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Hey,
I am personally just bursting with excitement over the possibility of getting WM6 on my tornado, even though (like most folks) I doubt that I have any ability to contribute technically to the effort. So, just to get my ideas out, without cluttering the "Official WM6 thread", I started this one. This is so people who really know what they are doing don't have to screw with the clutter, unless they want to.
So, my first hope for the new ROM--I doubt that there could have been much improvement to crappy Windows Media Player, so my suggestion is that that be removed, and replaced with TCPMP.
Why not customize instalation
Sorry about my english, but why not a customize instalation ?
Like WINDOWS, you can choose in advance what aplication you want, or similar thing, like, they can generate a lot of roms with english an other language in order to save space. I will only install the rom with english and spanish.
Also, I prefer that Pocket Office will be included in the rom that you are cocking.
Thanks
Ok, plan at the moment... English ONLY ROM with various language packs (including t9) that will be available as CABs for separate installation to save precious storage. The 'vanilla' ROM (no t9, no task manager, no office, no camera) only has around 19mb of storage to play with :S
Office will be available as a CAB, again to save space. WMP has been improved with support for the creating and saving of playlists on the device. TCPMP MAY be embedded depending on how many people prefer it over WMP.
As for other stuff, I'm open to ideas, it's really up to YOU how you want this ROM to work and what's in it (within reason of course )
BTW good idea to start a new thread for requests in the ROM (useful for saving clutter ) I'll link to this in my original post in 'The Official WM6 Thread'
Phil
TCMP only is a BAD IDEA!
Error post... disregard. Next post covers everything I wanted to say.
TCMP only is a BAD IDEA!
I love TCMP, but it can't replace WMP.
Yeah, TCMP is a better player for just about everything, but there are certain things that I still need to use WMP for.
For example, streaming media is a nightmare for me in TCMP because of certain proxy servers I use. WMP shares IE's proxy settings, so if IE can see the internet, WMP can, whereas TCMP can't.
Also, I've run across some weird files (high bitrate aac's) that froze TCMP, but WMP skips over the corrupted portion and keeps playing.
Yes, TCMP is great, but not at the cost of WMP. Please, don't take it out.
Personally, just install TCMP on a storage card, and everyone should be fine!
While we're on it...
You say that you're going to make office a .cab optional installation.
Interesting... Hey, this is a long shot, but is there any way we could try that with a WM5 device? I'm really just looking for office mobile, so if there was a way to extract that and make it work on wm5, that would be AMAZING.
I know, there's probably some propietary WM6-only stuff that would prevent it from working, but thought I would ask.
Ι think that there is no one here prefers WMP over TCPMP (or Core Player) but there is no reason include it in the rom. As you said the storage memory in Tornado is valuable and I like like your idea to give us language packs in seperate cab files. I only need English and Greek pack.
Also Office and Adobe LE have already ported from rom and work fine in storage card, so no need to be in rom.
keep on good work, can't wait!!
i believe that the applications that are to be put in the rom are the standard ones... cause like everyone has said memory is so valuable... and besides you can install tcmp to it anytime you want but you cant install wmp if you take it out... to say replace wmp with tcmp in my opinon is selfish...
oh and i would like to recommend to map the media buttons (Short_AP1-4.lnk's i think) like those on the imate sp5m,qtek8300 and t-mobile sda as default... most roms even the custom iphone dropped this... cause its a nice feature of the tornadoes... and if those arent the "would be" users preference its easy to remap it with something else but remapping it to a rom that dosent support it (like the c500 rom) is really hard... just my 2 cents...
I suppose there is a use for WMP...I do use it to play drm-protected (license only) wma files. but maybe coreplayer can get licenses? I suppose if we have to have wmp, tcpmp will stay on the storage card. no complaints.
I do hope that a2dp support exists in the new rom. That is something I can't live without.
With regards to the media player buttons...that would of course be different between 8310/sp5 and 8300/sp5m. It is easy enough to customise those in existing wm5 roms, but I wonder what version of tornado this rom is coming from?
Sorry for my poor english. Is it real to do that new rom will be unlocked passing over in silence? That will be handy to use. My opinion that there is no reason to include in rom those application that can be installable by the separete cab files. Every one can decide what to install by itself. I think there is no need to include in rom WML or pocket MSN, original file manager and task manager. Every one can decide what to use. Thanks.
good point lovetz... making them installable cabs would save alot of memory... and yes the file explorer from the rom does suck ends! maybe our chefs could do that...
and yes i hope they put in a2dp support!!! good bye wires!!!
I personally prefer a clean ROM with stable Radio version. Just put in all the default softwares that a typical WM6 device will have to make it 'real' and pure WM6. Then from there, users can choose what they want to install. Perhaps put some options so that softwares like File Explorer, WMP can be uninstalled from the Remove Programs part
Few updates for you
A2DP - built into the ROM already
Office for WM5 - HERE
WMP will be staying and TCPMP will be packaged as a CAB
Phil
Whether the FrameWork.NET will be built-in this rom? And what version if will be.
Completely agree with this opinion: a "clean and stable" standard WM6 ROM. Everything else goes to Storage Card. Thank you for a great job !
karhoe said:
I personally prefer a clean ROM with stable Radio version. Just put in all the default softwares that a typical WM6 device will have to make it 'real' and pure WM6. Then from there, users can choose what they want to install. Perhaps put some options so that softwares like File Explorer, WMP can be uninstalled from the Remove Programs part
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WM6 is using AKU3 and NETCF2, even if its not, now we have the option to install NETCF2 into storage card directly, just download the latest NETCF2 SP2 and choose to install at storage card
karhoe I already have this version of FW.NET on my SD. I'm interesting in this, koz i need more free space in new rom. Is it possible to remove this application from rom?
It's possible yeah but why would you want to? If I ripped it out of the ROM then I'd have to put in .NET CF 1.1 and you wouldn't save any space at all...
Phil
This will be incredible if I am able to load WM6 on my Tornado. I would have no problem sending a Paypal donation? Thanks for taking our suggestion on how to make this better and is awfully kind. My only question is whether there will be a Qtek 8300, Imate SP5m version and a Qtek 8310, Imate SP5 version also?
There will be a .zip with the relevant shortcuts for each model in it that you just need to unzip to the /Windows folder on your device...
As for paypal, I'll add a donation link when i get round to setting up a paypal account/remembering my password
Phil
If you remove .NETCF from rom, all can install it to SD by themselfs using cab file. This will free more space in rom. I'm about that this app. can be installed from separate cab file to the SD card, not to the main memory as if it be in rom.
Alright guys thats what I 've made for my own use, I thought I could share it with you too.
Its based on the Anichillus' Core 2.0n
SEE NO EVIL
CHARACTERISTICS:
Removed:
Windows Live
SoftKey
Added:
PocketXpdf
Alt Tab Function Assigned to Voice Rec Button (just press)
Anichillus' Keyboard Skin
BtCrawler (with extras activated)
WifiFoFum
PIM Back up 1.8
Total Commander
Pocket Rar
NotePad
PHM Registry Editor
Sip Config
SmartsKey
SMSDRFix
The Core Pocket Media Player
WM5torage 1.73
CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD
CLICK HERE FOR PATCH v1.0 (Install in Device)
Updates:
PPCPimBackup 1.9
SMSDRFix Fix
Feel Free to Post your Comments!!!
Does this have blackberry enabled?
working fine here, thx for this release,
adam_dublin said:
Does this have blackberry enabled?
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No mate, No Blackberry in this ROM probably the next one...
Running it for a few day's now and it's perfect. Thx
Flash junky gotta try........
I just finished installing all my goodies...so far so good.
It's not as snappy as I expected but definately stable, most importantly...everything works. If it survives 2 or more days on my device...you got a winner.
What I liked about this rom is that I use what's already cooked into it...less for me to install & more storage space for me.
dwny said:
Flash junky gotta try........
I just finished installing all my goodies...so far so good.
It's not as snappy as I expected but definately stable, most importantly...everything works. If it survives 2 or more days on my device...you got a winner.
What I liked about this rom is that I use what's already cooked into it...less for me to install & more storage space for me.
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It will surely last 2 days, and, thanks mate! I am working on the next one which will Totally ROCK!
Hi WizeMan,
thanks for the release. I´ve got it since yesterday and seems ok. Btw. I like your splashscreens
burticek said:
Hi WizeMan,
thanks for the release. I´ve got it since yesterday and seems ok. Btw. I like your splashscreens
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Thanks mate, Last night i posted a lil' patch, its on the first post, get it guys!
Hi WizeMan,
I tried your patch but I had to uninstall it. I couldn´t have changed the lanugage in phonepad. It was always in english. After uninstalling it works OK.
burticek said:
Hi WizeMan,
I tried your patch but I had to uninstall it. I couldn´t have changed the lanugage in phonepad. It was always in english. After uninstalling it works OK.
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I don't quite get it. What do you mean you couldn't change the phonepad language? Please explain me, because the patch does not affect phonepad nor smart dialing... It just has the correct registry values for SMSDRFix and the new .exe for PPCPimBackup (replaces the old one)
If someone has also installed it... post here m8s
With PhonePad you can use T9 in different languages (I use Czech) and if I install your patch it´s no more possible to use another language but english. You can change it, but if you open the settings once again there is selected english. After uninstalling it, czech language works fine. So I´ve installed just SMSDeliveryfix and it also works as it´s supposed to. I haven´t tried just PIM backup. Maybe it´s caused by it.
WizeMan said:
Alright guys thats what I 've made for my own use, I thought I could share it with you too.
Its based on the Anichillus' Core 2.0n
SEE NO EVIL
CHARACTERISTICS:
Removed:
Windows Live
SoftKey
Added:
PocketXpdf
Alt Tab Function Assigned to Voice Rec Button (just press)
Anichillus' Keyboard Skin
BtCrawler (with extras activated)
WifiFoFum
PIM Back up 1.8
Total Commander
Pocket Rar
NotePad
PHM Registry Editor
Sip Config
SmartsKey
SMSDRFix
The Core Pocket Media Player
WM5torage 1.73
CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD
CLICK HERE FOR PATCH v1.0 (Install in Device)
Updates:
PPCPimBackup 1.9
SMSDRFix Fix
Feel Free to Post your Comments!!!
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Thank u for nice selection
Just some newbie questions:
- PIM Back up, Sip Config, The Core Pocket Media Player what can they do ?
- I prefer the color in Mun's keyboard, can i install keyboard cab on the Anichillus one ?
- Can I uninstall TC (because i use Resco Explore) ?
- The software added can be update after with a simple .cab ?
Thank u
kennygunie said:
Thank u for nice selection
Just some newbie questions:
- PIM Back up, Sip Config, The Core Pocket Media Player what can they do ?
- I prefer the color in Mun's keyboard, can i install keyboard cab on the Anichillus one ?
- Can I uninstall TC (because i use Resco Explore) ?
- The software added can be update after with a simple .cab ?
Thank u
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1. PIM Backup : Backs up your Contacts , SMS-MMS-EMAIL, Caldendar etc, into a file and you can restore it later using again PIM Backup.
2. Sip Config : Is a nice program made by a user of this forum, in order to configure VoIp function of WM6 (the provider)
3. Pocket Media Player is a freeware Video player that can also decode divx files
4. You can Install the Muns' keyboard cab, it will just replace the ROM's msim.96.dll.0409.mui from the Windows Directory. And of course you 'll get your keyboard.
5. You cannot uninstall TC, as it is into the ROM. I also have Resco Explorer but after a Hard Reset TC will be there ready to help you browse the files.
6. No, the software added (except TCMP which is installed from the extended rom) cannot be upgraded with a cab file that comes from the original software makers, because the file locations on a Cooked ROM are completely different. Only if a Chef re-makes the cab to change the file installation locations it will work.
burticek said:
With PhonePad you can use T9 in different languages (I use Czech) and if I install your patch it´s no more possible to use another language but english. You can change it, but if you open the settings once again there is selected english. After uninstalling it, czech language works fine. So I´ve installed just SMSDeliveryfix and it also works as it´s supposed to. I haven´t tried just PIM backup. Maybe it´s caused by it.
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I tested that (The Phone Pad Problem) and it works just fine. Czech is selected, I also wrote sms with Czech T9 and then in the Language settings tab, Czech was still selected. And of course I have the patch installed.
So, I don´t know. Maybe there was another software collision. Never mind. Btw. I still have your rom ;-)
burticek said:
So, I don´t know. Maybe there was another software collision. Never mind. Btw. I still have your rom ;-)
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Nice to hear that, I tried to cook the ROM with the most useful Packages so it is has all the needed software to begin with plus its super fast and lightweight.
My first non-offical ROM
Wizeman I thank you for this ROM.
I've been using it for 3 days and i'am pretty happy with it.
Just that automatic lock thing that I don't know how to disable.
Language pack would be a good idea. I have a French (azerty) wizard.
I finaly succeeded changing the setting but the on screen keyboard is still Qwerty. The word completion is now french and english. If a little software can do this correctly this would be very easy for all non-english people around here.
I'm also waiting for the blackberry edition of this ROM.
Is there any software which let me know which programs are installed in memory and which in storage and how much space they are occupied?
Try this......
MemMaid.... Link is in my signature!
any freeware?
what version of wm are you using? i think wm 6.1 has the upgraded task manager that does what you're looking for., but don't know if that is a route you'd take. 6.1 is a decent feature upgrade anyhow.
edit:
i attached the new wm 6.1 taskmanager, see if it works for you.. just copy the exe to the device and run it.
I have 6.1 but I guess task manager only shows running programs not installed. Correct me if I am wrong.
Introducing...
TLR Kaiser 21.05.08
What's In:
Windows Mobile Professional 6.1
Core based on final HTC release
Radio from HTC final release
OEM based on HTC final release
.net Compact Framework 3.5 with messages DLLs
Remote Desktop Mobile
MoDaCo Splash Screen
Custom performance tweaks
AppToDate in ROM for update notifications and OTA update
UC compliant
What's Out:
.net Compact Framework 2.0 (3.5 is backwards compatible)
The aim of this ROM is to create one that looks and feels as stock as possible, while still getting the latest and greatest in there. IT IS COMPLETELY 'HTC' IN LOOK AND FEEL.
How to install
Install HardSPL on your device from here
Ensure the device is hooked up and ActiveSync is showing 'green'
Run this update to flash your device
That's it, you're done!
Optional (but recommended) post install additions
Currently being tested, online soon!
Credits
Paul for AppToDate, everyone who installed the last ROMs, XDA-Devs members for HardSPL, CustomRUU and the UC functionality. You all rock!
And Finally
If you find any issues, post them here and i'll do my best to fix!
Is this one with the improved graphic drivers? I am not saying the diamond drivers, because as far as i understand the diamond drivers are not ready for cooking...
It's the stock HTC 6.1 release drivers at this stage! I'll add in improved drivers if / when they come along...
It's the stock HTC 6.1 release drivers at this stage! I'll add in improved drivers if / when they come along...
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But this means it has the improvements of HTC's (un)official ROM which means spb DDB BitBit performance, right?
Very likely, cause its the latest build.
Need download link to try the rom.
badguy999 said:
Very likely, cause its the latest build.
Need download link to try the rom.
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It's in the first post.
http://www.mediafire.com/?zlfx0mmdjsa
Another link for great rom:
http://www.2shared.com/file/3321273/8b247002/tlr-210508.html
free sotrage: 128MB
free prgram memory:55MB
-Screen rotation is fast and smooth - in 1 piece
-new look of settings in camera application
-fast as L26_Kaiser_Diamond_Version_1 (also the same free program memory, 90 mb storage memory)
-some good tweaks
-wifi OK
-syncro OK
screens:
skype
is this rom skype compatible???
i like this rom but I want to Reorganize programs into certain folders
How do i do this?
Also, is there any way to choose where/what folder Cabs install to?
Same bug as the leaked HTC one, text not displayed on landscape mode if cleartype is enabled.
Little else has been changed.
BzeBwoi said:
i like this rom but I want to Reorganize programs into certain folders
How do i do this?
Also, is there any way to choose where/what folder Cabs install to?
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What do yo mean?... Reorganize programs in start menu or program in Program Files folder??...
If it is the menu, you can use Total Commander (free) and navigate to /Windows/Start Menu...
Do what ever you want to...
EDIT: And for the installation location, you can choose to install in internal memory or storage card... All apps will go to Program Files, but some will go to windows folder.
tugas2khas said:
What do yo mean?... Reorganize programs in start menu or program in Program Files folder??...
If it is the menu, you can use Total Commander (free) and navigate to /Windows/Start Menu...
Do what ever you want to...
EDIT: And for the installation location, you can choose to install in internal memory or storage card... All apps will go to Program Files, but some will go to windows folder.
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I mean to organize from in the start > Programs Folder
I want to put like all the audio/video programs in a folder called Multimedia or all utilities i.e. advanced config or kaiser tweak into a folder called Utilities.
Ive seen these types of folders on other Roms i've flashed and would just like to organize this one similar to those.
BzeBwoi said:
I mean to organize from in the start > Programs Folder
I want to put like all the audio/video programs in a folder called Multimedia or all utilities i.e. advanced config or kaiser tweak into a folder called Utilities.
Ive seen these types of folders on other Roms i've flashed and would just like to organize this one similar to those.
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Just go to \Windows\Start menu\Programs, create folders and cut/paste the shortcuts, it's like any Windows.
wow, this thread is really quite... maybe everybody is flocking around the new diamond. well, i find this rom stable and ok for my everyday use. I've use several other rom but i have problem with japanese keyboard (lingvosoft), but i didn't have problem with this rom. maybe some software didn't play well with the keyboard.
Well, it feels like the very first experience with kaiser when using this rom as all about it is stock rom..
cleaning it up a little
Thanks for the clean stock ROM. I like its performance and love the fact that there isn't a ton of stuff added. I've cooked my ROM's using Alex's kitchen in the past and like mine to be even cleaner. Is there any way to remove some of the installed programs? I'd be interested in removing the following:
- sliding sounds
- voice dial
- task manager
- windows update
- apptodate
- messenger
- remote desktop
- windows live
BzeBwoi said:
I mean to organize from in the start > Programs Folder
I want to put like all the audio/video programs in a folder called Multimedia or all utilities i.e. advanced config or kaiser tweak into a folder called Utilities.
Ive seen these types of folders on other Roms i've flashed and would just like to organize this one similar to those.
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you mean something like this
just go with file explorer(or resco explorer) or any other explorer you use
to
windows/start_menu/programs
and make new folders,named as u want ant cut/past your shortcuts into them
Just to further clarify, this ROM is based off of HTC's (soon to be released) updated Kaiser ROM discussed in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390748?
zaharakis said:
you mean something like this
just go with file explorer(or resco explorer) or any other explorer you use
to
windows/start_menu/programs
and make new folders,named as u want ant cut/past your shortcuts into them
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yea thats exactly what i wanted. thanks guys
Ok, I'm having a problem with this ROM.
If I stilling SPB PocketPlus I start experiencing lock ups on boot (just as the today screen loads) or cyclic rebooting of the device (ie it just boots, then reboots itself repeatedly).
I "think" I also experienced similiar issues with just SPB Mobile Shell 2 as well.
I say "think" because I havnt done any definitive testing, but I've hard reset my device bloody loads today and I can't bring myself to go throught it again!!
If anyone has experienced similiar issues it would be great ot hear what you did to fix it, or if indeed it is even fixable!!
Cheers.
Syphon
EDIT:
I'm having some weird issues with this ROM, today I found my device sitting there just flashing the screen backlight on and off. I have also experienced the backlight turning off at weird times. It's not as if the power settings just timed out and the screen turned off, it seems to happen randomly (in that it doesnt always happen) but it happens when I press a button or a key. Very strange.
If anyone knows what could be causing this any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
PS.
In the meantime I am going to give the latest official HTC rom a shot, failing that I will fall back to the previous TLR release (which worked ok on my device IIRC).
EDIT:
Doesnt look like I'll be rolling back as the previous TLR ROM is not on the XDA FTP or on his FTP!! D'oh.
Is There a Cooked WM 6.5 Rom that still allows the phone to use the PTT function as intended? or Do I have to stick to 6.1 to use this feature?
I have cooked a WM6.1 Bloat Free ROM based on the Official Fuze Update ROM. PTT included. WM6.5 is still buggy. check it out you might like it. see my signature.
Thank You Im Downloading the File Now
Yea I was gonna mention Chadsters rom as its just a cleaned up Stock rom with some sweet tweaks.
I'm almost positive that the PTT feature has been yanked out of just about every other rom as most do not use it. I'm confident that the pulled packaged was made into an installable cab file for those who did require it.
If you obtain the PTT cab file, you could install it on any ROM of your choice (results may vary).