Raphael or Dream?! - General Questions and Answers

Hello,
I want to buy a new mda and i'm torn between a Raphael and a Dream...
I'm having trouble choosing between these two.
I mean i'm very curious about the Dream, running Android and all, but on the other hand, looking at the tech. specs, Raphael seems a bit more packed and i could still use IGO. Kind of got used to WM i guess; i currently have a Nike200...
Could anyone please tell me what's your opinion, which one would you choose...?
Thanks.

WM or Android
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I´ll choose Rapahel definetly
I think Android OS is not mature yet, perhaps in a few years but not now.
Just my 2 cents.
read , search, respect and enjoy!
Good luck,

well..im having a dilemma now too..i tot of buying android phone..but i love to taste the window mobile phone..but i suggest u to take raphael like what orb said is true..but if u have little more money to spent on android phone i would take both.cos i want to get familiar with the OS...

Thank you for the replies. I guess I just needed a little push towards HTC Raphael...

Great choice!!
Then go to Wiki and to Raphael secton and enjoy!

If you are not in a rush, you could even go for the Touch Pro II. T-Mobile already has it available and it is roughly the same that AT&T, Sprint, etc are charging for the Touch Pro/Fuze.
But I agree with orb, Android is far from being done (although the Hero interface does look pretty neat)!

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New Update By Htc

i think is time to downgrate to wm 6 ...........
yes 6 not 6.1 with all these issues and bugs and problems....
and then sell all of us our kaisers
i'm tired of this [email protected]#king htc's policy
what reason for,keep trying manage to work wright a device,that cost us more than 750e??
what reason for,keep buying from this screwed company named HTC ?????
sory for my tone but i can't stand any more this condition
redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?
zaharakis said:
i think is time to downgrate to wm 6 ...........
yes 6 not 6.1 with all these issues and bugs and problems....
and then sell all of us our kaisers
i'm tired of this [email protected]#king htc's policy
what reason for,keep trying manage to work wright a device,that cost us more than 750e??
what reason for,keep buying from this screwed company named HTC ?????
sory for my tone but i can't stand any more this condition
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I hear ya, but thats why we have wonderful chefs
Isaygarcia said:
redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?
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but somewhere we have to say it loud about this ..
and is better say it in another thread (like this one )and not to fill all other threads
Things that might improove
Hey,
The ROMs here are actually quite good but even if the ROM from HTC (the new one) does not compare with the ones made by XDA gurus they did some nice stuff...for example clearing the storage automatically after flash (no hard reset??) and the radio looks to be quite good it has all the countries in EUR now and the auto network configuration actually works...and there is no bluetooth activated right after flash...
Maybe some of these good things can be implemented in the new custom ROMs also...
More than blaming HTC for its ****-ROMs , we should contact the people who is working on port the Diamond drivers.
i think that zaharakis says what we all feel
htc tricked us
i can play videos and emulate gba games fluently at mt 3 years old ipaq 2490
while i cannot even turn the screen instantly to the stupid kaiser
and think how it would be if we didn't have the chefs
Isaygarcia said:
More than blaming HTC for its ****-ROMs , we should contact the people who is working on port the Diamond drivers.
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This phone does what i need it to do. And when the next greatest ppc comes out il be getting that.
Isaygarcia said:
redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?
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On the contrary...
Posts like this are nothing but the reflection of all the frustrated HTC users like me and if and only if people from HTC get to see this kind of bad publicity who knows, maybe they change their stupid policies...
Here's hoping...
Rayan said:
On the contrary...
Posts like this are nothing but the reflection of all the frustrated HTC users like me and if and only if people from HTC get to see this kind of bad publicity who knows, maybe they change their stupid policies...
Here's hoping...
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I wished the same thing until I realized that here in this forum we only represent negligible fraction of what could make an impact at all for their revenues.
hi guys,
i used the kaiser since few month with the org. german vodafone rom 1.58.... and all thinks work fine except voip with the rear speaker problem, and no drivers .. we all know.
Yesterday I use the new official german rom and this works so bad for me ... same speed, problems with the touchscreen, BT headset works but kaiser works slow with BT on.
Before I throw the Kaiser off the window :-/ I wait for a community rom with diamond drivers and give the people here a detonation for that. No more money to HTC from me.
Greets ChriZZ
Why don't we all let HTC know this... Mail them, all of you, it's costing them money and time to reply to those mails.
Still didn't get a driver, which they promised us and a crappy performance when it comes to graphics... So don't frustrate the people over here with your shortcomings, but irritate the HTC staff .
That's just my point of view...
(For example: create an example mail (like the one on htcclassaction (or so) and mail it all to this crappy company)
Cooked wm6.1 ROM > *anything
dubbeld00 said:
Why don't we all let HTC know this... Mail them, all of you, it's costing them money and time to reply to those mails.
Still didn't get a driver, which they promised us and a crappy performance when it comes to graphics... So don't frustrate the people over here with your shortcomings, but irritate the HTC staff .
That's just my point of view...
(For example: create an example mail (like the one on htcclassaction (or so) and mail it all to this crappy company)
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your point is good my friend ..but you think they don't allready know it??
i don't believe that no one in htc didn't try first this update,before releasing it in public
so they just yellow us for another one time
Sorry..Why u r angry?...also all the coocked 6.1 ROMs are sucks...i tried theme all ( full of bugs ) and dont let u even use the device the way u like...
am using the HTC offecial ROM i ( WM 6 ) all the needed program are running very good ( Arabiser for the arabic users like me although this arabizing softwares did is not the offecial for HTC, windows live working,Skyps workin, camer i dont use so musch but the pic's i took are very good,GPS working ( using sygc7...so what else you dream off ????????? the only this that make me try the 6.1 is the sound of my Gabra 8040 voice is not that loud i need ( i live in a noisy country)...and just we all should know that this is a PPC not a PC u ca not just load it with tons of programs
the only thing i think HTC should do is to use MVC insted of the buil in program althought that program runs very good but we all like the MVC
I remember when!
Remember when they "HTC" announced the Kaiser II , the promo how cool it looked. We all couldn't wait, built in GPS smaller design "not as thick" I fell for the hype. Now what are they pushing the "DIAMOND" wow lets all sell our Tilt's and Kaisers II on eBay and go out and buy a Diamond. but wait what is the Diamond missing what are it's short falls. Do we all trust HTC since they have been so honest with us up to now, it seems that everyone is tring to make a Iphone look alike. If you want an Iphone buy one. it's cheeper then a Kaiser II and you can get 2 for the price of a Diamond. I like my Tilt and I am going to keep it. but I don't like HTC and I would be willing to contribute to any legle suite or team that can go after HTC and hold them accountable. They may reside in a foreign country but I live in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and we know how to screw someone in court. Land of the Free and home of the Class action suite! I am extremely happy to belong to this XDA community, I feel like this is a big extended family and we have family members all over the world. We have all been waiting long enough and apparently in vein, for HTC to release video drivers. I believe they never had any intention of correcting these problems. Oh and one more thing I never used a Windows machine at home until I got my first HTC device Samsung SX66, then 8525 now the Tilt. I am a die hard Mac user have always been. but in the world of PDA's Windows is King! I can't get what I need out of an Iphone and looks like I am not going to get what I expect from HTC. Shame on you HTC you took a customer that bought a new device each and every year and drove me to this. maybe your next years P&L will open your eye's.
Ed...
I'm sorry, but how exactly does moaning about a multi-milion dollar company on a developer forum do any good?
I'm sure the folks at HTC are reading all this on a daily basis, and take pity on your plight, and will be releasing a driver asap to make us all happy.
The kaiser does what it's supposed to - it's a business centric device and as for the multimedia part, it might not be a monster, but it does do the job relatively well.
Face it, HTC doesn't care about a 7 month old device, neither do they care about you. Try and think about it from their point of view - Releasing a brand new device boasting of 3D capabilities is MUCH better for sales than worrying about implementing it on an already released crippled one.
With that said, I hope this will be the last of such threads and the ROM development forum is no place for this sort of rant anyway.
So... after thinking it for a long time I have gone back to the original WM 6.0 ROM.
- Official WM 6.1 update by HTC: No text in landscape mode, programs crashing, skype does not work
- Cooked ROMs based on this: same problems with landscape
- Cooked ROMs with 1.65 radio: do not work well with my router, slow GPS fix
- Other cooked ROMs: display problems, have many programs I have no use for or I have to install others that came as standard (this leads to little storage free at the end). Skype does not work on most cases.
- Original ROM: Big free storage, GPS works fast, WiFi works, Skype works, all programs work, no crashes.
So, by updating what the hell do I gain?
My other choice would be WM 6.1 3.02 ROM, I've been using it for weeks, but hell, in the original ROM skype works.
nphil said:
I'm sorry, but how exactly does moaning about a multi-milion dollar company on a developer forum do any good?
I'm sure the folks at HTC are reading all this on a daily basis, and take pity on your plight, and will be releasing a driver asap to make us all happy.
The kaiser does what it's supposed to - it's a business centric device and as for the multimedia part, it might not be a monster, but it does do the job relatively well.
Face it, HTC doesn't care about a 7 month old device, neither do they care about you. Try and think about it from their point of view - Releasing a brand new device boasting of 3D capabilities is MUCH better for sales than worrying about implementing it on an already released crippled one.
With that said, I hope this will be the last of such threads and the ROM development forum is no place for this sort of rant anyway.
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It helps if we don't buy into their next product. Multi-million dollar companies are made buy consumers. If you take away the consumer then you don't have a multi-million dollar company.
why dont we all put our kaisers in a big bag and then take this bag in a helicopter and release over HTC Corp. (with some TNT, or some Hydrogen in Fusion) and Bang !

Why is HTC Diamond better then Omnia

I was lurking arround for some time As many of you I was thinking about getting better phone well lets say smarter, faster and more cool. First I was amazed by iPhone but really after reading specs it wasnt that great. So my dreams went to sleep for a while and then I saw Diamond which is almost perfect with just few flaws. And I was almost ready to get it but it wasnt available yet in my country. After few weeks I saw Samsung Omnia which is technicaly perfect toy which just lacks "chic" factor (and resolution of HTC Diamond / Pro. After few sleepless nights I made decision.. I choosed HTC and reason really isnt this and that but really this forum. Its really fun seeing people help each other and searching for hidden features about which even HTC didnt know. So since this is my first post I really would like to thank everyone who participate on this forums
P.S Ill buy both Diamond and Pro so I can join some development process Maybe fifteen years of experience in pro programming will help little hehe.
that was a major consideration when i bought my pda.. been hearing about XDA-developers since 2006, when a friend bought is 9100!
simply awesome the amount of info you find here... precious info, roms, the works!

Replacing my Universal...

Hello there, I'm planning to replace my HTC Universal after great 3 years of working! and I'm still pleased with it to be honest!
My new PPC should has a keyboard, so my question is simple! is the HTC Raphael the good choice to go with?
I know there is the SE X1 as another choice, but I think I liked the HTC more
What do you think?
so guyz...no replys at all?
I really like my Raphael and as far as i worked with it, i had no problems and would recommend it.
There are (of course) some bugs, but they can be fixed with progs out of this forum. So if u are not afraid of spending some time in setting up ur raphael this could be ur new favourite.
The keyboard is pretty good (for my opinion), the buttons are small, but i don't have a problem hitting the right one, even though i got thicker fingers.
If u have some specific questions just ask, i'll see if i can answer.
hi there
having used the universal and then using a hermes as a day-to-day device and now the raphael i can only say that im glad i bought one!
the size of the device is simply astonishing for what has been crammed into it
what do you primarily use your device for?
the universal is a well seasoned device with much support and it appears the raphael is heading that way too!
Thanx guyz,
No problem at all with spending time fixing bugz cause really I like these stuff and I enjoy searching and fixing...that's what kept me from replacing my Universal
good to hear that about the keyboard, cause I really need it and I think by time I should be used to it...
yup, the size is a great thing compared to the huge universal for sure I'm now a medical resident...so I will use it to have some books around me all the time beside its internet & phone cababilities...
there is nothin specific now in my mind to ask, but I got a positive impression in general and I think I'm gonna buy it soon
I'll get back to you!

Rhodium

Hi all,
I have had my Rhodium for one week now and can happily say that I have finally found a worthy replacement for my beloved Uni.
Just thought you would all like to know that there is finally a worthy replacement.
Check out the user reviews over in the Rhodium general forum for more info.
I know that there are a lot of you here who, like myself, have been waiting for a long time for a decent succesor to the Uni.
Well now there is.
There are some excellent contract deals over at mobile phones direct
www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk
I haven't been able to find any better deals on the net than this and as an added bonus the device comes unlocked without any branding (currently)
Have a read through the Rhodium forum and if you have been waiting for a decent upgrade, take the plunge now whilst the deals are good and the device is unbranded.
Good bye Uni forum, will miss all the great users here that have supported me and the many friends I have made here.
Cheers,
Beasty
Thanks Beasty
Your comments are well aprecited
I am aware of Rhodium and afeter this post maybe I consider to buy one
Shame we don´t see you in Uni
Anyway I´ll keep my Universal!!!
Cheers,
orb3000 said:
Thanks Beasty
Your comments are well aprecited
I am aware of Rhodium and afeter this post maybe I consider to buy one
Shame we don´t see you in Uni
Anyway I´ll keep my Universal!!!
Cheers,
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Hey Orb,
I still have my treasured Uni too, and will never foresake it, still running my own build on her too.
I must say though that the Rhodium truly is a replacement.
Too much on at work to spend much time in the forums these days, least of all working on any Rom Development.
Things will calm down after summer though, and I shall start on Rom Dev again, but probably in the Rhodium forum.
The Rhodium is so fast on the stock Rom, it blows all other devices away even with the great Roms we have from all the Devs here, the Rhodium on stock is still the fastest device I've seen. Can't wait to see how it performs once we can Develop our own flavours.
Buy one, you won't regret it.
Cheers,
Beasty
beast0898 said:
Hey Orb,
I still have my treasured Uni too, and will never foresake it, still running my own build on her too.
I must say though that the Rhodium truly is a replacement.
Too much on at work to spend much time in the forums these days, least of all working on any Rom Development.
Things will calm down after summer though, and I shall start on Rom Dev again, but probably in the Rhodium forum.
The Rhodium is so fast on the stock Rom, it blows all other devices away even with the great Roms we have from all the Devs here, the Rhodium on stock is still the fastest device I've seen. Can't wait to see how it performs once we can Develop our own flavours.
Buy one, you won't regret it.
Cheers,
Beasty
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Thanks Beasty!
I certanly will buy one, now that I know that you will be cooking for Rhodium!
You change my mind in waiting for another device!
Soon as I have it on my hands will be more aware of catching you on Rhodium section
Cheers my friend!
thanx beasty we gonna miss u in universal form... thanx for the beautiful roms that you have given for our beloved uni.... all the best with rodhium.... good luck.... gonna miss a great chef in uni form....
beast0898 said:
Hi all,
I have had my Rhodium for one week now and can happily say that I have finally found a worthy replacement for my beloved Uni.
Just thought you would all like to know that there is finally a worthy replacement.
Check out the user reviews over in the Rhodium general forum for more info.
I know that there are a lot of you here who, like myself, have been waiting for a long time for a decent succesor to the Uni.
Well now there is.
There are some excellent contract deals over at mobile phones direct
www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk
I haven't been able to find any better deals on the net than this and as an added bonus the device comes unlocked without any branding (currently)
Have a read through the Rhodium forum and if you have been waiting for a decent upgrade, take the plunge now whilst the deals are good and the device is unbranded.
Good bye Uni forum, will miss all the great users here that have supported me and the many friends I have made here.
Cheers,
Beasty
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its sad to hear that another great chef will be leaving uni, but everything must go on.... regards and good luck. but hoping yu'll change yur mind and start cooking for rhodium and uni as well, if yur sched will permit..
Can't wait for beast to port the Rhodium ROM to the Uni ha ha!
Ah well, yes, I'll be buying a Rhodium... but I'm going to wait until their nearer the £150 mark in eBay first. So not for a few years yet, I think there's still a little bit of life left in the Uni yet.
Nice machine, though, everything I'd want in a Uni upgrade.
JonMorgan said:
Can't wait for beast to port the Rhodium ROM to the Uni ha ha!
Ah well, yes, I'll be buying a Rhodium... but I'm going to wait until their nearer the £150 mark in eBay first. So not for a few years yet, I think there's still a little bit of life left in the Uni yet.
Nice machine, though, everything I'd want in a Uni upgrade.
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Hah...hah...ha...very well said.
I have to agree with JonMorgan...
I like the HD and Rhodium is also nice( even not using KB a lot), but the price it to high for me.
I prefered to buy a netbook ( not as Asus Beasty, lol). I got the HP mini 1000 for 270€ (20% discount over sell price, great deal)( I'm using it to type this message).
400, 500, 600€ is way to much for a pda/phone.
If I can get a HD near 300, maybe I'll think about it, but if we keep to get new ROMs for Uni, the next buy will take some time.
Beasty, if you keep the Rhodium for a long time as the Uni, maybe we will meet again (how's life?). Did Leo also moved, he he?
Cheers

ROM Comparison chart

I thought I'd leave you all with the ROM comparisons that I did when I was actively using my Universal. Half way through I upgraded to 128 MB, so this is reflected in some of the memory readings.
These are my own personal findings - I tested programs on the ROMs that I was interested in. Perhaps I'm opening a can of worms here, but I hope you find it useful.
Thanks Jonny!
Great information, will add to the FAQ
How do you feel with your new Rhodium?
My new rhodium is great - I'm not looking back! (Oops, perhaps I shouldn't have posted that here!). I know it doesn't run WP7, but there is certainly life in it yet (and I have a lot of bought programs which run on WM6.5 only, so I'm quite happy).
I enjoyed too my Rhodium!
And moved to Leo was a big shock for me coming from a real keyboard line devices...
I expect to go back to keyboard devices soon as I find a similar spec HTC device
Jonny could You paste this file with .xls extention? I don't have Office 2007 and i cannot get into it
Thx in advance
BR
buzolek
Ok, updated first post to include excel 2003 version Rom Compare3.xls
very useful information!thanks
Great
OMG...
You HAVE used your Uni buddy!
And I thought I was a serious user...still using though...nobody in my town knows what a 128 MB Uni means to me...will just keep it till I grow old.
I'm waiting for a really good WP7 piece...checked one HD7...but the software glithces.. or shortcomings are too many....let's see.
Hey kalya! nice to see you around
Perhaps would be wise to wait for Touch Pro 7
-Jonny- said:
I thought I'd leave you all with the ROM comparisons that I did when I was actively using my Universal. Half way through I upgraded to 128 MB, so this is reflected in some of the memory readings.
These are my own personal findings - I tested programs on the ROMs that I was interested in. Perhaps I'm opening a can of worms here, but I hope you find it useful.
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Great job!! Obrigado!
what next?
I don't know Orb...which would be my WP7 handset.
As always , win mo are dull,very down to earth,mature looking gadgets...they will never be fun and I accept that....
Just waiting for a great hardware & the new OS's perfect synchronisation.
Uni was it...we got maximum from it...but my country's mobile network never caught up with the handset.
Just waiting for it...hoping...HTC would almost deliver and I know XDA members will make it perfect.
Yes it´s true...
I have played with WP7 on my Leo and decided to go back to WM/Android as it´s to damn closed platform it seems like apple...
If WM is really dying which I doubt I think I go to Android instead...
Please let me know what you finally decide to upgrade
Cheers,
Maybe Galaxy Tab if nothing good comes out in the near future.
We win mo users don't want a new OS or high config devices as much we need really new --FRESH-- apps,but maybe the new apps reqire both the things..OS+new hardware.
Otherwise I stll have some of the handsets in my sig(and some nokia ones also)

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