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Blackberry/Windows Mobile/iPhone One SIM

Here is my question. I recently received a BlackBerry from my company. I want to be able to use the BlackBerry and Windows Mobile phone interchangeably. So for example if I want to use the BB one day, I take the SIM out of the Windows Mobile and put it in the BB. If I am running the BB data plan offered by T-Mobile, will the WinMo phone data still work? I will need the BB enterprise plan as my company wants me to hook it up to the BES. If I can't get both to work, I may just see about ditching the BB as I really love my Dash too much to part with, especially with all the work I put into getting it on WinMo 6.1
Anyone out there tried anything similar? One other thing, I also have an iPhone that I want to be able to use too. That will of course be jailbroken so that I can use it with T-Mobile as I will never give ATT a dime of my money. I like the luxury of choosing what phone I want to use for a particular day.

WinMo and iPhone basically use the same internet settings, so you're good there.
The real question is whether your BlackBerry data plan gives you access to a regular WAP. I've never used T-Mobile, so I have no idea.
Surely your BlackBerry data plan is more than the data plan for a WinMo PDA, so just call T-Mobile CS from your phone and ask if you can use the T-Mobile MDA or Wing with your BB plan?

jailbreaking doesn't sim unlock your iphone, by the way.
the iphone's sim sanctity is tighter than fort knox (theoretically)

Can't respond to T-Mobile, But I use my blackberry for work sometimes, take out my sim card and put it in my ATT tilt regularly and use blackberry connect to get my e-mail...it works interchangeably on ATT but you need to provision your device every time you move the sim card or you won't get e-mail...

I didn't want to use BB Connect to get my mail, just Pocket Outlook with Exchange Active Sync. I can get my iPhone to work with T-Mobile, I was really concerned with making sure all three devices work without much effort on my part once I get everything setup. I guess calling T-Mo is the way to go at this point. If anyone else has done this with T-Mobile, I would be interested to know.

What phones on Sprint can be used WITHOUT data plan?

My friend is interested in finding out if there are any HTC Windows Phones that can be activated with Sprint without a required data plan. This might switch him from his Blackberry.

Touch Pro 2 on AT&T

Well I decided to leave my cyanogenmoded (5.08) G1 and try out the backflip.
Im miserable.
This thing is stuck in 1.5 (i dont think i can endure that for too long and q3 looks like too long lol)
Not to mention its LOADED with att crap apps..
AND
Now ive lost my $10 a month unlimited family data... with the G1 att didnt seem to care that I had that- now this Backflip is announcing- identifying itself as a smart phone to the ATT network... so it automatically changes my plan to the $25 a month within 24 hours...
200mb for 15 is not enough data... i will surely go over and frankly i think i could go over 2gb (lots of email and browsing... youtube etc)
SO
Will the Touch Pro 2 announce it self to the att network as a smart phone? Will any unlocked tmobile phone do that? I was told that the G2 Hero will not via another post but I am liking the look of the touch pro 2 a bit more- especially if I can port android to it...

Yes any TMobile unlocked phone will work with ATT just not ATT 3G. You will be limited to Edge. Same as taking an ATT phone and using it with Tmo. You will only see an Edge connection. 3G on ATT and Tmo are on completely different bands. Other then that the phone will work as normal. I'm surprised you were allowed to keep your unlimited data plan. ATT killed those off last week. New deals are $15 for 200mg or $25 for 2GB. You may want to call ATT and just make sure you still unlimited because if you just renewed they might has pulled a switch on you.

maxpower097 said:
Yes any TMobile unlocked phone will work with ATT just not ATT 3G. You will be limited to Edge. Same as taking an ATT phone and using it with Tmo. You will only see an Edge connection. 3G on ATT and Tmo are on completely different bands. Other then that the phone will work as normal. I'm surprised you were allowed to keep your unlimited data plan. ATT killed those off last week. New deals are $15 for 200mg or $25 for 2GB. You may want to call ATT and just make sure you still unlimited because if you just renewed they might has pulled a switch on you.
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Well ATT did not let me keep the family data unlimited plan once I switched to the backflip...
I TRIED to do this quietly- I just threw my sim in the backflip and didnt say anything- but it sent me a text message a few hours later stating that it automatically signed me up for the 25/month data plan.
With the G1 it seems they (Att) did not know I was using a PDA - the G1 Did not report to the network that it was a PDA as the Backflip ( and I would assume any ATT PDA ) does.
What I am asking is- will the Touch Pro 2 (or any other NON-AT&T phone) act the same as the G1- could I tell AT&T that I am going to use my "Dumb phone" because I don't like the backflip (or what ever reason) - have them switch the Family data plan on for my line- and then put my sim card into a Touch Pro 2 and not have them know (as I did for the G1).
It would be nice if there was a list of phones that this is possible for... it would also be helpful if we knew HOW AT&T KNOWS that we are using a PDA - is it based on the IMEI number? Is there an android process or service or something in the background that announces it? Could we shut it down or change the ID number in such a way that AT&T's system would see a "Dumbphone" instead of a "Smartphone"/"PDA"
Just some thoughts...
Also- I understand that tmobile and att use different 3g bands and thus I would not get 3g- i don't care, frankly 3g is not that much faster than 2g (edge) any way.

No an HTC 8525 was the last phone I used where ATT or Tmo didn't pick up it was a smartphone and gave me the 9.99 unlimited plan. The HTC 8925 and up (TP2, TILT2, and HD2) all said "This phone is not compatible with this network, please call support to upgrade your plan." If I were you I would call support and blast the hell out of their ear. You should get the smartphone unlimited plan for $25, especially if you had a previous unlimited plan. All those are supposed to be grandfathered in. Tell then you never would have gotten the phone if you new you wouldn't be able to get unlimted data anymore. Its a new enough rule change they should be able to bump you up a couple support tiers and hook you up with the old unlimited plan. I know when they stopped doing the prepay plans they were calling accounts in for 2 weeks after the deadline until corperate said ok guys no more prepay its over. Then that actually quit selling it. So you should be able to get them to give you the proper unlimited plan. BTW what condition is your TP2? If its in mint I have a TILT2 I would be willing to swap. Then you would get ATT 3g. If you didn't know the TP2, TILT2, and Rhodium are all the same phone but different carriers.

Haha well the reason i was asking about this was because I wanted to see if I could use the TP2 on ATT with the 10 dollar family data unlimited plan... since apparently i can not I am not going to buy one lol :/.
At this point i need to find a phone that works on att, runs android, and allows me to use the 10 dollar unlimited plan without att recognizing the phone as a smart phone.
Does anyone have any suggestions? (other than the G1) Preferably something with a qwerty.
THANKS!

Not sure that phone exists yet, but who knows. I defenately know your not gonna be able to use your 9.99 data plan with any phones made in the past 3 years. They recognize the ime number and know its a smartphone now. ATT even puts what type of phone you used that month on your bill. I used his ATT sim card to unlock my phone, and he brought in his bill saying he used an iphone 21 days of the month and a Touch pro 2 for 1 week. I don't know why it said a week because it was more like 1 minute. But he said anytime he puts his ATT sim card in another phone it shows up on his bill as a new phone for a week.

Thanks- yeh its looking like G1 FTW!

Is there a hardware difference between the tilt 2 and tp2?

jwzg said:
Is there a hardware difference between the tilt 2 and tp2?
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Yes, the TILT2 has a chrome bezel around hte sides where the TP2 has black alum. The KB is different too. The TP2 has an actual QWERTY keyboard with numbers on top. The TILT2 merged the nubmers into the UIJKNM keys so you have to hit a function button then the number. Also the TILT2 is just a touch more modern feeling and looking. Even the slider feels like a higher quality. As for the internal chips I beleive they are the same except for the radio chip for different 3G networks.

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Yes, the TILT2 has a chrome bezel around hte sides where the TP2 has black alum. The KB is different too. The TP2 has an actual QWERTY keyboard with numbers on top. The TILT2 merged the nubmers into the UIJKNM keys so you have to hit a function button then the number. Also the TILT2 is just a touch more modern feeling and looking. Even the slider feels like a higher quality. As for the internal chips I beleive they are the same except for the radio chip for different 3G networks.
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The radio chip was what I was interested in. If the HTC TP2 rom will load on either device, will that allow the phone to run on either 3G network? I'm a Fuze owner so I don't have the first clue. I just would like to know.

The rom will flash on either device, but the 3G will not work on both ATT or Tmo. You will have to pick one or the other. Tmo runs on 1700mhz and 2100mhz, ATT runs on 850mhz? and 2100mhz. If you use a tmo phone on ATT you will just get edge, and vice versa.

Don't quote me on this, but it all has to do with what IEMI's ATT has is its data base, thats how the phone tells the network what kind and make the phone is.
The Nexus one for att 3g doesn't show up as a smart phone.....yet

TP2 T7373 (SEA edition) runs on Edge with ATT. $15 for unlimited. I once put my sim into a Blackberry and they switched my plan to $25/m. I took my sim out, put it back in my TP2 and then called them. They asked me the IMEI # and switched me back to the $15/m unlimited (MediaNet). Hope this answers your question.

HTC TP2: Cm7 vs WinMo
I do not know whether to turn to you below: : Confused:
Recently, they have gained from a TP2 that already had android 2.3.7.
I want the phone to 7.2.0-RC1-Hero Caynogenmod was changed back to WinMo, but only forum I read that the WinMo on how to make android (or next)!
Very slow and unstable for mal (as iron is not present).
Please help me, especially in how the program could be "android HTC TP2 is connected to the PC to WinMo to make him know what to do, and then step by step.
Important! : Sírás: (not just the android to WinMo on the card next to it alone!)
(I want to stay next to the robot, but if more than 2 of the stability and the "speed" of the WinMo is OK!)
A big thank you in advance for your help! : Good:

Dude this thread is 3 years old, post in the touch pro2 section, type is name in search device box on top.

[Q] Can I avoid the AT&T data plan for smartphones on my G1?

Hi,
I just bought a used HTC G1. With AT&T, there is unlimited internet for non smart phones for $10. Is there any way(APN?) I can use that instead of the 200mb/2GB data plan which is alot more $$$?
BTW, I changed my data package to non smartphone and when I plugged my sim into the G1, I got a message saying that a smartphone data plan is required so it automatically enrolled me in.

saadmallick said:
Hi,
I just bought a used HTC G1. With AT&T, there is unlimited internet for non smart phones for $10. Is there any way(APN?) I can use that instead of the 200mb/2GB data plan which is alot more $$$?
BTW, I changed my data package to non smartphone and when I plugged my sim into the G1, I got a message saying that a smartphone data plan is required so it automatically enrolled me in.
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I'm not sure how you can sign up for the unlimited internet for non-smartphone with AT&T using G1, but here's my case:
I was already an existing AT&T customer & I had a Motorola RAZAR V3 before I got a G1.
I bought a T-Mobile G1 from Craigslist & unlocked it (You have 3 choicea: 1. you can ask one of your T-Mobile friend make a call to T-Mobile unlock it for free, or 2. you can buy the unlock service from eBay, or 3. find an authorized cel phone selling company who offers such service for a fee), then input the APN setting listed below on G1 (if you need more detailed step-by-step instructions, you can try this blog post, but I can't remember if that's the site I followed the setup), then I added AT&T's unlimited medianet data plan (which was offered plan at that time, I think that's back in 2008 or earlier when I did this), as there's no such data plan offered via AT&T anymore - they put me on the unlimited data plan when I switched to Family plan on my account with my family in 2010.
Here's the APN setting works with AT&T - this is what I have on my G1 and it works just fine for everything (except mms - because G1 doesn't have compatible built for AT&T carrier on this particular service):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2822243&postcount=9
The person claim this setting works well, but I haven't tried this setting (it's a false claim on this post that this setting will get you onto AT&T's 3G network), so other than no 3G network, I don't see what this setting benefits you from the previous setting listed above:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4170196&postcount=232
Just thought you might want to know that you can only get onto AT&T's 2G (Edge) network using a G1 cel phone on AT&T carrier:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4121306&postcount=230

[Q] Nexus S i9023 willing to use ATT without Dataplan possible?

Hi guys been reading on forums about att automatically detecting smartphones but some say its ok if the phone is unbranded and some say any phone it might be ATT will be able to detect it...
My Question is
I have a Nexus s i9023 bought in india now i am in USA i already bought an ATT connection which i am using on a samsung [dumbphone](i activated the sim with the imei of that dumbphone) ..I would like to know if ATT will be able to detect my phone as smartphone if i switch that sim onto my Nexus S and activate a dataplan??
PS: i will disable data by all means...using CM7.1..will use Wifi only

HI,
When I was in US last year - I purchased multiple connections - initially from AT&T and then from T-Mo.
AT&T - My phone was a Nokia 5230 then and I threw the dumbphone into bin and used my 5230 without any issue. I was on a $50 plan with unlimited talk & text and 500MB data.
T-Mo : Same experience, this time I just bought a sim. Not even a dumb phone. You can walk into any of the T-Mo showrooms and get one. Or buy a dumb phone + plan and use it..
As a matter of fact, I have a friend in US who is using a Galaxy S with a T-Mo sim taken out of an dumb phone.
Thanks, J

hey thanks for the reply!!
Well i know abt the scenario of t-mobile... i would like to stick on to att... so i wanna know if att would be able to recognize my mobile as a smartphone and charge me a dataplan accordingly...

NP man.. Hit Thanks if i helped
I don't think so. Are you on a postpaid plan?
I just confirmed that you could get the Sim only connection from AT&T too. Prepaid connections are generally bundled with dataplans and they stop working once you cross the limit

Thanks man...
My ques is if i swap the sim does ATT automatically recognize nexus s as a smart phone ?? coz of it does it subscribes to the dataplan into my account...:|

yes they will detect your phone eventually.
if you are under contract they can enforce a data plan requirement
i was looong off contract when i switched to a crackberry
but had data blocked on my account
they never tried to force me onto a data add...
fwiw

we threw my old captivate on our sons dumbphone line, turned off data on the phone and AT&T has not said a thing. The account shows the smartphone on it, but no data plan is being forced.