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Hello Everyone,
I have a T-Mobile USA SDA and had a problem with emails on the device.
Not sure if it is working as designed or if there was a blug, so I thought I would float it by you guys.
Setup:
Mail client on T-Mobile USA SDA
Configured manually to check pop and send smtp with my gmail account. It is set such that the message headers are downloaded first.
I connect WIFI and send/recieve
I receive a header I had sent myself for testing
I click on it and select to download the message body.
I go back to the inbox.
I do send and receive.
I receive the message body.
I read it.
I go back to the inbox.
I do send and recieve.
Result:
The message is removed without a trace. it is not put into deleted items folder, nor does it remain in the inbox folder.
Is this expected behavior? I am not allowed to store mail on my device? Is there a registry setting to change this behavior? There is no options within the application. Is there a registry setting to change wheremails are stored in general? thanks for seeing the barrage of questions!
Yes I got the same result with you. Mine is a Dopod 577w (Tornado in Taiwan). This behaviour also happens to other mail servers.
ni hao,
I had searched a bit about it and found some places explain it. The explanation sounds weak, but it looks like something we will have to live with until either gmail or ms changes their server or client software.
USENET:
Sat, Mar 4 2006 7:24 am
The problem is with the default behaviour of Gmail - it will "hide" all the
already-downloaded mail. Unfortunately, it seems not even now that the beta
phase is long over can you effectively override this behaviour - the POP3
radio buttons just don't stick in the Settings window.
Therefore, the best solution IMHO is switching to an alternative e-mail
client that doesn't remove the messages that are not available online any
more from the local view. The alternative mailer clients FlexMail and Qmail
are like so - see the row "Does it only display mail that is still on the
server? " in the comparison chart of my mailer client roundup at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1 . Of the two,
FlexMail offers scheduling capabilities.
PocketPC MAG:
Does it only display mail that is still on the server? : one of the most-criticized problems with Messaging is that it does not show older messages (messages that have been deleted in the meantime) in the Inbox unless you explicitly (mass-)move them to a separate folder. As can be seen, it's, in addition to Messaging, only nPOPw that deletes the messages from the local view that don't exist on the server any more. The other mailer applications don't.
I might just write a pop/smtp client software myself. Much easier to tweak it to do what I need it to do, and in my previous job I worked for an email client so I know those protocols well. I probably won't add advanced functionality or IMAP/Exchange, because I have no individual use for those.
Very Useful info.
My current solution to this issue is Outlook & ActiveSync. Just download your mail to PC and sync. Mail in mobile Outlook account will not disappear unless you delete them.
By the way, I think Gmail mobile website is also okay for mail browsing & composing.
(it is not a good experience posting reply here using Pocket IE)
I'd like to write a mail client using .NET CF just for fun if I have time. I'm not a C++ guy.
Hi Guys,
Anyone knows when HTC will make it available?
Copy / Paste (finally!)
Domain Enroll in Settings (Enrolling in a domain will connect your device with company resources.)
New home screen (pan left and right to check out missed calls, notifications like email, sms, etc.)
Change Master Security Code
Added text input settings
Recent Programs when pressing Start menu
Threaded SMS!
When you compose an email, or SMS, and start typing the name of the contact in the "To:" field, the contact names finally pop up like Windows Mobile Professional!
Internet Explorer now lets you define a homepage, and also zoom in and out using a nice and clean interface
Task Manager now shows CPU usage as a whole, and also lists it by process
Internet Explorer offers 6 zoom modes and copy / paste functionality
IE also uses a new font, which looks worlds better
ActiveSync will now try to automatically configure your Exchange settings once you enter an email address
Wi-Fi indicator in the status bar, just as in Windows Mobile Professional
New "Vista" home screen and theme
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/07/windows-mobile-61-video-walkthrough/
Cheers.
Club3d said:
Hi Guys,
Anyone knows when HTC will make it available?
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Our WM Pro 6 has some of those features already.
We have to wait for MS to put out WM Pro 6.1 first.
slow slow people.. :/
This released update is for windows mobile standard and not pro, alot of people are missing this point (it's mainly for smartphones and not touch screen).
My sources tell me that WM6.1 will be released in 1Q08. Our Kaisers will be one of the first devices to receive this update too. A large part of this will be the integration with Mobile Device Manager 2K8 which was announced at EOM Oct. AT&T was lock-step with Balmer in announcing their support for MDM which is one of the reasons that HTC has prioritized the update (Tilt).
Look out RIM.... MDM provides the centralized security management and OTA provisioning features that have traditionally differentiated WM from BB and so limited WM adoption in US business environments.
Yeah, I think Q1 '08 is the tentative date at the moment although I saw an item somwehere (can't remember where now) that some Motorola phone already has this update at present...
Sleuth255 said:
Look out RIM.... MDM provides the centralized security management and OTA provisioning features that have traditionally differentiated WM from BB and so limited WM adoption in US business environments.
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Would be nice to be able to hook up Pocket Outlook to work's Exchange without a VPN, if possible, and work cared.
Threaded SMS, eh? Wonder if Microsoft realizes they're going to need to change their PIM setup to record the timestamp of the SMS when it is received ON THE PHONE, rather than when it is sent through the carrier network. Otherwise, there's going to be plenty of SMS threads completely out of order.
It does
NuShrike said:
Would be nice to be able to hook up Pocket Outlook to work's Exchange without a VPN, if possible, and work cared.
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My pocket outlook syncs up with my companies Email without VPN. All you need to do is have you exchange server confirued correctly. It uses push and pull and is extremly easy to use.
There is a video walk through on engagent if you want to see the smart phone version.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/video-walkthrough-of-windows-mobile-6-1/
Sleuth255 said:
Look out RIM.... MDM provides the centralized security management and OTA provisioning features that have traditionally differentiated WM from BB and so limited WM adoption in US business environments.
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hm, if that infomation is good, time to short RIMM eh?
Professional also
"My sources tell me" Just to let you know the updates will be available for Professional also. The interface will not.
This is just a quick question from someone eyeballing the hero as a potential next phone...
Does Android have support for Exchange servers? My WM phone lets me sync my calender, tasks, and email (and more I think but these are all I need.) If I went to an Android device like the hero, I would need to still get my work email and sync my calendar to get appointment reminders.
Can Android do these things I speak of?
Thanks for your time.
Yes it has exchange support
Whythankusir
Only Android 2.x has Exchange support.
Please search in the future, because this has been asked time & time again.
gu1dry said:
Only Android 2.x has Exchange support.
Please search in the future, because this has been asked time & time again.
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1.5 with Sense has exchange as well
linkinx64 said:
1.5 with Sense has exchange as well
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Indeed it does. However, it should probably be pointed out that the built in Exchange support on the Hero isn't as complete as it might be (see here) and you may find it necessary to use a 3rd party app like Touchdown if your company uses security policies.
Regards,
Dave
The only good exchange support I've found for the Hero is the built in 1.5 rom.
1.5 Stock rom/fresh etc - Full exchange support
1.6 roms have no support
2.0+ roms have support for mail and contacts but not calendar
FYI Touchdown is $19.95 or in other words "way too expensive."
Any Rom with Sense will have full Exchange support.
Ok, before I get *****ed at some more about not searching; I did lol.
I found information regarding exchange support being introduced into 2.0, but then I also found a random thread where someone mentioned exchange support on their hero was good.
I didn't know if the person with the hero was running a custom rom or something since I know it comes with 1.5.
So that is why I am here in the Hero CDMA forum and not some random android device forum
Thanks again everyone.
The stock Hero (or any 1.5 ROM) does NOT have full support for Exchange 2007 ActiveSync. There are a number of EAS security features (remote wipe, require PIN, etc...) that are not supported by the phone. In order to allow using all of the Mail features in Hero (including simply sending mail), I had to disable some ActiveSync policies on my Exchange server. Exchange 2010 has the same caveats. From what I have read, Android 2.0 and 2.1 still do not have full-functionality EAS support (the iPhone has had it for a LONG time). There is some hope that HTC 2.1 SenseUI will have the functionality added.
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The stock Hero (or any 1.5 ROM) does NOT have full support for Exchange 2007 ActiveSync. There are a number of EAS security features (remote wipe, require PIN, etc...) that are not supported by the phone. In order to allow using all of the Mail features in Hero (including simply sending mail), I had to disable some ActiveSync policies on my Exchange server. Exchange 2010 has the same caveats. From what I have read, Android 2.0 and 2.1 still do not have full-functionality EAS support (the iPhone has had it for a LONG time). There is some hope that HTC 2.1 SenseUI will have the functionality added.
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Oh wow ok. Well thank you so much for this post. I'll check with the IT guy here at work to see if we are running Exchange 2003 or 2007 (I'm pretty sure it's 2003.)
If it's 2003, does that mean it'll work fine?
The best ROM that worked with my company's exchange server is fresh's 2.1 ASOP. That one actually supported my company's exchange policy requiring a passcode. All other 2.0+ roms do not support it and I couldn't use anything but Touchdown.
I'm about to head back to Touchdown, and I'm using a 2.1 rom. The native support is extremely basic. As far as I can tell, there is no way to get automatic updates for any folder other than your Inbox. Meaning all of my filtered mail never shows up on my Hero unless I specifically refresh every subfolder.
cmccracken said:
The stock Hero (or any 1.5 ROM) does NOT have full support for Exchange 2007 ActiveSync.
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From what I have read, Android 2.0 and 2.1 still do not have full-functionality EAS support (the iPhone has had it for a LONG time). There is some hope that HTC 2.1 SenseUI will have the functionality added.
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Funny, the company I work for turned off some EAS security specifically for the executives that have iPhones. I have no problems synching mail/calendar/contacts with my company's Exchange server.
The calendar is probably the most important thing I sync. When I tried 2.0 and 2.1 AOSP, I was sad there was no calendar support. I'm back to running Modaco 2.2 with Gbhil's kernel and lots of my own customizations to basically make it mine.
I love it much better than any WinMo phone I've owned. So many issues in the WinMo OS itself (I ran 6.0, 6.1, 6.5 and 6.5.1 before dropping it and going to Android). I look forward to Sprint releasing a 2.1 ROM in March or April or whenever they have it ready.
-Daryel
As other have said, Sense builds and 2.1 build has basic exchange support. I found that I still had to purchase Touchdown due to the fact I have lots and lots of folders with rules that sort my mail. The built in client doesn't support push or periodic checking of any other folder than the inbox.
Also some of the security policy's are not supported. Touchdown is $20, not as pretty as the built in interface but has almost full support.
Indeed it does. However, it should probably be pointed out that the built in Exchange support on the Hero isn't as complete as it might be (see here) and you may find it necessary to use a 3rd party app like Touchdown if your company uses security policies.
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Dave[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the heads up about Touchdown. $20 bucks is pretty steep for an app, especially something in my opinion, that should work with the phone out of the box. Now to see if Nandroid can help me trick em.
So I recently found out that any mail I sent from my Hero was stuck in the outbox, and that is due to the issue everyone here is talking about regarding security policies. I work for a large company and they will not make exceptions to the policy
I am looking at Touchdown now, but it seems like it doesn't integrate with the native mail, calendar, contacts, etc of the Hero. Is that correct? Basically, email, contacts, calendar etc will be in the Touchdown app only? So those contacts will not show up my in contact list when I click the phone button?
It is true that Touchdown has it's own email, calendar and contacts but as far as contacts go you can have it populate the standard contacts app on your phone.
avhokie said:
So I recently found out that any mail I sent from my Hero was stuck in the outbox, and that is due to the issue everyone here is talking about regarding security policies. I work for a large company and they will not make exceptions to the policy
I am looking at Touchdown now, but it seems like it doesn't integrate with the native mail, calendar, contacts, etc of the Hero. Is that correct? Basically, email, contacts, calendar etc will be in the Touchdown app only? So those contacts will not show up my in contact list when I click the phone button?
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Touchdown will populate and sync Exchange contacts with your Android device's internal phone book. I had a few bumps getting contact syncing to work on my 2.1 rom, but I finally got it.
Thanks ffolkes. Has anyone tried Roadsync? Is that any more integrated with the native android functionality than Touchdown?
We have upgraded to Exchange 2010 and want to use the outlook to sms feature. The sms is composed in outlook and when the phone next syncs we see the sms in our sent items.
However, the sms doesn't actually get sent until the person next sends a text from their phone, which kind of defeats the object of using the sms functions!
I have tried this feature on my Rhod100 using the latest stock HTC 6.5 rom, Energy's 6.5.x roms and also Sergio's latest Cell Evo rom, and the problem occurs on each of the roms.
Has anyone got any advice they can offer?
It appears that the stock mail client in the new 2.2 ROM has fulll Exchange Support. I was able to do a remote wipe of the device from Outlook Web Access. Once I intiated the wipe on my computer my phone rebooted and formatted itself. I then received the following email:
The remote device wipe has completed successfully.
The remote device wipe you initiated from the Mobile Devices Options page on 10/1/2010 10:16:04 PM is complete.
Device type: Android
Device ID: androidc1773342835
Note: To sync with Microsoft Exchange, you must remove this device from the list in the Mobile Options page.
Otherwise, for security purposes, your device will continue to clear data if you try to sync again.
Also, the stock mail client now has the ability to move email to folders.
Seems to work well.
i cant get my [email protected] to works on push email. it only works with polling.
Some other changes to Exchange email:
Phone numbers in emails are selectable, but not in calendar appointments (still). Now it is no longer possible to go into edit mode on calendar appointments you don't own - so no way to cut/copy/paste phone numbers into dialer.
Still no support for Exchange groups - but google groups work - they have to be created on the computer.
GAL is the same - no way to access phone number (that i can find) only email lookup.
Email search is only on the handheld, not on the server.
PIN lock works, but no way to set time. It seems immediate, so either on or off, but it does take the place of swipe to unlock.
Stock email seems almost as fast as lagfix email - so moving through and deleting is much better then 2.1
Do tasks sync yet? If not, I can't believe it. Why is it so hard to sync tasks?
Also, does this support HTML email? I know touchdown does this but the stock email in 2.1 does not.
rkorzuch said:
It appears that the stock mail client in the new 2.2 ROM has fulll Exchange Support. I was able to do a remote wipe of the device from Outlook Web Access. Once I intiated the wipe on my computer my phone rebooted and formatted itself. I then received the following email:
The remote device wipe has completed successfully.
The remote device wipe you initiated from the Mobile Devices Options page on 10/1/2010 10:16:04 PM is complete.
Device type: Android
Device ID: androidc1773342835
Note: To sync with Microsoft Exchange, you must remove this device from the list in the Mobile Options page.
Otherwise, for security purposes, your device will continue to clear data if you try to sync again.
Also, the stock mail client now has the ability to move email to folders.
Seems to work well.
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I went ahead and updated to the Froyo leak and am now having issues setting back up my Exchange. I removed the devices from the mobile options page.
When I go to setup Exchange on the phone, it successfully re-list my device on the mobile options page but fails on the email setup. Any ideas?
Error: "Setup could not finish: Cannot connect to server"
Mobile Options Page:
"Status: OK
First Sync on: Sun 10/3/2010 3:19 PM
Device ID: validate"
netnerd said:
i cant get my [email protected] to works on push email. it only works with polling.
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You have to use m.hotmail.com as your exchange server address and use your email address as username. You need to do manual setup instead of letting it auto search for it.
BTW, the Froyo email client also takes away the sync schedule and sync size options. There is no way to turn off email sync during night time
On the plus side, you can add more than two exchange accounts now.
If you have email being moved unread on server to specific folders, does it show up on the phone client?
I have folders per person in my company. I have setup rules to automatically move unread messages to their folder. Will these messages show up on my captivate?
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Do tasks sync yet? If not, I can't believe it. Why is it so hard to sync tasks?
Also, does this support HTML email? I know touchdown does this but the stock email in 2.1 does not.
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Why do you say 2.1 doesn't support HTM email? I get HTML messages all the time and they show up like HTML - I don't see tags as the email is rendered. If the email client didn't support HTML, then you would see all the brackets and tags as plain text.
Could be a server setting is not telling your phone to treat the email as HTML.
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Why do you say 2.1 doesn't support HTM email? I get HTML messages all the time and they show up like HTML - I don't see tags as the email is rendered. If the email client didn't support HTML, then you would see all the brackets and tags as plain text.
Could be a server setting is not telling your phone to treat the email as HTML.
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That is exactly what I see. If I use Touchdown, it works perfectly so I know it is not my Exchange server. I am using Exchange 2003.
Krad said:
If you have email being moved unread on server to specific folders, does it show up on the phone client?
I have folders per person in my company. I have setup rules to automatically move unread messages to their folder. Will these messages show up on my captivate?
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There is still no setting to control which folder sync automatically. So if I go into my Junk folder - it is empty unless I refresh. When it does sync, the unread emails put in the junk email folder via a rule, show up as unread.
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Why do you say 2.1 doesn't support HTM email? I get HTML messages all the time and they show up like HTML - I don't see tags as the email is rendered. If the email client didn't support HTML, then you would see all the brackets and tags as plain text.
Could be a server setting is not telling your phone to treat the email as HTML.
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Not really. EAS protocol requires client and server to negotiate protocol versions. If either client or server does not support HTML, Exchange server will strip off all the HTML stuff and send only the plain text email body to the client. So, no, you should never see HTML tags in Exchange client. So the only way to tell if you're reading HTML email is to check out the email with embedded images or different fonts on different part of the email message.
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Not really. EAS protocol requires client and server to negotiate protocol versions. If either client or server does not support HTML, Exchange server will strip off all the HTML stuff and send only the plain text email body to the client. So, no, you should never see HTML tags in Exchange client. So the only way to tell if you're reading HTML email is to check out the email with embedded images or different fonts on different part of the email message.
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I was just trying to get OP to explain why he thinks HTML mail wasn't working under 2.1 - maybe he is using the Exchange client with a non-Exchange server. If you don't see tags, but you do see pictures, there are clickable links that don't look like URLs, and there are colors and shading - then HTML email is working. It worked fine for me in 2.1.
I was also thinking of the case of forwarded emails or originating servers where the mime type is text but the content is HTML - Exchange is going to pass it through with all the tags in the plain text - so it would look like the client is not rendering it.
Showstopper - found by Ogar1978 and I just confirmed it.
Forwarding and Reply in Exchange losses all comments that were not part of original email. Althoug i had one reply go through with my comment but not the original text.
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I was also thinking of the case of forwarded emails or originating servers where the mime type is text but the content is HTML - Exchange is going to pass it through with all the tags in the plain text - so it would look like the client is not rendering it.
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It doesn't work that way. I never, through many email clients and mobile phones, receive any emails look like what you described.
HTML email is designed to be backward compatible with plain text email so that the situation where you described will never happen. The main message body is contained in the email text while all the tags, images are attachments. An HTML capable email client will have to re-assembly email text with the attachments to reconstruct the HTML page out.
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I was just trying to get OP to explain why he thinks HTML mail wasn't working under 2.1 - maybe he is using the Exchange client with a non-Exchange server. If you don't see tags, but you do see pictures, there are clickable links that don't look like URLs, and there are colors and shading - then HTML email is working. It worked fine for me in 2.1.
I was also thinking of the case of forwarded emails or originating servers where the mime type is text but the content is HTML - Exchange is going to pass it through with all the tags in the plain text - so it would look like the client is not rendering it.
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I can promise you it is not working for me at all. Not in 2.1 and I just upgraded to 2.2 and still does not work. I can load Touchdown and when I select the "html email" option, I see it exactly as I see it in Outlook with images and all with no tags or URLs. I would use Touchdown but I prefer the integrated email with stock so I will have to deal with it I guess. Attached is an example. I have removed Touchdown so can't prove to you that it does work.
New background colors in mail
This is a nice new feature in 2.2 Froyo... you can change the colors of the background now. Before there was only one choice, now many others. I like dark backgrounds.
Unless you're only reading Chinese or Japanese, you'd better stick to the default white background. Any other color scheme will cause word breaks apart in the middle when ever it reaches the edge.
alphadog00 said:
Showstopper - found by Ogar1978 and I just confirmed it.
Forwarding and Reply in Exchange losses all comments that were not part of original email. Althoug i had one reply go through with my comment but not the original text.
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Deff. a showstopper for anyone trying to use the phone as at a corporate level.
I am going to troll the I9000 boards and see if the froyo they have been running has the same issue and if so if there has been a fix.
keitht said:
That is exactly what I see. If I use Touchdown, it works perfectly so I know it is not my Exchange server. I am using Exchange 2003.
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Exchange 2003 does not support html email via true push. Iphones and touchdown uses a different methods to download emails. I believe they use the owa to download emails differently than stock clients. It is not true push. you need newer exchange 4 true html pushing with stock email clients. Varying of course the client can handle html.
I have noticed that I am still having a problem with emails sent internally that are missing the @domain.com. We have emails generated by web programs that are sent as just the user name. These come to my phone as "null". Very annoying. Can't reply to them without knowing who sent them.
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Can't make my signature right, always puts is in one line even when I editing my signature I have multiply lines.
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