I bought a Vox in july that looked new, I flashed soon after with WM 6.5. I dont know what the battery life was like before flashing but currently I only 1HR out of the battery with Wi-Fi on??!!
IS that normal?? OR should get a new battery??
Afterall I had a tornado before and that useto give me at least 2-3hrs of battery power using wi-fi constantly.
You should probalby change the power mode of WiFi to Auto or battery. It drains the battery veeeeery fast otherwise
yeah..me too. when i ON the wifi i can say with just 1-2 minit even already full charge and my vox turn OFF. when im trying to ON it back, its batery problem.
looking to a new batery now
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Before you suggest i change the battery.. it's just fine.
the problem started the day i flashed WM6 (over a month back) and has only started to bug me lately as my phone died on me 3 days in a row.
basically the moment the battery level gets down to 40-50% the phone just dies.. i could reset it and it powers up for a second or so then it dies again.
i flashed WM5 back.. and the phone was working fine even if the battery level reached 10% (i get a warning bubble but it doesn't just die on me!)
i've searched around and noticed the only suggestions were to change the battery, which seemed kinda useless as i'm almost sure the problem is somewhere in WM6 power management/battery handling.
any comments?
Try another WM6.
If you used Helmi's/Jwright's try DarkForce's/PDAVIET, or vice versa.
Mate I can get mine to die at 90% battery just by switching WIFI Bluetooth and opening a CPU intensive app (Google maps/Tom-Tom).
I’ve ordered a new battery and its coming next week so I will see if this is any better.
This is more than likely a Current problem, an in the battery cant supply enough amps for the phone to function properly, im almost certain that the WM6 ROMS do cause more current to be drawn from the battery but it is most likely that this is just highlighting that the battery is on its last legs.
Ill post back when the new one comes, If its doesn’t fix my problem I will be flashing back to the standard WM5 ROM to do some tests.
its probably the battery
i had the same problem. a new battery fixed it. it would die at 45% but now works all the way down to 5%.
new batt or borrow one from a friend to test.
I have seen the same thing on the BA fora as well: It's not that the whole batery is dead, but some of the cells in the battery are.
There it was also fixed with a new(er) battery...
I had to add a comment
I use a Exec with WM6 and i have a MDA Pro that i keep trying different roms on so i can use and mess with it and at the same time keep my sort of stable exec for work.
i do swop batteries between phones and so on, i cant say what roms i am useing when this happen but i have the same problem on the MDA Pro 40-45% it shuts off, reset and it starts for a second then shuts off, so i then put the battery from the exec ( charged ) in the MDA and away it goes my exec happly sits there at 40 or so % and will go down to 0 flat.
So its not the battery its the phone, but as said by someone else it could be dependent on what rom i am useing at the time
It is the battery..100%...pls buy a new one or try exchange from yr friend..nothing wrong with the Phone..
I tested every wm5 and wm6 roms and i have two batteries: one dies at 35% while the other never dies but gives warnings on the red side.
tailazoom said:
I tested every wm5 and wm6 roms and i have two batteries: one dies at 35% while the other never dies but gives warnings on the red side.
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I still think the main problem is the battery.
But I think WM6 just uses more power intensively then WM5 does. That would be the reason the phone dies.
Mine always goes back on again but then dies booting the OS.
Had the same problem with old PDAVIET rom
Hi, had the same problem with the old PDAVIET ROM 2.08 somethign or other, but since upgrading to 2.10.02, everything is back to normal, and lightning fast.
Try the newer ROM, and then see if the same happens, and if it does, then it is the battery which is definately causing the problem.
Kevin
I have read somewhere in these forums that when the Networks release their official ROMs for upgrades they all clearly state that you should ensure your battery is at 100% charge as when you run the ROM upgrade the battery management resets its self to the level of the battery.........ie it assumes 100% but if your battery is at only 50%, then 50% becomes what it believes to be 100% therefore half the battery life.
I have to kind of agree with this because my first WM6 upgrade I was so eager to do my M5000 had only been on charge for 10mins or so and after the upgrade battery life was awful, however since then I upgrade only after my M5000 has been at 100% for about 30mins and since have not had any issues wahtsoever with battery life
Hope this helps
Shaunfarris said:
I have read somewhere in these forums that when the Networks release their official ROMs for upgrades they all clearly state that you should ensure your battery is at 100% charge as when you run the ROM upgrade the battery management resets its self to the level of the battery.........ie it assumes 100% but if your battery is at only 50%, then 50% becomes what it believes to be 100% therefore half the battery life.
I have to kind of agree with this because my first WM6 upgrade I was so eager to do my M5000 had only been on charge for 10mins or so and after the upgrade battery life was awful, however since then I upgrade only after my M5000 has been at 100% for about 30mins and since have not had any issues wahtsoever with battery life
Hope this helps
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I thought it was because when you put your device into BL and flash it to a new rom, during the upgrade the phone won't charge.
So if you update with only 10% battery the device could turn off during the flash, and that would be a bad thing.
So they state (advice) to charge it to 100% before flashing.
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I thought it was because when you put your device into BL and flash it to a new rom, during the upgrade the phone won't charge.
So if you update with only 10% battery the device could turn off during the flash, and that would be a bad thing.
So they state (advice) to charge it to 100% before flashing.
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Wrong. The previous poster is 100% correct. Better charge your battery to 100% before flashing.
What should I do if I had ROMed my Uni not in 100% bat.?
Your PDA needs to be fully charged because during the flashing the battery is not charging. So if your phone runs out of battery before the upload has finished you are screwed.
I never believe that the state of the battery is been used as the 100% level of your battery during flashing. I make elektronics myself, the battery level is always measured elektronically.
I had the same issue. I fix it with a new battery and works fine since then.
A bit of both
WM6 does use more current compared to WM5 and most of us have been torturing our Uni's with all the flashing we do (We don't use them as a phone much more of an intellectual playfield) . Also most of us have had the Uni for a year and some longer. My XDA Exec is 2 years and T-Mobile MDA Pro a year in sometime. The batteries are a bit older and unable to supply the increased power as before. I do have this problem if I use the older batt on WM6 and the newer batt works just fine. But then again the older batt works fine on the MDA pro (unchanged with original MDA Roms).
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Hi,
i was suffering from the same batery issue in the last 10-12 months, and let me share my experinces. After my original battery started to die first at 20% and finally at 50% i bought a new one. I read tonns of articles about LI-POLymer batteries and tried o follow as it was written. The result : after 4 months my new battery is in the same state. I bought 2 other. When i started to use the first, i had always recharge it between 10-20%. Now this battery dies at 12-15%. I let my latest battery to go down to 3 % ALWAYS and after 5 months NO PROBLEM AT ALL!.
So my experience:
-let the bttery go down. I don't care what other experts say about the characteristic of Li-Polymer. For me it seems that practice is different.
-NEVER,NEVER,NEVER cahrge the battery if it is not empty. In my car if I want to use my UNI for listening music or GPS then i REPLACE MY GOOD BATTERY with the old one, and then i use the car charger. With my laptop i use only BLUETOOTH connections
-ALWAYS USE original charger. No laptop, no car charging
-If i do an upgrade for any ROM i ALWAYS DO THE UPGRADE WITH THE OLD BATTERY.
-USE at least 2 batteries, one is always charged fully, and if the other goes down you can replace it quickly
I am sure that there are many experts, who can tell me why i am wrong, but the pratice seems to work for me. And i have not found any experts who could explain these strange situations with UNI. Now I have 3 batteries. All is about 10 months old. One dies between 30-50%, the other dies always at 10-12% and the last always at 2-3%.
crikey, the device is big enough as it is without carrying around more batterys. Mine's starting to die at 70% now. When it reboots it seems to die when the radio stack is activated. Had it for 13 months now my stylus falls out too had to put cellotape around it which has sorted it.
Just waiting for three(uk) to bring out the tytn so i can move over with their x-series stuff!!! woohooo!
I've had mine about 13 months now and it started dying at 40% left then 60% then 85% (of battery left!). I bought a new battery and 3 days later without charging it's still on 65% left
Hi, has any of you guys noticed that 6.1 seems to use more battery when connected to wi-fi? I've just updated to O2 Orbit II 6.1 and I've found that my battery is going down quiet quickly when connected to wi-fi, at a rate of 1% battery every 2mins connected (My wireless LAN setting for Power mode is set to Best Battery). Is there anything else I can do to stop this type of power usage, as i'm pretty sure win 6 wasn't this bad as I had my wi-fi on all the time. It just seems that its using more power. Any ideas?
Turn WiFi off when you don't need it? Just my two cents.
For comparable results install HomeScreen ++ and check power drain in mA.
I have ~172/52 mA with 100%/0% backlight with win 6.1 and BT+WiFi+Gsm Edge when idle. Abt 10mA in standby. Believe it's similar to 6.0
Battery last easily for whole day with heavy calling.
3G not working (damaged, don't care) so cannot test.
Hi people. I'm having battery problems since I bought my TP. I tried many ROM and Radios combinations and the problem persists.
Also tried discharging the battery and long charging while turned off (3 consecutive days) as recommended by some members here in xda.
Nothing solved. What could it be? A hardware problem (TP itself) or only a bad battery? Whats more likely?
I would like to know where can I buy an original spare battery to test this. Anyone know?
Thanks in advance!
google.... Here's one, but it's a yahoo page. Take down the oem # and start from there. Also, i think there was a little booklet that should have came with your tp about accessories... http://www.wirelessground.com/htctprooembatt.html
what about using non-official batteries? its risky? because there are batteries for TP for about 5 usd
You know that it will drain battery as long as it is in "sleep-mode" and not entirely powered down. You have to press the powerbutton for 3-4 seconds and then it asks you if you want to power off.
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You know that it will drain battery as long as it is in "sleep-mode" and not entirely powered down. You have to press the powerbutton for 3-4 seconds and then it asks you if you want to power off.
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Of course, I mean my TP has a abnormal batt drain with normal use... the batt lasts less than 12h. I unplug it 10am and the battery is finished before 10pm depending on use.
have you by any change changed the TF3D theme?
i made my own theme, but i get the impression that battery drains much faster now. watched the battery fall from 21% to 18% in 3 minutes without doing anything besidesscrolling between TF3D tabs.i think themes might be making more use of the 3d accelerator and drain the battery..
I'm using default theme from ROMeOS v1.20
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Of course, I mean my TP has a abnormal batt drain with normal use... the batt lasts less than 12h. I unplug it 10am and the battery is finished before 10pm depending on use.
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yeah.. agreed..the bat is so fast drain. never have this problem with athena.
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Of course, I mean my TP has a abnormal batt drain with normal use... the batt lasts less than 12h. I unplug it 10am and the battery is finished before 10pm depending on use.
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Oh, I´m sorry
Do you have it turned on all the time in locked mode? Or do you put it to sleep/standby when you not use it?
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Oh, I´m sorry
Do you have it turned on all the time in locked mode? Or do you put it to sleep/standby when you not use it?
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Standby when not in use. Actually, while I dont use, the battery drain seems normal, maybe 2 days or more. The problem is when I use it.
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Standby when not in use. Actually, while I dont use, the battery drain seems normal, maybe 2 days or more. The problem is when I use it.
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I have the same problem... When I dont use it (stand by mode) it lasts 2 days, but when I use it is lasts 12h maximum...
Tried everything.
Dont know what to do...
thats sad =(
maybe Ill try one of those alternative batteries in ebay
How about upgrading the Radio Rom!? I have found since going to 1.02.25.28 and having ROMeOS² v1.21 my battery life is much better than stock Roms of both!!
Its something worth trying and easy enough to change back...
Has there been any good solutions? My battery life is starting to annoy me.
Maybe I'll pick up a second battery and charging cradle thing for it...
That's one thing that I liked about the instinct...
I think we need a Stock TP to compare it to .. I know when I bought mine for the first day or two without adding anything to it, I didn't notice an issue with the battery. Now that I've installed tweaking software, theme, etc - battery drain is definitely noticeable. I'm thinking it may have to do with one (or more) of the programs we put on the phone.
Anyone here have a completely stock TP with a battery problem?
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How about upgrading the Radio Rom!? I have found since going to 1.02.25.28 and having ROMeOS² v1.21 my battery life is much better than stock Roms of both!!
Its something worth trying and easy enough to change back...
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tried all radios available in wiki page (except .11 and .16)
but that was with romeos 1.12 and dcs, I'll give a try for .28 with romeos 1.21
but I'm pretty sure that the problem is hardware, since many people use romeos 1.21 and radio .19 and dont have problems...
My phone had a very short battery life when it was bone stock too.
I'm afraid to see what it's like now with the tweaks!!!
mine is original stock TP batterry..but also facing the same problem. in average have to charge twice in a day..and the charging takes a few hours. so my phone is only running on battery for not more that 15 hrs in a day..
I'm hoping now thats its a bad batch of batteries problem and not a phone itself problem
I'm having a simlar issues. Put my TP on off/standby (single press of power button) at around 10pm, on flight mode enabled, all appliactions closed via task manger. Battery was at 80% when I did this. My TP's low battery alert woke me up at 4:30am at 8% charge.
My Blueangel used to last several days in the same state out of it's cradle without needing to be charged!
I to am hoping it's just a duff battery.
UPDATE: Seems I was being a twonk! I had unchecked the Auto-Shutdown option for a game I was playing and forgot to turn it back on, so my TP was turning on at midnight to do it's housekeeping and not shutting down again properly.
I still don't think my battery life is normal though, may try the following:
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Found this on Sprintusers.com: It's an 06 post, but I wonder if it's still an issue. Found here http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=175896
Received the below from my Sprint rep.
It has been brought to my attention that there is a glitch in Windows Mobile phones that has been there since WM5… Apparently when a phone is first used the firmware looks at the charge on the battery as a reference point as to how long to charge it for until it is completely charged. So for example, if you have a WM phone that has a half charge on the battery when you first plug it in the device will only ever charge up 50% of the battery. You need to basically set the phone to put that marker in place when the phone is completely dead to gain the most battery performance you can.
Here is the best practice for doing this:
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1. Let the phone completely die on battery power.
2. Plug the phone in and charge for only about 5 minutes (just long enough it can boot up completely)
3. Perform a hard reset of the device, this is done differently depending on the phone model.
4. Then place the phone on charge for at least 8hrs.
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This should reset that marker that the operating system places on the battery charge cycle and will allow the phone to completely charge the battery rather than only a % of a full charge. This procedure can be done at anytime and I would suggest having your customers try this process first before returning a device based on battery life issues.
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When I switch the wi-fi on, and my battery is about 40% , i don't know why, but after some minutes of browsing the phone is turning off! It doesn't gave any signals of low battery ot something... just turns black screen and goes off.
Any ideas why is that happening? And how can i fix it?
Hi!
I had the same problem!
Sorry but it's time to change your battery
are you sure? it looks strange to me 0_o'
did the new battery solve your problem?
Yes it did solve for me
yes this is a battery issue.
replace your battery.
Then... why it happens only with the wi-fi and not with the others operations i do?
wifi sucks a lot of power
thats why
Same problem here, though I also get it when surfing on EDGE. Battery on order.
pretty ****ty =D
Do you know if there are 2100 mAh batteries available (for the Vox)?
I just got an old HTC Trinity 3600 from my dad, I installed WM6 on it and I noticed there seems to be something off with the devices battery reading. If I dont touch it from a full day the battery will remain at the same 90%, but as soon as I do something with it the battery drops really really fast, like down to 50% in just a few minutes. But the weirdest thing is, once it gets to 10% it stays there for a very long time.
I tried doing a full charge and empty it as much as I could (turn it back on several times and even load the bootloader and let it die there) but it doesn't seem to have fix it.
Is there anyway I can fix it? Or as a last alternative, is there anyway to remove the battery limitations WM6 has once it reaches 10%? For example, it doesn't let me use Wi-Fi, even though the battery will still last a long time once it reaches 10%.