Any phones planned to be above the WVGA resolution? - General Questions and Answers

This is just something I have been wondering about lately.

WVGA+
Hi
I don't think Windows Mobile as an OS supports a screen resolution above WVGA, but I could be wrong. I guess support for higher resolution screens may be implemented in WM7.
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andrew-in-woking

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VGA hack

hi i hav been lookin around and i noticed that the universal had been hacked from qvga to vga which gives the screen a higher reselution..
is it possible 4 the kaiser or would we need the missing video driver in order 2 do that?
i would prefer it if i had a higher res for my kaiser!!
where do i even begin........the universal was not "hacked" to make it vga, it was made with a vga screen
NYDITOT Virtual Display?
http://www.nyditot.com/Home.asp
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alexsandros said:
hi i hav been lookin around and i noticed that the universal had been hacked from qvga to vga which gives the screen a higher reselution..
is it possible 4 the kaiser or would we need the missing video driver in order 2 do that?
i would prefer it if i had a higher res for my kaiser!!
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all i can say is...... wow
good grief lazyracer. what a damn signature.
I'll flash my Kaiser with my 2232BW's firmware ... will it run on resolution 1680 * 1050?
pinx said:
I'll flash my Kaiser with my 2232BW's firmware ... will it run on resolution 1680 * 1050?
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with ease
vga uni only.
alexsandros said:
hi i hav been lookin around and i noticed that the universal had been hacked from qvga to vga which gives the screen a higher reselution..
is it possible 4 the kaiser or would we need the missing video driver in order 2 do that?
i would prefer it if i had a higher res for my kaiser!!
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sadly tytnII is not native VGA like universal is.
However, universal os was not written for vga-support at once. Some ppl has made their own software to get support for VGA in the phone and email. Browsing was still VGA on the universal. You can try to tweak the pixelsize, but you will never get VGA as the screen is only qvga.
The best vga rom for universal i think is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332737
br
daniel
pinx said:
I'll flash my Kaiser with my 2232BW's firmware ... will it run on resolution 1680 * 1050?
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uh ur gonna put the firmware of a computer screen on ur kaiser... wat r u on bout
matheprat said:
NYDITOT Virtual Display?
http://www.nyditot.com/Home.asp
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thats wkd man thanks
alexsandros said:
uh ur gonna put the firmware of a computer screen on ur kaiser... wat r u on bout
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Kidding, don't take me seriously.
I tried to tell you in a little sarcastic way it's not possible
If you wanted a VGA screen perhaps you might consider investing in a newer phone, as QVGA is exactly that: quarter VGA - it can't be hacked as its 'resolution infers how many pixels the screen has.
There are now a healthy number of Windows Mobile devices coming onto the market with VGA (and higher) displays - in fact there are OLDER phones than the Kaiser with higher than VGA screens, such as the Toshiba Portege G900, so if screen real-estate is an issue it might be worth trading your Kaiser in.
Unfortunately despite its majestic specifications the kaiser suffers from HTC's unwillingness to put VGA screens on their smaller handsets despite the fact that the technology is there and affordable. Perhaps they have a massive stockade of these bog-standard 64k 2.8inch displays.....who knows.
Sometimes it would be nice to have VGA display on TyTN II, but clearly I don't really mind. It's quite enough for me and its backlight is very bright.
Nice display I have to say, even if it's old and has color depth only 65k.
As for alexsandros, you should check Glofiish X800 or M800.
Seems like a Kaiser's rival, with VGA diplay (if you don't mind X800 is as ugly as ****)

Is it possible to change the resolution to 480 x 640 ?

Hi boys and girls, maybe some of you will find my question absurd, but that`s because they have not seen, what i saw a couple of weeks ago. A know a guy who owns one of those unpopular ASUS PDAs, and a couple of weeks back, he showed me that some Russian guys managed to change the resolution of his device from 240x320 to 480 x 640, which was amazing ... everything was looking so much better ... hence i thought it wasnt such a big deal, because i thought his pda`s screen has more colors than the TC as well, but seems like it wasnt that ... a friend bought the Touch Diamond 2 days back and when i saw the display i was amazed how nice everything looked ... no crappy color transitions ... all colors were so smooth ... so i told him how frustrated i am that htc didnt place more colors on my display as well ... later to realise that actually the diamond and the touch cruise have the same ammount of collors ... which takes me to my question ... does someone know if its possible to change the resolution of the Touch Cruise from 240x320 to 480x640 ? I`m sure alot of people will be interested in that as well.
You cannot change the resolution to anything higher than the hardware supports. The Cruise supports 240x320 and that's it. The diamond and Asus you saw has 480x640 support. When running these vga devices you will get a lot better graphics if you switch from stretching a 240x320 application to 480x640 compared to running a native 480x640 application.
It's like saying that you saw a guy going from black-and-white to full color on his color tv, and asking if that's possible on your old black-and-white travel tv as well.
NOT possible. Touch Cruise/Polaris have 320*240 pixels (76800 pixels).
You CAN'T split 1 pixel in 4 parts. It is not possible and never will be.
As strange as it may sound, i've seen a tablet PC that actually allows you to set a "higher than native" screen resolution. The driver simply scales the output image down to the native resolution, and yea, it looks terrible.
PS: To the original poster, don't get it wrong, you can't increase your screen resolution this way, just the resolution windows "thinks" is supported, and it looks like crap. Neither i ever seen this done on WinCE/WM.
After i made the post i talked with the guy who did that ... and yes he said it was due to to a software change of resolution and doesnt have the full potential of the VGA screens ... sadly i`m stuck to the not so nice looking display of my TC ... hopefully i`ll upgrade to a better device in the near future ... though it might not be a HTC, having in mind what they did regarding the 3D drivers ... i`m a bit dissapointed ... Thanks guys for the answers.
dotpocket
There is a program that allows you to change youre device's resolution to 480x640 but it just makes everything smaller. its called dotpocket.

From QVGA to VGA

Just a random thought I had. I own a Fuze and I love the 480 x 640 resolution of the screen. If someone gave me a phone with anything less than a VGA resolution I think I would go crazy. I saw my old Mogul laying around and decided to turn it on to compare both screens. What a difference! So, do you think you (VGA owners) could ever go back to QVGA?
i did, sold my touch pro and used my vogue. it was a hella big difference at first but when you get used to it, you will barely notice the difference
the biggest place where i miss my vga screen is when im web browsing
mike21pr said:
i did, sold my touch pro and used my vogue. it was a hella big difference at first but when you get used to it, you will barely notice the difference
the biggest place where i miss my vga screen is when im web browsing
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That sucks that you had to sell your TP. I can see how one would get used to the screen resolution again though, but for me it would be really hard.
I voted no, however I would have to agree with mike. For purely phone related tasks VGA is not necessary, however once you use the more "advanced" functionalities like web browsing, third party apps, VGA becomes quickly the minimum resolution, especially for web browsing.
VGA works great for me with my 3.5" 640 x 480 pixels, Just in 2008 devices started to make this screens and my Universal is from 2005!!
QVGA I really don´t like it
WVGA never used...
Awesome, that's sweet! palmares assurance vie​
VirgilIantu said:
Awesome, that's sweet!
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Welcome to the forum
May I know what is sweet?
It's def a big factor in choosing a phone, but sometime a qVGA phone is better. Like Omnia vs Diamond. Either way, I prefer my Storm's screen
TheChampJT said:
It's def a big factor in choosing a phone, but sometime a qVGA phone is better. Like Omnia vs Diamond. Either way, I prefer my Storm's screen
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I had no idea the Omnia was only QVGA. I figured it was such a well-rounded device and expected the VGA screen, but I guess not.
The Storm does have a beautiful screen though. I'll give you that. I'm really starting to regret getting rid of the Storm...
I can't have less than my Fuze's VGA screen. WVGA or higher is next for me!
BTW, what is the name for screens with res 360 x 640, like the Omnia HD and Idou. I googled it but no go . . . it may be "qHD" though?
adeltaY said:
BTW, what is the name for screens with res 360 x 640, like the Omnia HD and Idou. I googled it but no go . . . it may be "qHD" though?
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qHD sounds good, but I doubt that's the name for it. Actually (and I could be completely wrong) I think 360 x 640 is still considered VGA. I think that maybe once it gets to a certain amount of pixels it would change up to the next level. I don't think I know what I'm talking about.
I had my HD, and i thought that all WM devices look like this until my brother got an Omnia, and i thought something was wrong with the device. Thats until i found the difference was WQVGA and WVGA.
BIG difference in quality, so no it will be hard to go from VGA to QVGA, but you will get used to it.
I've got the Blackstone, and briefly had the Omnia in my hand.
Returning to QVGA is pretty much impossible after you've got used to >= VGA.
However, the difference is not the screen real estate, but the DPI. Once you get used to a higher definition screen, it's horrible to go back to the ill defined QVGA screens. However, a small VGA screen still looks great, but a physically large QVGA screen looks even more hideous! (I recently had reason to pull out my IPAQ, the original ancestor to modern Windows Mobile devices, and was surprised to see that the screen was bigger than the Blackstone, but no where as well defined).
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MY Diamond screen cracked and my insurance company said they could not replace it, so offered me a £350 cheque. as I was due an upgrade in 3 months (1 month to go) I took their cash and banked it decideding to go back to my old artemis for a few months.
Whilst VGA is sooo much better, you can survive with QVGA. However I am happy with it because I know it is temporary till mid june (ish) when I get a TD2

[Q] Ice Cream Sandwich Resolution

Hi, I know this is probably a stupid question. But I was wondering if anyone knows that when Ice Cream Sandwich is released will be also be getting the 1280 by 720 resolution (essentially 720p) or is this limited by hardware and not software?
can your 19" computer monitor do 2560x1600?
its a hardware limitation...nothing software can fix
The screen res can't be set higher than its native res. the GSII's WVGA can't be set to 720p
I didn't know it was hardware limited. I can set my 1080p monitor to 1024 x 768 .. but that's software limited. I thought the Samsung Galaxy was like that since it's such a powerful phone. But I was wrong, so sorry for asking a question..
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I didn't know it was hardware limited. I can set my 1080p monitor to 1024 x 768 .. but that's software limited. I thought the Samsung Galaxy was like that since it's such a powerful phone. But I was wrong, so sorry for asking a question..
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1024x768 is a resolution LESS than 1080, obviously. i didnt ask you if you could DOWNGRADE your resolution via software...your 1080p monitor will never run 2560x1600 no matter what software you run...
if the hardware in this phone was actually capable of a higher resolution, dont you think they would have run it at that? i mean, thats a huge selling point on some of the other 4.5 inch devices. the resolution + LTE would have made this phone kill sales of a lot of other phones. its not like Gingerbread has a resolution limitation, so if it was just software, they could have released it with a higher resolution, again assuming the hardware would support it.

5.3" device: question about cpu

Does a larger touch screen With same resolution need a faster cpu?
My doubt is about larger touch screen, not actual screen size. Would touch-scrolling run smooth With 800x480 resolution and 5.3" size?
This could be The case: use blu studio 5.3" screen With ZTE tania hw.
If the screen is of same resolution, the load on the SOC is the same.
illegaloperation said:
If the screen is of same resolution, the load on the SOC is the same.
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Thanks. I hope bluproducts (and other minor manufacturers) will offer WP devices soon.
MS should give WP to manufacturers for free and ask a fee for xbox live/bing maps only (the way nokia is doing With its maps)
Displaying the same resolution uses the same CPU cycles regardless of physical screen size. However, a larger screen size might require a more detailed touch-sensor grid and I'm not sure if that would result in more CPU cycles or just greater battery drain (relatively speaking).
but on big screen lags are more visible!
so from user experience point, large screen devices need better CPU
PoisonWolf said:
Displaying the same resolution uses the same CPU cycles regardless of physical screen size. However, a larger screen size might require a more detailed touch-sensor grid and I'm not sure if that would result in more CPU cycles or just greater battery drain (relatively speaking).
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that's exactly what I was asking.
I'd try produce a 5" WP with 1Ghz for 199 similar to the blue studio offer
Cotulla said:
but on big screen lags are more visible!
so from user experience point, large screen devices need better CPU
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WP7 doesn't lag.
Sent from my SGH-I897
MikeyMike01 said:
WP7 doesn't lag.
Sent from my SGH-I897
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That's right. Unfortunately ZTE didn't release a 5" WP but just another 4.3"
A 199 5" WP would sell very very well.
Unless they tweak the god damn OS to a new level with higher resolution... i don't want any kind of devices that i have to see my pictures as numerous of square pixels (visibly)
And i don't think that you would ever have WP on a tablet and 5.inch is something related to a tablet, not a phone anymore. my Titan is 4.7 inch and it has touch the lowest PPI and the size of my pocket.
Strike_Eagle said:
Unless they tweak the god damn OS to a new level with higher resolution... i don't want any kind of devices that i have to see my pictures as numerous of square pixels (visibly)
And i don't think that you would ever have WP on a tablet and 5.inch is something related to a tablet, not a phone anymore. my Titan is 4.7 inch and it has touch the lowest PPI and the size of my pocket.
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resolution is fine imo. 10" netbooks are usually 1366x768 therefore 5" @ 800x480 are more than accettable.
regarding WP on a 5.3" tablet, why not ? you know women's purses sometimes are so small that no tablet could fit into them...

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