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Can't see who's calling... (?)

Hi,
Do any of you 750 owners have seen this before?
Lately (a week or so ago) I started to get calls and the "notification" popup won't come up. I hear the ring and vibrate and there is a phonecall icon on the top bar next to the data arrows but the notification is missing so I can't see who's calling.
If/when I answer I can finally see the caller information.
This doesn't happen with every call (probably with about half of them per day).
Any idea or did you hear about something similar?
Thanks,
Zax.

Haven't had that particular problem, but I've had other issues when calls come in.
Sometimes (after I've put the device from silent to regular mode using the top slider) the phone doesn't ring and doesn't vibrate although the call notification is showing on screen. This gets fixed after one or more soft resets.
On a fair few other occasions - this is intermittent and extremely annoying - the phone doesn't react at all when someone calls me (no notification, no vibrate, no ring - nothing) but I get a audible and visible missed call notification after the caller has given up / been diverted to voicemail. This problem goes away of its own accord eventually; restarts don't seem to have any effect.
Seriously, if this device wasn't a fairly good PDA as well as a phone, I'd put it in the bin.

Ringer delay causing lots of missed calls.

My phone has a very noticeable delay on incoming calls. I'll see it light up and flash for a bit, take a few seconds to get caller ID, then it will finally ring once before going to voicemail. All the while the caller is hearing the phone ring but I'm not...I tested it. Since I don't stare at my phone all day I have a high volume of missed calls because many times I only get the last ring. Any ideas what's going on? I tinkered with settings in Advanced Config and DiamondTweak. No dice. I'm using the stock Fuze Rom.

Isn't this normal behavior?
I've set my Kaiser on GSM mode and I can hear calls coming in on my computer's speakers a full 2-3 seconds before the phone actually rings.

diar said:
My phone has a very noticeable delay on incoming calls. I'll see it light up and flash for a bit, take a few seconds to get caller ID, then it will finally ring once before going to voicemail. All the while the caller is hearing the phone ring but I'm not...I tested it. Since I don't stare at my phone all day I have a high volume of missed calls because many times I only get the last ring. Any ideas what's going on? I tinkered with settings in Advanced Config and DiamondTweak. No dice. I'm using the stock Fuze Rom.
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I have the same problem (htc org. rom)

Maybe this will work
I noticed that when someone calls my phone, they get two rings before my ringtone turns on.
After a second, my Fuze's LED starts flashing, then my ringtone starts playing after another second.
I have an idea:
1. Go into "Start > Settings > Phone"
2. Go to the "Services" tab
3. Highlight "Call forwarding" and then click the "Get Settings..." button.
4. Change the "Forward after:" dropdown box to something higher (e.g. "30 seconds")
It won't help the ring delay, but I think this will give you a little more time before the call is sent to your voicemail. I haven't tried it, but let me know if that helps

NuShrike said:
Isn't this normal behavior?
I've set my Kaiser on GSM mode and I can hear calls coming in on my computer's speakers a full 2-3 seconds before the phone actually rings.
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I wouldn't call this normal. This is the first mobile phone that I've had that has had delays that long. If I didn't keep my phone next to me for most of the day, I'd probably miss more of my calls as well.

adamantypants said:
I wouldn't call this normal. This is the first mobile phone that I've had that has had delays that long. If I didn't keep my phone next to me for most of the day, I'd probably miss more of my calls as well.
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I agree with you, this lag is very big problem, I missed a lot of calls, most of people must call me again because they are forwarding to voicemail at first time before I find TP (I cannot change in forwarding to 30 sec.
I'm wondering how it is in Diamond.

This is very frustrating. Nothing seems to fix this problem. I've reduced the call ID match to five digits instead of eight. I've made sure that Ring Time is set to "without delay" in DiamondTweak. I'll try the idea to change the call forwarding time but this seems to be a major problem in the OS itself. With this issue, Voice Command problems, the GPS lag and other issues I might have to jump to another phone.
Do cooked ROMS have these same issues?

I've got the same issue.. using T.I.R. V8R ROM, so yes, this delay is present also on custom ROMS. It has to do with the dialer skin?

This was discussed in a thread on an app that causes the vibrate pattern to match the ring pattern in hacks & discussions (I think called VAlert). The vibrate pattern starts immediately and the ring is delayed so the app isn't perfect (unless you build a delay into the vibrate but that's separate). The solution seems to be an app from tweaks2k2.net that I hear removes the delay. This is an issue with all WM phones. I haven't tried tweaks2k2 but I hear it works.

the tweaks2k2 fix - to eliminate the 3 second ringer delay - didn't work for me. so i went into the network phone settings and set the call forwarding to 25 seconds (it was 10). that didn't fix the ringer delay but now at least my phone rings three or four times before going to voicemail. i guess that will have to do for now.

diar said:
the tweaks2k2 fix - to eliminate the 3 second ringer delay - didn't work for me. so i went into the network phone settings and set the call forwarding to 25 seconds (it was 10). that didn't fix the ringer delay but now at least my phone rings three or four times before going to voicemail. i guess that will have to do for now.
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it don't work sorry

Doing some debugging, on the Fuze at least the ringer delay seems to be tied to the bloatedness of the dialer.. it has a whole bunch of imports so its loading alot of stuff up every time you get an incoming call.. I'm afraid the only solution for this will be a dialer that does not bring in those kind of dependancies (PTT, Video Share, G-Sensor, etc)
The fastest way to go would be using the default windows dialer, but you'd lose all that functionality.. but hey. It would ring instantly!
I'll look into stripping the dialer from my clean ROM and providing a cab..

Confirmed. Removed the AT&T dialer skin from my rom and called my phone, rang as fast as any other phone would.. So the dialer skin is indeed the culprit.

Dang AT&T. Dang them and all their bloatware.
I'm going to corporate store to complaint. To all of them within a 10 mile radios.

I've posted my Beta 1.5 with the dialer removed. It's not an official fix by AT&T, but it is a fix..
I'll see if I can whip up a .cab to stop the dialer from loading in the stock AT&T ROM, that should help there too.

i like this dialer...but not that much. how do i disable it? in advanced config, i saw an option to enable the phone dialer skin or the default windows mobile dialer. would switching to the default fix it without causing any other problems?
EDIT: switched to default dialer and that fixed it. it also seems to have fixed the problem of having to re-enter the data connection password after a soft reset.

This set of cab's should do the job for anyone who doesn't want to install Advanced Config (it's a single registry entry HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin - Enabled=0/1)

Wow it really is about two seconds before the phone rings. Hm I never missed a call yet on this phone. where do you keep your phone that it takes so long to answer it?

AT&T's network lets you set the number of seconds before the call rolls over to voicemail, as do others, I believe the default on AT&T is 20 seconds, with a minimum of 5 and a maximum of 30, so if someone has it set to 5, that leaves only 3 seconds..
Of course they could just set it higher, but that's a different issue

So then a simple fix would be to go into your voicemail and set it to 22 seconds and then you still have the same time to pick up that phone. But still how does the 2 second dely really make you miss all them calls?

Get the phone out of the case + Answering a call = Impossible?

Does this happen to any one or is it just me?
I have an ordinary case for my Touch Pro. Almost 10 out of 10 times when the phone rings and I reach out to my phone, try to take it out - boom - the call becomes a missed call. I guess what is happening here is that once the phone rings, the screen is active and either your finger accidentally touches the volume key or any other key or even the screen, it makes it a missed call. It is very annoying and how to avoid this????
Thanks

kmahesh said:
Does this happen to any one or is it just me?
I have an ordinary case for my Touch Pro. Almost 10 out of 10 times when the phone rings and I reach out to my phone, try to take it out - boom - the call becomes a missed call. I guess what is happening here is that once the phone rings, the screen is active and either your finger accidentally touches the volume key or any other key or even the screen, it makes it a missed call. It is very annoying and how to avoid this????
Thanks
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there is a key disabler cab look for it

There are many options how to disable the touchscreen.
There was a topic not long ago about this.
Answerkey Disabler
PocketShield (I currently use this one)
TouchProLock
Sensorlock
Throttlelock
S2U2 (not recommended for TP, drains the battery for unknown reason)
All these deal with locking the TP.
Sorry for not posting links but I don't have much time. All of them are available on XDA though.

You do have the option of extending the time it takes for a call to go to voice mail, it can be extended up to 30 seconds. The option is under settings > phone > Services > Call Forwarding
There is also a lot of lag on between the time the caller's phone is ringing and you get a ring on the Fuze

I guess this is not because of the keys. Just keep the phone in front of you and try to call your phone and see your self, first you will see the incoming call indicator light, and after some time you will start hearing the ring tone. Now by the time you take the phone from the case - it's a miss call. I tried to search all over XDA but didn't find a way to start ringing immediately when call comes, I read some where that this is due to the dialer skin and by using default WM dialer this can be fixed. I didn't try this.

kmahesh said:
Does this happen to any one or is it just me?
I guess what is happening here is that once the phone rings, the screen is active and either your finger accidentally touches the volume key or any other key or even the screen, it makes it a missed call.
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I think he was talking about the touchscreen being active on incoming calls.
If however the problem is in the delay, then the dialer skin is the key.
You have to change it to the WM default (it does work, the lag is almost gone) and have the ringtone in WAV format (not tested, I didn't bother to put any wavs).

if you get rid of the dialer and switch to WM
you will lose functionality including the symbol to show bluetooth being on or off

I downloaded and installed disableanswerkeys and it works fine. It took a while for me to understand the cryptic question it asks in the beginning - i get stumped if there are two negatives in a sentence So It is on and i tried and it works ok. I also downloaded sensorlock and throttlelock. Yet to try these ... will post my comments.
the lag in answering the call - i believe there is a separate thread about that, right?
Thanks for the help

lbhocky19 said:
if you get rid of the dialer and switch to WM
you will lose functionality including the symbol to show bluetooth being on or off
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LOL, that's what happened to my bluetooth......thanks

Is it possible to increase ringtone length?

I know that the ringtone and sms tones have to be about 30secs in length otherwise it wont play your tone that you set if its too long. Is their a way to extend it or get an app that lets you extend it? Just that some tones I have it chops of the last remaining parts of the chorus or something like that

If it's a full MP3, it'll play until your carrier send it to Voicemail.
How Would Dr.Pepper Handle This?

Archangel22 said:
I know that the ringtone and sms tones have to be about 30secs in length otherwise it wont play your tone that you set if its too long. Is their a way to extend it or get an app that lets you extend it? Just that some tones I have it chops of the last remaining parts of the chorus or something like that
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The standard among all carriers worldwide is 4 "standard rings" - and then the call is redirected to VM or forwarded to the # you set for CF. Many carriers allow for adjusting the amount of time before the call is transferred, but probably most of North American carriers don't since we have the lousiest GSM service in the world. Normally it is done with use of standard GSM codes, example: Cingular VM but call your carrier first and ask is it possible on their network.
If you don't have VM (or CF) then you may use longer ringtones on your phone and it won't be cut after first few "rings", but don't go for some few minutes long songs set as ringtone, because it still will be cut after certain amount of "rings". Your carrier's network will stop "ringing" you - sending incoming call notification to your handset - after at most 12-20 "rings" (depending on carrier's network settings).

I agree with MT4GS. I think my father had the option of picking how many rings it takes to get to voicemail when he was configuring his voicemail for the first time on Sprint.
But the ring time is definitely carrier specific. Your ringtone can be as long as you like, but if it takes only 30 seconds or so to get to voicemail, maybe consider chopping the mp3 down to size. Pick the part of the song that you want to hear
WARNING: setting your favorite song as your ringtone will almost certainly drive you to hate it after the first week.

Wow I didnt even know I had voicemail enabled or call diversion enabled. I checked my carrier they were both active so I switched them off, but I tested it and called myself it rings for 30secs then get the stupid message saying Im not available and the call ends. It wont keep ringing. Guess I cant change that part hahaha oh well chop the tones to 30secs I guess it is. Too bad sometimes Im away from my phone and miss it by the time I hear it in other parts of the office or house

Max ring time is 30 seconds before the call gets forwarded to voicemail. You can change the ring time via dial codes..
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/4154
**61*<VOICEMAIL NUMBER>**<seconds>#

[Q] Setting for non-repeating ringtones?

Hi @all,
long ago in times where Nokia was the leading company which sold the most phones their phones had a setting for a single tone notification for an incoming call. My latest phone (ulefone metal with Android N) has a weak vibration, so i'm missing calls from time to time. But i don't want to have a long running, loud ringtone, because when i'm not at my desk, but my phone is still there, i don't want that my colleagues will be disturbed by a ringtone which runs a minute or so.
I found an audiofile with a single beep, which i can use as ringtone, but this beep will always repeated as long as the caller doesn't give up. This is even more annoying than a standard ringtone. So now my question is: How can i set up the phone that this audiofile is played only once and not repeatedly? This works for notifications, but not for calls. I'm searching for such a functionality in modern phones all the time since the Nokia-times, but didn't find it. Anybody out there knows such a setting for android phones?
As a workaround i could create an audiofile with a single beep and 5 minutes of silence, but this is stupid
Thanks, jennix