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Hi all
Using instructions from here:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_MT3G/Magic_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod
To downgrade my Vodafone UK 32B Magic from 1.6 to 1.5 but after trying to HBOOT with the SAPPIMG.nbh provided, it gets so far then fails saying 'Model ID Incorrect'.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks in advance
Do u formatt your sdcard in FAT32 full mod? Not quick format!
fabioccoelho said:
Do u formatt your sdcard in FAT32 full mod? Not quick format!
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Yes I did. And just to be certain i've just done it again and I get the same error. It looks like it is doing it, then it says something like 'Checking signature' then the error comes up.
Do you put the sappimg.nbh in root of sdcard? Not in folder.
Yes, it finds the file. It is the only file on my SD card, not in a folder. It asks if I want to continue. Blue progress bar appears in the top right of the screen, it goes all the way (takes about 1-2 mins) then the message 'Model ID Incorrect' appears.
Man... try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547133
Hmmm. The reason I went to for http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_MT3G/Magic_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod as a set of instructions is it was all on one page, looked fairly simple and it was recommended by someone with the same phone as me.
The other link looks complicated and I haven't got a clue what it does.
Maybe you need create a Goldcard, and the other link can help you make this.
I think. It´s a tip.
Anyone got any further on how to downgrade 1.6 to 1.5 on a Vodafone 32B Magic without using the Goldcard method?
I'm suffering the same problem, is this problem documented anywhere else and apart from the GoldCard method are there any other solutions?
Hey guys I'm new to this android hacking scene but I've finally managed to do it after doing near enough everything the wrong way lol
I am also using the vodafone 32b UK phone (well its my sisters really ) and I also used the same 'CyanogenMod' guide to do what I wanted (root/custom roms at last!)
Before i go any further though... are you all wanting to downgrade to simply install custom roms etc.. or is it for different reasons?
If its for different reasons then I have no idea on how to downgrade but for the other thing then I can probably help you out! I won't waste my time typing it out yet though if its not what is needed..
Hi, yes I want to downgrade so I can install custom ROMs.
I too had this problem with a Vodafone UK 32B Magic trying the "Downgrading from 1.6 TO 1.5 and Rooting for T-Mobile MT3G" method.
But when I tried the alternative "Non-TMobile 32B Magics" method at that link, in other words using the Android SDK & fastboot to boot the cm-recovery-1.4, that worked like a dream.
So I didn't need to go the goldcard route.
This is good news sandersw.
Where is the easiest step by step for the method you suggest?
sandersw said:
I too had this problem with a Vodafone UK 32B Magic trying the "Downgrading from 1.6 TO 1.5 and Rooting for T-Mobile MT3G" method.
But when I tried the alternative "Non-TMobile 32B Magics" method at that link, in other words using the Android SDK & fastboot to boot the cm-recovery-1.4, that worked like a dream.
So I didn't need to go the goldcard route.
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Brilliant news!
I tried "Non-TMobile 32B Magics" and at Installation: (5) it wrote fastboot remote: not allow . suggestion? please
I have
SAPPHIRE unknown 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT- 1.33.0007 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO- 2.22.19.26I
JUL 31 2009, 15:49:25
Okay my phones info is as follows:
UK Vodafone running Donut 1.6
Code:
SAPPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0007 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.261
Jul 31 2009, 15:49:25
Now is this or is this not a perfected SPL "1.33.0007" as I cant do jack with it nor can I get any computer to recognize it when it's in fastboot connected to a PC...*sigh* (although it will when it's turned on)
Now assuming the above is correct and it is a perfected spl will the below work:
Step 1
Flash the phone with the 32A ROM v2.53.707.2 (Engineerings SPL v1.33.2010) this being a higher rom version than my own from Amon_RA's thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218)
Step 2
Change the radio (any recommendations?) back to that of a 32B HTC Magic device and install CyanogenMod using the info again from a different Amon_RA thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4314039&postcount=1)
Step 3
Sit back and bathe in the glory of my finally rooted HTC Magic?
Thanks in advance for any and all help even if it's just a quick reply to tell me I'm off my trolley and it's a sure fire way to brick my phone
Has anyone managed to get anywhere with this hardware. I have exactly the same version of hardware and have not been able to get it to connect to the pc in fastboot.
I would imagine that a lot of people are in the same position, with the same hardware so could someone point us in the right direction please.
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Now is this or is this not a perfected SPL "1.33.0007" as I cant do jack with it nor can I get any computer to recognize it when it's in fastboot connected to a PC...*sigh* (although it will when it's turned on)
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Yes, 1.33.0007 is a perfected SPL, but nevertheless you should get fastboot to recognize your phone. Did you properly install the Android SDK USB drivers?
Thanks in advance for any and all help even if it's just a quick reply to tell me I'm off my trolley and it's a sure fire way to brick my phone
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I had the same perfected SPL on my 32B but (luckily) with Android 1.5 CRC24.
I think it should work if you flash a "official" vodafone 1.5 CRC24 1.33.0007 image, then install flashrec on Android, change the recovery Image, boot into recovery mode and flash an engineering spl. Thats basically what I did, except for the downgrade to 1.5.
AFAIK on 1.33.0007 you should be able to downgrade without a goldcard.
Same Version
Hello everybody,
i have the same phone with the same SPL, too.
My Problem is when i try to flash the sappimg.zip with the POWER on and Volume down methode, everything wents fine.
But after reading the Update File i end up with an error like:
"Main Version is older".
Don't know what to do...
Phone HTC Sapphire (Magic) 32B Ship S-ON G
SPL(hboot): 1.33.0007 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
I already tryed a Goldcard, but no luck at all
Any Ideas.
I readed 2 Threads, they got a problem with theire devices,
it also was an 32B Magic and they wanted to do an update, too.
And they ended up with the same error message, so they tryed
to flash a 32A Image, and then the 32B, and it worked.
But i am worried, don't want to brick my device.
Anybody out there, with an idea?
Greeting
ZabbensX
i got the exact same problem. waiting for answers...
If you are running Donut Rom DRC92 then at the moment you are stuck. We need to wait until a higher firmware with a non-perfected SPL is released. If you are running a Cupcake Rom (starts with a C) then you can upgrade fine. I'm in the same situation after bricking my first phone using a RUU (they are for 32As only). Luckily Vodafone replaced it under warranty but I have ended up with the perfected SPL.
After having root and now unable to get root I can't say I miss it much. It makes you think what do you need root for? One of the reasons was the ability to flash custom roms but no disrespect to all the Hero Rom developers but NONE of them run well on a 32B Magic. Cyanogens software is good but what does it do that stock firmware doesn't? Any way hopefully Eclair won't be long, a new Rom will be released and we can all change to an engineering SPL and all will be jolly again.
what's ur OS ? Can HTC sync read ur device ?
No HTC Sync doesn't recognize my phone
Wayneh73 said:
If you are running Donut Rom DRC92 then at the moment you are stuck. We need to wait until a higher firmware with a non-perfected SPL is released. If you are running a Cupcake Rom (starts with a C) then you can upgrade fine. I'm in the same situation after bricking my first phone using a RUU (they are for 32As only). Luckily Vodafone replaced it under warranty but I have ended up with the perfected SPL.
After having root and now unable to get root I can't say I miss it much. It makes you think what do you need root for? One of the reasons was the ability to flash custom roms but no disrespect to all the Hero Rom developers but NONE of them run well on a 32B Magic. Cyanogens software is good but what does it do that stock firmware doesn't? Any way hopefully Eclair won't be long, a new Rom will be released and we can all change to an engineering SPL and all will be jolly again.
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Thats the reason I want to use the 32A rom as it's newer then my current rom and so it *should* hopefully flash the phone including the spl and then I can change the radio back to that of a 32B device
also what do you mean about being able to change to an engineering spl in Eclair?
Also I've never been able to get HTC Sync to work ever =[ in both xp or vista, and never been able to get the drivers working properly however I am yet to try with Ubuntu
dreamsofubuntu said:
Thats the reason I want to use the 32A rom as it's newer then my current rom and so it *should* hopefully flash the phone including the spl and then I can change the radio back to that of a 32B device
also what do you mean about being able to change to an engineering spl in Eclair?
Also I've never been able to get HTC Sync to work ever =[ in both xp or vista, and never been able to get the drivers working properly however I am yet to try with Ubuntu
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You should be able to get both fastboot and adb to recognise your phone although you won't be able to do anything. That sounds like a driver issue. If you go to the HTC website and download the latest drivers (pick the ones for the HTC branded magic) you should be ok. Try the link below.
http://www.htc.com/uk/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=267&act=sd&cat=all
As for flashing a 32a rom then changing the radio, good luck with that after already bricking one phone I haven't got the balls to try. If you do try and it works please post here exactly what you done as many people will thank you.
Lastly what I'm waiting for is a higher rom version which will probably be eclair (Android 2.0) which comes with a non-perfected SPL. Then the devs on here can get the relentless rooter to work on our phones.
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You should be able to get both fastboot and adb to recognise your phone although you won't be able to do anything. That sounds like a driver issue. If you go to the HTC website and download the latest drivers (pick the ones for the HTC branded magic) you should be ok. Try the link below.
http://www.htc.com/uk/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=267&act=sd&cat=all
As for flashing a 32a rom then changing the radio, good luck with that after already bricking one phone I haven't got the balls to try. If you do try and it works please post here exactly what you done as many people will thank you.
Lastly what I'm waiting for is a higher rom version which will probably be eclair (Android 2.0) which comes with a non-perfected SPL. Then the devs on here can get the relentless rooter to work on our phones.
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Okay thanks =] will see if I can get the drivers working with Ubuntu via the Android SDK although I cant try the Goldcard method until I get hold of another memory card as I've misplaced the one that came with the phone
dreamsofubuntu said:
Okay thanks =] will see if I can get the drivers working with Ubuntu via the Android SDK although I cant try the Goldcard method until I get hold of another memory card as I've misplaced the one that came with the phone
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u cant access it unless u enable USB debugging. If u cant pass activation, then ur screwed until u activate it with 3G
hacker1 suggested this:
Okay I post this as a private message because I don't know if I can post the links to the images on an official board.
There are basically 2 methods for flashing/rooting the 1.33.0007.
Method 1:
1.Download Android 1.5 CRC24 NBH
2. rename to sappimg.nbh and copy to sdcard
3. start magic with volume down+power
4. confirm with trackball
5. If everything works ok, follow 8. on method 2
If this fails with "Main version older" then copy sappimg.nbh to a goldcard and try again. (Some brands of SD-Cards are known to be incompatible with a goldcard, so you might need to try some different ones)
If it fails to flash with a goldcard you need method 2:
1. Download Android 1.5 CRC24 NBH (if you don't have it already)
2. Download 32A Image
3. rename 2.53.707.2_-_sappimg.zip to sappimg.zip and copy to goldcard
4. start magic with volume down+power and confirm flashing with trackball
5. turn off phone
6. delete sappimg.zip from goldcard and copy the "Android 1.5 CRC24 NBH" as sappimg.nbh to sdcard
7. start magic with volume down+power and confirm flashing with trackball
8. after restarting you should now be at Android 1.5 CRC24, install flashrec.apk to phone, change recovery image, boot into recovery and flash engineering spl.
Hope this will help you.
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hasnt worked for me yet.
IsmailBhai said:
u cant access it unless u enable USB debugging. If u cant pass activation, then ur screwed until u activate it with 3G
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USB debugging was one of the first things i turned on =]
In the same mess....
I hope someone can figure this out soon, I'm also in the same boat and cannot root my mt3g. It has the following specs:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.2007 (SAPP30000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
Jul 31 2009, 15:49:25
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I have tried the following methods...
sappimg.zip + goldcard
Model ID incorrect!
Update Fail!
SAPPIMG.nbh
Main Version is older!
No luck, just errors. Anyone got any suggestions?
xepergod said:
I hope someone can figure this out soon, I'm also in the same boat and cannot root my mt3g. It has the following specs:
I have tried the following methods...
sappimg.zip + goldcard
Model ID incorrect!
Update Fail!
SAPPIMG.nbh
Main Version is older!
No luck, just errors. Anyone got any suggestions?
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Not yet and the fact that none of the senior members are bragging any where they can do it I think we are pretty much stuck. In fact no-one is talking about trying to hack this so I think it maybe in the too difficult bin! Time to save up and get a Nexus One
nooooooooooo
Wayneh73 said:
Not yet and the fact that none of the senior members are bragging any where they can do it I think we are pretty much stuck. In fact no-one is talking about trying to hack this so I think it maybe in the too difficult bin! Time to save up and get a Nexus One
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Dream killer
32A Rom on your 32B may brick your phone
dreamsofubuntu said:
Thats the reason I want to use the 32A rom as it's newer then my current rom and so it *should* hopefully flash the phone including the spl and then I can change the radio back to that of a 32B device
also what do you mean about being able to change to an engineering spl in Eclair?
Also I've never been able to get HTC Sync to work ever =[ in both xp or vista, and never been able to get the drivers working properly however I am yet to try with Ubuntu
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*IF* you load the 32A radio and SPL and ROM on your 32B, you may only succeed in bricking your phone.
They are different devices. You can try it if you like, but be ready to throw the phone away.
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Okay my phones info is as follows:
UK Vodafone running Donut 1.6
Code:
SAPPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0007 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.261
Jul 31 2009, 15:49:25
Now is this or is this not a perfected SPL "1.33.0007" as I cant do jack with it nor can I get any computer to recognize it when it's in fastboot connected to a PC...*sigh* (although it will when it's turned on)
Now assuming the above is correct and it is a perfected spl will the below work:
Step 1
Flash the phone with the 32A ROM v2.53.707.2 (Engineerings SPL v1.33.2010) this being a higher rom version than my own from Amon_RA's thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218)
Step 2
Change the radio (any recommendations?) back to that of a 32B HTC Magic device and install CyanogenMod using the info again from a different Amon_RA thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4314039&postcount=1)
Step 3
Sit back and bathe in the glory of my finally rooted HTC Magic?
Thanks in advance for any and all help even if it's just a quick reply to tell me I'm off my trolley and it's a sure fire way to brick my phone
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I do not know if this helps you guys.http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/15/how-to-root-a-donut-phone-android-1-6/
All phones are diffrent I have perfect spl too and I manage to flash in fastboot.
I've found something which I think might help on a German android forum and it looks like the guy succeeded in doing something similar to what I posted originally in this thread from what I can gather from google translate
http://www.android-hilfe.de/root-hacking-modding-htc-magic/11285-flashen-mit-1-33-0007-spl.html
can anyone help me out and post a translation for me? (I mean someone who can give a translation not from a website unless it's blindingly better then google)
Current translation via google...
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it should be called "flashed with SPL 1.33.0007"
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Hello, nice forum you have here
I have the following problem:
Recently I wanted to flash my Vodafone Magic (Android 1.6 SPL 1.33.0007) with Cyanogenic Mod.
Since I have a "perfect" SPL, I've tried it with a gold card. Everything went well so far. Only apparently I had made a version for the 32A, then stood for in fastboot Ship S-OFF H and I could only make recovery for the HTC version of RA, rather than the Google version. I had taken here -> ROM v2.53.707.2 (SPL engineering had v1.33.2010) the rom but works as well and booted normally.
anyway I wanted to be the recovery of RA have wrote -> HTC_ADP_1.6_DRC83_rooted_base.zip CM 4.2.5 and later.
The flash itself went well, but I stayed in the HTC bootscreen Magic hang himself and it did nothing more.
In another forum I was told that what I have by gold card (power + vol down) flashed (the sappimg.zip) was just for the 32A, and it therefore did not go.
Jetz, I wanted to ask what am I then can take the 32B, then to flash it to the cyanogenic mod? Because irgednwie I'm a little confused at the 10,000 versions at XDA dev .....
I hope someone can help me there. I'm just glad that the phone because I did not have gebricked garkeine backup (duchzufall had found it here in the forum, the firmware vodafone stock and re-flashed)
thank you in advance
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ah, I'm stupid.
The stock firmware I had was re-flashed V1.5 .. have then by Flashrecovery the CMrecovery flashed and book now funzt everything.
no offense
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So from what I can gather this guy succeded in rooting and flashing his HTC Magic 1.33.007???????????
Hi folks.
I am desperate to get Cyanogens mod on my phone but I can't downgrade to 1.5 because i'm on 1.6 with a UK vodafone Magic (32B).
Any chance a serious andoid expert could step in and tell me:
Will there be a new image made to fix this issue?
is there a method I will understand? It says on the Cyanogen Wiki that there has been "some success" with my version but I can't find where it says how to downgrade for my version
I keep hearing about gold card or summink but i'm a noob and I don't have the foggiest idea where to start.
Please help!! and try to make your responses understandable
Dont worry...
Hi there
I think is possible what you're trying to do, but in order to change your rom you don't need downgrading nowadays (HTC are not PSPs, hehe).
I have a magic from Vodafone ES, and what you have to do first is check your model, can be 32A (HTC) or 32B (Vodafone, less ram in cell phone), so you'll probably have 32B like me.
After this, you need Android SDK and drivers to connect your device usb, load a modified SPL via ADB/fastboot (there's a thread in the forum with the HBOOT collection, you need one of those in your cell in order to change the rom).
Summarizing:
1. check if 32B
2. get Android SDK to use the commands fastboot/ADB
3. replace SPL
4. continue with the cyano's wiki
I followed this: http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=74683 (sorry is in spanish and a bit outdated, but the apps you need like the SDK are in there, and you have some screenshots, you can skip the root part since cyano's mod is rooted already).
About the goldcard method, I dont know because mine hadn't had perfect SPL, I only had trouble with the usb driver, and downloaded HTC sync (look for it on google if you need) and adb/fastboot detected my device.
A good idea is to install a recovery image once you change your SPL, I personally recommend Amon_RA's recovery 1.5.2.
Last but not least, these explanations are the basics, I know it sounds like chinese to you but read more posts in the forum, there's a cyanogen flashing guide as well, with all the information and these steps you'll do fine.
Hope you'll succeed, let me know your issues
I do understand reasonably well but you cannot use the guide on here with a UK magic as the SAPPH.img file or whatever has an incorrect ID. it's at this point the process cannot be completed.
Thanks so much for your lengthy reply but in this case I believe my phone is unique and the problem cannot be be as easily resolved as you suggest. I must downgrade to 1.5.
Are any of the extreme android geeks able to shed light on this?
I can shed light on you as I have a Vodafone HTC Magic 32B. I used the instructions at the link below and got my phone back to Cupcake, but oddly enough I used the MyTouch instructions and searched online for a suitable sappimg.nbh file as the one they provided didn't work for me. Now I am running Qteknology MagicSense Hero ROM with working LEDs. Forget about ADB, SDK and the Goldcard method... I am sure you want the simplest way to unroot so you can get back to 1.5 and the reroot to whatever you like. Here it is: http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/15/how-to-root-a-donut-phone-android-1-6/
This is great news but I have tried that method with the sappimg.nbh and it says incorrect ID every time.
Are you using a UK vodafone magic then? If so, where did you find a SAPPIMG that worked?
Please try and remember!
It doesn't matter that your phone is a UK Vodafone Magic.. if you google sappimg.nbh and download a few until you get the one you need you will have your phone reverted back to it original state... ready to root. If you stop your search after one attempt you will not have done all you needed to do. You don't have to know any codes or get another SD card.. just put some effort into it from your computer. Google is your friend.
but being a bit of a noob to all this, surely trying sappimg files at random might risk bricking my phone? I heard there was a good sappimg for all but my version of the phone which is why I mentioned it.
Maybe someone on here has a sappimg known to work with my phone?
But yes, i'm off to do some intense googling.
Thanks
Hi
I have a UK Voda Magic and I followed this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=579328 and worked perfectly for me
It truly is lovely of you all to try and help and I appreciate it but I suspect you have not read my comments properly.
Those of you that have commented here were only able to get it to work because you were flashing from/rooting from a 1.5 cupcake build. Once the OTA 1.6 donut update is on a UK magic it cannot be downgraded and so all comments thus far are superfluous. contrary to other comments it is necessary to flash SAPPIMG.nbh first and this does not work on my phone - incorrect CID.
Is there anyone on here that can help with MY issue?
Thanks.
Strange, because I have no issues flashing UK Voda 1.6 phones, just fastboot and use ADB to load recovery image, then flash whatever 32B ROM I like (Dwangs 1.17.1 is great). I did a work collegues before Christmas and his phone had never been modified, only received the OTA update from 1.5 to 1.6 around October time.
I'm on it. That's the way I used to flash roms back when i first got my magic. Now i've been thrown by all the simple guides to put cyanogen and I thought the sappimg method was the only way. I'll just download the sdk and get on my merry way
I don't understand what the issue is? I have a UK vodafone 32B and have been flitting between CM's mods, Hero mods backwards and forwards with no issues whatsoever?
I'm on CM's latest right now (well, a few back now 4.2.11 latest), just followed the instructions and it worked....?
I certainly did read your OP correctly and I also was on 1.6 when I followed the link I posted. In that link it has instructions on how to do it if you are on 1.5 OR 1.6
Started out with 1.5 Vodafone UK Magic which i've flashed many times using the fastboot boot cm-recovery-1.4.img method.
At one time i went back to stock 1.5 but let it update itself (OTA) to 1.6. Since then i've continued to flash new ROMs without problem.
Alfieg said:
but being a bit of a noob to all this, surely trying sappimg files at random might risk bricking my phone? I heard there was a good sappimg for all but my version of the phone which is why I mentioned it.
Maybe someone on here has a sappimg known to work with my phone?
But yes, i'm off to do some intense googling.
Thanks
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hi alfieg
ive vodafone magic 32B with donut and perfect SPL, in present day, I tried all the guides and methods in many forums, without success, for example, if you follow the guide in wiki cyano, already the first step there are problems, how I try to update with sappimg. (cupcake 1.5) as the ends' update writes "main version is older," "update failed "... if you do not then a way to get cupcake is impossible to have root on magic 32b with donut and Perfect spl ....
Indeed in the wiki says, if you have donut Downgrading to 1.5 FAILED: HTC Magic Vodafone ES (Spain) (32B) Official 1.6 updated OTA "
wait a few geek we solve the problem ...
I don't see what the problem is. You should have been reverted back to 1.5 and flashing new ROMs. The instructions are simple.. someone else has done all the hard work.. all you have to do is download a file and hold your phone.
blackvyper said:
I don't see what the problem is. You should have been reverted back to 1.5 and flashing new ROMs. The instructions are simple.. someone else has done all the hard work.. all you have to do is download a file and hold your phone.
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download a file, to make what? If you can not root for real?
Will you lot please listen to me!
There are two methods reccommended:
1) Flash the SAPPIMG.nbh to downgrade back to 1.5 - this does not work on a UK magic on vodafone 32B at all! It reports Invalid CID, update failed!
2) use the fastboot boot cm-recovery-1.4.img via the SDK - This does not work on my phone! - I have the device listed when I use "adb devices" so the drivers are ok but it hangs at <Waiting for device> when i try to fastboot boot cm-recovery-1.4.img!!!!!! No ammount of killing the server and remounting as per the cyano instructions works!!!!! in fact, it wont let me remount (Operation not permitted)!!!
If you don't understand please don't post. People who have not updated to 1.6 OTA and people who don't have a UK voda 32B - stop posting here.
Grrrr
No need to downgrade
Alfieg said:
Hi folks.
I am desperate to get Cyanogens mod on my phone but I can't downgrade to 1.5 because i'm on 1.6 with a UK vodafone Magic (32B).
Any chance a serious andoid expert could step in and tell me:
Will there be a new image made to fix this issue?
is there a method I will understand? It says on the Cyanogen Wiki that there has been "some success" with my version but I can't find where it says how to downgrade for my version
I keep hearing about gold card or summink but i'm a noob and I don't have the foggiest idea where to start.
Please help!! and try to make your responses understandable
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I have a New Zealand Vodafone Magic 32B and they share the same Hboot 1.33.0004 (SAPP10000) SPL with the UK (and NL and AU) vodafone phones. That means they are VERY easy to load alternate ROMs onto. The horrible stuff many Americans and others have to go through to root their phones isn't required for us.
You do need to get the Android SDK installed and talking properly to your phone.
Assuming you have the SDK set up and you can see your USB-connected phone listed when you enter the "adb devices" command, then the rest should be easy. See the Cyanogen Mod wiki for the details. You want the section on "non-Tmobile 32B magics" on this page:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_MT3G/Magic_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod
It starts with:
"Non-TMobile 32B Magics
If the above doesn't work for you, don't despair. Some non-US Magics are shipped with a fastboot compatible SPL installed. If you see 3 skateboarding androids when you boot to fastboot, you should be able to do the following:"
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This is the part you want to pay attention to, assuming you have the SDK installed properly. Our phones are actually MUCH easier to load others ROM on because we have those fastboot-enabled SPLs already in place and this is the first, BEST way for us to do it.
Whatever you do, do NOT flash the "Danger SPL". There is no need to for an HTC Magic with the Hboot 1.33.0004 (SAPP10000) SPL.
If you're hopelessly lost at this point, seek hands-on local help. You don't know enough to do this by yourself without risking screwing up. if no one can help you, then take your time. Learn the stuff you need to know....Being in a hurry is a great way to go wrong. I spent 3 months reading and thinking about it before I loaded my first ROM. Much of the advice is for the Dream / G1 or locked MyTouch3G or Magic 32B phone from telcos who lock them....and simply isn't relevant for the HTC Magic 32B from Vodafone. the single section I'm pointing you to above is all we need to get it done.
Finally, here is my own "simple guide" for getting loading alternate ROMs on a Vodafone HTC Magic 32B. This is about OUR phone...and should work if you work your way through it.
http://truthseekernz.blogspot.com/2009/11/simple-guide-to-loading-new-roms-on.html
You don't need to worry about "gold cards" and all that stuff. You'll be flashing an already rooted ROM and you will have backed up your un-rooted original load with "nandroid" before you change ANYTHING. That backup is your path back to the way your phone was before you rooted it by flashing an already rooted system ROM. in loading ROMs like Cyanogen's you're not baking a cake, you're buying one....so you don't need to know how to make one, you just need to know where to get one and how to serve it....if that analogy makes sense.
Simply, you start by: fastboot boot RA-recovery-1.5.2G.img:
Then, from the recovery menu of functions you do these steps:
1. Backup (nandroid)
2. Wipe system / data
3. Wipe cache
4. flash from any zip on sdcard (the one you want to flash today, you may have put several different ROM images in /sdcard)
5. reboot to brave new world.
6. Make a backup copy on your PC of the /sdcard/nandroid folder on your sdcard so you won't lose it accidentally if your sdcard is corrupted, lost or stolen.
Done.
To save time and let you backup / flash ROMs anywhere you happen to be standing, you can flash Amon-RA's recovery onto your phone or you can load it via fastboot every time and leave the default recovery in place. The very first nandroid backup you made will have backed up the factory recovery image as well as the factory system image as they were at the time you backed them up. So they can be restored if you want to at some point update them with an OTA update. I suspect Vodafone / HTC will be rolling out an Android 2.0 / 2.1 update to Magic phones at some point. If they don't that would be a black mark against them....something to remember when thinking about buying any future phone from anyone: "WILL THEY SUPPORT IT FOR THE SAME 2 YEARS YOU'VE SIGNED UP FOR".
If the answer isn't YES......then that's worth remembering. Vodafone / HTC's record so far is good. The last OTA update was barely 3 months ago.
Alfieg said:
Will you lot please listen to me!
There are two methods reccommended:
1) Flash the SAPPIMG.nbh to downgrade back to 1.5 - this does not work on a UK magic on vodafone 32B at all! It reports Invalid CID, update failed!
2) use the fastboot boot cm-recovery-1.4.img via the SDK - This does not work on my phone! - I have the device listed when I use "adb devices" so the drivers are ok but it hangs at <Waiting for device> when i try to fastboot boot cm-recovery-1.4.img!!!!!! No ammount of killing the server and remounting as per the cyano instructions works!!!!! in fact, it wont let me remount (Operation not permitted)!!!
If you don't understand please don't post. People who have not updated to 1.6 OTA and people who don't have a UK voda 32B - stop posting here.
Grrrr
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Get latest version of fastboot binary. I had problems with original one and htc magic. Drop fastboot.exe into the sdk tools folder.
Reboot your phone holding back and power simultaneously.
Then plug usb cable.
in Dos prompt go to sdk tools folder and type "fastboot devices"
if your device is listed you are good to go.
then "fastboot boot cm-recovery-1.4.img"
(If ROM installed via official HTC RUU- RUU_Sapphire_Rogers_WWE_3.05.631.7_R_release_signed_NoDriver.exe)
UPDATE!! **SOLVED** April 25, 2010
Download new RUU
http://www.multiupload.com/XQEH9NVGY7
Flash with Goldcard method http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/
1. Download RUU linked above.
2. Install update using RUU.
3. Turn on phone and connect to computer.
4. Get RA recovery and SPL also linked above and drop them to sdcard root directory.
5. Run SDK: adb shell
6. Install recovery: flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery-RA-hero-v1.6.2.img http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561124
6. Turn off phone and turn on again holding Power+Home. RA Recovery should appear.
7. Flash zip from sdcard.
8. Use file: update-hboot-1762007-signed
9. Done. PSPL broken.
10. Build a shrine for orange_24
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**Not Successfully Rooted: Feb. 2, 2010 (AFAIK)
I decided to start this thread because the info for again obtaining root, for those of us dumb enough to update to the official Rogers ROM 3.05.631.7 via the RUU, is all over the place in about a million different threads. My hope is that we can organize it all in 1 place.
At this point, yes, we all know we were impatient and newbs and everything else. Ok, lesson learned. So, lets move forward and try to get this thing rooted.
If you are a developer who has the talent to help root this ROM and have lost interest in the Magic or moved on to the Nexus One or Droid, we ask that you please try to spend a few moments on this and help out those of us who are really stuck here. Personally, I'm getting pretty desperate and thinking of even replacing the phone.
Please post what you've tried in attempting to again obtain root, your failures and hopefully successes.
*One Click Root: http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/29/how-to-root-the-htc-magic-in-one-click/ Cant' back up Recovery.img Error(Tried clicking the hidden Star next to "Back Up Recovery" and skipping this step...and just flashing recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.5.2H.img. Didn't work either) Tried with Amon_RA Hero recovery.img also, without success.
*Tried downgrading to Rogers' last official ROM via the RUU for (Rogers)_RUU_Sapphire_Rogers_WWE_2.17.631.2_release_signed_NoDriver.exe RUU would not let me proceed because the ROM was older than the one installed. Attempted several times both with and without a goldcard installed.
*ADB: Will see the device, initially, but a command of "adb remount" kills the connect. same with "adb root" **EDIT
*Fastboot: Error- Does not allow access
*Relentless Rooter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556200 No luck obtaining root
*Fix Perfect SPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218&highlight=create+gold+card With one GoldCard getting Update Fail error that SAPPIMG is older than one installed. When trying the other GC, get Update Fail Error that Model ID is incorrect. Tried 2 different micro sd cards, one Sandisk and one Patriot. The card was recognized by my pc after I was done creating the GoldCard, so unless I'm doing something wrong the GC was created properly. Is the goldcard.img supposed to dissapear or remain on the card after your copy/paste write/save to the sd card disk?
* Tried RUU for RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Europe_3.04.401.2_HTC_AT_test_signed_NoDriver.exe http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625108 RUU would not let me proceed because the ROM was older than the one installed or Device ID was wrong. Attempted several times both with and without a goldcard installed.
*Tried RUU for RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Europe_3.05.401.3_release_signed_NoDriver.exe http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621415 RUU would not let me proceed because the ROM was older than the one installed or Device ID was wrong. Attempted several times both with and without a goldcard installed.
*Tried RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Asia_WWE_2.53.707.2_SEA_test_signed_NoDriver.exe RUU would not let me proceed because the ROM was older than the one installed or Device ID was wrong. Attempted several times both with and without a goldcard installed.
I've probably tried a few more methods to obtain root. Those were all fails, too. I'll post the links, as well, when I find them again.
Hopefully this thread will lead us all in the right direction.
Here is the link to the same topic in the HTC Dream Forum-in case they find out something that might help us out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625732
i guess its time to play doctor with my new phone from rogers and swap the board from my old one.....
considering nothing works, i think any new idea would be a good idea
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considering nothing works, i think any new idea would be a good idea
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like i said my idea was to swap my old motherboard into the new phone
you can give it a shot
but personally, unless you know exactly what your getting into, i wouldn't mess with the hardware
novadoc said:
you can give it a shot
but personally, unless you know exactly what your getting into, i wouldn't mess with the hardware
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i already did it lol im more of a hardware then software
I know it might be nothing but when the Rogers RUU unpacks the img file loads as sappdimg and not sappimg. I don't know if the extra d in there means anything or if its something that shows up later.
I also try every method above and not luck also...
is there a possible way of tricking the system... with a higher build number and SPL with a custom installation from files that I see from one of the post where rogers send the user some files because they were running Win7?
I think that's the problem
We have the highest spl# and its perfected
So until someone gets their hands on a higher version than ours that is imperfect or engineering...
We are SOL, although I am hopeful someone is working on this for us.
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i already did it lol im more of a hardware then software
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Did it work?
I have an Rogers HTC Magic and I didn't apply any update from Rogers since I bought it on June 2nd.
It's very strange that "adb devices" doesn't see the device?
have you enable the "USB debugging" ?
That part should work (when the devices is started).
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Did it work?
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pfft ya ofcourse it worked... i have my older motherboard with my old rom and my old info all i did was swap the screen and case.... done deal... 5 min job lol
Would someone please report the radio and SPL versions (for the result of the 3.05.631.7 update)?
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would someone please report the radio and spl versions (for the result of the 3.05.631.7 update)?
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apphire pvt 32a ship s-on h
hboot-1.76.0010 (sapp50000)
cpld-12
radio-6.35.10.18
feisty_noodle said:
would someone please report the radio and spl versions (for the result of the 3.05.631.7 update)?
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apphire pvt 32a ship s-on h
hboot-1.76.0010 (sapp50000)
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radio-6.35.10.18
Well, until it gets cracked, here's something that will make you feel a little better about being stuck on this ROM.
Google Search by Voice, installable .apk from Euro Android Market. Just run the installer through Astro, etc., and G Search by Voice is back on the Search button of your phone. You might need to launch the app first via the icon in the app tray, then reboot the phone to make the search button recognize its there. But it will be there.
http://www.eclosion-android.com/com.google.android.voicesearch.apk
BTW, not my link in case mods want to get involved.
Enjoy!
i think the first step would be to getting ADB working again
any ideas?
novadoc said:
i think the first step would be to getting ADB working again
any ideas?
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I can used adb devices to see my connected htc magic.... but other function permission not allow...
Is this thread in the Dream Forum a path to follow to try, or just a good way to brick your Magic? I haven't fully read through it to see if this is to keep root, if you already have it and flash the Rogers Dream ROM for data/ or to regain root if you flashed the official Rogers RUU with a Dream. The post says should work on all Rogers phones, but i feel a brick coming on for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5480955&postcount=416
Hi,
I thought id flash my 32b with the latest rom today, so i downloaded it off here (said it was for a 32b) and flashed my phone...
1: its not for a 32b its for a 32a
2: its now stuck in RUU USB mode
3: i can communicate to it with fastboot but can not load a recovery file as it just hangs where it should have rebooted into the recovery image,
4: its using 1.76.0009 spl which is a perfect one.
5: PLEASE does anyone know how i might be able to UN-Brick my phone ?
6: I cant make a gold card as i can't get the CID for my SD card
PLEASE HELP
EDIT: There is an update on HTCs UK site. Just download and install that and you should be fine.
thanks for the reply,
Unfortunately im from NZL and my serial number doesnt work
and my phone is a 32b and that update is for a 32a
Used Haret to get CID
I also bricked my Magic yesterday, using an official RUU.exe. And I had the same problem in obtaining the CID, but luckily I could get around it as follows:
I still have an old HTC Touch Cruise (aka Polaris 100) and installed an Android version which booted from Haret. Once it was running I could obtain a terminal window and do a cat for the CID file. I tried to access it via ADB, but that did not succeed.
There are several distributions described in the Polaris forums, your mileage might vary with other models.
So if you know somebody with an HTC phone (WM) try to find an Android distribution for it, put it on your SD card and run haret. It is non-destructive and allows you to read the CID. After obtaining the CID, I reformatted the SD card and folowed the instructions here: Create gold card.
After inserting the Gold card, I could continue the RUU update and now I have a Magic with HTC Sense.
thanks for that, im glad to see im not alone, im trying to find a program for linux / mac / windows which will give me my CID for my SD card but can't find one anywhere
When you put the goldcard in and turned your phone on it boot from it automatically ?
gymmy said:
thanks for that, im glad to see im not alone, im trying to find a program for linux / mac / windows which will give me my CID for my SD card but can't find one anywhere
When you put the goldcard in and turned your phone on it boot from it automatically ?
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If u have a nokia hacked can use the ReadCID aplications.
thanks i have found a friend with a touch HD on android so i am going to get that tomorrow and make up a gold card ,... Ill report back with the results.
Thanks to everyone for your help todate
gymmy said:
thanks i have found a friend with a touch HD on android so i am going to get that tomorrow and make up a gold card ,... Ill report back with the results.
Thanks to everyone for your help todate
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hello, I had the same problem with the help of my colleagues from the Bulgarian, I fixed it without gold for cadets karta.Chek you just made the phone had such a site where you are setting up your serial number and go to where it e.sled enter the site and the HTC looking for old phone si.Download to update it if you go with the serial number if you do not poke around the net, Russians are brothers powwow original RUU, most important is to find for your original RUU telefon.Shtom find it, you put the USB cable and it puskash.This of me I hope I helped you
Wait... how did you manage to install a RUU for 32A on a 32B without goldcard?
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Wait... how did you manage to install a RUU for 32A on a 32B without goldcard?
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my platform is 32A end I dont creat cold card just a original RUU from HTC sait
my phone is TIM brandet and i download TIM RUU and my phone downupgade then
Just an update to how the recovery is going
Well i created a goldcard which has fixed my issue with the Custom ID check and i have managed to Down grade my hboot to 1.76.0008 and my radio phone is still having a personalliy issue and thinks its a 32a and its NOT !! when it gets to unzipping the system it just hangs there, in fact it sits there all day until the battery dies and indicator doesnt shift on phone from 0 so with the RUU it makes it to 81% if i can get a sappimg for a 32b which desent flash the system but only the radio and hboot would be great (I think) , issue is that when i try and make one, it comes up with Signature Verfiy Fail
HELP
Not even 32A users can downgrade 1.76.0008 right now except for the SU edition, which you cannot boot. You have a brick.
The same problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlH_yhgRiwo
I have found a way around that im now working again, its all about the order that things get flashed to your phone.
I found an RUU that flashed everything 1st apart from the rom which is flashed last. As long as you have a gold card you can do this.
When it gets to flashing the system over its crashes... thats ok, take the battery out of your phone and reflash, your 32a s-on H becomes a 32b s-on H and then the system will flash over ok.
So... I have a skitzo phone at the moment with a saudi rom on it, but at least its working... HOW EVER.... these bloody alarms keep waking me up to do my prays hahahaa i thought that was kinda funny...
SO... now i just need to copy a sappimg onto my gold card and flash off that which ill do tonight
Ill give a full detailed HOWTO with links to the files once im back to normal.
Its taken me about 3 full days and about 3gig of downloads to get this sorted. If you dont have a gold card then your SCREWED... well not totally you need to get another phone eg android or a windows mobile 6.5 with eaRET on it works also
gymmy said:
I have found a way around that im now working again, its all about the order that things get flashed to your phone.
I found an RUU that flashed everything 1st apart from the rom which is flashed last. As long as you have a gold card you can do this.
Here's why I thought you had a definite brick:
When it gets to flashing the system over its crashes... that's ok, take the battery out of your phone and reflash, your 32a s-on H becomes a 32b s-on H and then the system will flash over ok.
So... I have a skitzo phone at the moment with a saudi rom on it, but at least its working... HOW EVER.... these bloody alarms keep waking me up to do my prays hahahaa i thought that was kinda funny...
SO... now i just need to copy a sappimg onto my gold card and flash off that which ill do tonight
Ill give a full detailed HOWTO with links to the files once im back to normal.
Its taken me about 3 full days and about 3gig of downloads to get this sorted. If you dont have a gold card then your SCREWED... well not totally you need to get another phone eg android or a windows mobile 6.5 with eaRET on it works also
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Now I am very curious. Where did you get this RUU? I still don't see how you fixed it. I'm looking forward to seeing you detail this.
The new RUUs come in 2 zip files - the first with the radio and hboot and the other with the rest of the files. You can rename them as sappimg.zip to try to flash them from RUU, since they are signed by HTC.
However, as far as I know those RUUs are for 32A only. If you had HBOOT 1.76.0008, 0009 or 0010, you can not flash a lower version ROM even with a gold card. The SPL/HBOOT and radio combination actually seems to work on the 32B. However, you would need to be able to boot to a custom recovery somehow to do anything special. The system.img on the 32A RUUs I thought were too big for 32B. So if you were able to flash you must have had enough space on the 32B and I was wrong. I wonder why people are getting stuck though.
The reason I called a brick is because the only available 32B HBOOT have lower ROM version strings (2.x series ROM) than the 32A RUUs (3.x series ROM version string). I still don't know if 32A RUUs actually work on 32B.
You can flash the 3.05 series SPLs all you want, but they are all perfected. The only other option for the 32A Magic was booting to the leaked 3.04 ROM with SU in the system image, but you would not be able to flash that. So are you saying that it actually works?
Anyways please report back
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Now I am very curious. Where did you get this RUU? I still don't see how you fixed it. I'm looking forward to seeing you detail this.
The new RUUs come in 2 zip files - the first with the radio and hboot and the other with the rest of the files. You can rename them as sappimg.zip to try to flash them from RUU, since they are signed by HTC.
However, as far as I know those RUUs are for 32A only. If you had HBOOT 1.76.0008, 0009 or 0010, you can not flash a lower version ROM even with a gold card. The SPL/HBOOT and radio combination actually seems to work on the 32B. However, you would need to be able to boot to a custom recovery somehow to do anything special. The system.img on the 32A RUUs I thought were too big for 32B. So if you were able to flash you must have had enough space on the 32B and I was wrong. I wonder why people are getting stuck though.
The reason I called a brick is because the only available 32B HBOOT have lower ROM version strings (2.x series ROM) than the 32A RUUs (3.x series ROM version string). I still don't know if 32A RUUs actually work on 32B.
You can flash the 3.05 series SPLs all you want, but they are all perfected. The only other option for the 32A Magic was booting to the leaked 3.04 ROM with SU in the system image, but you would not be able to flash that. So are you saying that it actually works?
Anyways please report back
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No they dont work and hence why it bricked the phone, the good part is that it never flashed the rom so I was sweet with getting the phone back. Prior to flashing it was 32b 1.33.0010 eng s-off G, then 32a 1.33.0009 s-on H and now is a 32b 1.33.0010 s-on H... rom is 2.56.??.? which ill have to look up later when im back home either way its gone from a 32b to a 32a stuck in RUU USB (due to not enough room to flash the rom) back to a 32b which works just is all arabic.
With the GOLD card it allowed me to flash a different Custom ID on to my phone, replaced the Radio and SPL and which then changed the phone from 32a to 32b, I even reversed it and did it again to makesure it wasnt a fluke and it wasnt. if it wasnt for the fact that the order of the flashing occured the way i did i wouldnt have been able to fix it as it would tried and flash the SYSTEM b4 it would flash everything else which would make it hang !
As soon as ive rooted the current rom (which is harder than i expected due to the rom version) ill do a write up on how to fix it as there are a few steps inbetween.
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Wait so you never flashed 1.76.x did you. You just had 1.33.0009 and you typed it wrong in your first post?
If so we don't need a walk through for that. The one at unlocker.net would have served you perfectly.
what walk through was that, ill re 32a it again and ill let you know that it was.
just an update ,
Yes it was spl 1.76.0009
i have since flashed the phone with 2.56.494.7 and now have to wait until someone gets a rooted version of this rom or releases a later gold card version of sappimg.nbh or sappimg.zip to cut a long story short this is what happened.
1: flashed a Sence-IU for a 32b (but it wasnt it was for a 32a)
2: ended up with 1.76.0009 and the radio which goes along with it.
3: now reads 32a s-on H
4: made a goldcard
5: had to flash with 2.56.494.7
6: first flash of this rom replaced the SPL with 1.33.0010 (perfected)
7: screen now reads 32b s-on H
8: rom failed to flash
9: re-run the update of 2.56.494.7 and the phone flashes and reboots
10: cant root the phone until a newer version of sappimg.nbh is released
11: can use the phone but the arab applications dont allow the market
12: now its a waiting game.
Hope this helps others with bricked phone... If i had to do this again i wouldnt have flashed the 2nd time with 2.56.494.7 but instead a different RUU for the 32B this would have ment i would have been able to root the phone... Live and lean !
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I have used the guides in this post to fix a friend's 32B Magic, which he had flashed with an RUU for 32A Magic. It works just fine.