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how "android 2.0-friendly" are current HTC android phones?

Hello guys,
You 've made a great forum here, and i must admit you're all doing amazing work. I have a question that made me crawl out of my lurking cave.
I was thinking about buying a HTC Magic/Saphire phone. Maybe getting involved with some android development. Anyway, i was wondering how compatible the phones are with the upcoming android 2.0. I know multitouch will be support (and already is in Hero,) but does that mean that i will be able to upgrade to android 2.0 and enjoy multitouch in Magic? I know multitouch capabilities are already enabled through some roms.
Also, will i expierence slower speeds with coming versions of android? [i'm thinking the way a computer made with xp in mind, behaves when you install Vista on it].
I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but i haven't found a clear answer yet

As far as MultiTouch is concerned...my understanding is that it will only work with capicitive touch screens. The Hero's screen is capacitive.
Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I am aware the G1(Dream) and Magic have risistive screens.

Paul, thanks for your answer
That's what i thought at first, and i was gonna wait for hero to come out in Greece, but i found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=558344&highlight=multitouch
and this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4510792&postcount=26
so it seems it works with custom roms. Any ideas about the speed factor and/or the compatibility of the phones with future android versions?

TheBrit said:
As far as MultiTouch is concerned...my understanding is that it will only work with capicitive touch screens. The Hero's screen is capacitive.
Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I am aware the G1(Dream) and Magic have risistive screens.
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Both the G1(Dream) and magic have capacitive screens. All Android phones on the market at this time have capacitive screens

Android 2.0 isn't being developed yet. 1.6 is though (codenamed donut.)
Cyanogen, over in the dream forum has already ported and IMPROVED 1.6 into the G1's.

ivanmmj2 said:
Android 2.0 isn't being developed yet. 1.6 is though (codenamed donut.)
Cyanogen, over in the dream forum has already ported and IMPROVED 1.6 into the G1's.
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That is not true either. 2.0 is rumored to be what is shipping on the upcoming Motorola Shules. The code name for 2.0 is eclair.

so, to get back to my original question, when Shules launches, will android 2.0 be portable to 1.6 phones like magic? i read that it won't be portable to G1 [or, to be more accurate, that they wont release an official update for it]

cynop said:
so, to get back to my original question, when Shules launches, will android 2.0 be portable to 1.6 phones like magic? i read that it won't be portable to G1 [or, to be more accurate, that they wont release an official update for it]
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well the issue for the G1 was not have enough memory to "store" the update, but one of the lead developers said that the quote was taken in the wrong way. As far as I know, if you flash it yourself it should fit and work fine in the future. It is just that having the OS on there and then trying to do an Over the Air update would cause issues due to lack of space.

Alittle off the topic but, here's a spec chart of all the android phones on the market. http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/09/10/android-battle-cliq-edition/

Android V2.0 ROM?

Hi,
Now that the SDK for version 2.0 is out, I was wondering when we could realistically expect to see a ROM for the Magic which was 2.0?
Any idea clever people?
The Bluetooth API is what I am interested in.

We're waiting for the official code to be released from HTC.
should be soon.

32B Eclair ROM Firmware 2.1 ???

Hi
It seems to be alot of convestaion around 2.1 Official Firmware PORTED to Magic 32A floating around... There are any for 32B???
With most functionality working like, bluetooth, Wifi and Camera?
If there is please post some link to us
Cheers

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593102
Its not 100% yet, actually its kinda buggy, but so far its the best.
But not for long!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642139

Check the G1 Development section, almost all ROMs released there work on both G1 and Magic 32B. The G1 has a 32B baseboard as well.
Some popular Eclair ROMs are called OpenEclair, KingKlick's and Manup's. HTC has not released graphics or camera drivers for the 32B, so currently there is no camcorder, video or YouTube HD on 2.0/2.1 ROMs. The still camera works only because someone figured it out on their own.
Sapphire Dev seems to have become focused more on 32A and the few rare Magic-specific ROMs like Amon_RA.

Is Android 1.6 (Donut) working on the HTC Diamond?

This seems like a really obvious answer if you know it... but i have been looking high and low to figure this out. Is android 1.6 working fully on the HTC Diamond 500 CDMA (Telus)? I keep seeing things such as the GPS, Bluetooth, and data don't work on version 2.0.1 so I was just trying see what I was getting myself into if there's extra work

It's been a week and no replies but enough views... So is that a no? does no one know?

Is Android 1.6 (Donut) working on HTC Diamond?
Yes. Check Xandroid website. You can install android on your SD card, and also install Gen.Ydualboot.......meaning you will have two OS ( wm and android). I have got them on my HTC HD.
Shayind4

shayind4 said:
Yes. Check Xandroid website. You can install android on your SD card, and also install Gen.Ydualboot.......meaning you will have two OS ( wm and android). I have got them on my HTC HD.
Shayind4
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Does everything (Camera/GPS/Mic./etc...) work? I've recently seen that Android 2.0.1 (Eclair) has made some progress but that is still not able to run these things which personally would render my phone useless

no man i was using android on my diamond for a long time, the system is good but sometimes the bugs are just @#$%^.....
That's why I got a cheap second hand HTC dream. I can say this phone is just so wicked! full keyboard FTW!

ohcanada said:
no man i was using android on my diamond for a long time, the system is good but sometimes the bugs are just @#$%^.....
That's why I got a cheap second hand HTC dream. I can say this phone is just so wicked! full keyboard FTW!
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damn too bad. maybe one day thanks guys. and yea the dreams too big for me... gonna look into the palm pre (plus)

[DEV Discussion] HD Mini Android/Linux Development Thread

The purpose of this thread is to discuss the possibilities of getting Android up and running on the HD Mini.
A word to the wise…porting Android is NOT easy, it took almost 1 year to get an (almost) fully working port for the HTC Touch Pro, and there were a LOT of really good Linux developers spending TONS of time on it. (The preceding sentence was paraphrased from this post by TheDeadCpu.)
***There have been many threads opened on this topic…and most of them have been merged with this thread. So let’s keep the discussion located on THIS thread…new threads opened on this topic will be closed, deleted or merged without warning. Let me know if new threads pop up by sending me a PM or using the report post icon in the top right of the post ….thanks!
2/13/2011 Big News: Android / Linux port for PHOTON by Cotulla
Thanks to Cotulla for getting the ball rolling!

eh, it´s a new Phone, u sold some...days...weeks...ago..?!?!?! WTF u didn´t buy a android phone if u like one?

Gosh, maybe he wanted a HDmini sized phone and now he wants to get Android s/ware. Get people skills an stop hating

francomok421 said:
Any method can install android for HTC HD mini WM phone?
Thanks a lot!
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Me to!! Can't live with what's in the HD Mini, but most certainy I can live with the hardware. Anybody knowing how to androidize it?

I bought HD mini due to the outlook, size and weight!
Legend have poor taste and the shape is not good to store in pocket.
Frankly, WM is more easy to copy and edit the Word/Excel files from PC and I can check some files out of office easily.
And I just seek for any solutions for multi-boot with Android OS as Android looks better and I just want to try it and need not to buy another phone.
Cos I have one iPhone already, too many mobile phones~

When the evo rom arrives, it will be ported to hd2. I find it logical that it will be a android powered hd mini in the future. Then, it would be rather easier than now to create a custom android rom for hd mini But I should stick to reality.
The dual boot app for winmo devices isn't written for hd minis hvga resolution.
But hey, the diamond 2 or touch pro 2 does not have a android twin to take a rom from. I will put up a request for hd mini support for the android dual boot app.
The hd mini would have been a great android device!
Sorry for bad English.

Thanks gingerviking! I agree that the hardware is made for Android rather than wm6.5. I cross my finger for a rapid solution - WM is just not for me anymore..

Good news is that a genious has managed to get the linux bootloader to work on hd2 and playing a 720p video. An Android port will soon come to hd2 even without the evo rom
Hopefully the kernel system on hd2 isn`t all that different from the hd mini

Well. We're all looking forward to see a genious hacker who cares about the hd mini and android. =)

Don't know if it will work but you guys could give it a try cause it runs via haret:
w w w _dot_ neopeek.com/en/stories/android/75-update-android-fuer-htc-blackstone-diamond-tilt-raphael-rhodium-topaz-fuze
@XDA-Mods: after months of waiting! when will you update my account?

Anything else besides android that you guys might want??? how about some cookies along with it? lol if you wanted android why did you bought a windows mobile based device?? cause of haret? if you want android on your hd2 mini, yould need a working linux kernel, then you can worry about android, and its not that easy im not going over this again im tired of explaining to noobs that android is not a a program that you can simply install...it dosnt work that way.

rafyvitto said:
Anything else besides android that you guys might want???
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Android would be just enough

ATT HTC ARIA -- a dead ringer for HD MINI but with ANDROID?
Does this mean an android rom won't be too far off?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-aria-goes-official-for-atandt-gets-toyed-with-on-video/

nickel911 said:
Does this mean an android rom won't be too far off?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-aria-goes-official-for-atandt-gets-toyed-with-on-video/
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No , them are different
Want android for hd mini , we need use Haret, not just port rom aria to hd mini

haret for hd photon exist ?

SoftWord said:
haret for hd photon exist ?
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Not yet i think, but i will get my touch in it soon
This week a bit busy
Tom

core of haret is a file called setup.txt where are stored parameters with rom/ram addresses, only thing to do is know this addresses.........

I hate you. Htc!
I have great news for all you people living in the US: Like the evo 4g with sprint(android version of hd2). At&t have released the htc aria, a true android clone of the hd mini. Just google it for more info.

Yes and, unfortunately for us, HTC Aria will be, and nowadays is, available only for USA market...
I want it in Italy!!!!!! Or maybe... someone which could "do" a complete Android ROM for the HD Mini, based on the Aria!?!?!? I wish it! I really want it...!
Because HD Mini is so pocketlly beautiful!!!!

its a company fault
we have went to market to get it and it was WM and now they have released HD Mini with Anderiod ,
so it is who's fault,
i hope anyone can give info how to get the rom of android for our hd mini (old) one