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My htc magic is almost dead

Hey all i have just bought me an HTC magic..
after few days i was made the updates so it was rooted..
and then i saw the hero also was running on some magics..
so i started to make the neccesary things to do it..
But something went wrong...
my phone booting up...
but just hangs in the HTC magic logo
Maybe a wrong SPL , Recovery or Radio..
im new to this... so maybe i have misunderstood something..
As for now i can only do a few things for it..
1. if i plug my usb cable to it when the phones boots up nothing happends
but if i plug it in - while im in the 2 menus home+power and the back+power it found something... both xp and vista popped up found
Android 1.0" but no drivers seem to work...
but why is it a android 1.0 and not the normal 1.5
so i think something is been changed to older stuff.
my phone is not recognized in the adb devices
in my Android System Recovery utility
i only have 3 choices , when i rooted the phone when it worked i have a few more points
reboot system
apply sdcard:update.zip
wipe data/factory reset
and the error E:can't open /cache/recovery/command
when i use the apply function after i have dropped a update.zip file in my sd card i got this
Install from sdcard
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
Verifying update package...
E:No sognature (5files)
E:Verification failed
Installation Aborted.
the only info i can give you about the phone is from the other menu
Sapphire PVT32A ship s-on h
Hboot-1.33.0009 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
Radio-3.22.20.17
may 8 2009
Sorry if i not posted this thread the right place..
Thx for all the help i can get and a Great forum..
Gr8's Showbizz

not bricked yet, but please do not do anything anymore..
refer to the right thread bout getting ur SINGNATURE OFF bootloader, and then reflash with workable update.zip..
sorry... i knew the steps only on vodafone magic...
get some guys with htc magic to helps u..

I have the Vodafone magic and is having the same issue as the other guy, what are the steps to get the signature off for vodafone magic? thank you

What process/guide did you guys use for rooting? The modded recovery images work with the test keys, which most update.zips on the forums are signed with.

just share my experience with you.
I have the same SPL, and rooted without problem based on the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530527, and then got bricked after flashing modd spl2004, not sure if i should use spl2005 or should flash spl BEFORE rooting? anybody would like to share your experience? thanks
anyway, will get back my htc magic in 5 days... will try again

probably you flashed a "B" rom instead of an "A". There is a thread listing all compatible "A" Roms. Now: Take out the SD Card and plug it into a PC. Delete the Update.zip from the SD Card and replace it with one from the thread. Flash this Update and AFAIK your done.
I had the same problem and tried to overwrite the update zip using ADB Push. However this did not work. I had to delete and replace via PC.
Hope this helps.
Regards
-f

Download recovery-RAv1.0G.img here.
$fastboot boot recovery-RAv1.0G.img
apply update (make sure the update.zip is one for Google branded Magics, so 32A boards).

Thanks, i finally got this to work...
I dont like the 1.3 version tho, it always shows HTC screen and then "Loading..." for a minute or two everytime i press home button.
The 1.2 version don't

[HOW TO] Getting OTA updates working again...

Hi guys,
I've searched the forums and I can't find a solution for a problem I'm having. I have successfully rooted and played around with different flavors of Hero ROM's and optimized kernels. But, I would like to revert back to the original Vodafone UK ROM (I have a nandroid backup of it, done right after rooting the device). I have restored the ROM but for some reason, OTA updates never install. The ROM I have backup'ed is CRB17 and I know the latest is CRC1. Using the System updates menu in Android, I download the update, but it doesn't install, it says that I need to reboot, which I do and nothing happens.
How can I get the original unrooted: HBOOT-1.33.0004 (SAPP10000) : Sapphire PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G : CPLD-10 (Voldafone NL + UK + Australia)? I have a friend that hasn't rooted his Magic, how can I get his SPL?
So far, what I've done:
- installed Engineering SPL HBOOT-1.33.2004 Signed update.zip and restored the original recovery for Sapphire that Haykuro has around (when I nandroided my original ROM, I had already put in the Cyanogen's recovery tool...) - OTA doesn't work.
- installed Modded HBOOT-1.33.2004 by Crios Signed update.zip and restored the original recovery for Sapphire that Haykuro has around - OTA doesn't work.
Another thing I noticed is that although people say that with Crios SPL, I should be able to do the OTA updates, I can't!
Also, the SPL description says "Sapphire PVT 32B SHIP S-OFF H : CPLD-10", and my original description should be "Sapphire PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G : CPLD-10".
Has anyone been able to make OTA updates working again?
Thanks for your help in this matter, I feel like I've tested everything :\
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EDIT:
OK guys, just got my OTA updates back. You should thank RubenFreitas for the dump of his "virgin" HTC Magic Vodafone UK. This is a 32B device, unrooted, which means you can do OTA's again.
How to restore your device to OTA abilities:
- first you need to put Crios SPL (2004/2005) with S-OFF on your device. (look for instructions on the forum, search for "magic hboot spl").
- fastboot into Amon_RA recovery tool. (fastboot boot recovery.img)
- make a backup of your current rom (don't worry, this is just for getting the file structure into the sdcard).
- After it finishes, reboot your device and mount your sdcard.
- In your sdcard, you'll find a "nandroid" folder, open it, until you see boot.img, etc.
- replace the files with the ones on the file here: www.dymsoft.com/rubenfreitas_Vodafone_UK_ORIGINAL.zip
- fastboot again into Amon_RA recovery tool
- recover your backup (which will now be the original ROM from vodafone).
- reboot and enjoy your OTA again
If for any reason, nandroid restoring doesn't work (your phone does not boot after 15 minutes), you can restore the backup manually in fastboot mode:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash userdata data.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot reboot

I have exactly the same question!

Just 1 question, why do you desperately want OTA updates?
I mean anything we get on here is likely to be one step ahead of any update our carriers give us, even if we do miss out on something good when it's sent out someone will pick it up on here pretty quickly and pull it apart to make sure we dont miss out.
Just my thoughts, I really wouldn't worry.

It's just the idea that I can't get my device working for 100% again that makes me crazy

Going back to the standard rom is hardly working 100% ..

xyzulu said:
Going back to the standard rom is hardly working 100% ..
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Smartass ... but still nothing on how to fix this?

Roy_Drage said:
Just 1 question, why do you desperately want OTA updates?
I mean anything we get on here is likely to be one step ahead of any update our carriers give us, even if we do miss out on something good when it's sent out someone will pick it up on here pretty quickly and pull it apart to make sure we dont miss out.
Just my thoughts, I really wouldn't worry.
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The only reason I want OTA working again is for getting "Donut" update automatically when it comes out, rather than having to wait for it to be available here.
From what I can gather, we can only have OTA if the Magic is unrooted, am I right? According to Crios posts, I should be able to do the OTA updates, but his SPL is for HTC devices, and I have a Google one, although it works fine on my Google. Just the OTA doesn't work.
Anyone knows how to dump the original SPL from an HTC Magic that hasn't been rooted?

dferreira said:
The only reason I want OTA working again is for getting "Donut" update automatically when it comes out, rather than having to wait for it to be available here.
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I'm sure once it's out it won't be long before it's available on here. Wouldn't surprise me if it was posted here the same day.

Malky1903 said:
I'm sure once it's out it won't be long before it's available on here. Wouldn't surprise me if it was posted here the same day.
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Wouldn't suprise me if we had it here before!!
I mean they already have the code for most of it anyways. From what I've seen and tried of donut it doesn't even look that great! Possible mulit-touch, well they will mange to pull that out and stick it in a cyanogen rom or something, and a widget for the home screen allowing you to toggle things like wifi etc....
You can get those anywhere off the market, check the widgets on jerpeleas cyanogen rom page. They are really nice.
Read this, doesn't even sound like Donut is going to be version 2.0 of android, more like 1.7 or something:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/26/android-team-member-says-donut-isnt-2-0-doesnt-have-multitouc/

To me that really doesn't matter! I just want the possibility to restore my Magic to factory settings with OTA updates!

same question here. Snappiness of the vodafone original rom is the best so far. Have tried all different roms. Problem is, there is an update available i can download it but it wont install.

Still no-one who can fix this? Come on, please... I'm sure you genius' can help us out!

i think i shall be ok haven't peremantly flashed anything no spl updates back to stock vodafone uk rom. only thing i did install was a few hero builds so hopfully ive done no damage to my phone

Imho un-rooting the phone should do the trick, but how can that be done? There are a couple of manuals for the Dream, but they ain't working for the Sapphire.

Can someone please upload the original SPL from Vodafone (NL/UK/AUS)? I'm pretty sure that if we can put that one back on our Magic's, we have our OTA Updates back!
It would be appreciated very much!

Tomorrow I have a friend that has a "virgin" HTC Magic from Vodafone UK I'll try to get his "virgin" SPL and boot and everything.
I found out how we can dump it all into .img files (what nandroid uses). Hopefully, it should get us back OTA updates!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4035680#post4035680

That would be awesome! Great!

Hi DFerreira.... did you manage to get the original SPL?

Not yet... my friend couldn't come to my place. I'll try to catch up with him tomorrow.

I also have an untouched magic here (dutch one from my gf). I just dont know what to do

Is there no hope for 1.6 users on a UK voda magic?

Hi folks.
I am desperate to get Cyanogens mod on my phone but I can't downgrade to 1.5 because i'm on 1.6 with a UK vodafone Magic (32B).
Any chance a serious andoid expert could step in and tell me:
Will there be a new image made to fix this issue?
is there a method I will understand? It says on the Cyanogen Wiki that there has been "some success" with my version but I can't find where it says how to downgrade for my version
I keep hearing about gold card or summink but i'm a noob and I don't have the foggiest idea where to start.
Please help!! and try to make your responses understandable

Dont worry...
Hi there
I think is possible what you're trying to do, but in order to change your rom you don't need downgrading nowadays (HTC are not PSPs, hehe).
I have a magic from Vodafone ES, and what you have to do first is check your model, can be 32A (HTC) or 32B (Vodafone, less ram in cell phone), so you'll probably have 32B like me.
After this, you need Android SDK and drivers to connect your device usb, load a modified SPL via ADB/fastboot (there's a thread in the forum with the HBOOT collection, you need one of those in your cell in order to change the rom).
Summarizing:
1. check if 32B
2. get Android SDK to use the commands fastboot/ADB
3. replace SPL
4. continue with the cyano's wiki
I followed this: http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=74683 (sorry is in spanish and a bit outdated, but the apps you need like the SDK are in there, and you have some screenshots, you can skip the root part since cyano's mod is rooted already).
About the goldcard method, I dont know because mine hadn't had perfect SPL, I only had trouble with the usb driver, and downloaded HTC sync (look for it on google if you need) and adb/fastboot detected my device.
A good idea is to install a recovery image once you change your SPL, I personally recommend Amon_RA's recovery 1.5.2.
Last but not least, these explanations are the basics, I know it sounds like chinese to you but read more posts in the forum, there's a cyanogen flashing guide as well, with all the information and these steps you'll do fine.
Hope you'll succeed, let me know your issues

I do understand reasonably well but you cannot use the guide on here with a UK magic as the SAPPH.img file or whatever has an incorrect ID. it's at this point the process cannot be completed.
Thanks so much for your lengthy reply but in this case I believe my phone is unique and the problem cannot be be as easily resolved as you suggest. I must downgrade to 1.5.
Are any of the extreme android geeks able to shed light on this?

I can shed light on you as I have a Vodafone HTC Magic 32B. I used the instructions at the link below and got my phone back to Cupcake, but oddly enough I used the MyTouch instructions and searched online for a suitable sappimg.nbh file as the one they provided didn't work for me. Now I am running Qteknology MagicSense Hero ROM with working LEDs. Forget about ADB, SDK and the Goldcard method... I am sure you want the simplest way to unroot so you can get back to 1.5 and the reroot to whatever you like. Here it is: http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/15/how-to-root-a-donut-phone-android-1-6/

This is great news but I have tried that method with the sappimg.nbh and it says incorrect ID every time.
Are you using a UK vodafone magic then? If so, where did you find a SAPPIMG that worked?
Please try and remember!

It doesn't matter that your phone is a UK Vodafone Magic.. if you google sappimg.nbh and download a few until you get the one you need you will have your phone reverted back to it original state... ready to root. If you stop your search after one attempt you will not have done all you needed to do. You don't have to know any codes or get another SD card.. just put some effort into it from your computer. Google is your friend.

but being a bit of a noob to all this, surely trying sappimg files at random might risk bricking my phone? I heard there was a good sappimg for all but my version of the phone which is why I mentioned it.
Maybe someone on here has a sappimg known to work with my phone?
But yes, i'm off to do some intense googling.
Thanks

Hi
I have a UK Voda Magic and I followed this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=579328 and worked perfectly for me

It truly is lovely of you all to try and help and I appreciate it but I suspect you have not read my comments properly.
Those of you that have commented here were only able to get it to work because you were flashing from/rooting from a 1.5 cupcake build. Once the OTA 1.6 donut update is on a UK magic it cannot be downgraded and so all comments thus far are superfluous. contrary to other comments it is necessary to flash SAPPIMG.nbh first and this does not work on my phone - incorrect CID.
Is there anyone on here that can help with MY issue?
Thanks.

Strange, because I have no issues flashing UK Voda 1.6 phones, just fastboot and use ADB to load recovery image, then flash whatever 32B ROM I like (Dwangs 1.17.1 is great). I did a work collegues before Christmas and his phone had never been modified, only received the OTA update from 1.5 to 1.6 around October time.

I'm on it. That's the way I used to flash roms back when i first got my magic. Now i've been thrown by all the simple guides to put cyanogen and I thought the sappimg method was the only way. I'll just download the sdk and get on my merry way

I don't understand what the issue is? I have a UK vodafone 32B and have been flitting between CM's mods, Hero mods backwards and forwards with no issues whatsoever?
I'm on CM's latest right now (well, a few back now 4.2.11 latest), just followed the instructions and it worked....?

I certainly did read your OP correctly and I also was on 1.6 when I followed the link I posted. In that link it has instructions on how to do it if you are on 1.5 OR 1.6

Started out with 1.5 Vodafone UK Magic which i've flashed many times using the fastboot boot cm-recovery-1.4.img method.
At one time i went back to stock 1.5 but let it update itself (OTA) to 1.6. Since then i've continued to flash new ROMs without problem.

Alfieg said:
but being a bit of a noob to all this, surely trying sappimg files at random might risk bricking my phone? I heard there was a good sappimg for all but my version of the phone which is why I mentioned it.
Maybe someone on here has a sappimg known to work with my phone?
But yes, i'm off to do some intense googling.
Thanks
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hi alfieg
ive vodafone magic 32B with donut and perfect SPL, in present day, I tried all the guides and methods in many forums, without success, for example, if you follow the guide in wiki cyano, already the first step there are problems, how I try to update with sappimg. (cupcake 1.5) as the ends' update writes "main version is older," "update failed "... if you do not then a way to get cupcake is impossible to have root on magic 32b with donut and Perfect spl ....
Indeed in the wiki says, if you have donut Downgrading to 1.5 FAILED: HTC Magic Vodafone ES (Spain) (32B) Official 1.6 updated OTA "
wait a few geek we solve the problem ...

I don't see what the problem is. You should have been reverted back to 1.5 and flashing new ROMs. The instructions are simple.. someone else has done all the hard work.. all you have to do is download a file and hold your phone.

blackvyper said:
I don't see what the problem is. You should have been reverted back to 1.5 and flashing new ROMs. The instructions are simple.. someone else has done all the hard work.. all you have to do is download a file and hold your phone.
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download a file, to make what? If you can not root for real?

Will you lot please listen to me!
There are two methods reccommended:
1) Flash the SAPPIMG.nbh to downgrade back to 1.5 - this does not work on a UK magic on vodafone 32B at all! It reports Invalid CID, update failed!
2) use the fastboot boot cm-recovery-1.4.img via the SDK - This does not work on my phone! - I have the device listed when I use "adb devices" so the drivers are ok but it hangs at <Waiting for device> when i try to fastboot boot cm-recovery-1.4.img!!!!!! No ammount of killing the server and remounting as per the cyano instructions works!!!!! in fact, it wont let me remount (Operation not permitted)!!!
If you don't understand please don't post. People who have not updated to 1.6 OTA and people who don't have a UK voda 32B - stop posting here.
Grrrr

No need to downgrade
Alfieg said:
Hi folks.
I am desperate to get Cyanogens mod on my phone but I can't downgrade to 1.5 because i'm on 1.6 with a UK vodafone Magic (32B).
Any chance a serious andoid expert could step in and tell me:
Will there be a new image made to fix this issue?
is there a method I will understand? It says on the Cyanogen Wiki that there has been "some success" with my version but I can't find where it says how to downgrade for my version
I keep hearing about gold card or summink but i'm a noob and I don't have the foggiest idea where to start.
Please help!! and try to make your responses understandable
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I have a New Zealand Vodafone Magic 32B and they share the same Hboot 1.33.0004 (SAPP10000) SPL with the UK (and NL and AU) vodafone phones. That means they are VERY easy to load alternate ROMs onto. The horrible stuff many Americans and others have to go through to root their phones isn't required for us.
You do need to get the Android SDK installed and talking properly to your phone.
Assuming you have the SDK set up and you can see your USB-connected phone listed when you enter the "adb devices" command, then the rest should be easy. See the Cyanogen Mod wiki for the details. You want the section on "non-Tmobile 32B magics" on this page:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_MT3G/Magic_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod
It starts with:
"Non-TMobile 32B Magics
If the above doesn't work for you, don't despair. Some non-US Magics are shipped with a fastboot compatible SPL installed. If you see 3 skateboarding androids when you boot to fastboot, you should be able to do the following:"
..............
This is the part you want to pay attention to, assuming you have the SDK installed properly. Our phones are actually MUCH easier to load others ROM on because we have those fastboot-enabled SPLs already in place and this is the first, BEST way for us to do it.
Whatever you do, do NOT flash the "Danger SPL". There is no need to for an HTC Magic with the Hboot 1.33.0004 (SAPP10000) SPL.
If you're hopelessly lost at this point, seek hands-on local help. You don't know enough to do this by yourself without risking screwing up. if no one can help you, then take your time. Learn the stuff you need to know....Being in a hurry is a great way to go wrong. I spent 3 months reading and thinking about it before I loaded my first ROM. Much of the advice is for the Dream / G1 or locked MyTouch3G or Magic 32B phone from telcos who lock them....and simply isn't relevant for the HTC Magic 32B from Vodafone. the single section I'm pointing you to above is all we need to get it done.
Finally, here is my own "simple guide" for getting loading alternate ROMs on a Vodafone HTC Magic 32B. This is about OUR phone...and should work if you work your way through it.
http://truthseekernz.blogspot.com/2009/11/simple-guide-to-loading-new-roms-on.html
You don't need to worry about "gold cards" and all that stuff. You'll be flashing an already rooted ROM and you will have backed up your un-rooted original load with "nandroid" before you change ANYTHING. That backup is your path back to the way your phone was before you rooted it by flashing an already rooted system ROM. in loading ROMs like Cyanogen's you're not baking a cake, you're buying one....so you don't need to know how to make one, you just need to know where to get one and how to serve it....if that analogy makes sense.
Simply, you start by: fastboot boot RA-recovery-1.5.2G.img:
Then, from the recovery menu of functions you do these steps:
1. Backup (nandroid)
2. Wipe system / data
3. Wipe cache
4. flash from any zip on sdcard (the one you want to flash today, you may have put several different ROM images in /sdcard)
5. reboot to brave new world.
6. Make a backup copy on your PC of the /sdcard/nandroid folder on your sdcard so you won't lose it accidentally if your sdcard is corrupted, lost or stolen.
Done.
To save time and let you backup / flash ROMs anywhere you happen to be standing, you can flash Amon-RA's recovery onto your phone or you can load it via fastboot every time and leave the default recovery in place. The very first nandroid backup you made will have backed up the factory recovery image as well as the factory system image as they were at the time you backed them up. So they can be restored if you want to at some point update them with an OTA update. I suspect Vodafone / HTC will be rolling out an Android 2.0 / 2.1 update to Magic phones at some point. If they don't that would be a black mark against them....something to remember when thinking about buying any future phone from anyone: "WILL THEY SUPPORT IT FOR THE SAME 2 YEARS YOU'VE SIGNED UP FOR".
If the answer isn't YES......then that's worth remembering. Vodafone / HTC's record so far is good. The last OTA update was barely 3 months ago.

Alfieg said:
Will you lot please listen to me!
There are two methods reccommended:
1) Flash the SAPPIMG.nbh to downgrade back to 1.5 - this does not work on a UK magic on vodafone 32B at all! It reports Invalid CID, update failed!
2) use the fastboot boot cm-recovery-1.4.img via the SDK - This does not work on my phone! - I have the device listed when I use "adb devices" so the drivers are ok but it hangs at <Waiting for device> when i try to fastboot boot cm-recovery-1.4.img!!!!!! No ammount of killing the server and remounting as per the cyano instructions works!!!!! in fact, it wont let me remount (Operation not permitted)!!!
If you don't understand please don't post. People who have not updated to 1.6 OTA and people who don't have a UK voda 32B - stop posting here.
Grrrr
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Get latest version of fastboot binary. I had problems with original one and htc magic. Drop fastboot.exe into the sdk tools folder.
Reboot your phone holding back and power simultaneously.
Then plug usb cable.
in Dos prompt go to sdk tools folder and type "fastboot devices"
if your device is listed you are good to go.
then "fastboot boot cm-recovery-1.4.img"

Vodafone UK Magic/Sapphire 32B downgrading issues.

Hello people!
I've been pulling my hair out over my HTC Magic. I want to end up on the Fatal1ty ROM if possible but I have read that I need to downgrade. Through browsing loads of forums and wikis I have followed the unlockr.com guides and some on here, but it always boils down to the same problem.
I thought the easiest way would be to downgrade, so i have used numourous different SAPP... files that were supposed to be the origional Vodafone UK ones to try and boot it into it. When I do, i either get a "Model ID Incorrect" or "CID Error".
I know there are a few people around looking for this solution and if somebody could help me out i know many more will appreciate it.
Thanks guys

Just to update you - tried the Relentless Rooter and had "Update Failed".
cheers

If you get "Model ID incorrect" than you are using the wrong sappimg. If you get a "CID Error" than you need a Goldcard. Search for it!

just a quick question - why the ROM? There are plenty of more up to date ones? HAve you looked over at the XDA/Dream section? That's where the 32B ROMs are. Much more development there.

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just a quick question - why the ROM? There are plenty of more up to date ones? HAve you looked over at the XDA/Dream section? That's where the 32B ROMs are. Much more development there.
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Yeah, spent alot of time in the sapphire forum when all the action was in the dream forum.
Also have a look at cyangenmod wiki, that gives a breakdown of how to root 32b magics on 1.6. Also there are no sapp.img for 32b dream as its a google branded device.

http://www.4shared.com/file/140328204/7adda3ff/HTC_Magic_32B_Vodafone_UK_nand.html?s=1

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http://www.4shared.com/file/140328204/7adda3ff/HTC_Magic_32B_Vodafone_UK_nand.html?s=1
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Thanks for the info. One more question.
How do I do a nandroid restore with that rar file on a not rooted magic.
Really appreciate your help, thank you.

do a nandroid backup. restart phone. mount sd card and copy contents of nandroid backup to your pc. delete contents of nandroid\ht...\cdb...\ from sd card and replace the 7 files, urar them first from the download, into that folder. boot again with amon_ra recovery and restore last backup. Thats it.

Thanks. Sorry for been a complete no(o)b but what's the quick way to do the nandroid backup/restore. Do I use fastboot then use the command prompt with Google sdk installed?

Hi guys.
Just managed to try and do the NANDroid backup and restore but as I try to send the boot.img to the phone I get error: "Sending boot.img.... FAILED (remote: not allow)
I read up on this and it's apparently erroring because its rooted. It seems a real vicous circle!
How can I root???!?! or downgrade. - I have tried many tutorials but cant get the SAPPING.... to work as I get an error at the end of the cycle.
Thanks

What version of android are you running? Your SPL will not allow you to boot using fastboot, as you have a Perfect SPL, you will need to use the goldcard method unless you are running Android 1.5, in which case you can use recovery flasher to flash cyanogen's rom and then flash a different SPL.

UK vodafone 32b 1.33.0007 same issue
I too feel your pain! Has anyone actually achieved this with this phone:
sapphire unknown 32b ship s-on g
hboot-1.33.0007 (sapp100000)
cpld-10
radio-2.22.19.261
jul 31 2009 15:49:25
Andriod version 1.6
I dont believe 1.33.0007 is a perfected spl as it is not stated as one in the sapphire hacking page.
The downgrade option suggested by unlockr does not work with this version as you get a wrong model id error when trying to downgrade to cupcake, meaning the only route left is the goldcard route.
I have followed all the points to the tee (3 times!) and keep getting the same error I am using a kingston 2GB I have got the reverse CID and been emailed my goldcard.img (3 times – all the same)in HxD, when I copy the offset 00000000 to 00000170 from the img to my sd card and save it shows as being identical to the img file (from offset 00000000 to 00000170) I can open and browse it on the PC fine.
When I copy sappimg.zip onto it to try and flash the phone returns the same error (wrong image etc) each time. The weird bit is that when I put that kingston sd card back into HxD to check everything there are differences in offset 00000000 to 00000170 – only a couple of charecters wrong, but wrong nonetheless. I am assumming this is why I cannot load the sappimg.zip but I cannot find out why my goldcard will not stay as I saved it even when using a proven card.
If anyone has done this we would be very appreciative of any help.
Ive only lost 7 hours of my life on this so far - not half as much as I lost trying to install a custom ROM on my TYTN2 - but every day is precious!

**SOLVED** Consolidated Info to HOPEFULLY Root Rogers 3.05.631.7 ROM-updating via RUU

(If ROM installed via official HTC RUU- RUU_Sapphire_Rogers_WWE_3.05.631.7_R_release_signed_NoDriver.exe)
UPDATE!! **SOLVED** April 25, 2010
Download new RUU
http://www.multiupload.com/XQEH9NVGY7
Flash with Goldcard method http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/
1. Download RUU linked above.
2. Install update using RUU.
3. Turn on phone and connect to computer.
4. Get RA recovery and SPL also linked above and drop them to sdcard root directory.
5. Run SDK: adb shell
6. Install recovery: flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery-RA-hero-v1.6.2.img http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561124
6. Turn off phone and turn on again holding Power+Home. RA Recovery should appear.
7. Flash zip from sdcard.
8. Use file: update-hboot-1762007-signed
9. Done. PSPL broken.
10. Build a shrine for orange_24
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**Not Successfully Rooted: Feb. 2, 2010 (AFAIK)
I decided to start this thread because the info for again obtaining root, for those of us dumb enough to update to the official Rogers ROM 3.05.631.7 via the RUU, is all over the place in about a million different threads. My hope is that we can organize it all in 1 place.
At this point, yes, we all know we were impatient and newbs and everything else. Ok, lesson learned. So, lets move forward and try to get this thing rooted.
If you are a developer who has the talent to help root this ROM and have lost interest in the Magic or moved on to the Nexus One or Droid, we ask that you please try to spend a few moments on this and help out those of us who are really stuck here. Personally, I'm getting pretty desperate and thinking of even replacing the phone.
Please post what you've tried in attempting to again obtain root, your failures and hopefully successes.
*One Click Root: http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/29/how-to-root-the-htc-magic-in-one-click/ Cant' back up Recovery.img Error(Tried clicking the hidden Star next to "Back Up Recovery" and skipping this step...and just flashing recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.5.2H.img. Didn't work either) Tried with Amon_RA Hero recovery.img also, without success.
*Tried downgrading to Rogers' last official ROM via the RUU for (Rogers)_RUU_Sapphire_Rogers_WWE_2.17.631.2_release_signed_NoDriver.exe RUU would not let me proceed because the ROM was older than the one installed. Attempted several times both with and without a goldcard installed.
*ADB: Will see the device, initially, but a command of "adb remount" kills the connect. same with "adb root" **EDIT
*Fastboot: Error- Does not allow access
*Relentless Rooter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556200 No luck obtaining root
*Fix Perfect SPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218&highlight=create+gold+card With one GoldCard getting Update Fail error that SAPPIMG is older than one installed. When trying the other GC, get Update Fail Error that Model ID is incorrect. Tried 2 different micro sd cards, one Sandisk and one Patriot. The card was recognized by my pc after I was done creating the GoldCard, so unless I'm doing something wrong the GC was created properly. Is the goldcard.img supposed to dissapear or remain on the card after your copy/paste write/save to the sd card disk?
* Tried RUU for RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Europe_3.04.401.2_HTC_AT_test_signed_NoDriver.exe http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625108 RUU would not let me proceed because the ROM was older than the one installed or Device ID was wrong. Attempted several times both with and without a goldcard installed.
*Tried RUU for RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Europe_3.05.401.3_release_signed_NoDriver.exe http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621415 RUU would not let me proceed because the ROM was older than the one installed or Device ID was wrong. Attempted several times both with and without a goldcard installed.
*Tried RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Asia_WWE_2.53.707.2_SEA_test_signed_NoDriver.exe RUU would not let me proceed because the ROM was older than the one installed or Device ID was wrong. Attempted several times both with and without a goldcard installed.
I've probably tried a few more methods to obtain root. Those were all fails, too. I'll post the links, as well, when I find them again.
Hopefully this thread will lead us all in the right direction.
Here is the link to the same topic in the HTC Dream Forum-in case they find out something that might help us out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625732

i guess its time to play doctor with my new phone from rogers and swap the board from my old one.....

considering nothing works, i think any new idea would be a good idea

novadoc said:
considering nothing works, i think any new idea would be a good idea
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like i said my idea was to swap my old motherboard into the new phone

you can give it a shot
but personally, unless you know exactly what your getting into, i wouldn't mess with the hardware

novadoc said:
you can give it a shot
but personally, unless you know exactly what your getting into, i wouldn't mess with the hardware
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i already did it lol im more of a hardware then software

I know it might be nothing but when the Rogers RUU unpacks the img file loads as sappdimg and not sappimg. I don't know if the extra d in there means anything or if its something that shows up later.

I also try every method above and not luck also...

is there a possible way of tricking the system... with a higher build number and SPL with a custom installation from files that I see from one of the post where rogers send the user some files because they were running Win7?

I think that's the problem
We have the highest spl# and its perfected
So until someone gets their hands on a higher version than ours that is imperfect or engineering...
We are SOL, although I am hopeful someone is working on this for us.

shael said:
i already did it lol im more of a hardware then software
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Did it work?

I have an Rogers HTC Magic and I didn't apply any update from Rogers since I bought it on June 2nd.
It's very strange that "adb devices" doesn't see the device?
have you enable the "USB debugging" ?
That part should work (when the devices is started).

novadoc said:
Did it work?
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pfft ya ofcourse it worked... i have my older motherboard with my old rom and my old info all i did was swap the screen and case.... done deal... 5 min job lol

Would someone please report the radio and SPL versions (for the result of the 3.05.631.7 update)?

feisty_noodle said:
would someone please report the radio and spl versions (for the result of the 3.05.631.7 update)?
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apphire pvt 32a ship s-on h
hboot-1.76.0010 (sapp50000)
cpld-12
radio-6.35.10.18

feisty_noodle said:
would someone please report the radio and spl versions (for the result of the 3.05.631.7 update)?
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apphire pvt 32a ship s-on h
hboot-1.76.0010 (sapp50000)
cpld-12
radio-6.35.10.18

Well, until it gets cracked, here's something that will make you feel a little better about being stuck on this ROM.
Google Search by Voice, installable .apk from Euro Android Market. Just run the installer through Astro, etc., and G Search by Voice is back on the Search button of your phone. You might need to launch the app first via the icon in the app tray, then reboot the phone to make the search button recognize its there. But it will be there.
http://www.eclosion-android.com/com.google.android.voicesearch.apk
BTW, not my link in case mods want to get involved.
Enjoy!

i think the first step would be to getting ADB working again
any ideas?

novadoc said:
i think the first step would be to getting ADB working again
any ideas?
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I can used adb devices to see my connected htc magic.... but other function permission not allow...

Is this thread in the Dream Forum a path to follow to try, or just a good way to brick your Magic? I haven't fully read through it to see if this is to keep root, if you already have it and flash the Rogers Dream ROM for data/ or to regain root if you flashed the official Rogers RUU with a Dream. The post says should work on all Rogers phones, but i feel a brick coming on for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5480955&postcount=416