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Upgrading from a Kaiser soon

And I'm not sure I want to stay in the HTC family if they haven't released graphic driver software that can actually make their phones usable.
The phone I'm looking to upgrade to is the HTC Touch Pro 2. So I'm wondering, does anyone have this phone? If so, does it have the appropriate 2D and 3D drivers it should (10fps for video is f**king insanity)?
Finally, if not, what would be a good upgrade from the Kaiser (and don't say the Touch Pro, because it was also released without it's drivers)?

Regarding Touch Pro 2
Have a look on it´s proper section, you can read experiences and recommendations from several users
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=479

I am in the same boat - I can renew my contract at at&t and get a cheap new phone.
I really dislike HTC for the stunts they pulled with the Kaiser drivers.
I am actually eyeing the iphone. If they had it with a 1 year contract, I would jump on it in a sec (even if it was $100 more to buy).

The iphone is a fascinating device indeed. I would love to have one, specially one of the recent 3GS with 32GB memory.
It comes full with functionality, there is plenty of software for it and above all, it has a great user interface and design. It is great to use.
But, there is a major inconvinience: it costs a fortune!
I mean 600 Euro or more for an unlocked iphone, or the equivalent level for plans is very expensive.
Add to that the vulnerabily of the device (never ever drop it, scratch it and take care to not grease the glass all the time), it is a headache to own one.
HTC devices, on the other hand, have two appealing characteristics: they can be obtained cheap (because they do have a long lifetime, so they end up cheap on ebay for a good value price) and they can be hacked, modded and expanded at your hearts will.
Conclusion:
1) If you have the money.
2) If you prefer to USE the device instead of HACKING it.
Get yourself the iphone. You will be happy with it.
Otherwise, just get the HTC one you fancy and live with its limitation, enjoying all the stuff you can do with it (new firmware, cooked firmware, lots of applications, customizations, etc.).
Cheers,
vma

vma said:
The iphone is a fascinating device indeed. I would love to have one, specially one of the recent 3GS with 32GB memory.
It comes full with functionality, there is plenty of software for it and above all, it has a great user interface and design. It is great to use.
But, there is a major inconvinience: it costs a fortune!
I mean 600 Euro or more for an unlocked iphone, or the equivalent level for plans is very expensive.
Add to that the vulnerabily of the device (never ever drop it, scratch it and take care to not grease the glass all the time), it is a headache to own one.
HTC devices, on the other hand, have two appealing characteristics: they can be obtained cheap (because they do have a long lifetime, so they end up cheap on ebay for a good value price) and they can be hacked, modded and expanded at your hearts will.
Conclusion:
1) If you have the money.
2) If you prefer to USE the device instead of HACKING it.
Get yourself the iphone. You will be happy with it.
Otherwise, just get the HTC one you fancy and live with its limitation, enjoying all the stuff you can do with it (new firmware, cooked firmware, lots of applications, customizations, etc.).
Cheers,
vma
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I am in the same boat as the original poster. I am looking for a new phone since my iphone 2g has the dreaded dead strip which is common for the iphone.
At first when it happened I instantly wanted to replace the iphone with another one however on craiglist the 2g were still going for around $150 to $200. However again these were used and most likely were going to start crapping out just like my current. On mine the volume buttons began get stuck and eventually from trying to plug them out ended up coming off. Then I explored the option of a newer 3g since it is better phone overall of the 2g with better form factor and speakerphone. However they were going for $250 to $300 but then again with no warranty. Also since I am taking it to tmobile it would be without 3g.
So yeah the iphone is expensive choice for me since the same plan I have now on ATT would cost me $65 more a month which is $780 more a year. If I decide to take with tmobile then I am paying $300 for an iphone that does not have a warranty. The one year warranty is ridiculous for a phone that retails for $600.

get the touch pro 2 on tmobile 8/12 and be very happy

Tegra II Gtab users...who is getting a Motorla Atrix?

I love my gtab but i can see how it might get semi-replaced right off the bat with this Motorla Atrix. Similiar specs and the ports that include laptop key board style usability combined with one for Media outputs will be readily available and easy to find....
My Iphone 3gs contract is up and i am seriously considering this device.
I know there is probably a seperate forum for this phone already but i wanted to see what GTAB users thought about it.
Here is a link fort those in the dark.
It has the Tegra processor, a laptop style doc, a multimedia style doc, and a car doc. Android 2.2.
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/motorola-atrix.jsp#fbid=Pz0w4Bi9BCz

I wont be getting any locked devices. If Motorola locks the bootloader then I'll wait for something else

I will be getting the Atrix and the docks, this is going to be one bad-azz phone. I am tired of my Iphone after using the Gtab, I have seen the light...

Then again, after reading around about Motorola philosophy of lock down "buy elsewhere" attitude...i may get the Samsung Infuse instead.
Honestly....if i wanted the locked down "buy elsewhere" attitude, why the frack wouldnt i just get the iphone 4 or iphone 5...that attitude kinda DEFEATS the WHOLE purpose of andorid..

No thanks. I'll pass for these reasons:
1. It's a phone, and I have one of those already. I also like to cost of the data plan I'm tied to at the moment.
2. Screen size - I got the G-tablet because I wanted the 10" screen for book/web/whatever reading.
3. If it's going to be locked down like Motorola says it will be, no thanks.
4. AT&T. Plain and simple - I've had way too many bad experiences with them to make me EVER go back.
It's an interesting concept, and if an open alternative which follows that model (specialized docks, etc.) is developed in the future, I may consider moving when I am ready to boot my phone. But at this moment, I'm not seeing anything that's giving me that "I have to have it" wow factor.
BigJohn

BigJohn89 said:
No thanks. I'll pass for these reasons:
1. It's a phone, and I have one of those already. I also like to cost of the data plan I'm tied to at the moment.
2. Screen size - I got the G-tablet because I wanted the 10" screen for book/web/whatever reading.
3. If it's going to be locked down like Motorola says it will be, no thanks.
4. AT&T. Plain and simple - I've had way too many bad experiences with them to make me EVER go back.
It's an interesting concept, and if an open alternative which follows that model (specialized docks, etc.) is developed in the future, I may consider moving when I am ready to boot my phone. But at this moment, I'm not seeing anything that's giving me that "I have to have it" wow factor.
BigJohn
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Like large?
Try this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyZohb7yhDw&feature=related
To each his own. My experiences with Verizon will make me NEVER go back...EVER.
Years ago i bought a phone with a shared line family plan for me and my wife with verizon...each month the second phone was billed outside of the plan, each month Verizon admitted their mistake, said they would correct the issue and apologized, then the next month..SAME THING ALL OVER AGAIN. After 8 months of that i told them to f*k off and have NEVER been back since.
AT&T on the other hand..i go over my minutes, i call them ask for a new plan...they up the plan and then TAKE OFF THE EXTRA CHARGES...EVERY TIME. Want to drop a line a few months early? No problem...done..no early cancellation fee. They shipped me a bad phone once..no problem..new one sent and old one mailed back, no charge. Battery died a little early once..no problem, service girl in store gave me a free one swapped out of a demo unit..NO CHARGE...the list goes on forever like this. Seriously, their customer service is Five star...its good enough that i am willing to accept the dead zones on I20 in a 4 mile area between augusta and atlanta and one in mid columbia thats about 2 miles long...
Just saying..for every "i hate AT&T" story....i have ones about how Verizon has the WORST customer service in the HISTORY of cell phones when it comes to needing something done. (and not come back the VERY next month..until you LOSE IT and go PSYCHO after 2/3rds of a year...)
OH and coverage? We have all seen the commercials right..the maps? I have traveled with my AT&T to cincinatti, NYC, Richmond, Charlotte, Winston Salem, Columbia, Greensboro, Atlanta, Valdosta, Northen LA, Asheville, Pigeon Forge, Gatlinberg, Savanna, Chaleston, Myrtle beach, Hilton Head, DC, Va Beach, North Kentucky, etc...
Zero problems..
My sister and mothers house in Pleasant Graden NC...NO VERIZON coverage...AT&T phone works fine there..no problems.
Maybe i just have bizzaro luck..or maybe the commercials about Verizons coverage are over-hyped??
I dont know...personal experience versus commercials..im going to go with my actual experience
Nuff said.

The G-tab has a 10" screen. These are two completely different products. There's no way I would consider going smaller unless it is as a complimentary device, not a replacement.

1. AT&T Fail
2. Not 10" screen
3. Not a tablet
4. Better products will be out soon enough
I won't be buying it.

At&t 3G coverage as terrible unless in larger city areas. Not as bad as Tmo, but neither are in the same league for 3G as VZW.
Bionic seems interesting, but no buy if the bootloader is locked. I may be keeping my Inc a LOT longer than planned
It works great with gTablet for tethering, so okay with me
BTW, 4.3" seems big (for a phone it is), but try a 4.3" display for about 15 minutes and then try the gTablet. The 4.3" is functionally no better than than a 3.7" in comparison.

I believe a phone that docks into everything is that future, but the atrix isn't quite there yet.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

sanvara said:
The G-tab has a 10" screen. These are two completely different products. There's no way I would consider going smaller unless it is as a complimentary device, not a replacement.
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Well regarding the Atrix it has a VERY small screen...but the orginal post was referring to the ability to use a keyboard 15inch screen laptop as a PORT!
Complimentary device maybe...but with the right phone i might use the gtab...less than i do now.
The iphone is DEFINATELY going...
What new phone style products are coming that might be better options?
rushless said:
BTW, 4.3" seems big (for a phone it is), but try a 4.3" display for about 15 minutes and then try the gTablet. The 4.3" is functionally no better than than a 3.7" in comparison.
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The infuse has a 4.5 inch screen..that thing almost seems like a small tablet compared the years i have spent surfing o my 3GS.
Regarding AT&Ts service..you might be on to somehting there. 99% of my travel is to LARGE cities. For the last 4 years namely its been NYC and Atlanta. When i go home though..in the TINY city of lexington SC from my home....3G service works great. At my girl friends home in Augusta GA, 3G service works great. Usually when i am in a small town though, i am at someones house who has wi-fi hooked up (including mine).
To each his own but Verizons customer serivce is so horrible..i wouldnt care if they had 10G service i would not use them. I might feel different if my luck with always having a 3G or wi-fi signal wasnt so good all the time though.
My gtab mainly does duty as a light alternative to my lap top for when im in the bed surfing the net or want to watch a movie on something in bed or on an airplane etc. I use it as a newsreader from a book stand on my desk at work also through out the day and it makes a great orginizer from same position. I have COMPLETELY stopped using it to type on or try to create any content though...couldnt handle the touch screen keyboard, its worse than using both the lap top and the iphone. It also works great to watch movies on long car trips and for quick "let me check on that" type of internet tasks from home when i am too inpatient to wait for the lap top to boot up.
Truthfully all these devices have their role but i initially posted about the Atrix as it seemed possibly capable of crossing into multiple roles.

One more thing to consider regarding carriers and then i will drop it.
This is a HUGE one.
AT&T has grandfathered all of its users who had smart phones prior to June of 2010 in so that they will continue to get UNLIMITED data for $29.00 a month regardless of how many times they renew or change phones.
Verizon may offer that for one time only introductory rate only, but everyone else (and when your contract is up) you will be locked into only getting 2G per month at a rate only $5.00 cheaper a month.
Now in 2013 rolls around ill be able to get 5G or more in data a month using the SAME technology verizon has, for probably HALF the cost (verizon charges I think $20 extra per G over the 2G) while retaining superior customer service.
Math:
5G from Verizon=$25+$20+$20=$65.00
5G from AT&T grandfathered customers=$29.00
This will be the reality by the time i get around to my next cell phone contract (after the one im about to start) as AT&T will have its LTE network up by then in the larger cities..
So there is that...

Allenfx said:
Like large?
Try this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyZohb7yhDw&feature=related
To each his own. My experiences with Verizon will make me NEVER go back...EVER.
(Excess text of AT&T vs Verizon rant removed by BJ89)
My sister and mothers house in Pleasant Graden NC...NO VERIZON coverage...AT&T phone works fine there..no problems.
Maybe i just have bizzaro luck..or maybe the commercials about Verizons coverage are over-hyped??
I dont know...personal experience versus commercials..im going to go with my actual experience
Nuff said.
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Actually, I find it quite funny about how you totally ignored the meaning of my post and turned the whole thing into an evangelism for AT&T - all while assuming I use Verizon.
The purpose of my post was to state that I bought the G-tab because I wanted a large-screened tablet for reading/web surfing/similar tasks. I already have a phone with a data plan, and I do not want another. I also didn't go with an iPad or a Galaxy tab for the same reason - to get one at a price point similar to the G-tab, I would have to go with one that is subsidized by a carrier. Which means another data plan to pay for.
BTW, comparing the Atrix and the G-Tab is a waste of time as most people will treat them as two separate products with different purposes.
The Samsung phone you linked to was nice, but you glossed over the fact that I said that I didn't want another phone at this time - or in the near future.
Regarding the whole AT&T vs Verizon thing - I have had bad experiences with AT&T for quite a long time; even going as far back to before AT&T took over Cingular. It wasn't a one-time incident, and eventually I gave up dealing with them. It's my choice not to deal with them as much as it's your choice to use them.
I know there are plenty of people that have had bad customer service issues with my carrier of choice as well - which, by the way, is Sprint and not Verizon.
BigJohn

Various blogs have reported that Motorola is leaving the bootloader unlocked.
I read the reviews and it seams the laptop dock is pretty much just a gimmick and not all that useful. Sweet phone though. If I was going to spend a ton of cash on a phone and or a new plan anyways I might consider it. Happy with my gTab and HD2 for now though.

I'm def. not.
599/499 for a phone and a dock with a screen? I think not. It's essentially still just a phone. Some people change their phones every year or 2. So you're either locking yourself into an expensive short term investment or willing to hold on to older tech for longer, in which case maybe it would be worth it. You're also locked into a data contract for 2 years - inflating the cost of the package drastically.
Option 2 is a tablet for 379/399, a $40 wireless mouse/kb bundle from logitech or ms and a $50 hdmi dock, then hook it up to your LCD TV or monitor and voila, similar effect albeit not as mobile as the atrix lapdock, but if you're willing to carry that around in a bag, why not just buy a more powerful netbook or laptop for $300 upfront and let that be that? It just doesn't make much sense at the current price point.
It's a gimmick, imho.
If the entire dock were maybe $100-150 then it might pass as worthwhile. That would essentially give you a phone and 'netbook' transformer for $350 which is around the cost of a netbook/laptop/tablet. At 299/399 with/without a rebate for the dock alone and that's not including the cost of being locked into a contract for 2 years....whereas the VS is 399 off the bat, no catch, it's not really for me. To each his own though. I'm sure there are reasons to get it.

Would you take ~$100 to trade in Captivate?

Assuming you're a current Captivate owner as most of us are in this forum. And you were fed up with lack of firmware updates, non-functional GPS, quirky third party ROMs (though, THANK YOU for making life with my Captivate tolerable!) and were interested in a Motorola Atrix...
Would you take ~$100 for a Captivate as a trade-in towards the Atrix? If not, what would you do with it?

LOL no...
Maybe in a year or two I would take $100, but I would be using the money for a good phone, not that Atrix or whatever...thing looks designed to make money off of add-ons...for example look at the console market...remember the 32X? add-on. remember the Sega CD? Add-on. Did not work so well in the console market, splitting up the demographic is never a good thing. And it wont work here either.

90% of the captivates listed on Craigslist in my area are 250$, if I needed to get rid of mine I'd put it up for 200 and I'm certain it would be gone in a day.

Well i guess there's a few factors involved in that decision. What did you pay for it? Are you happy with the captivate? How badly do you want an atrix? Do you care if you loose money? In the end it's your decision and most people have already made up their mind even before asking these type of questions.
Me? I'm only out of pocket $50 with the captivate. But i'm happy with it now that I'm on a great rom, so i see no difference in the latest and greatest device. It's a never ending cycle that will make you broke!

Samsung may have terrible support for their phones, but due to this phone being the first solid android on AT&T, it has fantastic support from the dev community.
Motorola has a long history of locking their phones down, and making it near impossible to switch the kernal. Samsung may be lazy, but Moto hates its customers actively.
I will never own another moto phone.

OK, good points. I guess it's a very low amount of money at this point to consider as a trade-in. I'm definitely going to be losing money, the question is how much and the trade-in would have softened the blow a bit. I guess I could resell but I hate dealing with things like eBay and Craig's.
Regarding phone mods - Well, they're great but what I really want is simply a phone that works. I don't want to have to flash a phone to get a marginally better GPS or an Android release that isn't two steps behind. I think Motorola does have a better track record in supporting their front lines phones.
Yeah, the Atrix is an accessory platform. Though it's neat I can't really understand the utility of the laptop dock. Text messaging with a real keyboard is nice though. One of things I miss about not having a Nokia with their PC software.

There are several wifi/usb apps that let you use your pc keyboard to type on an Android phone. You don't need anything from the manufacturer.

gibson3659 said:
There are several wifi/usb apps that let you use your pc keyboard to type on an Android phone. You don't need anything from the manufacturer.
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I completely overlooked this. I just paired my PS3 Bluetooth keyboard with my phone and it works great - even with mouse. Not exactly portable but if I want/need to use it I can. Great option.

Hell No
There is no way I would accept 100$ for this amazing piece of hardware... unless that hundred dollars was taken off the 200$ price of the atrix and I was able to purchase it without waiting the 13 remaining months I have on my contract and now early termination fees.
If you are selling your captivate for a 100$ though, I'd be happy to buy it from you

The only thing the Atrix has over the SGS is the dual core proc, which it can't even use running Froyo. I don't even know that Gingerbread enables dual core, you may have to wait until honeycomb to get the full power out of the phone. Top that off with the locked bootloader and support that rivals samsung in ineptitude, and I think I'll pass. By the time my contract is up with AT&T they'll have quad-core phones out anyway, and with lagfix, CM7, and overclocking I think we'll find the Captivate to be a powerhouse well into the future.

After coming from an Iphone 3G where I had to jailbreak to receive any kind of functionality I would not take $100 for the phone. The sheer openess to mod the phone to how it fits me and not how Stevie thinks it should fit makes it worth far more than $100

I sold my wife's captivate the other day on ebay for $330...

To chorus in... no. I would not take a $100 trade in for an Atrix... unless included in that deal someone was taking over my AT&T contract and I was going to a better carrier.

price
i will bid 110 on the phone i like it better then any phone out there because i can do stuff with the phone with this site dev . you know the grass is always greener on the other side

I have a better offer. How about I pay you $125 for your Captivate+shipping and we call it a day? =D
I see Captivate's selling for at least $200, so if your goal to sell and buy an Atrix I would highly recommend you sell it yourself through ebay, craigs, friends, etc before you take the lazy way out and lose $100 bucks for convienence.

Yeah, gonna have to say no.. Bought this thing off contract cause my iphone sucked so hard. Now if I could give them my cappy and $100 for an Atrix I'm all in!

I sold mine for 200. I could have gotten more, but I was happy with the deal.

Like most everyone else, NO I would not give up my Captivate for $100. After I flashed it with an awesome ROM (Paragon) it runs the way I suspect Samsung dreamed it might. I now get great battery life and a working GPS. The Captivate also enjoys great support here on XDA.

Not really worried about firmware updates..as the devs here on xda make the roms better then any!!!...plus i love the cappy screen...maybe a nexus s but think i will hold out on the atrix as i jumped on the android bandwagon for att when the backflip came out....since att finnaly got a android but really not impressed with motoblur as it took them for ever to get 2.1
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA App

I'll agree with the others. I wouldn't take $250 for my Captivate.
Matter of fact, if you're as anal retentive as I am , and have the box and everything it came with, and took SUPER GOOD care of it, you could probably get around $325-350 on fleaBay - check the completed auctions!
That's if you want to maximize the $$ you get out of it.

Is $300 a good price for an iPhone 4?

Black iPhone 16Gb. The seller says that the phone is in good condition with no scratches or cracks. However, it has been used. I does not come with any accessories besides the wall charger.

Don't get an iPhone.
Sent from my EVO 4G using XDA App

I wouldnt spend that on it. Maybe try swappa.com?

Van Stellato said:
Black iPhone 16Gb. The seller says that the phone is in good condition with no scratches or cracks. However, it has been used. I does not come with any accessories besides the wall charger.
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Like others have already suggested, I would suggest considering android for three reasons:
1. I love Android
2. Right now isn't the best time to buy an iPhone 4 because it will soon be outdated by the iPhone 5 (but still a great phone for a couple of years).
3. If you're able to sign up for a new contract, there are some pretty amazing phones out now: (I assume you're in the US because you said $300) like EVO 3D, Sensation, GS2 (soon), etc.
Definitely going iPhone 4? It depends on the condition the phone is in... is the battery totally fried? Is the glass free of major scratches, especially on the display? Are there any dead pixels? Is the phone glued together because it was chainsawed in half? If you can't confidently answer "no" to any of those questions, you're taking a risk. Maybe a small risk, but still a risk. If it's ebay make sure the seller allows refunds.
Assuming there are no such glaring errors and it's just an average iPhone that has been used, $300 is a steal. I would buy it if someone randomly walked up and offered it to me just so I could resell it on ebay and turn a quick profit!

Buy hd2, ip suck
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

Please dont get an iphone. they're good but not android good. its like going from a free country like the usa to a communist country like china. So big but no freedom

FearedSkills said:
Don't get an iPhone.
Sent from my EVO 4G using XDA App
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But it is just $300,how i can reject it ?

evilstewie23 said:
Please dont get an iphone. they're good but not android good. its like going from a free country like the usa to a communist country like china. So big but no freedom
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Hi guy,don't say like this,if a chinese see your post,he(she) will sad

Komodo Rogue said:
Like others have already suggested, I would suggest considering android for three reasons:
1. I love Android
2. Right now isn't the best time to buy an iPhone 4 because it will soon be outdated by the iPhone 5 (but still a great phone for a couple of years).
3. If you're able to sign up for a new contract, there are some pretty amazing phones out now: (I assume you're in the US because you said $300) like EVO 3D, Sensation, GS2 (soon), etc.
Definitely going iPhone 4? It depends on the condition the phone is in... is the battery totally fried? Is the glass free of major scratches, especially on the display? Are there any dead pixels? Is the phone glued together because it was chainsawed in half? If you can't confidently answer "no" to any of those questions, you're taking a risk. Maybe a small risk, but still a risk. If it's ebay make sure the seller allows refunds.
Assuming there are no such glaring errors and it's just an average iPhone that has been used, $300 is a steal. I would buy it if someone randomly walked up and offered it to me just so I could resell it on ebay and turn a quick profit!
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Thanks for your advice,you say right .

(if this is the answer you are looking for)
1. US$300 is a good price for an used/second-handed iPhone.
2. iPhone 4 is still a good phone even for the next 1-2 years.
Considerations tho' :
1. iPhone 4 will be outdated very soon due to iPhone 5
2. Android armada is in general better than any of iOS armada at the moment, especially Android in combination with the new flagships like Sensation, Galaxy SII or EVO 3D. I prefer the EVO 3D since it has a relatively bigger battery capacity.

Not a bad price if you really want the ip4.
-=JK=-

My U11 was stolen, no hope of getting it back. I want another, however...

Sprint no longer carries HTC. If I got one of the unlocked versions, could I get it to work on Sprint? I was really happy with it and don't want a Samsung and not sure about LG.
I'm so angry about having it stolen... all I want are my pictures! Hoping at least some of them were backed up on google...
Thanks!

NJ2toU said:
Sprint no longer carries HTC. If I got one of the unlocked versions, could I get it to work on Sprint? I was really happy with it and don't want a Samsung and not sure about LG.
I'm so angry about having it stolen... all I want are my pictures! Hoping at least some of them were backed up on google...
Thanks!
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Of course bro, the unlocked versions support any carrier

You can purchase it on eBay for $120 with a 9/10 condition
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-U-11-64GB-Sapphire-Blue-Sprint-Smartphone-9-10/192958571093

joel_sinbad said:
You can purchase it on eBay for $120 with a 9/10 condition
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-U-11-64GB-Sapphire-Blue-Sprint-Smartphone-9-10/192958571093
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I literally just purchased a Sprint Sim Unlocked one from this seller last week for $150, and I can only recommend him highly.
Phone was closer to 10/10. It looks brand new. Not even any scratches around the charging port, usually the first place to see wear even if the phone is in a case.
I converted mine to a US Unlocked CID and flashed a US Unlocked RUU to it and am using it on Tmobile, but if you are a sprint customer
you shouldn't need a Sim Unlocked version and can save $30.
I came from an HTC 10 and I am LOVING this phone, btw.
Good luck!!
B W

Thanks guys! Well guess what? It WASN'T stolen! For some reason Find my device was showing it five towns away, but it wasn't. I had searched everywhere for it, and tried calling it to hear it ringing somewhere, but when it rang through one time, then went to voicemail the next, I figured they turned it off and checked FMD. I freaked out and spent 4 hours changing all my passwords, calling my banks, etc. Well, a week later, I was looking under my bed for one of my cats, and there it was! It must have fallen off and bounced all the way under the bed! I looked around the bed but not really under it, never thinking it would go that far. The battery died after the first call to it, which is why it went to voicemail. I'm really pissed at find my device showing erroneous info.

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.... I freaked out and spent 4 hours changing all my passwords, calling my banks, etc. Well, a week later, I was loo......
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...and to think you coulda been using fingerprint unlock the whole time. It may cause general paranoia, I only recently adaptered it after seeing someone going into multi profiles using different fps.
However it brings a definitive quantity of security in case of just such loss

n3m35155 said:
I literally just purchased a Sprint Sim Unlocked one from this seller last week for $150, and I can only recommend him highly.
Phone was closer to 10/10. It looks brand new. Not even any scratches around the charging port, usually the first place to see wear even if the phone is in a case.
I converted mine to a US Unlocked CID and flashed a US Unlocked RUU to it and am using it on Tmobile, but if you are a sprint customer
you shouldn't need a Sim Unlocked version and can save $30.
I came from an HTC 10 and I am LOVING this phone, btw.
Good luck!!
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Oh ya? I have the HTC 10. It's my third one because of the terrible luck I've had with it, and this one is on its way out now. Screen is cracked pretty bad (especially around the finger print reader) and the camera app won't boot up anymore.
I was thinking of getting the LG G7, but I'm hearing some really shady things about LG phones, so I may stick with HTC and hope that I can get some quality time out of it. I think I'll grab one of those phones you got. Seems like a good deal and I really can't be bothered to spend lots of money on a phone these days. I just want something that works and has good sound quality.

nubreed000 said:
Oh ya? I have the HTC 10. It's my third one because of the terrible luck I've had with it, and this one is on its way out now. Screen is cracked pretty bad (especially around the finger print reader) and the camera app won't boot up anymore.
I was thinking of getting the LG G7, but I'm hearing some really shady things about LG phones, so I may stick with HTC and hope that I can get some quality time out of it. I think I'll grab one of those phones you got. Seems like a good deal and I really can't be bothered to spend lots of money on a phone these days. I just want something that works and has good sound quality.
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I like the U11, and it is reportedly getting a pie update very soon as I see two or three posts in here in a few threads over the last 10 hours reporting Pie update just released for U11.
It takes pretty good pictures and has pretty decent speakers. Not as good pictures as some modern phones.
What I find crazy is that phones in the last year that cost as much as this used but are new (midrange so called phones) have equal hardware specs to this.
I would pass on an HTC U11 and get a new Samsung A70. Porcelain case, Base version 128 GB and 6 RAM, Android updates for 2 more years, flashy new battery, can be found for $275 slightly used.

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I like the U11, and it is reportedly getting a pie update very soon as I see two or three posts in here in a few threads over the last 10 hours reporting Pie update just released for U11.
It takes pretty good pictures and has pretty decent speakers. Not as good pictures as some modern phones.
What I find crazy is that phones in the last year that cost as much as this used but are new (midrange so called phones) have equal hardware specs to this.
I would pass on an HTC U11 and get a new Samsung A70. Porcelain case, Base version 128 GB and 6 RAM, Android updates for 2 more years, flashy new battery, can be found for $275 slightly used.
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This would make the most sense for an average user but what I love about HTC phones is their audio capabilities (headphone output and video recording). I'm almost certain that the mid range phones cut back on that stuff, cause 99% of the consumer market doesn't care about that (same way I don't care about self cameras). I think LG is the only other company that cares to put that kind of stuff in their phones, but from what I read about them they're pretty ****ty when it comes to support. So I'm stuck with HTC for the time being.