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SOLVED - I ended up flashing to the 1.64.08.21 Radio, then Dutty's Latest. Now GPS works. WEIRD!!!!
Hello,
Back story: I'm running Q-Mobile 1.2, all is well, GPS works fine because I used it all the time. Then I had family in town, took some photos using the GPS photo option, didn't work. I filled it away under the curious and just got around to testing.
GPS Test now can't find my device, keeps reading "Searching for GPS Device", HTC GPS Testing tool just stares blankly at me like I have the answers.
Live search GPS doesn't work.
Google Maps GPS doesn't work.
What I've done to try and fix:
I reflashed the 1.27.14.09 radio... didn't change anything.
I reflashed the entire Q-Mobile Rom... didn't change anything.
I tried Dutty's new WM 6.1 Rom... didn't change anything.
I tried Alex's ROM... didn't change anything.
Tried the "new" AT&T Rom from the HTC site... didn't change anything.
I'm back to Q-Mobile, still doesn't work.
There is no reason why the GPS should not be working, the phone hasn't been physically damaged in anyway, everything else works fine.
I'm at my wits end, I need some outside help/guidance. Can ANYONE please help? Everything I've searched for and come up with so far hasn't worked.
As always, any help is GREATLY appreciated!!!
thats funny, because my GPS has been randomly working and not working these past few days....2 days ago it wouldnt pick up a signal at all, yesterday very strong signals, today, dead again......not sure whats wrong...
This is strange.... because a friend just lost his GPS also. He's using a 6.0 based ROM with various radios tested.
He's using a Tilt varient.
Could this be some sort of AT&T issue?
(I run the same ROM as him -I flashed it myself- and am also on AT&T with no problems.... yet)
GPS seems to be location dependent.
But here's my thought : if you want to use WM 6.0 then flash to Radio 1.27.
For WM 6.1 then flash to Radio 1.58.
Don't forget to change the Quick GPS Region in registry & then run it.
Hope that can help.
Dihon said:
GPS seems to be location dependent.
But here's my thought : if you want to use WM 6.0 then flash to Radio 1.27.
For WM 6.1 then flash to Radio 1.58.
Don't forget to change the Quick GPS Region in registry & then run it.
Hope that can help.
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my region is set to US in the registry.....not sure that its the problem, because it worked perfectly fine w/ these settings before...
Yeah, my GPS as well. At first i worked perfectly. I used Google map and locate me, I show the exact position where I was. Then yesterday and today, my point have been moved further where I'm. And then I tried TOMTOM, and the performance is kinda slowe than before.
I'm using Radio 1.64.08.21, and UDK-7 R2
okay so i just went out to test it again, and ran GPS tool at 4800. I let it go for 2-3 minutes and eventually, it found a fix on about 12 satallites. after that, tom tom locked my location really fast, like a charm.....
give that a try.....if you just flashed, initial gps fix might take some time...
Alright, I'm going to try Dutty's latest again, only this time w/ the 1.64.08.21 radio... I'll see if that matters. I'll post when done.
UPDATE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365058
I installed the ROM on this thread as a test. ROM sucks bizzalls, but GPS Test if finally working! I'm going to flash Dutty's latest overtop, it should keep the radio but put his ROM down. More to follow.
Dihon said:
GPS seems to be location dependent.
But here's my thought : if you want to use WM 6.0 then flash to Radio 1.27.
For WM 6.1 then flash to Radio 1.58.
Don't forget to change the Quick GPS Region in registry & then run it.
Hope that can help.
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Please post the registry string that changes the demobraphics to the US. Thanks.
Do we have a listing of these location codes as the US is a big place and it might have more than 1 code depending on location.
Can people post what they have in the registry of:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\QuickGPS]
The value of :
"region"="--"
I tried GB in mine (United kingdom) as another user (Dutch had reported using NL in theirs and GB is our equivalent. It definately seemed to lock faster.
I am using Dutty's latest rom and the region was Blank in after the flash, hard reset and setup.
Does the quick gps download different data depending on region or does it download all of them but start the search based on which should be the closest satellites based on the location setting in the registry. I presume once it has gained its locks it remembers for next time. (I think this remembered data is valid for 4 hours).
There are only about 28 satellites in total and up to a maximum of eight to eleven depending on time a(s the satellites are not geostationary) being visible at one time
Regards
Chapelhill
I used Dutty's WM6.1, ran QuickGPS then got a fix (took very long the first time) ... now my registry says Region=US
I noticed that there is another key that might be of interest:
curRegion = 0 (00000000)
Could this be current Region?
I've changed the region in the registry from "--" to "SE" (Sweden), but the string won't stay put. After a reboot and running QuickGPS, it goes back to "--". I've tried waiting a couple of hours after editing and holding the power button to shut down, but it doesn't help. I made a little MortScript and added it to startup:
Code:
While (1)
WaitFor ("QuickGPS", -1)
If NOT regKeyEqualsString ("HKLM", "Software\HTC\QuickGPS\", "region", "SE")
RegWriteString ("HKLM", "Software\HTC\QuickGPS\", "region", "SE")
EndIf
Sleep (10000)
EndWhile
This works and keeps the "SE"-setting, but having the script running constantly isn't exactly optimal as it uses processing power (around 4% currently) and thus adding to battery-drain. Anyone have any ideas on a different way of making the script, which is more effective/power-saving? Or is there an even better way to make the registry key stick?
I am having some GPS issues as well but not as bad as GPS not working. Two problems have been bugging me: Getting a slow GPS fix and my location seems offset. I am using CoPilot Live 7 for my navigation software. It shows me a little bit 'off' from my current location. I am using 1.58.26.20 radio. Should I change my radio? Do I have to change the radio first and then reflash Dutty again?
- TKN
coolVariable said:
I used Dutty's WM6.1, ran QuickGPS then got a fix (took very long the first time) ... now my registry says Region=US
I noticed that there is another key that might be of interest:
curRegion = 0 (00000000)
Could this be current Region?
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That's interesting, mine says US but "1" for the numeric one.
Hi guys,
I think the subject says it all...
I have a Diamond which suffers from serious GPS lag (not fix!). This means that when I'm driving, my car is always up to 50m ahead of what TomTom or IGO tells me that I am...
I'm thinking about changing my device as nobody seems to know the cause of this...
So, I wonder if Rapheal has the same issue or not...
HastaSSSS
Here's what i tested for you on the way to work...
Using TomTom6 (6.032), driving at 30mph, using the tip if the blue arrow as my position (same as i always used on TytnII) i would say my car was no more than 5m behind were i should be. No issue going down the right road or turn.
Same situation as johnk1973. No 50 meters lag, but aprox. 5 meters.
Same problem here on Raphael, TT7 is 50 meters behind. Will test it tonight if it also occurs with TT6.
Same here with tt7 and igo8....
Now this is going to get complicated....
I had Diamond before and NEVER experienced GPS lag.
I tried almost every official and cooked ROM and had no problems with GPS.
Recently I switched to Raphael....
And guess what... GPS lag !
I used my Diamond and Raphael in identical conditions, with the same app (iGO 8).
I'll try to test it more.
I'll post if I find anything useful to you.
Cheers,
Sh*t...that means Raphael is a "no go" for me...
Unless we solve the problem...whatever it might be...
Please keep on posting your findings about this issue...I like very much Diamond and Diamond Pro....but I'm not willing to have a device without 100% functionality...
HastaSSSS
I have a Touch Pro with iGo8 installed. I realised this "50m lag" on my business trip this Monday but I thought it was due to the speed of the car (I was driving very fast for the most of the time). Now I see the problem might be a little more complicated.
On the other hand the 50m is not so bad - I never had a wrong turn, the acoustic signalization of iGo8 is very good. Nevertheless, I would be glad if this could be fixed...
And another thing - I'm not sure if you are aware of the charging problem while using GPS. My Touch Pro actually stopped charging because of overheating and was running only on the battery. So be aware of this fact too.
But this is a different issue, I'm sure there is a thread for this.
I dont have the problem with TT6.
I second this issue, both with TT7 and IGO8 (haven't tried it with another one yet)
Guys I had GPS lag on TT7 when I fist used it (Only tried it for 5min) it was awful. Mainly everytime I turned a corner whilst driving.
Then I did the following changes:
\start\settings\system\external GPS -> Set GPS Program port COM4; Hardware NONE; Access Manage GPS automatically.
Hit ok, wait 10 secs, switch off the device and then soft reset.
Now go to TT7 change the GPS prefences, to use bluetooth device and selected COM4.
No my GPS is perfect now, no problems at all. Have tried it with two different ROMs and no problems.
I have TT7 installed on the main memory and the maps on an Sandisk 8GB Class 4 SDHC card.
Radio ROM is 1.02.25.19 if that helps? and AGPS is turned on a up-to-date.
BTW it was exactly the same when using google maps.
Did you also try it by just setting tomtom gps to bluetooth? I'll give that a shot anyway before going into the register... tnx for the tip
Please keep in mind that you'll get an update of your past position only once per second. This means: The faster your velocity the more inexact the position will be, because the distance you'll pass in this second becomes longer and longer:
@30kmph: ~8m
@50kmph: ~14m
@80kmph: ~22m
@100kmph: ~27m
@130kmph: ~36m
Additionally there is the inaccuracy which comes with GPS: In good times you may have ~10m divergence on average. But with weaker signal (which one may have driving in a city) it will become even more. So keep in mind that GPS will tell you, where you've been one second ago (plus the divergence).
By the time I get my Diamond Pro, I'll collate this at the same time with my X500, which has a build in Sirf3 receiver.
I am having a slightly different issue with my TP using iGuidance 4. Although the unit aquires a signal faster than any other device I have used in the past, it seems to lag or freeze as I drive. It will not update the time, speed or position unless I press a button or something on the screen. There is another thread on XDA (I think in the Diamond or Kaiser sections) that claims to have solved this issue, but the fix doesn't work on my Touch Pro (in fact it completely freezes my iGuidance requiring a soft reset).
Hi,
I'm using Ndrive and TomTom 7.
on NDrive I don't have any problem, it's fast.
on TomTom is slow..
I thing the problem is on TomTom using this GPS of Raphael.
WizP said:
Guys I had GPS lag on TT7 when I fist used it (Only tried it for 5min) it was awful. Mainly everytime I turned a corner whilst driving.
Then I did the following changes:
\start\settings\system\external GPS -> Set GPS Program port COM4; Hardware NONE; Access Manage GPS automatically.
Hit ok, wait 10 secs, switch off the device and then soft reset.
Now go to TT7 change the GPS prefences, to use bluetooth device and selected COM4.
No my GPS is perfect now, no problems at all. Have tried it with two different ROMs and no problems.
I have TT7 installed on the main memory and the maps on an Sandisk 8GB Class 4 SDHC card.
Radio ROM is 1.02.25.19 if that helps? and AGPS is turned on a up-to-date.
BTW it was exactly the same when using google maps.
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these settings are the settings that are preset. Hence nothing changed. the lag on the diamond is bad but this is awful.
WizP said:
Guys I had GPS lag on TT7 when I fist used it (Only tried it for 5min) it was awful. Mainly everytime I turned a corner whilst driving.
Then I did the following changes:
\start\settings\system\external GPS -> Set GPS Program port COM4; Hardware NONE; Access Manage GPS automatically.
Hit ok, wait 10 secs, switch off the device and then soft reset.
Now go to TT7 change the GPS prefences, to use bluetooth device and selected COM4.
No my GPS is perfect now, no problems at all. Have tried it with two different ROMs and no problems.
I have TT7 installed on the main memory and the maps on an Sandisk 8GB Class 4 SDHC card.
Radio ROM is 1.02.25.19 if that helps? and AGPS is turned on a up-to-date.
BTW it was exactly the same when using google maps.
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these settings are the settings that are preset. Hence nothing changed. the lag on the diamond is bad but this is awful.
Using Igo8 very intensively with my TP, no lag at all. Compared it this morning with my VW passat stock nav system, and again, i notice no lag.
I have the settings in the posts above, and have very little lag. I am using QuickGPS instead of AGPS, but all else is the same. My main probklem is how long it takes to get a lock (much longer than on my old Kaiser), but since installing DCS's ROM and doing a hard reset immediately after that does seem to have improved - I often get a lock from cold within a minute now..
Rowan
I believe the reason that some people are getting horrible GPS lag while others get nothing has to do with the Radio ROM versions that came installed with the device. Most custom ROMS don't update the Radio ROM. It's 12am and I'm posting this from my TP, so I'll just tell you that the Radio thread is stickied in the Raphael ROM dev forum.
EDIT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439566
Hi,
I recently installed the new official HTC Firmware Upgrade on my Touch Pro.
ROM: 5.05.405.1 WWE
ROM Date: 01/22/09
Radio: 1.11.25.01
After installing, i cannot seem to get a GPS fix, have been trying for last 4 hours. I did all the usual, ran the Quick GPS etc. My external TomTom receiver works fine and TomTom then runs ok on the Touch Pro.
GPS set to COM4 as before
Has anyone else had any problems since upgrading to the new firmware?
Thanks
The fix problem might be temporary. Try again tomorrow at different position
Hi Darfri,
Funny enough, i tried this morning and got a fix in about 20 seconds! So could well have been just a temp thing.
I did uninstall GPSED in between, i'm sure that was not the contributing factor, will reinstall it and try the GPS again on the way home.
M
me too
did u mean the htc's website ROM upgrade?
i did it too, and my GPS is not running, i tried it saturday and did not get sucess, i am trying today again and the same problem is ocurring, i would need my GPS working, i use IGO8, the raphael locates the GPS signal, but on the map it doesnt work
does anybody know the soluction?
Yes, i do mean the HTC website ROM.
I tried again on the way back from work after reinstalling GPSED, it is still working. No idea why it refused on the Sunday.
Try obtaining a fix in an open area for a start, once it gets its first fix after the upgrade, subsequent ones should be easier.
basmareck said:
did u mean the htc's website ROM upgrade?
i did it too, and my GPS is not running, i tried it saturday and did not get sucess, i am trying today again and the same problem is ocurring, i would need my GPS working, i use IGO8, the raphael locates the GPS signal, but on the map it doesnt work
does anybody know the soluction?
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try to flash again just the RADIO
mgumbs said:
Yes, i do mean the HTC website ROM.
I tried again on the way back from work after reinstalling GPSED, it is still working. No idea why it refused on the Sunday.
Try obtaining a fix in an open area for a start, once it gets its first fix after the upgrade, subsequent ones should be easier.
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where did u get?
I have the same problem. Yesterday I flashed my Touch Pro with a new Radio and a new OS Rom (not the official one). I used the newest Radio Rom version from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2822877&postcount=2 (1.11.25.01)
Now I'm trying to get a GPS fix with Google Maps or HTC GPS Tool, but both does not work.
I hope anyone could help.
Thanks!
Greets
Stefan
basmareck said:
where did u get?
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Same problem here, flashed 5 days ago, intermitent gps signal (like a pulse fix / no fix) or none at all. Even try with different radios (Radio 1.02.25.32 / 1.02.25.28) and the baud rate to 57600 in my apps.
I can't be sure is due to new ROM because I flash it on my newer Fuze and never try GPS fix before. I have to say that I own a Touch pro almost a year ago and at the same time side by side get a fix in cold 10-30 seconds and warm 2-5 seconds (with a cooked ROM from "jespi2005" Radio 1.02.25.32)
Hi,
I think I have a solution.Download the HTC GPS Tool (e.g. from here http://rs276.rapidshare.com/files/84815853/Nadavi_HTC_GPS_TOOL.cab)
-Check if you have AGPS disabled (e.g. with Advanced Config)
-Update QuickGPS
-Install HTC GPS Tool
-Run HTC GPS Tool
-Check the Correct Com Port (Settings - > External GPS)
-Set Baudrate to 57600
-Press open
-Select Cold Start from the Dropdown list
-Mark the Repeat Selectbox
-Press Nav. Init.
-Now It can take 1 or 2 hours
-Check the status via the satelit tab
If nothing works, press Close, reset your PPC, select Clear Memory from the select box, press Nav. Init. and wait about 15 Minutes and reset your PPC again. Repeat the procedure above. You can also try the other options in the drop down box. I don't know the options I used anymore, but now it works.
My problem was, that I was to impatient and thought, that anything must be broken. So try this method and I hope it works.
I found this solution in the german forum www.ppc-welt.info (direct link for all german speaking people: http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=133565)
Greets
Stefan
Fully aware that there are lots of GPS issues around and that there is a well known bug to get a good fix on this phone.
However I am under the impression I have another issue.
I am using this:
[ROM][WWE][05-20-09][ShEp's Rom][WinMo 6.5][TF3D2 V1d][Build: 21222][Version: RC2][Kitchen: Ervius Visual bepe's]
Others report a working GPS on this rom.
My issue:
The system does not see the GPS device; on my last ROM it was working well.
I have the problem with TomTom, HTC GPS Tool, Google Maps and with GPS Test from Chartcross.
All the software I have is not able to find the GPS unit in the phone.
Set it to port: Com4 and baud rate 4800, but experimented with this as well.
The GPS fix cab is installed as well.
None of the software is able to get the UTC clock signal or any satellite... Simple message "No GPS device" is displayed most of the time. As this does not seem to be related to the software I use for navigation I am convinced that this is an OS/Rom/Radio related issue...
Rom: 5.10.161.1 WWE
Radio: 1.02.25.28
I had the phone looking for any satellite for more then 45 minutes, nothing, nada...
I love this phone and Rom... But this is frustrating, working on it for over 48 hours now, about to pull my hair (If I had any) .
Radio : 1.14.25.05
It is working now.. Strainge, the 'old' rom was working with WM 6.1..
Maybe 1.02.25.28 and WM6.5 somhow conflice....
However outdoor it still took me 21 minutes to get a fix..
But this is the all known issue I guess.
Now I can't send sms...
Time fro Radio : 1.11.25.01
Perfect...
SMS is working again...
And GPS takes about 5 min outdoor.
Hi,
HTC has released a new ROM for the Fuze.
Among other things, it contains an "A-GPS Update: Speeds up the time it takes the GPS to get a fix on your location", and "Quick GPS is still recommended for the optimal operation of GPS based applications and services".
Does anyone know whether it's feasible to implement only this part of the ROM in a Tilt?
My GPS reception is variable (using the internal GPS), no matter which ROM or radio I use (some are better, my current combination works best for me). The only way I obtai an extremely fast GPS fix is by using an external BT GPS (I purchased an GlobalTop G66 Plus, and I now obtain a fix within 10-15 seconds).
I have AGPS turned OFF because it doesn't work with IGO8 (had no problems at all with AGPS and IGO6).
I've tried every solution in the book and have carefully read all related threads here. None have worked for me.
So my question *only* refers to the suitability of implementing that portion of the Fuze new ROM.
Thanks.
I would think that you would be restricted by the hardware of the phone and not the software
Well, if you're referring to the incompatibility of IGO8 and AGPS, it's a given.