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Send/End Buttons Broke

My send and end buttons have some how gotten screwed up. When I hit the send button, it opens contacts, calendar and the phone app. When I hit end it opens the contacts app and this obviously is creating problems. can not remap the button correctly through the button mapping control panel item either. It seems my D-pad has gone to hell as well.
I have hard reset the device and this is still a problem. Does anyone know what I can do to fix this? Any help that you could provide would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
db

Help! I'm having the same problem, a hard reset doesn't fix it.

I'm sorry, unfortunately I never figured out how to deal with this and my D-pad died so I got a new PPC. Best of luck to you though.

Not a solution, but as an interim, you can use my prog VJKeyPress to emulate the send and end keys.
Sounds like a hardware problem. The old ipaqs used to use resistor arrays to detect which keys were being pressed. Sounds like a screw up in similar hardware perhaps? Warranty time me'thinks.
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HTC keyboard

rite theres a massive annoyin problem im having at the moment
at first i thought it was hard neways
basiclly what happens is when i type on the keypad i get this wierd problem where the spacebar dont work i mean i press it but it dont work AT TIMES
and i just get text like this il give an example
"heysh ows it going"
its really annoyin
i was looking at the keyboard fixes however theyre to remap buttons to symbols so i dont know
has anyone else had this problem
im running on HTC 6.1 3.03.405.0
Radio 1.64.06.04

shaji007 said:
rite theres a massive annoyin problem im having at the moment
at first i thought it was hard neways
basiclly what happens is when i type on the keypad i get this wierd problem where the spacebar dont work i mean i press it but it dont work AT TIMES
and i just get text like this il give an example
"heysh ows it going"
its really annoyin
i was looking at the keyboard fixes however theyre to remap buttons to symbols so i dont know
has anyone else had this problem
im running on HTC 6.1 3.03.405.0
Radio 1.64.06.04
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No Offense to you just want to drive this home to anyone reading....
DISABLE XT9!!

I was having the same problem. I was using one of dutty's roms. I switched over to sleuth v3.0. and its gone.. I figure the anti-aliasing on the fonts had something to do with it. i could be wrong. But its gone now

i'm having this problem with dutty's 4-29 rom...i don't have TX9 enabled and i agree it IS annoying!

I just posted something over here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391708&page=16 on what i believe you may be speaking about. I believe its a bug with the att 6.1 roms. Its seems many people havent really noticed it yet, and it gets really annoying when trying to text. I purposely didnt cook with this rom to see if the bug was fixed, but it seems apparent that its not!

JimmyMcGee said:
No Offense to you just want to drive this home to anyone reading....
DISABLE XT9!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=63520&d=1198925369

frustrating
Dayum, i just don't get it!!! so far with every 6.1(including the latest at the time of this post [06152008] ATT 19214 build with 1.65.20.29 radio) rom ive tested, the same glitch surfaces. I don't wanna hear anything about disabling XT9 because it is not the issue. The best way to see this error is to do this test: 1)open the messaging app as if your going to text someone 2)place the cursor in the texting field, change the sip to "letter Recongnizer" 3) now with your stylus, sweep going across only in the lower case "abc" field, going about 2 or 3 sweep a sec(as if your spacing in a text msg). while doing this you will noticed occasionally a line that will strike down similar to lightning! I believe this same thing happens when texting on the soft kb but you just cant see it! This error is a PITA, because it causes alot of misspells when using any other 3rd party sip or the soft kb! Can some of you guru's out there please help with a solution? Thanks!

i have the same space bar issue but i thought that it was hardware not software. also it seems as if my delete key is supper sensitive if i touch a button near the delete key it deletes damn near the whole word. it's really annoying. I have NEVER dropped my phone or anything and i have the t9 disabled.

hnic8705 said:
i have the same space bar issue but i thought that it was hardware not software. also it seems as if my delete key is supper sensitive if i touch a button near the delete key it deletes damn near the whole word. it's really annoying. I have NEVER dropped my phone or anything and i have the t9 disabled.
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The issue you described is not really what im speaking about. Basically it can go unnoticed while texting someone, especially if you text quickly, you would think that your accidentally pressing the wrong letters when actually its a glitch thats registering the wrong presses. For example; if im texting with the soft kb or the htc keyboard app, occasionally when i press "a" it'll register the press as if im pressing the left soft key or another letter directly below it, and this happens randomly with different letters and different presses! I've only ran into this error with 6.1 roms only, so far i have never experienced this with any of the 6.0 roms. Also, I'm only speaking about the soft kb or any 3rd party sips, The hardware keyboard works fine!

I really thought it was me typing wrong, although that's quite odd as I was txting without a problem before....
and I have two problems from the keyboard using dutty's rom:
"space key is somewhat lagging"
and,
the 'backspace' key sometimes got stuck in acting as a 'delete' key which is quite annoying. I have checked and it doesn't matter the 'Fn' is enabled or disabled, it just work as 'delete' until I soft reset it.

endiz said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=63520&d=1198925369
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...0&d=1198925369
WORKED LIKE A CHAMP!!! thanks!

Raphael hardware keys, remapping?

Has anyone come up with working solution for mapping hw keys?
I found this thread on Diamond, but no help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398280

I am using AEKMap to enable both latin/cyrillic input on my TP's hw keyboard. You may google it and give it a try.

There is no need for additional software, just follow this post and you'll get the answer. Worked for me.

Try AE Button Plus.
B.

I think you did not quite follow me here.
I dont mean to change layout of QWERTY, but hw-keys like "Back" and "Home" at front panel of TP.
This is becaus I find home and back quite useless and would much more prefer to have ALT+TAB (change program) and close program (REALLY close them, not leave running background as back seems to randomly do).

Taajuus said:
I think you did not quite follow me here.
I dont mean to change layout of QWERTY, but hw-keys like "Back" and "Home" at front panel of TP.
This is becaus I find home and back quite useless and would much more prefer to have ALT+TAB (change program) and close program (REALLY close them, not leave running background as back seems to randomly do).
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And that is EXACTLY what i also want to know....
The total lack of hardware-keys on this device is already disturbing enough, but being locked out of the option to remap any of them is truely horrid...
Anyone know of any reg-hacks maybe?

I've got Spb PocketPlus 4 installed btw, and it's got a button mapping function as well...
But when i go into the buttons map, some weird black icons appear with no name attached to it. Can anyone make anything of this? As you can see i've been able to map one thing only: the Spb close-button-contex-menu, which allows me to switch task KW-buttons only....
But this is not enough for me, i need ALT-TAB aswell and off course a VoiceCommand button.
And regrettably the Rapael doesn't have that many HW keys to start with...

I want also to use Home/Back buttons for different purposes,but I didn;t found a solution yet.

Gotten a step closer to what i really need over this weekend:
In the button dialogue (with extra generated buttons by Spb PP+4) there was only one other button that had a name...
So i tried this one and go figure: it seems to be the " <= " (or 'back') button. In the dialogue it's called the OK button. I've got it set to the close contaxt menu now, and mapped Voicecommand to long-pressed answer key...
So far, this setup is to my satisfaction, and after two months of use this phone finaly behaves completely the way i want it to...

Hi, guys.
See my post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2743845#post2743845
Hope this helps!
Cheers.

helped realy much !!! big thx for that nice instructions

You're very welcome, tk_berlin.
You be sure to let me know if anything in there doesn't make sense or you need any help with it.
Cheers from Canada!

ah cool to see a reply that fast ,)
hmm u got any further with finding out how to set the home button and the backwards button ?
Since the other htc user ,) wrote
In the button dialogue (with extra generated buttons by Spb PP+4) there was only one other button that had a name...
So i tried this one and go figure: it seems to be the " <= " (or 'back') button. In the dialogue it's called the OK button. I've got it set to the close contaxt menu now, and mapped Voicecommand to long-pressed answer key...
so it works with SPB PocketPlus ?
there must be a way to get it work wit the other tool

ah cool to see a reply that fast ,)
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Lol. I was on my machine all morning and had XDA open in one of my tabs.
Yes, you can map practically any button in AEBPlus no problem.
hmm u got any further with finding out how to set the home button and the backwards button ?
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AEBP will also *learn* any keys it doesn't have. So you could use the "Add Button" option, press your Home key, and away you go.
The way I have it set up, holding down the phone key will activate voice command (default behavior).
But remember, assigning commands to the Home or OK buttons (that "Back" button is actually an "OK" button) doesn't unmap what they normally do so you will always go home first and then it will perform <x>-function that you assign.
Personally, I don't like to program the Home or OK buttons because I find that they are "trickier" to press. What I mean is, if you tap the OK button near it's center or close to the left, it doesn't register a press. If you tap it sort of with the long part of your thumb (which is more natural when holding the device in one hand), it registers it. I've tried this with two TP's now and the button behaved the same way on both. Due to this, I find it unreliable to map anything to it.
In any case, as I mentioned earlier, the Volume buttons, Phone and End keys will be unmapped once you attach AEBP to them but the others will not.
Oh -- I forgot to mention, you can map the directional pad as well if that is your thing.
so it works with SPB PocketPlus ?
there must be a way to get it work wit the other tool
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It does work, but it sends an OK command first.
I wrote a little utility for hard-coded buttons such as these for another Pocket PC I had (an ASUS P527) called "DoNothing.exe" but we can't apply that work-around here. What I would do is replace the EXEs of apps the hardware keys called with my DoNothing.exe, but in the case of the TP, we definitely don't want to replace START.EXE (which I believe to be the likely EXE (haven't tested this)).
If I find a way to map those buttons reliably, I will let you know, tk_Berlin. So far tho, I've been quite pleased with just using the four buttons I mentioned. The more I use this device and the more I ponder my decision to stay with TFL3D instead of the normal WM interface, the more I realize that I don't need half the add-ons I used to use prior to having TF3D. I am accustomed to very, very, very *heavily* customizing my device, but the setup I have now works great and I really haven't lost nething from my old WM world. In fact, prolly gained a few CPU cycles and memory to boot.
I don't miss the Today Screen at all!!! Now that I think about it, I never really looked at it.
Cya!

Remove T9 black bar!!!

Hey fellow XDA-ers.
I hope that in this thread we can unite in finding a solution for the annoying t9 input mehod, without breaking the hardware keyboard.
What's the problem:
I want to get rid of the annoying black t9 input and autocomplete bar, and use the standard WM6.1 version.
What anoys me the most is when you type an address for sending text, you start by typing first name of for instance friends who share a first name, but have different last names, , as soon as you hit space for the lastname, the person with the first name that's on top of the list gets selected..ARG
I also hate the lag it introduces.
So getting rid of the black ezinput part of the keyboard.
This can be done by replacing the eT9 values in your registry at the layout to COMP (et9IME replace by compIME and so on) and this works for soft keyboard.
However, this "fix" breaks some stuff in your hardware keyboard (the SYM key for instance stops working, also you cannot get the euro sign or the pund sign by pressing fn E or fn W)
I of course want the best of both worlds, and especially miss the sym button for getting a "\" whilst typing in shortcuts
So, I have tried so much, but haven't found a solution yet.
Does anybody know how to get this "best of both worlds" option?

Does opening up the on-screen keyboard and hitting the T9 --> ABC switch help?

nope
It doesn't use autocomplete then when typing text, but you still get the black bar at the bottom whilst entering an address, and the space-issue (filling in word after space) is introduced.
I just want the behaviour as when eT9 replaced by comp (ei. you get a couple of suggestion in your screen in light grey boxes, in stead of on bottom bar in black) but with FULL use of my hardware keyboard.
I want to do this without installing all kinds of secondary software that slows my device down, but want to solve it at the root.
Hope I am explaining the problem clearly
But thanks for the reply..
Maybe we can figure it out..

known problem
I've done the t9 compIME registry change and to me, is a must. That black bar was SO annoying and decreased effectiveness.
I have noticed the hardware keyboard does get screwy after doing this.
Using Da_G's roms, he has solved most of the problems in some of his earlier roms. I think the only problem I have currently is a non-working "cent" sign (FN+_). I'll test this again after I flash to his latest Rom.
I think he solves this by implementing SOME of the t9 files. I'll follow up with more accurate results.

player911 said:
I've done the t9 compIME registry change and to me, is a must. That black bar was SO annoying and decreased effectiveness.
I have noticed the hardware keyboard does get screwy after doing this.
Using Da_G's roms, he has solved most of the problems in some of his earlier roms. I think the only problem I have currently is a non-working "cent" sign (FN+_). I'll test this again after I flash to his latest Rom.
I think he solves this by implementing SOME of the t9 files. I'll follow up with more accurate results.
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If that's the case, making a cab, or posting the necesary files to replace would be ideal.
Does your SYM key work?
sounds like a very good start

I had this same annoying error
I managed to get it to go away by
sliding out the keyboard
whilst pressing the green FN button hit the spacebar.
This brings up a small menu, select
ABC and bingo, its sorted.
Steveb

akky66 said:
I had this same annoying error
I managed to get it to go away by
sliding out the keyboard
whilst pressing the green FN button hit the spacebar.
This brings up a small menu, select
ABC and bingo, its sorted.
Steveb
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Tnx for your input Steve.
I allready have that set up, but as you will find, it does not get rid of the black bar during txt msgs to field input, if you know what I mean.
It also gives lag on the hardware keyboard input comapred to the comp ide input method, which I find anoying.
What I really want is just the old wm input and auto complete feature without breaking my keyboard.
but as said before, thanks for the input.
This way we can narrow it down and hopefully make the problem easier to understand.
Ta...

tried editing sym files
Tried editing and replacing the txt files in windows directory,
eT9.Raphael.0409.kmap.txt and eT9DeadKeys.txt and renamint the et9 to comp, no luck.
Anybody any suggestions?

akky66 said:
I had this same annoying error
I managed to get it to go away by
sliding out the keyboard
whilst pressing the green FN button hit the spacebar.
This brings up a small menu, select
ABC and bingo, its sorted.
Steveb
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I did that and the black bar is gone! No more annoying auto-capitalizing and duplicated words! Thanks a lot!

Not quite
Smaniac said:
I did that and the black bar is gone! No more annoying auto-capitalizing and duplicated words! Thanks a lot!
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It get's rid of the black bar whilst typing a text, however whilst typing an adress in the to field, you will notice that you still get a black bar and proposed name in the bottom of your screen.
This is actually eT9 still running, and slowing down your input, trust me on this
The "old" way, you'd get the proposed names next to your to field, in a light grey box, and you could scroll through them and use the space bar without getting it to autocomplete.

I normally type the first few letters of the persons name, and then use the left and right arrow keys to gp through the matching contacts. That does the trick for me

indeed
GaZ said:
I normally type the first few letters of the persons name, and then use the left and right arrow keys to gp through the matching contacts. That does the trick for me
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It does the trick and it is how I use it now.
It's just not the solution I am looking for.
I'm a bit wierd in that way, if I see it poping up, I know it's there and it just annoys me...
Don't you just love the way things were before
But thanks for the tip.

No luck here yet
I haven't had any luck yet, anybody else?
This issue is really starting to bug me

Any luck yet with removing the T9 Black bar? I am having this problem as well.

Me too!
i want the old way with the little grey box, it was so much better. It gave a number of people when you typed in a user name for sms and it also gave better autocomplete options.

Solve for all us
Try attached CAB guys from our famous Russian PDA professional. It's remove this bar completely.

yes it worked for me on Touch HD perfectly

Works
Igoran said:
Try attached CAB guys from our famous Russian PDA professional. It's remove this bar completely.
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TY it completely rocks on Touch HD.

Does this just disable T9 on the hardware keyboard? AND, when entering a contact into sms or email you get the grey list like before?
What about T9 for soft keypad/boards? How does it function now?
I stumbled upon your thread while searching for "disable t9 hardware keyboard".
I have the same problem on my Kaiser... Installed ezinput keypad/board and now have that 'damn' black bar. I'm getting used to it like 'GaZ' but dont really like it...
<<<UPDATE: Only selected abc over t9. Black bar still there.>>>>

use different sip
im not sure if this help but wasnt this issue introduced with the diamond sip set? maybe using different sips might get rid of it. or maybe replacing the new eT9 and using the old wm6 t9 instead in wm6.1 roms. just a thought

Is it just me? The "right" D-Pad button is KILLING ME!!

I might honestly have to abandon this phone for just this reason. I am always exiting out of programs cause that damn right press button is so unreliable. And i've read where you should be pressing, but it doesn't help. it is so sporadic as to what actually happens. I need reliability, and this d-pad is so not. Coming from the hermes which had lots of hard buttons i could have lived with a dpad like this (cause it's easier to get back to where u were), but since this hasn't got any buttons i need the dpad that much more to be on point.
Out of 10 presses of the D- "right" button, how many times are you all hitting it correctly?

once i figured out that the you have to press pretty far compared to the up & down, i havn't misclicked at all.
But you are right, its a pretty stupid design and I find myself using the touch screen much more because of it.

Dillsnik said:
I might honestly have to abandon this phone for just this reason. I am always exiting out of programs cause that damn right press button is so unreliable. And i've read where you should be pressing, but it doesn't help. it is so sporadic as to what actually happens. I need reliability, and this d-pad is so not. Coming from the hermes which had lots of hard buttons i could have lived with a dpad like this (cause it's easier to get back to where u were), but since this hasn't got any buttons i need the dpad that much more to be on point.
Out of 10 presses of the D- "right" button, how many times are you all hitting it correctly?
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You can try using Gscroll. works great as alternative to a d-pad

Correct
I get the same prob.. I haven't got the thickest of thumbs but somehow I keep missing the precise point needed to get this button to function. Just add this to the growing list of flaws.

The area just outside the outer ring immediately beyond the < > keys should allow you to scroll. You don't need to try and scroll using the inner ring circle.
Are you saying its not working this way?

It works this way for me, but it's not reliable enough to hit it 100% of the time. I think HTC dropped the ball on usability here. If you're on the edge of the scroller and press that should be a right, left, up down etc... when there is no clear button it's hard to press...
I'd gladly give up the nice look of the smooth face for some real buttons like my TyTn had.

Someone needs to design a new Dpad for this device!
Rplace the whole bottom panel with something better. Ie- a real Dpad and real buttons.
The Palm Treos have really nice Dpads. And for further inspiration, you can just look at any Nintendo device or controller.
How hard would it be ?

Check this out: http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1698

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Check this out: http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1698
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That's what I meant in my post. However, showing it is so much easier like the article you posted. Good find!

I know exactly what you mean. I keep hitting the home button.
So now I just don't use the D-pad at all