too many Duplicate files.
Going back to work on my own kitchen I was much further along than what you have here.
My suggestions:
1) You should at start by deleting duplicate files. I can build a rom and flash it with my kitchen, I can't build with yours w/o getting one dup file error after another.
Please update, I will try to devote some time to your kitchen.
Thanks

NP. I'll update shortly.

My Files
I deleted dup files in my kitchen but I think I deleted one to many, now I can build, and I can flash using shelltool but it gets stuck at splash screen. Damm where did I go wrong??? I feel like a dumbass!

Hopefully this one will work a bit better. another 30 mintues till it's up.
The boot issue is probably related to the files in the OEMAPPS folder. There are some dll's in there that I found are super sensitive to this build - too bad I wasn't more careful in documenting what they were.

Documenting.
Started documenting now! Too much going on now not to, especially after my last mistake.

Test
So have you actualy built and started testing a rom with your kitchen?

I've been doing that for days... but I've tried a number of different combinations and this one seems most promising - though by no means is it ready. 1413 has by far been the easiest, but I still believe the 318 is the best choice.
I'm gonna be out until Monday night, so this is my last attempt for a few days

I have 318 with touchflo working.
Keep the original OEMAPPS im afraid, literally just the touchflo components (Audiomanager,etc) and then use recmod on touch.dll and throw it in OEMDRIVERS.
Ive just finished my refined version of the DOPOD touch rom, very well tweaked, it is as close to OEMWizard as it will ever get.
Going to give that a test burn tonight hopefully.
I will post my OEM folder for 318 if you need it.

Whiterat said:
I have 318 with touchflo working.
Keep the original OEMAPPS im afraid, literally just the touchflo components (Audiomanager,etc) and then use recmod on touch.dll and throw it in OEMDRIVERS.
Ive just finished my refined version of the DOPOD touch rom, very well tweaked, it is as close to OEMWizard as it will ever get.
Going to give that a test burn tonight hopefully.
I will post my OEM folder for 318 if you need it.
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If you could, it would be much appreciated. Anything to help get closer to a fully functioning setup

Ok, so i tested the oem folder from the reTouched Beta thing. I included everything in there but my problem is that TouchFLO does not function the way it is supposed to. With what you guys are doing, have you verified that TouchFLO even operates correctly?

I thnk the touch flo isn't all its cracked up to be..I ran the reTouch wasn't a fan..its not as fast as any rom..only thing I like is the dialer and the cube

I actually have a good feeling about it. I ran the french rom for a couple days - and other than not knowing most of what it said (glad I know the OS and took 2 years of french in high school) I was very pleased with the performance. Specifically the speed at which the screen "rotated", responsiveness, and how quickly the contacts scrolled on the screen was impressive. Enough to keep me interested well into the night

so matt, think you can make a cab from it? the cube that is lol.

Here you go:
http://rapidshare.com/files/40068930/OEM.rar
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Works perfectly but does need some cleaning up to fit your needs (Whiterat and OEMOPERATORS folders)

Whiterat said:
Here you go:
Works perfectly but does need some cleaning up to fit your needs (Whiterat and OEMOPERATORS folders)
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So if what you are saying is true I should be able to create cabs from the correct?

AFAIK It wont be possible due to the touch driver not being replacable, you might be able to rename touch.dll and then update the registry entry.

cleaning up
Whiterat said:
Here you go:
Works perfectly but does need some cleaning up to fit your needs (Whiterat and OEMOPERATORS folders)
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Hello, can i just copy this oem-folder to the kitchen and then remove the whiterat-folder. Which folders do i also need to delete to flash the rom?!

hanzieman said:
Hello, can i just copy this oem-folder to the kitchen and then remove the whiterat-folder. Which folders do i also need to delete to flash the rom?!
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For what I see whiterat folder are some reg tweaks that you'll probably use anyways, and as far as folders to remove it might be less of a hassle to simply add the packages that you use that are not there.

Package installer for Kaiser

Hi everyone,
Does anybody know of a package installer for cabs, so that one could add or remove the cabs that wants installed as a package, all at once? An equivalent of ghost installer for windows, or I might be completely off here. That's a noob for you.
Thanks.

adem_7 said:
Hi everyone,
Does anybody know of a package installer for cabs, so that one could add or remove the cabs that wants installed as a package, all at once? An equivalent of ghost installer for windows, or I might be completely off here. That's a noob for you.
Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337

Until DoeDoe puts out that great CE interface I saw in Sleuth's thread, I'm continuing to use Tier Autoinstall. You can find my custom cab and some more info here

_Alex_ said:
Until DoeDoe puts out that great CE interface I saw in Sleuth's thread, I'm continuing to use Tier Autoinstall. You can find my custom cab and some more info here
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I agree that Tier Autoinstall is great app for installing multiple apps / programs without the need of flashing. I guess I did point him in the wrong direction. Good looking out Alex.

AllTheWay said:
I agree that Tier Autoinstall is great app for installing multiple apps / programs without the need of flashing. I guess I did point him in the wrong direction. Good looking out Alex.
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I'm pretty sure that someone could put SDAutorun.exe into a cab too and install it, so it can be run via a program link.
I'm just not crazy about having to run a separate config app on my PC so I can install software on my phone or having to manually edit a text file to add/remove cabs from an autoinstaller.
I'm holding out for that preview DoeDoe showed in one of Sleuth's UC threads. From what's been shown, that would be much better than Tier Autoinstall...

_Alex_ said:
I'm pretty sure that someone could put SDAutorun.exe into a cab too and install it, so it can be run via a program link.
I'm just not crazy about having to run a separate config app on my PC so I can install software on my phone or having to manually edit a text file to add/remove cabs.
I'm holding out for that preview DoeDoe showed in one of Sleuth's threads. From what's been shown, that would be much better than Tier Autoinstall...
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I agree. I was looking at the post by DoeDoe and that looks very impressive. It is quite tiresome editing a .txt file.

AllTheWay said:
I agree. I was looking at the post by DoeDoe and that looks very impressive. It is quite tiresome editing a .txt file.
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Yeah I agree too (its a one time hustle though) , but it serves the purpose for now, as long as you could get rid of all the additional spaces created with the application "tabs after each entry" .

I have not seen the DoeDoe GUI yet, but it would also be nice (if we are making a Christmas list ) to be able to install apps on the Storage Card as well. I would say I install 30-50% of my apps on the ole SD Card.

Decompile ROM to find out what's inside?

Some ROM chefs post a list of what they have cooked into their roms, some don't. But if I like a certain application/software cooked in and I don't know the name, like for example a battery meter that looks cool, how do I find out what it's called to get a cab of it on my own? This brings me to a point, is there a way to decompile a ROM and get a list of pre-installed/cooked applications, and then from there either find a cab for that particular application or make your own from the ROM you just decompiled? Just wondering, sorry if this has been posted already. Thanks.

Reverse engineering is what we do here in XDA LOL. Anyhow, if you like something, go to explorer and look for file name u think it might be! Its a WAG, but it works, and then go to the link in my sign and search! Good luck.

Yeah well I tried searching for it via explorer, no luck finding it lol. Thanks however. Plus I would want the version number on the app too. Is it possible to decompile a rom and get a list of installed apps? Like the chefs post when they release?

Short answer is yes, as a ROM contains a collection of various packages. Grab any one of the kitchens and give it whirl.

What happens if the rom I want to decompile doesn't have its kitchen released?

Use dumprom, however I think youre best shot is to use the ROM tread and ask there.

kickindrummerkid said:
What happens if the rom I want to decompile doesn't have its kitchen released?
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No worries, most any kitchen can dump a ROM. ImgfsTools is actually what you seek, but the kitchens paint a bigger picture if you're not already familiar with the cooking process.

Ok so I dumped the rom however, how do I tell out of all the dll's and exe's in "dump_imgfs" folder which one is the battery icon OEM. Also, how do I make a cab out of it?

There isn't going to be a big, flashy "This is the battery monitory" sign.
Your first step would be to guess, based on the names of the files. Something that includes "Bat" and "Mon" is a great candidate. Put your guesses in google and see what you find.
If that doesn't work, you're gonna have to guess based on some other criteria. For example, MS will often set the operating system DLLs to the same date. If that date was preserved when the ROM was cooked, you can eliminate all the OS ones and google the rest.
Now, there's 2 methods that may be a lot easier and get you a faster response:
1. PM/email the author of the ROM and ask. Be polite and thankful, and let them know you appreciate their work.
2. Google "Windows CE Battery Monitor" and look through the results.

I found out by looking up an OEM package for another battery and found out the registry settings for it and went to my registry on my ROM and found out what DLL it pointed to. Then I created a CAB and flashed a new ROM and then installed the CAB and it worked . However, is there any way to edit the DLL and change how it looks? I tried hex editing but that's no luck for a picture.

kickindrummerkid said:
Ok so I dumped the rom however, how do I tell out of all the dll's and exe's in "dump_imgfs" folder which one is the battery icon OEM. Also, how do I make a cab out of it?
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Now that you have figured out the details. Can you please write step-by-step procedure how new ones in this arena can accomplish this?