Hello
I was wondering if any operator was offering any of the HTC devices running an operating system other than windows? or does HTC have a deal with microsoft to supply all its devices with windows to operators ?(would the operators be termed as resellers in this case?)
Re: doesany operator offer HTCdevice runnin OS other than wi
xda_guy said:
Hello
I was wondering if any operator was offering any of the HTC devices running an operating system other than windows? or does HTC have a deal with microsoft to supply all its devices with windows to operators ?(would the operators be termed as resellers in this case?)
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Palm Treo devices prior to the 700 are HTC-made and run palm O.S.
Richard
thanks for the reply
i was wondering who determines which operating system to use with the device, would it be the operators/OEM or would it be the manufacturer(HTC)
The Palm devices were the only non Windows Mobile devices HTC made, and these were jointly designed with Palm.
In the case of the Palm Windows Mobile devices, these are slightly different hardware specs (such as screen res being the most obvious) as there are differences between the two that require some different hardware.
There is not an option by an operator for instance, to choose the HTC Wizard, running PalmOS or Linux. It would have to be a new design, specifically for the different OS.
thanks for the reply
so in the case of the universal the design has entirely been done by HTC, which signifies a leap in HTC's capabilities from simply manufacturing devices(did it do that before its venture with palm) to designing & manufacturing devices for OEM's to selling its own brand
xda_guy said:
thanks for the reply
so in the case of the universal the design has entirely been done by HTC, which signifies a leap in HTC's capabilities from simply manufacturing devices(did it do that before its venture with palm) to designing & manufacturing devices for OEM's to selling its own brand
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HTC has been an ODM since it's inception - the Universal didn't 'signify a leap' in the way you describe. It wholly ownes Qtek and it's chairwomen owned Dopod until the sale / reversal into HTC this year so the only recent change is the emergence of HTC as a brand in it's own right.
Maybe read their various websites for more info or use google?....and don't make statements you can't backup.
Richard
thanks for the reply fluffcat
oops, i did not mean to make any statements, i should have asked the question.
is the UNiversal an ODM or an OEM, since in my opinion, an OEM would have meant "synchronising" the requirements of four operators
O2, t-mobile, orange and some others to come up with the design.
can you recommend a website which would describe the ODM/OEM process that HTC has followed
AlanJC said:
There is not an option by an operator for instance, to choose the HTC Wizard, running PalmOS or Linux. It would have to be a new design, specifically for the different OS.
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HP have provided a linux image under the developer program for iPaq 3XXX devices.
Richard
xda_guy said:
thanks for the reply fluffcat
oops, i did not mean to make any statements, i should have asked the question.
is the UNiversal an ODM or an OEM, since in my opinion, an OEM would have meant "synchronising" the requirements of four operators
O2, t-mobile, orange and some others to come up with the design.
can you recommend a website which would describe the ODM/OEM process that HTC has followed
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HTC are ODM of the Universal. It is sold under *many* names, including Grundig, in various markets - and to think that the 4 main UK networks drive the design process for a worldwide release candidate is incorrect.
They can specify colour, keymap layout, and in the case of some devices camera options, and they decide which apps to include ( for example Voda omits Pocket MSN from some of it's recent badged devices ) and I'm sure in the case or Orange or o2 - the original launch partners for XDA PPC and SPV smartphone respectively, they can 'suggest' things but the design is entirely down to HTC - despite what Jim 'I designed the XDA all by myself' Morrison of i-mate claims!
You won't find any HTC design process on the web. If you approach them with a view to manufacture 10,000 units of a device they may send you some info, but a business studies website may be more use.
Richard
fluffcat1 said:
AlanJC said:
There is not an option by an operator for instance, to choose the HTC Wizard, running PalmOS or Linux. It would have to be a new design, specifically for the different OS.
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HP have provided a linux image under the developer program for iPaq 3XXX devices.
Richard
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It was also a retro fit software build by HP and the open source community, it is not one of the phone devices customised for use by multiple operators, and HP specify design constraints on HTC that operators do not
AlanJC said:
It was also a retro fit software build by HP and the open source community, it is not one of the phone devices customised for use by multiple operators, and HP specify design constraints on HTC that operators do not
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Yes, but unlike your previous statement it did not nessecitate " a new design, specifically for the different OS."
The original question was not specific about phone enabled devices, it was asking about HTC devices.
And linux is always going to be open source....
Richard
OK, you can split hairs if you like, after all, this is THE INTERNET
But HTC are not putting Linux on, HP are, just like anyone is free to try any of the emerging Linux distros on their PPC.
No, these do not require different hardware internally, but as for HTC themselves, they would do, as it would mean in the instance of Palm/Windows different resolution displays, and in the instance of any OS, different function/mode keys as Linux/Palm users would not have the Windows start key, Internet Explorer E, and so on.
Some changes would be minor, like different buttons, but either way, they would require specific differences in the hardware build of the device.
And I assumed since the original question stated operators, we were talking about operators, not HP, who aren't operators which kind of limits this thread to the mobile phone devices.
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But HTC are not putting Linux on, HP are, just like anyone is free to try any of the emerging Linux distros on their PPC.
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My development kit came with a 3660 running linux - it didn't magically install itself and I didn't flash it...and it came from HTC via Foxconn not HP.
Richard
OK, my apologies, but I still hardly think we can count a 3660, a very old device, retrofit with an OS from HP, that isn't a phone, isn't really available through normal retail channels as a consumer device, and isn't supported by HTC as it is a device specific to HP, with an OS designed within the OS community by HP, and is solely an HP venture.
I might be wrong, but we are talking about consumer PDA phone devices through operator channels.
I could go on about the fact the Himalaya or the Blue Angel were available with WM2003, WM2003SE, or WM5, but as the choice was only available as a developer kit, it is irrelevant, and it's not really an option.
I didn't see this reported on xda-developers and somehow missed this in the financial press but it sure looks like good news for all of us since HTC will have a much larger user-base and therefore find it easier to offer upgrades.
The earlier Dopod WM6 upgrade announcement didn't include the Herald but the HTC announcement did so I'm sure we can look forward to a WM6 upgrade for the Dopod C800.
Here's the link to the full news item on the HTC site:
HTC Signs Acquisition Agreement with Dopod International
http://www.htc.com/press_room/03-press-070508.htm
Holy crap! I thought HTC had a policy of sticking to making phones and letting other brand names brand and distribute? This is good news indeed.
Hi! Friends,
I wanna know where can I know the codenames of the phones. I wanna know the codenames of Imate Jama & Samsung i710.
Thanx.
imate dont get phones from htc anymore i believe and nor do i think the samsung are htc as they have a phone manufactoring devision too
one way you can test it is google for the name and add htc in the end that should give you pages where the name and htc is both present
Samsung, I think alread have a few of there own smart phones out. Is'nt HTC japeness and Samsung is Koren?
both korean
isn't it HTC is a Taiwanese Company?
HTC is a Taiwanese company. Samsung manufactures all their phones themselves. imate now has contracts with other ODM manufactures than HTC.
Is searching so hard? Most of them are in wiki and if not, than read here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Tech_Computer
Our company uses HTC X7510 in a number of our products (www.loadct.com). I am concerned about current availability. Does anyone know if the PPC is still being manufactured by HTC and, if not, what the current inventory is like? Do I need to start stockpiling in my inventory?
I really doubt it being sold, its so old.
HTC x7510 is out of catalog.
not sure it is out of catalogue - it is still on the UK HTC website
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/advantage/overview.html
plus if you look at the various etailers, you will see it being sold.
rjstep3
According to today's news, Palm is about to be auctioned off and HTC is highly likely to pick them up. I think they're doing it for the patent portfolio. Then, they will finally be able to fend off Apple or countersue them to oblivion.
Editorial here: Palm, Inc Now For Sale. Will HTC Buy Palm For Patents, To Port Pre To Android, Or Both?
What do you guys think? Doesn't it make total sense for HTC to buy Palm?
WebOS in the Hands of HTC
a SuperSonic, HD2, HD3, WebOS running Flagship
the world will not be able to handle such destruction
the Ultimate Dream is starting to take shape.
Who cares about the patents when one of the best Mobile OS:s is up for sale? WebOS + HD2/3 = drools. Really hope lenovo won't buy them.
Toss3 said:
Who cares about the patents when one of the best Mobile OS:s is up for sale? WebOS + HD2/3 = drools. Really hope lenovo won't buy them.
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Forget webOS; no benefit for HTC here. WM 6.1 is better for business use.
I personally think Huawei will go for them. I know from insiders there that they want to do mobile phones for some time as to better leverage their carrier relations...