Does the magic by default or any other android builds support having two numbers on the same sim card?
And if so has anyone tried how you can call/text from a specific number?
Thanks in advance ppl
My friend this is a general question.. So it should be placed on the General threads... bla bla bla bla...
Now back to the answer.. I think that the question you are making is related to Twin SIM cards. This can have two numbers on the same SIM. If android will run use this cards without prob.. why not? Never tested, but If old phones can do it why not Android?
Not an expert on this but isn't all handling of this happening outside the phone and at the mobile provider ?
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Not an expert on this but isn't all handling of this happening outside the phone and at the mobile provider ?
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Yes, is out of phone question in my opinion too.. But, we can take this question if this phone is capable of reading Twin SIM cards.
Doesn't the phone OS allow the user to choose between numbers?
I posted this under the android subforum cause my question is if the OS supports it and not the hardware.
If the sim has 2 numbers you must be able to choose for example from which one to send an SMS from, or from which one to make an outgoing call.
This is something that android will have to handle.
Am I saying something incorrect here? :/
I managed to find the proper name for this twin sim thingie.
It's called ALS "Alternate Line Service" and is NOT supported by any Android device so far.
I'll try posting on the android google group for some more info.
http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-hero-hero-modaco-com/291775/line-2/
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Hello every one,
Using different cabs and advices from this forum, I managed to get using the native internet calling feature of my device.
I'm able to make calls, but something is still bothering me with the dialling process: I have to re-enter the entire phone number that I want to call before every call I place since my sip provider (Voipbuster) requires that the number starts with (00) plus the (international area code) while all my numbers in contact are stored like (+) plus (international area code).
Can any one helps me out with an Ipdialplan.xml model, that fixes this issue?
Of course, it should works no matter the total amount of digits the contact number includes. 11, 12 etc.
Thanks in advance.
Here you go
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa921921.aspx
ipdialplan
You can also have a look on my post, with an example :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1540809&postcount=3
Hello all
I've been reading this forum for some months now and i like the windows'es and informations i've found here on my Hermes device
But now i have some questions on using the often integrated tool field test.
I've found out that with the IMSI-catcher (german wikipedia as one of the sources), that are more and more often used semi-legal by the police(here in europe there are a lot of 'GA-90' devices sold to the police and other institutions), it is possible to listen to phone calls(man in the middle attack), by just 'emulating' the strongest phone-cell in the area, to which the device connects instead of connecting to the provider's cell.
I also read that it would be possible to find out if there was an imsi-catcher device active in the area near you or not. The only thing needed is a special monitor software (field test?) that observes the MNC(Mobile Network Codes) behavior(appearently you need 2 handy's from the same provider with the monitoring software running).
But they didn't explain exactly on which behavior you should pay attention.
Since I could use 2 windows mobile devices to test this out, I am searching for more detailled information on this subject, and the first place that came in my mind was xda-developers
I allready did search this forum for the subject imsi catcher, and the only thing I've found is this.
google result
so one person who tries to change hies imei number, and another one who doesn't seem to know exactly what an imsi catcher can do.
Is here anyone who knows more?
I know that where I live, there are pple who make abuse with IMSI-catchers(catching calls without the permission from a judge or similar, or even one time someone listening to his girlfriends phone calls to see if she's cheating(and she did and that was the reason he left her))And yes this one was a young policeman who told that to his friends and even was proud of it.
I also dislike the fact that the handy, instead of the encrypted one with the provider's cell, has an non encrypted connection to the imsi catcher(if not there would be no possibility for a listening man in the middle attack).
I also read about the cellphones from http://www.cryptophone.de/
Appearently they do allways have encrypted conversations even through an Imsi-catcher. But if that would be true, the other side will need the same handy to decrypt it again. Because it has to encrypt, the allready encrypted data traffic with the provider's cell, if not it can't allow any protection against IMSI -Catcher devices. I also ask myself if, depending on where u want to use it, the 2nd encryption could produce a to huge phone traffic that could result p.ex. in a robot voice...
Anyone who could light me up?
Or is there any software able of reencrypting the encrypted transfer on windows mobile devices?technically it should be possible(2nd phone dialer installed so you choose the normal one for normal calls and 2nd one for calls with pple who also have this software installed on their phones)perhaps not with an 256 bit encryption but perhaps with a 128 or 64 bit encryption...
BTW, if there would be anyone able to programm such a hot piece of software for windows mobile devices I wouldn't have any problem to donate him with paypal, and i suppose other pple would do the sameAnd no I don't wanna replace that by Voip or skype via HTC...
Thanks in advance
Patrick
So no one who knows more about this?
I would be very happy if i could at least test if they're really used that often as they say they are(where i live).
And since i could try it in different major 'cities' over here, i suppose catching a imsi catcher soon or later
I'm quite curios if all the pple, telling that there is a lot of abuse with these machines, are right, or if that's all nonsens...
It would be nice if a warning icon could be integrated into Windows Mobile or the dialer to indicate that a call is not being encrypted. Read the Wikipedia entry for IMSI-catcher for more info. I'm guessing CDMA is largely unaffected since the hole seems to rely on the UMTS spec's backward-compatibility with GSM.
I'd also like to note that Skype is the way to go for true endpoint to endpoint call encryption. You know, if you're a gangster or something and need to brush off the popos. It would be interesting to investigate whether the WM6 integrated VOIP stack requires authentication/encryption.
Hello!.
Hector From Spain!.
I have one "SIM DUO" from one company (movistar).
It is two phone numbers from the same phone company at only one SIM.
Anyone knows about aplication, settings, etc... to manage those numbers: change number, company name, etc...
Thanks in advance!!
hectorvf said:
Hello!.
Hector From Spain!.
I have one "SIM DUO" from one company (movistar).
It is two phone numbers from the same phone company at only one SIM.
Anyone knows about aplication, settings, etc... to manage those numbers: change number, company name, etc...
Thanks in advance!!
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I am not sure whether your current ROM has enabled the futures for due line SIM management but you check it under settings--->Personal--->Phone.
In there you should see a page in which you can change the settings for each line. If you don’t have those settings visible right now then get the little free application Advanced Configuration Tool 3.3 and enable those settings http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-advanced-configuration-tool.html
Hi! Let me introduce a tiny app, available in English in the moment.
This program shows a small info window during incoming/outgoing call. It contents country, region, city (or mobile operator) and LOCAL TIME in that place (worldwide)!
See latest comments and screenshots on cyrket (I'm not allowed to insert links)
Detailed popup customization is supported
The phone base I collected and created (many errors there were fixed by hands) was only available in Russian, but today I released English base, made with help of Google Translate
I know, such translation is buggy (but still much better I expected). I hope you'll help me and other users to have a complete and accurate information about calls - just email me right from the program menu about any issues or comment here.
World time also changes (for example, Russia lost two time zones this March) and if you find any error - post here or email me
You don't need to download phone base. You may download its latest version from the app, but if you want to do it manually, unpack the zip to the sdcard's root
How accurate does it get? I don't get many international calls, but might be useful to know where a landline call from within the UK is coming from?
What happens with mobile calls from with the UK? I assume no detail at all then?
it covers both landline and mobile network all over the world, where it is possible to distinguish between numbers by area codes. just try =) there are more than 25000 records in the base
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Hi. How do you set this up?
I have placed my Country Code (00351) and set GMT to +1 and when I call from my desk to my phone, it says it's a call from India ...
afaik, country code cant starts with zeros. Please, provide full number (you may hide last four digits) and right country for you I'll check and write settings here
Erm, I think techinally it either starts with two zeros, or a + but you're asking for a single number?
For example, UK is either 0044 or +44
wow. That is new for me. I know that with one leading zero start local calls. And you say two zeros replace + . hmmm. try left country code blank, that may help, I think. and if not, please, type whole number without four last digits
Not sure if this is already obvious but as there seems some uncertainty. AIUI the correct way to state an international number is to prefix it with +. To make a call, the plus sign is replaced with the two (or sometimes three or four) digit international access code which depends on the country one is placing the call from. For Europe this is 00, for the States, 011 etc.
I'm in Portugal, and my number is +35193233xxxx. I have tried leaving it blank, but by default leaves a 7... tried with 00351, with 351 and when calls are incoming still stays it's from India.
I'll wait for further clarification and if nothing happens I'll un-install it.
By the way, it doesn't let me use the +.
Thanks
okay, and what was the incoming number? what it was looking like on the call screen? country code preset replaces leading zero or eight digit. so it doesn't interfere number detection in you case I think
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The incoming number was looking like this: 91811xxx
It's a mobile number from Vodafone.
Just got a call from Germany, and it identified the Country and city allright. Seems that it doesn't work for calls inside Portugal only...
i see eight digits and no country info in this number. if there are seven digits program says local call and do not provide any information (because there is no trusted information) in eight or more digits it tries to detect country code. it replaces leading 8 or 0 with country code from the settings - for example local russian mobile calls may look like 8916xxxyyzz - we replace 8 with country code 7 and identify it with MTS - the program even say region or city based on x or xx or xxx in the example above. but in your situation I have no idea how to detect that the call is local and country code needs to be put before the number =( I've never heard that income mobile number may be in the format you wrote - it should start with plus sign and country code or 8 or zero (Ukraine, Moldova). I'm whirled
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Any chance you can convert the database into something human-readable? I'll be glad to cross reference a bunch of Southern California area codes and prefixes so that you can get some more accurate data there.
Also, a program similar to yours got hit with a cease & desist a few months back by some patent trolls because they supposedly hold a patent on this very thing. You're in Russia though so I dunno if their reach extends to you. Just thought I'd give you an FYI.
XStylus said:
Any chance you can convert the database into something human-readable? I'll be glad to cross reference a bunch of Southern California area codes and prefixes so that you can get some more accurate data there.
Also, a program similar to yours got hit with a cease & desist a few months back by some patent trolls because they supposedly hold a patent on this very thing. You're in Russia though so I dunno if their reach extends to you. Just thought I'd give you an FYI.
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please, email me a t r a n t . s g @ g m a i l . c o m (or from the program menu) to discuss db elements, thanks in advance.
and yeah... i've read that stuff and even contacted the author...
But, my program is better now, I think =) And I will hit 10000 downloads, I hope. That will be enough, I think, for my efforts and hand-made db =))
Uninstallation
How do i uninstall de database, can't find it but i takes 3 mb of internal memory. Anyone has a suggestion!!
castor.troy said:
How do i uninstall de database, can't find it but i takes 3 mb of internal memory. Anyone has a suggestion!!
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Just remove the DB app. There is no way to leave DB app and remove the DB, android OS restriction (can't modify signed apk on the device)
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So when i uninstall WorldCallPlaceAndTime.apk than de database will be removed from my internal memeory?
Castor
castor.troy said:
So when i uninstall WorldCallPlaceAndTime.apk than de database will be removed from my internal memeory?
Castor
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Sure, man! Do it right now!
when do you guys think microsoft will stop giving out the activation keys?
i think soon cause of this new rom, but i'm happy i got my key already. lol
I'm already suprised they don't verify imei numbers before giving it to you.
nrfitchett4 said:
I'm already suprised they don't verify imei numbers before giving it to you.
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that's extacly what i was thinking when they said for you to call MS to activate the phone.
nrfitchett4 said:
I'm already suprised they don't verify imei numbers before giving it to you.
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Because you're going to see a load of banned Live IDs for this...
This must only be in the US and I have a HTC Trophy 7 in the UK and working on my live account without activating
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This must only be in the US and I have a HTC Trophy 7 in the UK and working on my live account without activating
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because they're talking about flashed HD2's which require activation
I'd be wary about doing it just so I don't get Xbox banned
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because they're talking about flashed HD2's which require activation
I'd be wary about doing it just so I don't get Xbox banned
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hey i live in belgium and i flashed my omnia 7 more than 2 time and it never asked for id
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because they're talking about flashed HD2's which require activation
I'd be wary about doing it just so I don't get Xbox banned
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which is the reason why i made a new account,
i'm not trying to risk my main account you know... lol
nrfitchett4 said:
I'm already suprised they don't verify imei numbers before giving it to you.
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I have my imei and hd7 before so if they want it...I got it
my hotmail is also associated as dvp previously owned hd7
so I'm in the clear if microsoft has a problem
I Don't think they should have a problem anyways, it's not like WP7 is sky rocketting these days and this HD2 boost brings a lot of developers on board and a lot of attention, they are probably doind MS a favor... WP7 on the HD2 is the best thing that happend for WP7 since it launched, now with a far larger user-base, they can rack up money from Marketsales.
Besides, they can't check if you don't have an HTC HD7, they can probably ban all of those who activated their "HD7's" in the last week, but that will be very very wrong.
And lets say they do ban us, that will just make people mad and probably more anxious to hack the system even further.
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I Don't think they should have a problem anyways, it's not like WP7 is sky rocketting these days and this HD2 boost brings a lot of developers on board and a lot of attention, they are probably doind MS a favor... WP7 on the HD2 is the best thing that happend for WP7 since it launched, now with a far larger user-base, they can rack up money from Marketsales.
Besides, they can't check if you don't have an HTC HD7, they can probably ban all of those who activated their "HD7's" in the last week, but that will be very very wrong.
And lets say they do ban us, that will just make people mad and probably more anxious to hack the system even further.
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Love your logic. Actually, considering imei and serial numbers are device specific, if they would have asked, that would have stopped most people right there.
How many hd2's do you think are in the world? I don't think all that many. And how many xda members actually spend money on programs??? Most want them all for free.
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because they're talking about flashed HD2's which require activation
I'd be wary about doing it just so I don't get Xbox banned
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There is conflict when you have two sep phones with same account @live.com (ie: real wp7 and hd2-wp7) and then sign in at same time to try and use xbox live.
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Wondering how live pvk and id goes to phone in hd2-wp7 situation where no real device provisioning partition exists?!?!?!??! This leads me to think that maybe:
Perhaps with Cotulla's partition layout over 4 seperate nand areas it would be an option to modify this and his wp7 spl because the activation thing happened AFTER (live activation hack around etc) he had finished leo70 release and then..........
-whilst jtag/usb or eth/debug happening- (obviously you'd though of this b4- im just theorizing- let me know if way off)- to take a HTC HD2 (LEO70) that HAS BEEN ACTIVATED ON LIVE and see where/how/when/with/which partitions, filesys, regkeys, etc, have pvk for live or the ffu and then insert a test cert like ur own xbmod/chevron. or whatever is in sdk for 7 or ce. and then utilize this to diff and comp. I dont see why not. Then .ffu then self signature.[/QUOTE]
If anyone is looking at doing this and needs hardware or I can help let me know thanks. Also:
Anyway to DUMP the newly-activated after-hack after-key after-ms-call hd2 wp7 contents completely? Any news on this unknown filesystem and sd jbod with nand? If a way to extract device provisioning partition etc. Not interested so much in live but more HSPL-for-WP7 creation to allow custom roms. Can not seem to find much on this. Anyone got ideas on own signature or other method using pre-existing leo70 nand parts as workaround maybe?
For the record - I have used a singled live key from Microsoft activation phone call more than 4 times on 2 devices and it works fine over and over: you have to consider fact that if vendor or product id was misflashed at factory onto DPP then every hardreset would not wipe this (unsure)? eitherway:
does ne1 know what the key over the phone from microsoft is actual doing? is this key taken with say imei or serial of phone and maybe your @live.com unique GUID and seeded or used with hash or some algorithm to produce a pvk for device provisioning partition? or it simply override and enable live? are there only one type of activation key over phone? seems there could be ones maybe based on your live address+guid and ones that completely allow model and oem identification to be cleanly changed?
I am just theorizing here from what I have been reading. Finally: Is it true that uk/etc MS stopped giving out keys and referring ppl to HTC etc for key2live?
leo70 said:
Edit/Update:
Wondering how live pvk and id goes to phone in hd2-wp7 situation where no real device provisioning partition exists?!?!?!??! This leads me to think that maybe:
Perhaps with Cotulla's partition layout over 4 seperate nand areas it would be an option to modify this and his wp7 spl because the activation thing happened AFTER (live activation hack around etc) he had finished leo70 release and then..........
-whilst jtag/usb or eth/debug happening- (obviously you'd though of this b4- im just theorizing- let me know if way off)- to take a HTC HD2 (LEO70) that HAS BEEN ACTIVATED ON LIVE and see where/how/when/with/which partitions, filesys, regkeys, etc, have pvk for live or the ffu and then insert a test cert like ur own xbmod/chevron. or whatever is in sdk for 7 or ce. and then utilize this to diff and comp. I dont see why not. Then .ffu then self signature.
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If anyone is looking at doing this and needs hardware or I can help let me know thanks. Also:
Anyway to DUMP the newly-activated after-hack after-key after-ms-call hd2 wp7 contents completely? Any news on this unknown filesystem and sd jbod with nand? If a way to extract device provisioning partition etc. Not interested so much in live but more HSPL-for-WP7 creation to allow custom roms. Can not seem to find much on this. Anyone got ideas on own signature or other method using pre-existing leo70 nand parts as workaround maybe?
For the record - I have used a singled live key from Microsoft activation phone call more than 4 times on 2 devices and it works fine over and over: you have to consider fact that if vendor or product id was misflashed at factory onto DPP then every hardreset would not wipe this (unsure)? eitherway:
does ne1 know what the key over the phone from microsoft is actual doing? is this key taken with say imei or serial of phone and maybe your @live.com unique GUID and seeded or used with hash or some algorithm to produce a pvk for device provisioning partition? or it simply override and enable live? are there only one type of activation key over phone? seems there could be ones maybe based on your live address+guid and ones that completely allow model and oem identification to be cleanly changed?
I am just theorizing here from what I have been reading. Finally: Is it true that uk/etc MS stopped giving out keys and referring ppl to HTC etc for key2live?[/QUOTE]
I think the limit is 3 devices per key before MS drops the hammer.
microsoft germany support asked me for the IMEI of my HD7 (which is of course a HD2). the support guy entered the number i told him and i got an activation key.
i thought they maybe have a list of IMEIS from phones suitable for running WP7, but apparently not ...