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Hey All-
I thought the issue with SD card would have been fixed with the T-mobile WM2003 ROM update (4.01.16). Although I am not sure if that is what did it. I did not have the problem until I updated ActiveSync (v3.7.1 - Build 4034) when it came out about a week ago. I have an ActiveSync backup file (backup.stg) from BEFORE I upgraded all of this (a different partnership as well). Is there a way to extract the data from that file to restore my SD card?
Many Thanks
Out of curiosity, what brand of SD card are you using? I'm using a Kingston 512 mB but have read on a few forums problems with the Kingston loosing content in the XDA II. I have not experienced the problem.
Ed
No this problem still persists, I've used a PNY,Sandisk & Panasonic SD card in my XDA I running WM2003 4.01.16 and it blows them all away. I've tried everything and all the ROM from's YORCH'S Kitchen. They obviously only tested the XDA ROM'[email protected] T-Mobile without any SD memory attached at all, and couldn't have cared for customer feedback. However, saying that it's suprising the amount of PDA users I know, whom don't have additional memory attached. I hope there's a resolution soon, in which ever form, upgrade, reg-keys anything to stop this annoyance.
Cheers.
I am using a San Disk 128Mb card. Any info on how to get into that Backup.stg file? Thanks
Yes, I do believe it is a bug that most bug testers missed to point out with the WM2003 4.01.16. I've encountered the same problem and lost all the files saved on my SD card (San Disk SD Card). The sad part about this bug is that your lost files are unrecoverable!
scottyjchef said:
I am using a San Disk 128Mb card. Any info on how to get into that Backup.stg file? Thanks
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Hey scottychef, for that just go do the following on your PC:
First you need to go to "My Computer" in flile explorer then you select Tools menu and then "Fonder Options" and under the "View" tab check "Show Hidden Files and Folders" and then find the following folder:
C:\Documents and Settings\"YourUserName"\Application Data\Microsoft\ActiveSync\Profiles\"YourOldProfile"
And copy the .bak file into your current profile directory.
Best Regards,
Rayan
Some people came to the conclusion that the sd card erasure was something to do with the Today configuration and that when they chose the default screen etc the problem went away.
After going around the bend with my SD Card being erased/corrupted on nearly daily basis, and being fortunate enough to have friends with both XDA I’s & II’s running both PPC 2002 & 2003 I thought I’d set out and scour the registry to see if anything was missing that could be causing the problem, and I instantly noticed a one thing. On my version of 2003 (4.01.16 T-mobile) there is no key referring to FAT file system for the SD Card, which both the XDA I (PPC 2002-O2) & XDA II (PPC 2003-O2) have.
Also the FATFS.DLL which exists under the \Windows folder (Hidden of course) on both PPC2002(O2) & PPC2003(O2) is not present on the T-Mobile (4.01.16) ROM, However there is a FATFSD.DLL referenced in \HKLM\System\StorageManager\FATFS but not linked to the Storage Card
So I've simply made substitute keys from the ones missing.
Since I’ve entered the following Keys, I’ve nearly gone a week without a single hiccup. Now it may be too early to tell, but if a few of you guys with this problem should try it and it works for you, then problem solved.
Here’s what to do.
Install the PMH Registry Editor (freeware) to your XDA then navigate to
\\HKLM\Drivers\PCMCIA\SDCard
Add the following REG_SZ key:
Value name: FSD
Value data: FATFSD.DLL
Also, I’m not quite sure if the next key adds any performance/stability but was present on the XDA II and not the XDA I, but I added it anyway
Add the following REG_DWORD key:
Value name: BlockTransferSize
Value data: 64
Could be a combination of either key or one or the other, or neither, but I haven’t the time to try each permutation. Or maybe I've just been lucky this week and It'll get wiped over the weekend, I'll keep you posted.
Now reset the device and good luck, plus please post your findings as I could be barking completely up the wrong tree!!
It happened to me also!! I've bought a new MMC card, 256 MB,, and 3 days ago, I woke up & found my card wiped out!
I've used a software called Easy Recovery Pro, and I've recovered all my lost file on the card
I used a digital camera to create a new drive ( I: ) for the card, so that I can recover the files!! Is there any other mean to map the MMC or SD card to a drive??
anyway, I just read some notes on this forum, and I've found that its a bug in windows 2003, but to solve the problem, always format your card using FAT32, and before formating it, just switch the today screen to DEFAULT, then format, and after the format completes just put your favourite theme :? (you could say its crap, but beleive me, it worked, am using my card now without any problems no more)
Micro$oft is weird
I'm bumping this. Is it still working, spadb? Did anyone else try this procedure?
spadb said:
After going around the bend with my SD Card being erased/corrupted on nearly daily basis, and being fortunate enough to have friends with both XDA I’s & II’s running both PPC 2002 & 2003 I thought I’d set out and scour the registry to see if anything was missing that could be causing the problem, and I instantly noticed a one thing. On my version of 2003 (4.01.16 T-mobile) there is no key referring to FAT file system for the SD Card, which both the XDA I (PPC 2002-O2) & XDA II (PPC 2003-O2) have.
Also the FATFS.DLL which exists under the \Windows folder (Hidden of course) on both PPC2002(O2) & PPC2003(O2) is not present on the T-Mobile (4.01.16) ROM, However there is a FATFSD.DLL referenced in \HKLM\System\StorageManager\FATFS but not linked to the Storage Card
So I've simply made substitute keys from the ones missing.
Since I’ve entered the following Keys, I’ve nearly gone a week without a single hiccup. Now it may be too early to tell, but if a few of you guys with this problem should try it and it works for you, then problem solved.
Here’s what to do.
Install the PMH Registry Editor (freeware) to your XDA then navigate to
\\HKLM\Drivers\PCMCIA\SDCard
Add the following REG_SZ key:
Value name: FSD
Value data: FATFSD.DLL
Also, I’m not quite sure if the next key adds any performance/stability but was present on the XDA II and not the XDA I, but I added it anyway
Add the following REG_DWORD key:
Value name: BlockTransferSize
Value data: 64
Could be a combination of either key or one or the other, or neither, but I haven’t the time to try each permutation. Or maybe I've just been lucky this week and It'll get wiped over the weekend, I'll keep you posted.
Now reset the device and good luck, plus please post your findings as I could be barking completely up the wrong tree!!
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Well maybe, but i don't think so, becuase when my MMC was wiped, I noticed that Windows has changed the file system to FAT32, although it was FAT16 before!!
So all what I think is that Windows needs the storage card to be formatted as FAT32 and not anything else!
I did formatted my MMC using FAT32, and now its working so fine, no wippings no data loss, it works like a charm
Am still using my MMC card without fear of getting wipped!
spadb thats a interesting fix, you might also wants to label your card (
as in reformat and then give it a name, that solved it for me and its been
months since my last erase).
HTH
Got the same problem
I tried most of the T mobile Roms they have the same bug which is painfull to restore data to the Storage :S and relocate the shortcuts..anyway if u just wanna try how this could be deleted try to pull off the sd out then put it in do it several times it will be wiped I tried that on purpose with the newest Tmobile rom and today wiped again by itself with an old Tmobile Rom 4.01.00 and the SD is on the FAT32. I just can't tell what should we do in this case nor the Tmobile wm2003 are good neither the ATT with the sound clipping, If there's some1 could get us the best Rom ever tested or a way to fix all this bug we'd appreciate the help.. P.S my SD is 256M.B
GOD DAMN IT!!!!!!! My 256 MMC card got wipped again!!!!! :twisted:
I hate this!!!!! I hate it I hate it I hate it
I wanna know if the SD card registry solution posted by "spadb" works with MMC cards as well!
I will recover my files & format the card again..
I hope this time it won't be wipped again!
by the way, is there any software which can map the SD / MMC card to a logical drive under windows, while the device is on the cradle (without using card readers)?
I'm getting this problem too. I've had my XDA II for less than a week and its wiped my SD card twice. Looking around other pocketpc forums on the web it appears that other people are experiencing this too. I wonder if this is a bug in the latest Windows Mobile 2003 update?
I've tried using the repair option in an evaluation copy of storage tools and it appears to be able to restore the data. It's almost as if the FAT is getting corrupted including the backup FAT.
I'm using FAT32 for the filesystem. I know my SD card is ok because it has worked 100% on my Orange SPV phone previously.
Going to phone O2 tomorrow because this is getting beyond a joke.
Cheers,
Richard.
name ur SD card storage or somthing and make it fat 32 ive never had a sd erase yet (touch wood) that was using a sandisk 256mb card, soon to get a simpletech 256mb (speedy )
What tool can I use to label the SD card? Storage tools doesn't appear to have that option.
Cheers,
Richard.
a pc :roll:
http://www.pocketgear.com/ppcw/software_detail.asp?id=8392
and posible pocket mecahics
For all of you guys who lost their data from their SD cards, you can ALWAYS get your data back using any SD Card Reader or Digital Camera.
Just put your SD card in the card reader or the cam & run any file recovery software on the removable disk which appears whenever you connect the card reader / cam to your PC, and you will restore all of your files.
I've restored all of my files using this simple way of recovery. 8)
The rubbish way that MS implemented the file system in things like Pocket Word is beginning to irritate me. I have "My Documents" in the main memory and I have one on my SD Card. I put everything onto the SD card, but loads of apps have installed stuff like setting files and so on, into the main memory.
Now when I open Pocket Word, I get a huge list of everything in all directories.....how do I make things like Pocket Word/Excel NOT look in the My Documents directory in main memory, but only look in the one on the SD card?
Any hints would be really great.
As far as I know, it's not possible...or, at least, fiendishly difficult for ordinary mortals not working for MS or its preferred partners.
I did hours of googling, but had to accept that you need two "My Documents" folders, the MS one and one on your SD card.
Also, you need to reflect the same subfolders on your SD card, such as "My Library" for the least inconvenience.
Not the answer you're looking for, I know. If you find a better one, do fill the rest of us in, please.
I'd like to save my new docs into the 'My Documents' folder of Storage Card automatically in order to save space in main (RAM) memory. I know it seems to be easy, just go to 'Options' and set 'Save to' Storage Card. I've done it in case of every frequently used program.
Camera and Excel works well, they place the new file into 'Storage Card\My Documents\My Pictures' and 'Storage Card\My Documents'. But Pocket Word and Notes place the new file just into Storage Card root dir.
Any hint how to solve it? Maybe some registry settings?
Thanks in advance
Tibor
(I posted the same message to Magician forum earlier since I have Magician but no answer came so far. - Maybe here...)
Solution
As it was my first request for assistance I thought the community was more helpful...
But no problem, finally I found the solution. (source: support.microsoft. com, article ID: 319616)
Let ME help if somebody has similar problem: you should delete the zero-byte-long 'ignore_my_docs' file from the root dir of Storage Card. This file prevents the built-in applications from using 'My Documents' dir as default/root folder while listing the files in 'Open File' window.
(If you need further explanation, refer to the above-mentioned Knowledge Base article.)
Cheers,
Tibor
Storage Card is a SD card and to save power it's disabled while the pda is off
many applications which run even when the device is off
use my doc dir
if it was located on a unavailable location like the SD card it would cause issues with the device
It's actually Q319516
Apparently the key is different in WM6. Used to be:
HKCU\Sofware\Microsoft\Mapi
And you could put the path in to the storage device.
Anybody know where it is now to move mail to storage device?
I see the Tweak Option has move IE Cache to SD, but none for Exchange Sync Outlook Mail.
Thanks
If anyone cares, found the new location.
HCLM\Software\Windows\Inbox\Settings
I found this out by turning on in the mail options store the email attachments on the stroage card. I then searched the registry for the path it used on the storage card which lead me to the above key.
Then I just changed the attachment path and added the key
PropertyPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail" datatype="string"
To then get the mail to go there also.
Had to do some tricks with the sim card a few times, renaming and locking up, but I deleted the mail settings for exchange and go it all figured out and now all mail/attachments on the storage card.
Memory just want hold 4000 items plus attachment..necessity.
---DELETE ---
thanks!
I've already know the key, but not the reg name of "PropertyPath", I thought the mail body has to put under \windows\messaging.
a little hint, it's HKLM\System\Inbox, not HKLM\Software\Windows\Inbox...
a problem:
if I add "PropertyPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail" datatype="string"
the next time I reboot my device, a folder named "Storage Card" was created automatically, and the real Storage Card was named "Storage Card2" !!!
I have to remove that propertypath key anyway and keep the mail body under main memory
huangyz said:
a problem:
if I add "PropertyPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail" datatype="string"
the next time I reboot my device, a folder named "Storage Card" was created automatically, and the real Storage Card was named "Storage Card2" !!!
I have to remove that propertypath key anyway and keep the mail body under main memory
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No, I found a workaround. Rename the new Storage Card folder to Storage Card.bak
Reboot the device and put your storage card back in, it should not create a new folder again. Don't know why, but just leave the Storage Card.bak folder there forever and it reboots over and over fine and you can put mail on the Card and not main memory...
This is essential seeing how I have 2000+ emails I like to sync and have reference too in subfolders on Exchange on my mobile device and attachments if necessary..
Whatever the key name I forget which one, but yeah, somebody referenced it above...it is HKLM without the Software...I accidentally put that in...
thanks for your info.
actually I renamed the new-created "Storage Card" to "Storage Card1" then after a softreset there comes a true "Storage Card" and so I delete "Storage Card1" and no more try~~~
huangyz said:
thanks for your info.
actually I renamed the new-created "Storage Card" to "Storage Card1" then after a softreset there comes a true "Storage Card" and so I delete "Storage Card1" and no more try~~~
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I tried that, but after reboots if did it again...maybe I can delete now and see if it sticks, but I thought I went through that.
Thx
Here's the problem that you are having. When you set save to sd, at startup your sd card starts too late in the startup process so a new storage card folder is created and that is always named storage card. The only solution is to delay the mail check and save at startup.
alexn2 said:
Here's the problem that you are having. When you set save to sd, at startup your sd card starts too late in the startup process so a new storage card folder is created and that is always named storage card. The only solution is to delay the mail check and save at startup.
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No, my solution works fine, let it create the Storage Card folder, then reboot the device with the card out and rename it to Storage Card.bak, or something.
Then, shut down device, put read SD card back in, leave the old .bak folder in along with your card, it won't do it again across reboots, working fine.
Again, I had to leave the Storage Card.bak folder on the device now, but no big deal, there is nothing in it but some folder and takes no spaces, it is just a holder that the device is looking for.
Thanks
guys just need some clarfication on this one
step by step guid please
il first turn on my save attachments to SD card
then when i go into regedit and find-
hKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>system>inbox>
do i click on inbox and then create a new key and type
PropertyPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail" datatype="string"
or do i click and highlight attachmnets and then click on new key and type the above?
techlogik thanks for this thread was looking for something like this.
N2h said:
guys just need some clarfication on this one
step by step guid please
il first turn on my save attachments to SD card
then when i go into regedit and find-
hKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>system>inbox>
do i click on inbox and then create a new key and type
PropertyPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail" datatype="string"
or do i click and highlight attachmnets and then click on new key and type the above?
techlogik thanks for this thread was looking for something like this.
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1) In POutlook Mail, go to Menu, Options. Last Tab, Storage. Turn on the store attachments on storage card option. Reboot of device might be required.
2) Using Registry Editor go to:
HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings
Add the new Value:
"PropertyPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail" datatype="string"
You will see the "AttachPath" that it put there already when you enable attachments though POutlook.
3) When restarting device, it might lock up and create a "Storage Card" folder on the device because the mail starts before the SD card. Your Storage Card will show up like "Storage Card1" or something.
If that is the case, just pull your SD card out, get it booted up, and rename the "Storage Card" folder to "Storage Card.bak"
Then, restart the device and put your Storage Card in before it reboots, it should then not create anymore folders.
Just leave the .bak folder there, it has nothing but some empty folders in it and doesn't waste space.
Mine works fine with this method putting mail and attachments on the storage card, many reboots, no problems now.
Good luck.
Works for me
This works for me. The only thing I had to do was go and delete all the old mail from the application dir and resync my exchange account.
Really bugging me!
Don't know why mail to SD setting is acting up now, before I was able to redirect it to my SD car in \Storage Card\My Document\My Mail\Inbox and \Storage Card\My Document\My Mail\Mail Attachments easily ....without a hassle with the new Storage card popping up...and I done this so many times ...suddenly after I install net front on SD card and new storage card pops up and my SD card is name Storage Card2 ....I try all the methods in this thread ..and none work for me. Anyone have another method, gosh was I lucky before...should have backup and wouldn't have to go thur this hell.
Hope to see another new solution. thanks your input.
a cab file for this
IS there a cab file for this?
cab file would be great now we just need someone with the time to create one,
hint hint anyone???
Storage Card - need to make sure nothing needs it at boot, or when it wakes up.
I've tried the "Storage Card.bak" route and it didn't help at all. Everytime my 8125 wakes up, or everytime it does a soft-reset it creates a new "Storage Card" folder before mounting the actual card. I end up with "Storage Card", "Storage Card.bak" and "Storage Card2"...
So, I discovered that if I have POutlook on the "Today" screen (someone sent me a note about this - so thanks to whomever that was!), it is the culprit. I have to remove "Messages" from the Today screen (not Calendar!), and it will stop doing this "create the folder before mounting the SD card". (I find this a _BUG_ in WM5 and WM6! The idea that external storage is mounted _after_ it starts up everything that might need it is idiotic.)
Also, I found that if you install Windows Live - you will have to re-flash the device in order to get this back to the way you want, since WL automatically starts putting stuff in the "PropertyPath".
If one of you dev gods have an "in" (contact person) at Microsoft, perhaps you could mention that this is a HUGE PAIN to their customers. (It also has to be an issue for phone manufacturers, who are probably constantly dogged by trying to shrink ROM images so that their customers can fit something useful in the remaining space.
(This reminds me of the old DOS/Windows 640KB limit.)
ok my question is you guys talk about using poutlook and sync what if i get my emails from comcast exmp.
i created a new account on my phne with comcast.net email
i get my emails by clicking send or recev and it logs me in and pulls it from server to my phone. now how can i get it to save on storage i read this thread but still confused.
so i went into
HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings
Add the new Value:
"PropertyPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail" datatype="string
also add the attachpath value \storage card\mail\attachments
and it did not create another storage card folder
looks like it worked
robinwilson2 said:
I've tried the "Storage Card.bak" route and it didn't help at all. Everytime my 8125 wakes up, or everytime it does a soft-reset it creates a new "Storage Card" folder before mounting the actual card. I end up with "Storage Card", "Storage Card.bak" and "Storage Card2"...
So, I discovered that if I have POutlook on the "Today" screen (someone sent me a note about this - so thanks to whomever that was!), it is the culprit. I have to remove "Messages" from the Today screen (not Calendar!), and it will stop doing this "create the folder before mounting the SD card". (I find this a _BUG_ in WM5 and WM6! The idea that external storage is mounted _after_ it starts up everything that might need it is idiotic.)
Also, I found that if you install Windows Live - you will have to re-flash the device in order to get this back to the way you want, since WL automatically starts putting stuff in the "PropertyPath".
If one of you dev gods have an "in" (contact person) at Microsoft, perhaps you could mention that this is a HUGE PAIN to their customers. (It also has to be an issue for phone manufacturers, who are probably constantly dogged by trying to shrink ROM images so that their customers can fit something useful in the remaining space.
(This reminds me of the old DOS/Windows 640KB limit.)
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This doesn't seem to work for me....I did I clean install and did the registry edit......reboot, have new storage card2....as the miniSD . Also I dont' have messages on my today...my today has nothing except date.
I have a Blue Angel with WM5 and I did a Registry Hack to use my SD Card as "My Documents" (not in a subfolder!).
Now, when I open a programm like TomeRaider or Word, in the file list I see every file twice. I think the system looks at"My Documents and Storage Card separately, despite the renaming. Does anybody know how to fix it?
The difficulty in working with files and directories on Pocket PCs has bugged me since their inception. I am hoping that WM6 will improve on that. We'll see.
In the meantime I've found that if I create a My Documents folder on my Storage Card I can get WM5 to at least see inside the storage card, and also one directory under My Documents there. I hope that helps, but it's really not a good answer. It won't get any better until windows mobile and the pocket apps are improved enough to allow them to read the filesystem to a greater depth.
It is really hard to understand how M$ has continued to sell and profit from such a sub-par solution that could likely be so easily fixed. Especially on devices that commonly utilize gigabytes of storage in today's working world.