Android on HP HX4700 PDA (no phone) - General Questions and Answers

Hi there,
I'd love to put Android onto my HX4700 so I'm trying to find if someone has compiled it yet. Any ideas / links?

I did a quick hunt and found this link
http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=246201
There were a load on Google, but unfortunately most of them were broken... I think that the HX4700 has full Linux support, so ultimately Android could be ported, but I'm not too sure about it. I don't really know the internal Android workings.

sigh. i wish this topic wasn't so dead on the web.
here sits my lonely little hx4700 with no android.
what to do...

Please, guys!
Somebody needs to make an android rom for hx4700!
I have it here standing with crappy windows mobile on it!
Unfortunately, I dont know how to make roms but someone here knows...more of them
So, please ppl, screw windows mobile roms and start working on android.
I think its a lot faster than windows mobile 6.1
It has a huge library of apps too! It would be great-linux or android-anything but slow windows
Don't kill this thread-we NEED android

That would be SOOOO cool!!!

I started working on this a few days ago I'm new to the android build experience though. But I do have ubuntu booting up to the login screen, and Android crapping out shortly after running init.
I'm to upload a CF image for ubuntu as soon as dd finishes and tar has had it's way with the file. I do need help and I'm asking for your's drop by and check it out, test it and help me figure out the touch screen and mouse pad. After getting ubuntu to run on these marvellous devices android should become easier to do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15135224#post15135224
Uploaded finished

Thanks a lot @foolsh for making this rom, keep up the good work

HX4700 sous Android (Seems to be working !)
Hi !
I found this :
http ://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=316311
You need to understand Russian (or use google translator) but is worst the try !
Instructions to build an Android system for an HX4700 device are here:
http ://boneshaker.devio.us/hx4700/
In addition those instrucions make you build a 2.6.29 kernel. As I write those lines, it might be possible to build a 3.X kernel that should be best suited for those devices.
Sorry for the link but the antispam regulation forbid me to do better.
Pictures of the results are available on those sites
Enjoy !
PS: I'm currently working on building this kind of system for my device (without Haret). When it'll be done I'll post the ROM.

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Cooking WM6 kernel

Hi Everyone,
first of all, english is not my language, so please be patient.
In my line of work, i usually have to develop some sort of embedded sytem, using small microcontrollers. Nevertheless somethimes this systems gets too big and i need to end using a Pc with Linux or paying windows xp licenses.
I found that CE is really cheaper.
How can i build my own WM6 OS for a mini-itx computer?.
I know this is out of topic, but i also would like to know how can this be built for the Wizard too.
Can i download somehow a Platform Builder for WM6 and build the OS?
I know that there was something like that on WM5, but i never tried it.
Thanks for making awsome roms.
I think with something like this you'd be better off contacting microsoft directly.
Drivers would be your biggest issue.and i believe only microsoft would have the manpower to develope these for you.
Post your question here. You may get more answers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=260

Where can I download platform builder for windows mobile 5.0?

Where can I download platform builder for windows mobile 5.0?can anyone help me?
You can't.
PB for Windows Mobile (not CE!) is not available to the general public. You need to be an OEM recognized by MS to get one.
You could always try P2P networks, but its 7-9GB download and there is no guarantee some one leaked the real thing.
Does Platform Builder for Windows Mobile 5.0 contain WM2005?
What exactly are talking about?
It seems you have your terminology confused.
WM is short for Windows Mobile. 2005 was the initial name for the 5 version until MS (that stands for Microsoft) did an official release and everyone started calling it WM 5. Some still refer to it as 2005 (as in the year it was released).
Why do you want the Platform Builder any way? You can't make a new ROM with it.
If you jut want some code samples get the PB for CE or if you want to translate the interface (localize your device) just use a ROM dump.
Thank you for replying.
Need AKU and platform builder
Hi,
How are you able to get AKU and platform builder for Windows Mobile 5.0.
Thanks,
Niraj
Buy Platform Builder
I am interested in buying the Platform Builder if you still have. Send me how. Thank you.
5thWheel said:
Hi,
I actually have a legitimate "Windows CE 5.0 with Platform Builder". It has product keys, holograms, everything! I came across this thread when I was googling to see if it was worth my eBaying it!
If anyone is interested, I can put up an eBay auction with a reserve of maybe £50 (it cost me £250, was worth around £500 when I bought it!).
I have "Windows CE.Net [AKA "CE 4.2"] with Platform Builder" as well; again, if there is actually some interest I can eBay it and post a link to the auction. I wasn't going to bother as it didn't look like it was going to be worth the listing fee (no one seems to sell these any more, but 4.2 was easy to buy from various UK retailers at the time, and there were a few 5.0's going on eBay when I got mine).
The CE 5.0 is completely unused (project was cancelled before I even got to start on it!); I installed 4.2 a while ago to make an OS for a device I was working on, but the project was abandoned in the end. I've since canned the PC it was on. Both products are "mine".
Just to clarify in case anyone is confused, Platform Builder is a tool that one uses to make an operating system to run on a device. I would *imagine* you could make an XDA ROM with it, if you had either some support from the device manufacturer, or were very knowledgeable - I made ROMs for a couple of ARM and x86-based "PC cards", and tweaked a ROM for a PDA-like card, but I don't know if XDAs are more complicated. You'd usually want an SDK to accompany the target platform, I think, and ideally an example ROM workspace. Sorry to anyone who already knows this, and hopefully I'm not talking out of my hat WRT XDA development (I only just found out what AKU stands for, I just didn't want anyone expressing an interest who didn't know what they were getting into (Platform Builder is IMO pretty hardcore! But OTOH, pretty good fun! You get lots of the WinCE source and can poke at it if you need to!)
Wrt terminology, I *belive* "Windows Mobile 5" is an implementation of "Windows CE 5", a bit like Ubuntu is a distribution based on Debian? OTOH I wouldn't like to bet, I found all the 4.2, .Net, CE, Mobile, Pocket PC nonsense very confusing, even at the time I'd always assumed that mobile 6.1 was based on CE6.1, but apparently it is based on CE5.2, which I guess means CE6 doesn't exist, so go figure
Windows Mobile 2003 was certainly an "implementation" of CE 4.2, because Wikipedia says so.
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nevermind. there is a free (120-day) evaluation here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downLoads/...50-D311-4F67-9FB3-23E8B8944F3E&displaylang=en
This is enough to build a device driver... right?
Windows CE 5.0 and Platform Builder 5.0
5thWheel said:
Hi,
I'll put it on eBay at the weekend and post the link here: was it 5.0 or 4.2 you were interested in?
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Windows CE 5.0 and Platform Builder 5.0.
windows ce plat form builder 3
well if anyone who has a palm treo 800w and you want to use the verizon 800w update will need platorm builder 3 to use the update im reading in the update what i need to update it i will paste it here if anyone can help i would really like it
well here is what is written
joplin image updater 1 connect usb cable to board 2 open platformbuilder 3 open fashbin workspace 4 attach 5 flip wifi switch to down load image ehen it goes on to describe errors that you could get like bat to low to update well i want to know if anyone can come up with any ideas im going to see if i can get the files mentioned and ill upload then if i can
anyone got a link to or put me in right p2p direction for platform builder 7?

Standalone WM6 Rom Emulator?!?!? Could it be?!?

I was just browsing the internet and I came across something VERY interesting... They say it is a standalone WM6 Rom emulator. I don't know whether or not to believe it but I know I can't try it right now. My XP partition is kinda small(40gigs) and my computer really doesn't have the Ram to run Vista anymore since I re-installed Norton 360 but I think this is something that deserves some serious attention here.
If this really works then we could potentially use this to test roms before flashing and hopefully avoid bricks in the future.
PLEASE, someone has to take a look at this...
http://www.chrisrue.com/funboard/comments.php?DiscussionID=11&page=1#Item_0
Nothing new as far as I understand it.
It is about Microsoft emulator (it has its own ROM images).
You can emulate WM 6 on a PC (with MS Visual Studio or a standalone emulator). I guess most of people know that.
*But you cannot emulate your own Wizard ROM*. This was discussed multiple times here...
Mirek
First, thanks for the linkage.
Before the release of the full standalone emulator package, I was able to use the Orcas VS beta release to install, then slide some pieces of the WM6 SDK into a rough "standalone" config. Thought it might be helpful for other folks looking to get some time with WM6 while avoiding any bricking risk to real hardware.
Since the release of the full standalone emulator package, including WM6 emulator ROMs, that linked post/thread doesn't actually mean a whole lot.
I've got some additional items on DEmu 1.0 and 2.0 using both WM5 and WM6, which can be found here:
http://www.chrisrue.com/funcave/2006/06/wm5-device-emulator-index.html
http://www.chrisrue.com/funcave/2007/03/device-emulator-v2-index.html
As stated already, the standalone emulator package doesn't really offer any benefits for cooking or testing hardware specific ROMs.
And many MANY thanks to the amazing technicolor pool of genius here at xda-developers. You've saved my bacon more times than I can count. So thanks for that!

Android on Prophet ?

does the current hardware support Android ?
If it does, anyone knows when we can expect an alpha release ?
nah, don't think so. If you've watched something on the video it seems that its gonna need quite a lot ram and video memory
I read that it has quite low hardware requirements and that most of the currently available devices have the capability to run android. So I hope that our beloved prophet will be running it, too.
I'm really waiting to see it on my Prophet
What about PDAVIET can he do it >?????
good idea
i hope prophet support
SDK available here!
Enjoy!!
Has anyone managed to run android on prophet yet? I've seen several reports of android running htc touch's around the tubes. Lets make this happen shall we, even is its unusable, just for the sake of saying, "look, that's android on my super prophet.punk."
thanks.
Haret seems to boot
It starts booting the kernel
Then fade to white
When pressing power button dump back in windows.
Seem to get quite somewhere, any people who like to try?
Used this files:
http://www.myhtcphone.com/downloads/14-files/3-file-for-automatic-and-easy-installation
The android kernel as released by Google doesn't have support for alot of the hardware devices in the prophet, including the OMAP850. Linwizard does, so the first stage of getting it to work will be getting the two kernels in sync.
That said, the prophet is below the minimum ram and rom specs for android so its unknown whether it will actually be able to run or not. I suppose one could try restricting the emulator and seeing how it runs with limited memory before jumping in to the kernel conversion.
eemmmmm.... seem like prophet hardware wont support for Android...
ANDROID 0.8 boots on prophet
Hi,
After trying a lot of zimage and android images with haret, i finaly found one that boots with prophet. It's a 0.8 ANDROID made for the HTC Wizard ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403015&page=4 ). It is really slow and really few hardware is supported but it's a good step to start a good port for our prophet.
Thanks to Patoche for his work on the wizard. Hope he will continue and some people join the projetct.
will definitely try

Linux without HaRET? U-Boot impossible to use?

Hi there!
As I am using an HTC Touch now, I have a spare Magician which I want to try Linux on.
I have seen many projects like openMOKO, GPE etc. on the net, but they all have in common that HaRET is used to start on the Magician. What I would like to do is to flash a Linux-Image over the WM2003 (i. e. directly into the internal flash), so I have kind of a "native" Linux PDA.
AFAIK, the boot loader "U-Boot" is able to boot an HTC Hermes, so what is the problem with Magician? Does it contain such incompatible hardware or is it due to lack of interfaces (serial port, hardware console to control U-Boot etc.)?
My experience level: I have built some embedded Linux Systems based on WiFi Router boards (Realtek, MIPS), but this is my first ARM/Intel PXA project. So I am somewhat concerned not to brick the device right at the beginning ;-)
Thanks,
Schlot
linux on magician!
schlot said:
Hi there!
As I am using an HTC Touch now, I have a spare Magician which I want to try Linux on.
I have seen many projects like openMOKO, GPE etc. on the net, but they all have in common that HaRET is used to start on the Magician. What I would like to do is to flash a Linux-Image over the WM2003 (i. e. directly into the internal flash), so I have kind of a "native" Linux PDA.
AFAIK, the boot loader "U-Boot" is able to boot an HTC Hermes, so what is the problem with Magician? Does it contain such incompatible hardware or is it due to lack of interfaces (serial port, hardware console to control U-Boot etc.)?
My experience level: I have built some embedded Linux Systems based on WiFi Router boards (Realtek, MIPS), but this is my first ARM/Intel PXA project. So I am somewhat concerned not to brick the device right at the beginning ;-)
Thanks,
Schlot
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hi dude..
i jus tried the OPENMOKO(linux) on my magician it looks very promising but most of the features r not yet working properly..plus i tried alot but wasnt able2 find even d sound settings it seems very complicated at this stage but hope ppl developing it might make it much more better n user friendly..
The speed of responding is another issue but i can say 1 thing the graphics the gui is flawless..loved using it for around 2days den was bugged so switched back to TX 2.03 rom which presently seems d best..
just hope some 1 in our forums may b some senior member takes interest n tries to develop a wm6 or atleast wm5 for our magician..
Hope the best.
Regards Chigz.
HaRet was download Linux kernel in memorie (where been windos),becoase HardReset.
sorry for poor eng.
chigz said:
hi dude..
i jus tried the OPENMOKO(linux) on my magician it looks very promising but most of the features r not yet working properly..plus i tried alot but wasnt able2 find even d sound settings it seems very complicated at this stage but hope ppl developing it might make it much more better n user friendly..
The speed of responding is another issue but i can say 1 thing the graphics the gui is flawless..loved using it for around 2days den was bugged so switched back to TX 2.03 rom which presently seems d best..
just hope some 1 in our forums may b some senior member takes interest n tries to develop a wm6 or atleast wm5 for our magician..
Hope the best.
Regards Chigz.
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I also tried OPENMOKO and I agree it does not seem to be that stable atm.
However, I am not interested in putting WM5 or WM6 onto the device, as I already have a WM6 phone. I just want to play a bit with a mobile Linux system ;-)
Has there been any progress, schlot - or did you loose interest?
excogitation said:
Has there been any progress, schlot - or did you loose interest?
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Hi, I have not really lost my interest, but I am working on a few other projects which I (or other people) actually need, while I am going to try this one here just for fun - which makes an "ultra-low-priority"-project out of it ;-)
So sorry, there is no progress yet...
But I did some experiments with linux on router hardware, so I understand more and more what embedded devices work like.
Cheers,
Thomas

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