Hey everyone! I'm happy to be a member here!
I have been considering getting the AT&T version of the phone (Fuze), but have a few questions regarding features:
1) Music and FM Radio - Can you leave it playing in the background while doing other things on the phone?
2) Data - If you have a WIFI connection to the internet, will it use that as a primary connection instead of using the carriers network? Can you turn the carrier data usage off? (I realize this might be different with different ROMS).
3) Alarm Clock - Can you customize alarm tones? Will the alarm still sound even when phone is set to silent?
4) Ringtones - Can you customize message tones? Does the phone have a "vibrate & ring" function?
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I so far have been interested in flashing this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751.
If I have the Microsoft WM virtual software, can I use it to test the custom roms?
1. I'm pretty sure you can, I just don't usually use my phone for music because of the nonexistant 3.5mm headphone jack.
2. Yes you can use wifi as the primary connection, I also do not have a data plan, you can shutoff data in the settings menu and you can download a data blocking program just in case. Be careful though i've had instances where i forgot to turn on wifi and it still used data. A last resort would be to call ATT and tell them to turn off any data connections.
3. I have not used the built in alarm, but i have used the KLAXON alarm program and it still rang when i had my phone on vibrate.
4. Yes the phone has a vibrate and ring function, I'm pretty sure you can change the message ringtone as well.
Other members may need to clarify these things though.
Yes to all four but I will say do not get the FUZE now. Its successor is going to be out within 2 months, wait for that.
Thanks for the responses!
petard said:
Yes to all four but I will say do not get the FUZE now. Its successor is going to be out within 2 months, wait for that.
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I have thought about that, the Rhodium, right? I have a few reasons why I wont be getting that. For one, once that is out, the Fuze will be cheaper. I am not looking to get one immediately, maybe within the next 3-4 months. For another, there is not much development for it yet, and I want to immediately flash it with an updated ROM to get the most out of it. But I agree, the Rhodium does look great!
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Thanks for the responses!
I have thought about that, the Rhodium, right? I have a few reasons why I wont be getting that. For one, once that is out, the Fuze will be cheaper. I am not looking to get one immediately, maybe within the next 3-4 months. For another, there is not much development for it yet, and I want to immediately flash it with an updated ROM to get the most out of it. But I agree, the Rhodium does look great!
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Hard SPL just came out and custom roms are ready... But whatever floats your boat.
Another question:
Can the musicplayer AND FM radio go out on the speakerphone? Or do you have to have headphones plugged in?
i believe fm can go out of the speakerphone since music can. you just need some sort of wire to act as an atenna for the program.
I listen to my music on speakerphone sometimes when i'm alone and i do not have access to my laptop.
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Another question:
Can the musicplayer AND FM radio go out on the speakerphone? Or do you have to have headphones plugged in?
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FM radio uses headset as antennae so it will not function through speaker.
Bruce Inman said:
FM radio uses headset as antennae so it will not function through speaker.
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it CAN come out of the speaker(you can toggle between speaker and headset/headphones), but you need to connect the headset in order to use the radio, as the headset acts as the antenna...
without a headset, if you try to turn on the radio, the app will tell you to connect a headset....
you can use the (included) extUSB adapter with a 3.5mm regular earphones to use the radio
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it CAN come out of the speaker(you can toggle between speaker and headset/headphones), but you need to connect the headset in order to use the radio, as the headset acts as the antenna...
without a headset, if you try to turn on the radio, the app will tell you to connect a headset....
you can use the (included) extUSB adapter with a 3.5mm regular earphones to use the radio
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That's right, I forgot that you can toggle from the UI.
The FM Radio can go through the speaker. There is a button you can press to switch the feed through headphones or speaker. But of course headphones must be plugged in to get signal.
You can customize practically every sound that comes out of it, e-mail, sms, mms, phone, etc. You can also customize the phone ringer however you want. The way I set mine up is to "vibrate 1 second, pause 1 second, vibrate 1 second, continue vibrating and then ring". This allows me to notice my phone is ringing and give me 3 seconds to get it out of my pocket and answer it before it actually makes any noise. You can modify this with a registry entry, it isn't difficult
Yeah, I am loving the customization aspects of this phone from what I have seen so far, of course WM6+ makes it possible, plus all of the developers cooking roms for us! Thanks for all the input! I can't wait to get one. Now if I could just find one cheap that doesnt require a data plan. (That's what WIFI is for).
I have an app that adds the Remote Desktop Utility this version of WM, dang that will be handy! This phone with custom flashes could be a do all device!
Another question. With the Energy ROM specifically, is it possible to play .FLV files? How about DVD (video) .ISO files?
Thanks again!
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Solution found: use battery status. In its last builds it has an option to enable A2DP directly by pressing BT tray icon
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Hi mates,
Does everybody has the same problem with BT profiles ?
It goes well from stereo (listening music) to headset (calling) profile, when a call is incoming. But when the call is ended, or if you disabled bluetooth meanwhile (or turned off the headset), you must go to BT options, devices, then tap 'n hold the headset and set it as wireless stereo. Quite a long operation for a simple task, I had in mind that someone could write a cmd-line app which would do this ?
I had once a rom/a2dp patch/reg values combination that worked well with calls ending -> music goes on. But thus it didn't automatically connect the headset (as wireless stereo) on first start. Maybe this is by design, to avoid cutting off the sound coming out from the pda each time you activate BT, but it's annoying to me
So..... Am I the only one ?
Niko
ps: Vijay's VJVolubilis almost do this, but only for headset profile AFAIK
No, the 'not-returning a2dp club' is full of people... you can be the mr. president if you want...
I had the same problem. I returned my BT stereo headset because of the same problems. I'm done with A2DP.
FYI, I asked a few authors to check if they can do something about this.
So you may follow the development of those apps if you're interested in a one-click A2DP Stereo connection : AEBPlus, Battery Status and VJVolubilis.
I'll try to post again when something new is coming.
Ah... have any of you guys tried the later A2DP patches?
And why not just use the bluetooth button to reconnect wireless stereo?
I don't have any hardware button, nor any icon (except the one from battery status) associated to bluetooth. Would you please detail what you were talking about ? If it's an icon, could you try to extract the corresponding exe ?
I tried many A2DP patches, not sure if they are the latests or not, but none provided automatic stereo reconnection, at least when I just turned my headset (or bluetooth) on. Since I do that often....
I mean the button on your bluetooth headset. Click it once to connect; sometimes it needs another click to activate wireless stereo. I know not every headset supports this, but an A2DP headset should.
You might have to set wireless stereo once from the device, but after that, the headset should activate using its button the next time.
Resume problem should be fixed with the AKU3+ A2DP patches. Again, YMMV.
Note: Sorry for the double-post... site's really slow.
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I mean the button on your bluetooth headset
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It doesn't have one..... it automatically connect, but in headset mode (phone), not stereo
I'll try to test with another one in a shop.
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Resume problem should be fixed with the AKU3+ A2DP patches. Again, YMMV.
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Sorry but.... YMMV ? ^^
Didn't try AKU3.x yet, have you hear good reports from prophet users ? I haven't at that time..
I'll give it a try (or WM6) when my device will be back from warranty
See comment #26. Certainly not conclusive based on one report. I've never encountered the problem, so....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284344&page=3
It doesn't have a button? How does it answer phone calls then? Or the button pops up the phone app on the first press instead of just connecting?
The main button can answer calls, or end a current call.
Its second ability is to turn on/off the headset
I have AVRCP buttons for next/prev music operation, and one of them can dial the last number when pressed for a long time.
I guess I can also reject a call, can't remember how, but the connection thing is supposed to be automatic (Already tried to press buttons to check if it would (re)connect...)
Since it's kind of noname headset (CallStell), I won't even try to request help from them ^^
hum, that's it
ps: What does YMMV stands for ?
I'll give a try to that new patch. Interesting thread btw ! Can't read it completely by now, can I try that patch if I'm still on AKU2.x rom ?
Hmmm... my guess is that the power button or the call answer button should (re-) connect the headset once you have done it once manually ("set as wireless stereo"). Or maybe not.
There are two versions on that thread - one is from AKU 3.3, the other is from WM6. Not much difference between the two, but they are both better than the older Tornado patch in terms of compatibility, IMHO. Either can be used for any version of Prophet AKU 2.0 and up.
Oh, YMMV - your mileage may vary.
please explain more about installation.
where can i get ruu file for prophet?
meykou, just go through this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284344
Makes a lot more sense if you read it from the beginning. Hard to explain otherwise.
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Hmmm... my guess is that the power button or the call answer button should (re-) connect the headset once you have done it once manually ("set as wireless stereo"). Or maybe not.
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I once tried many A2DP patches/few rom versions and player combinations.
I got different results, few were very poor, most of 'em was pretty nice.
But it always missed at least 1 thing ^^
Either the sound quality, the resume-after-call or the sound-drop **** ^^
But I'm not sure anymore if I managed to get rid of the latter at least once.. but it was not that bad, one sound drop every 2 songs, for 1 or 2s., or so... still anoying, but usable.
Oh, and what I first wanted to say, I tried to reconnect via the main button, but no results. I should try with another headset, btw. What's yours ? And would you advise me to buy it ?
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There are two versions on that thread - one is from AKU 3.3, the other is from WM6. Not much difference between the two, but they are both better than the older Tornado patch in terms of compatibility, IMHO. Either can be used for any version of Prophet AKU 2.0 and up.
Oh, YMMV - your mileage may vary.
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Oh, ok
I downloaded both of them, and will give a new try to every combination I can figure out as soon as I have more time.
Thanks for your answers btw. I'll keep posting if a software solution is found.
And I'm quite sure that meykou only wants a working-one-click-install WM6 rom
Well, good luck. I'm using the i.Tech R35, BTW.
A2DP + Prophet + Music resume
Wow! It works.
It took time for me to realise that it resumes music after a little pouse.
I need to push button only once to cancel the phone call.
Hallo,
I now have my device for a week and i'm verry happy with it.
But yesterday i tried to use the FM radio in the train and i was verry dissapointed with that.
I can't get a normal signal from any radio station.
I first toth it was because i was in a train..but when i arrived at the trainstation andn walked outside my signal still was verry bad.
I tried a couple of settings in my FM radio but nothing helped.
The only thing i tould worked, was to turn down the volume till 10% en turn the volume on the headset down.
Then i got some signal..but still it was verry bad.
Are there other people with the same problem..is it just a bad FM player in every device..or is my device broken?
Or is it just the headset that can give this problem?
Please can somebody give me some tips to make the signal better so i can use my device in the train as FM-radio.
I have the same problem : very bad signal on FM radio .
Is it a hardware or software problem ?
The radio is useless in this circumstances
Note : a simple "mini player" radio FM bought $3 (there are 6 years) is better than Touch Cruise (Polaris).
It,s not the radio it,s the headphone,try with other (3300's headphone or HTC E100)and u will c.
My radio seems to work fine, not as good as my old Sony Ericsson, but good enough for me.
I know it seems silly but have you tried moving the headphones wire around; don't forget it acts as the antenna for the radio.
Yeah tried that before.
Didn't change anything.
But i will try to use a other headset..maby this will work.
Otherwise im going to give a call to the helpdesk of HTC
My signal is bad as well, i had an old nokia 6610 before the polaris and his radio was way better in signal quality, if someone tests with different headphones please let us know so i`ll change mine.
Called the helpdesk today and they said it is probably the headset.
Tomorrow they will get my device incl. headset back to the factory and will find out wath the problem really is.
So its back to the factory after 1 1/2 week!
Thats really the fastes return i ever had with a device.
Hope this will solve something otherwise it's never a HTC device again
After the disapointing video playback and the rest of the problems with the drivers and now the problems with the fm radio..this is really pising me off.
Well i let you know if the problems are solved when the device is returned to me.
>I complained to HTC about having a lot of interference some time ago and >here is their response!
>It appears that you have to buy a better headdset if you want to listen to radio
Good Morning,
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We are sorry for your disappointment, we do understand how frustrating it is. However, the only thing this device has is a radio receiver. It receives FM frequency waves but in other to be able to listen to it you need to add more features to it.
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Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
the isn't any piece that we can put in the pda to increise the sinal?
thanks
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>I complained to HTC about having a lot of interference some time ago and >here is their response!
>It appears that you have to buy a better headdset if you want to listen to radio
Good Morning,
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We are sorry for your disappointment, we do understand how frustrating it is. However, the only thing this device has is a radio receiver. It receives FM frequency waves but in other to be able to listen to it you need to add more features to it.
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Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
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Is anyone knows through experience what headset work better with TC?
i think i would have to agree with others to try another headset. fm radio is just pretty much a extra so i wouldnt complain too much. if it would be so good the athena and other devices would have it. it is just there for using once in a while etc.. also i bet though this is htc's work bc if they used a internal antenna instead i bet it would be much better than using the headset
Top Mario said:
Is anyone knows through experience what headset work better with TC?
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HTC Touch Cruise E100 Wired Remote Control
giannis42 said:
HTC Touch Cruise E100 Wired Remote Control
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Thanks Giannis42
It look good, have you tried? what about that driver, is it TC friendly? a bit expensive, but if is a mind blowing I might buy it.
I lost my original TC headset three days after I bought it.
Pawel062 said:
i think i would have to agree with others to try another headset. fm radio is just pretty much a extra so i wouldnt complain too much.
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Why is it a extra?
Thay say that it has FM radio in the device..so it's not extra.
Otherwise the phone function is extra to :S..and if that doesn't work i complain about it also..wouldn't you??
If they say its has FM radio than i think that it has to work good..even if i use i a couple of times.
Btw. my device is being sent back..so it's now waiting for a answer from them.
Keep you informated!
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Thanks Giannis42
It look good, have you tried?(YES)... what about that driver, is it TC friendly(YES)? a bit expensive, but if is a mind blowing I might buy it.
I lost my original TC headset three days after I bought it.
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Description
Keep your phone in your pocket with the HTC RC E100 Music Remote Control. The Music Remote Control lets you easily answer and make calls and play back your music by simply pressing a button. Clip the stylish Remote Control to your clothing and you have music playback and phone controls at your fingertips. Also, with the built-in FM antenna giving a signal boost, listening to FM radio stations is crystal clear (see note below).
Key Features
- The E100 includes 3.5mm stereo earphones or use your own!
- Voice dial support
- Last number redial support
- Volume buttons
- Music control buttons
- Play/Pause button
- Forward/Backward buttons for music playback or FM channel selection
- Phone buttons
- Send button to answer calls, call waiting switch or redial last number
- End button to end a call or use voice dial
- Mute button to silence ringtone when an incoming call comes or mute the microphone during an ongoing call
- Hold switch to lock/unlock the remote control
- Two colours: Black or white
Note: Only applies to devices with integrated FM Radio function
I have the wired remote (w100) that i used with my tytn II.
Just a heads up, it's only works with audio manager and windows media player (and htc radio obviously).
My cruise should be here soon hopefully so I will test it out.
HTC seems to take shortcuts with their devices. Antenna should not be in headest, should be in chip, plain and simple.
Also their wired remote is not perfect. It brings audio manager/windows media player to foreground of your phone whenever you press any of the buttons.
Also if you have suspend power on or screen off and you change volume of music via remote, the wakes up the device etc.. but i think if you lock it it might go back to sleep, can't remember.
Also keep in mind that it has a good length cord, from pocket to neck or so, but remmber your headphones you have to attach are long so you have a lot of extra cord! I have to wrap my head phones cord up and use twist ties! If I could find a pair of short wired good head phonesi would be happy but the ones i bought wer normal long wired ones to go with my remote.
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Thanks Giannis42
It look good, have you tried? what about that driver, is it TC friendly? a bit expensive, but if is a mind blowing I might buy it.
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I have a Nevada personal DAB/FM radio which I use on the train. The Orbit 2 + E100 is at least as good as the Nevada for FM reception.
The only problem is, as mentioned elsewhere, if you press any of the controls on the E100 when listening to the FM radio the screen comes back on.
Cheers,
Paul
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HTC seems to take shortcuts with their devices. Antenna should not be in headest, should be in chip, plain and simple.
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I've seen several people saying something similar to this but I just don't see how it's possible.
FM radio stations use a 3 metre wavelength. What signal level are you going to pick up with an aerial that's max 10 cm long?
I admit I'm no expert on aerial design etc but I have never seen a (useful) FM radio with an aerial less than about 40 cm.
Cheers,
Paul
i have a wireless bluetooth headphone but i can't put the radio working with this device, is there any solution? by the way is there any change of put an internal antena on this device?
The O2 xda ORBIT 2 comes with the E100 and even then the reception isnt that great.
Nogs
Hi
this is my first message here....
I was exciting yesterday when i discover this forum!!! I have found a lot of information about the HTC Cruise/Polaris.
I have just a problem:
I fell the RADIO FM very crappy...the signal is alway very disturbed and noise (also when the indication bar are 4/five).
Do you know if there is some trick to adjust or increase the power of the FM radio?
Thank You
There are only a few possibilites...
1. You have a crappy FM reception...
2. You have got a crappy FM chip (in this case get a new one)
3. You didn't tune the channel in correctly
4. You've got a crappy headset (you can check it whith listening to some mp3s)
5. If you have a French ROM, then check the Upgrading subforum, for more useable ROM versions.
That's all I can think of at first...
I think that your headset is not ok. It happend the same to me. The antenna of the headset bundled with the cruise was not OK. The recepcion was awful. With a different headset everything is OK now. Try with one from another cruise or other htc phone.
could you please suggest me some good "headset"??
in addition i would like to use my Sennheiser CX300...there is a possibility to have a good "antenna" and use my headset?
"I fell the RADIO FM very crappy...the signal is alway very disturbed and noise (also when the indication bar are 4/five)."
mind you the bar indication only show cellphone network reception it
dont show fm signal str
E.Bonobox said:
could you please suggest me some good "headset"??
in addition i would like to use my Sennheiser CX300...there is a possibility to have a good "antenna" and use my headset?
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I own this one:
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=154771&asource=159608
It works fine, allows you to have buttons to control the music reproduction, and allows you to use the Sennheiser. There are simpler models, which transform the usb connector into a 3.5 mm connector which would also allow you to use your sennheiser, although you wouldn't have the buttons. Anyway, make sure that whatever you buy, they have antenna.
Anyway, before buying anything, I would try to borrow from someone a good headset to make sure that the problem with your radio is that. In my case it was. I think that the headset from P3600 and maybe P3300 are compatible.
This application is a hotfix for a really annoying (and potentially unsafe!) bug in the Epic4G:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11372
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/epi...audio-routing-on-epic-4g/msg115990/#msg115990
The long and sort of it is that when anything is plugged into the 3.5mm headphone jack, the phone will only play call audio over that jack.
In order to route the audio through the earpiece, bluetooth or speakerphone, you must pull the plug out of the jack. This is at the very least annoying, and at the very worst potentially dangerous if, for example, you're driving.
How-To
Download the APK attached below for your android version.
Install like any other APK using adb or your favorite file manager.
What it does
This simple application allows you to pick the audio device to use for call audio to override this behavior, and can be changed on the fly.
All in-call audio will be routed to the device you specify when something is plugged into the 3.5mm headphone jack. If nothing is in the jack, the default behavior for the phone applies.
This also allows you to use the Speaker Phone when the headphone jack is occupied, even though the button on the call screen is disabled!
Your configuration should persist between reboots.
What it doesn't do
This app does not route any other type of audio. Your music, notifications, etc will still play over the headphone jack or phone speaker.
Again, this *only* affects in-call voice audio, and only when something is plugged into the headphone jack.
Notes
This app completely overrides the options on the call page! If you want to switch outputs during a call, you will have to do it from this app - your call will not be dropped when changing the output device.
In order to route the call audio properly, the system's mediaserver service must be restarted, however.
This means that any other audio you have playing when you apply the change will be disrupted, and related services may force close. For example, Pandora will skip to the next song. Other applications may not behave that well.
Disclaimer
This app modifies files in the /system partition, so use this at your own risk! I am not responsible for any problems that arise from this hotfix on your device!
This is currently for the EPIC4G *ONLY* - Do not use this on any other device. Please contact me if you have a different phone which experiences this bug and I will see if I can get it working for you as well.
This is *BETA* software, a work in progress, please post here if you experience any issues, but I cannot guarantee it will work for you!
ROM DEVs, feel free to bake this into your roms in whole or part, I encourage it as this provides a workaround for a safety issue, but please give credit if you use or derive from this application.
Special thanks to UberPinguin - his initiative, debugging, code-diving and testing helped make this happen every step of the way!
Many, many thanks to everyone in #samsung-epic for helping me test and work this out.
Be sure to download the APK for the right android version on your phone!
epicBT - v0.3.5 (Froyo)
* Fixed crash/reboot when applying settings in DK17 roms
epicBT - v0.3
* Layout cleanup when root is unavailable
epicBT - v0.2
* Requires root!
* Superuser compatible
* auto-remounts /system RW if necessary
* Sends call audio to wired device ( default ), speaker phone, or bluetooth
Sources
https://github.com/cicada/epicBT
If this works as described above I will be so f-ing happy. One of my biggest gripes, solved.
No sh#t! I was just about to start searching the Market for an app like this! Downloading now to test.
Thank you!
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If this works as described above I will be so f-ing happy. One of my biggest gripes, solved.
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First of all,...Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for working on this... This was one of my biggest gripes with this phone and I couldn't understand why the "geniuses" at Samsung/Sprint couldn't get this right.
I've done some extensive testing in my car for the Eclair version and wanted to share my results:
For the most part, the app does what it's supposed to...but I did notice that:
1) the "on the fly" feature doesn't work so well. That is, when changing from one mode to the other, I had to reboot the phone to get the new setting to take effect. This feature would be great with an app like Tasker, which could automatically open up the app and ask you which setting you want to use when a headset/aux jack is plugged in,...thus giving you the flexibility to use the best option depending on your situation. Is there a way to tweak the app to recognize the switch without rebooting by resetting something like the mediashare service?
2) For some reason, the mic volume (volume heard on the opposite end of call) on the bluetooth setting is lower when the headset/aux jack is plugged in. I'm not sure whether the regular phone mic, speaker phone mic, or the bluetooth mic is utilized in this setting, but the volume is definitely harder to hear on the other end than when the headset jack is unplugged. I would guess about 20-25% lower. I tested this effect during the call as well by plugging and unplugging the jack while counting 1 to 10 and it's the same. Is there away to increase the sensitivity of the bluetooth mic when the headset jack is plugged in?
Donation coming if you can get this working! Thanks again.
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1) the "on the fly" feature doesn't work so well. That is, when changing from one mode to the other, I had to reboot the phone to get the new setting to take effect.
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Strange, it works well for me - it takes a second to switch outputs while mediaserver is restarting, but never had to reboot. I'll look into this, may have accidentally tweaked something in the last build.
UberPinguin and I are still looking at the sources to find a better fix that works the way it's supposed to - the trouble seems to be that Phone.apk is actually selecting the 'correct' source and setting options appropriately, but the underlying OS isn't switching outputs. Restarting mediaserver was the only workaround I could find for this.
sinman02 said:
2) For some reason, the mic volume (volume heard on the opposite end of call) on the bluetooth setting is lower when the headset/aux jack is plugged in. I'm not sure whether the regular phone mic, speaker phone mic, or the bluetooth mic is utilized in this setting, but the volume is definitely harder to hear on the other end than when the headset jack is unplugged. I would guess about 20-25% lower. I tested this effect during the call as well by plugging and unplugging the jack while counting 1 to 10 and it's the same. Is there away to increase the sensitivity of the bluetooth mic when the headset jack is plugged in?
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I hadn't noticed any volume issues but truthfully I haven't been using the BT often because of this bug - I've just been letting my calls go to VM instead of crashing my car Volume selection should be working properly so I'll see if I can add something to select volume as well.
To be clear on the MIC, input should always be the proper input for whichever mode you choose - phone MIC for speakerphone and BT mic for BT HP/HS.
If you're on stock then the phone mic should be used when your wired device doesn't have it's own, however this is broken in all of our custom community kernels - Wired Headset mode should only be used when you actually have a wired headset with a MIC of it's own if you're using one of these, otherwise the phone doesn't enable any MIC at all.
I should note, that all my tests were conducted on outgoing phone calls. I don't know if incoming calls are any different. I am using the Syndicate rom.
If you can get the bluetooth volume issue resolved, I'll likely leave it there, but it would be nice to be able to switch on the fly to speakerphone mode when bluetooth isn't handy.
Question: Does the froyo version have the same implementation?
Please keep up the good work!
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sinman02 said:
Question: Does the froyo version have the same implementation?
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Yes, the froyo version is the same - Samsung used a different asound.conf in froyo ( added in some interesting VOIP pcm ), so this is the only difference between versions currently.
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This application is a hotfix for a really annoying (and potentially unsafe!) bug in the Epic4G:
The long and sort of it is that when anything is plugged into the 3.5mm headphone jack, the phone will only play call audio over that jack.
In order to route the audio through the earpiece, bluetooth or speakerphone, you must pull the plug out of the jack. This is at the very least annoying, and at the very worst potentially dangerous if, for example, you're driving.
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...So this should work on for Sip/VOIP apps like Sipdroid, 3CX, and Fring? I managed to pick up 3CX and Sipdroid through my bluetooth headset but no mic...meaning the other end could not hear me... There aren't that many good sip/voip soft wares out there for the Android today.. I rated Fring the BEST but with no bluetooth support.
EDIT: Nevermind... I read the post again.. I don't think this will do the job other than support for the actual phone.. but it would be nice to have that option for sip/voip as well.
The SIP/VoIP stuff may work better in Froyo considering there are dedicated PCM devices listed in the asound.conf - however I've never used any of these applications, so this is pure speculation.
You're correct, this does only effect in-call phone audio, those applications would be handling (or in this case, not) the bluetooth audio routing directly. I've found lots of other similar quirks with BT on the Epic4G, such as the << and >> buttons on my A2DP headphones not working.
cicada said:
The SIP/VoIP stuff may work better in Froyo considering there are dedicated PCM devices listed in the asound.conf - however I've never used any of these applications, so this is pure speculation.
You're correct, this does only effect in-call phone audio, those applications would be handling (or in this case, not) the bluetooth audio routing directly. I've found lots of other similar quirks with BT on the Epic4G, such as the << and >> buttons on my A2DP headphones not working.
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I am using Froyo the DJ29 Build on the epic... Dare I try?
****ing yea! Thanks, downloading now. This has been my biggest complaint with the phone
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Hell Yea! You rock! I Threw out a fairly long search sentence in google and actually found your post here. No sooner did I install and set it up that my phone rang while plugged into the car audio and FINALLY I can use my friggin BT headset without yelling hold on hold on I gotta unplug the stereo cable. This has really peeved me off since I got the phone. Now what I don't get is why this obvious flaw has been ignored by Samsung and Sprint. Nice job on making it work like it should. BTW running stock 2.1 with root. No bugs so far.
THANK GOD. someone fixed this. bugged me so much in the car when i'm receiving a call. will report any bugs.
bump, updated to fix crash in DK17 based roms
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I hadn't noticed any volume issues but truthfully I haven't been using the BT often because of this bug - I've just been letting my calls go to VM instead of crashing my car Volume selection should be working properly so I'll see if I can add something to select volume as well.
To be clear on the MIC, input should always be the proper input for whichever mode you choose - phone MIC for speakerphone and BT mic for BT HP/HS.
If you're on stock then the phone mic should be used when your wired device doesn't have it's own, however this is broken in all of our custom community kernels - Wired Headset mode should only be used when you actually have a wired headset with a MIC of it's own if you're using one of these, otherwise the phone doesn't enable any MIC at all.
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As others, I'm very grateful for this fix. After trying it out, if it works for me, donation on the way.
Regarding the MIC: My experience, all the way back to pure stock (IIRC) is that there is no MIC at all when a two-channel, stereo plug is inserted (headphones, cassette adapter, etc.). Every time I've been driving, listening to something via the headset jack, when a call comes in I can hear the other party, but they can't hear me at all until I unplug from the jack. So, even though there was no mic plugged in and the device was correctly sending 2-channel audio out through the jack (usually to a cass adapter, so I can listen via my car stereo), but doesn't "do the right thing" with the mic, even though the hardware and drivers are capable of detecting the absence of the mic.
It should, of course, default to the BT mic if there is a BT connection, or the built-in mic otherwise. For some reason this simple flow-diagram logic eludes Samsung.
So I got my first experience with this today...worked great. I was streaming Pandora, phone call came in, music was paused and I answered the call. Once I finished the call, the music continued playing. Minor detail, but since I was on WiFi, is there anyway that the music could have kept on playing while I was still on the call for the sake of my guys who were still working while I was taking the call? It's great that the music paused and resumed by itself, but it would have been cooler to have it keep going while I was on the call.
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.. is there anyway that the music could have kept on playing while I was still on the call .. ?
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Unfortunately Pandora's phone-state listeners control that, it'd have to be modified or their devs would have to add options for it. Would be cool though, I agree
I've got a hacked version of Pandora that allows unlimited skips, I'll have to ask the guy who did it to see if they can tweak that as well. Come to think of it, it'd be nice to have it keep going for the times I'm driving down the road as well so whoevers in the car doesn't have to sit there and listen to me blah blah blah.
So a little (not at all) touted feature of the EDGE is that it contains an active FM tuner in it that can be used to access radio stations over the air. It is very weird that this is a capability that wasn't promoted as, even though this seems like old technology, the beauty of it is that it is built into the EDGE.
Why would I be so excited about this? Because, when you use iHeart or other radio apps to listen to the radio... it is delayed 30 seconds to 5 minutes or more. Not a big deal if listening to music or even talk radio... but a HUGE deal if you are wanting to listen to the radio announcer of a sporting event.
I like to listen to the radio while attending a college football game. Makes it even more interesting and now I can! BUT! The EDGE (and my home tuner) require that there is a wire connected to act as an antenna... otherwise the reception sucks.
I don't want to use a regular wired headset. I HATE wired headsets.
So the question is: Is there a dongle of sorts that could be plugged into the headset jack, that could act as the antenna without routing the audio through it? Next Radio App allows for rerouting the audio through the speaker but it doesn't also include allowing it to be routed to the Bluetooth.
I guess in writing the above I answered my own question with who I should ask next... Next Radio... but thought I'd still throw this out in case y'all know of another app that can use the internal FM Tuner AND send the audio to bluetooth.
Thanks in advance for indulging this question.
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So a little (not at all) touted feature of the EDGE is that it contains an active FM tuner in it that can be used to access radio stations over the air. It is very weird that this is a capability that wasn't promoted as, even though this seems like old technology, the beauty of it is that it is built into the EDGE.
Why would I be so excited about this? Because, when you use iHeart or other radio apps to listen to the radio... it is delayed 30 seconds to 5 minutes or more. Not a big deal if listening to music or even talk radio... but a HUGE deal if you are wanting to listen to the radio announcer of a sporting event.
I like to listen to the radio while attending a college football game. Makes it even more interesting and now I can! BUT! The EDGE (and my home tuner) require that there is a wire connected to act as an antenna... otherwise the reception sucks.
I don't want to use a regular wired headset. I HATE wired headsets.
So the question is: Is there a dongle of sorts that could be plugged into the headset jack, that could act as the antenna without routing the audio through it? Next Radio App allows for rerouting the audio through the speaker but it doesn't also include allowing it to be routed to the Bluetooth.
I guess in writing the above I answered my own question with who I should ask next... Next Radio... but thought I'd still throw this out in case y'all know of another app that can use the internal FM Tuner AND send the audio to bluetooth.
Thanks in advance for indulging this question.
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Do you have the sprint model? Usually every carrier in the US except Sprint removes the FM radio to force people to stream instead. Sprint was the only carrier to have an FM radio on the Note 3 as well.
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To actually answer your question though, there is an app on the Play Store called SoundAbout. It allows you to force various audio (media, notifications, etc.) to be played through a specific output (Speakers, Bluetooth, etc.). You might give that a shot.
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Do you have the sprint model? Usually every carrier in the US except Sprint removes the FM radio to force people to stream instead. Sprint was the only carrier to have an FM radio on the Note 3 as well.
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To actually answer your question though, there is an app on the Play Store called SoundAbout. It allows you to force various audio (media, notifications, etc.) to be played through a specific output (Speakers, Bluetooth, etc.). You might give that a shot.
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Yes. I have the Sprint model. I'm going to have to now check to see if my Note 3 had the FM active. I didn't think that it was... Hmmm....
I'm going to try out SoundAbout. I just bought the PRO version as it has the BT functionality. Need to run by Radio Shack on the way home to get a short audio cable to plug in as the antenna... will report back... Thanks... again.... jooniloh.
hahahah, glad I ran across this thread. I had no idea my phone had a built in FM tuner. Just plugged in my headphones and used the NextRadio app and BAM!! there it was. Thank you