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i am getting an 8125 next week from somebody who was a cingular customer. he got the factory unlock code from a cingular rep (but he cant unlock it cuz he doesnt have a different carriers sim card). is there any difference if i use that to unlock it or if i use the lokiwiz program i keep reading about??
also, as you can probly tell im new to pda's. to load the window mobile 6 would i have to unlock the CID (which im not even sure what it is)? what are the benefits for using wm6 and is it fully functional on the 8125 (ive read a few posts from ppl that say they have problems). i also saw a thread for making an i-phone skin...is it possible to have both wm6 and this iphone skin? also, can anyone explian what this aku2 rom is?
sorry to make this post, but there are so many threads about the stuff i am inquiring about and hundreds of pages and its just too long to go thru. if anybody can help me out that would be appreciated...thanks a bunch!!!
Other than to say you need to read some of the sticky's in the WM6 forum, as well as the Wiki's - here's a few hints:
If you have a G3 - get it CID unlocked. If it's a G4, you can leave it locked and still flash WM6 just fine - if you use shelltool.
WM6 is mostly cool factor, with a few new features. How many people can say they're running WM6? Bleeding edge, baby, but it ain't without some pain.
iPhone skin - yes, and good luck. I tried it, and it was a slow pig - it looked alot like the iPhone, but not worth the bling. Try driving your car with a painted tarp on it. yeah, right. Can barely open the doors.
As for aku2, no idea. Hit search and check it out.
You got lots of reading ahead of you. I spent 10 hours reading before my first attempt at flashing - and I'm a fast reader.
yea im doing a lotta reading....where is the link to the wm6? i cant seem to find it!
check my sig for all unlocking problems...once you do that worry about WM6..Just check out a section and read up on the roms
tha_dream said:
yea im doing a lotta reading....where is the link to the wm6? i cant seem to find it!
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Don't learn by flashing. Learn by reading. $400 is a lot of jack to waste trying to learn by experience.
tha_dream said:
i am getting an 8125 next week from somebody who was a cingular customer. he got the factory unlock code from a cingular rep (but he cant unlock it cuz he doesnt have a different carriers sim card). is there any difference if i use that to unlock it or if i use the lokiwiz program i keep reading about??
also, as you can probly tell im new to pda's. to load the window mobile 6 would i have to unlock the CID (which im not even sure what it is)? what are the benefits for using wm6 and is it fully functional on the 8125 (ive read a few posts from ppl that say they have problems). i also saw a thread for making an i-phone skin...is it possible to have both wm6 and this iphone skin? also, can anyone explian what this aku2 rom is?
sorry to make this post, but there are so many threads about the stuff i am inquiring about and hundreds of pages and its just too long to go thru. if anybody can help me out that would be appreciated...thanks a bunch!!!
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You can't use it with the cingular sim card beause you don't need it!
You have to borrow a sim card other than your carrier's sim card to apply the code. Once applied, the sim portion of your cell is unlocked for life if you have the right code.
Lockwiz will CID unlock your phone as well. Once successfull with this portion, you can install any ROM or Custom ROM....designed for your TYPE of device.
You are currently running an AKU2 ROM.
Based on your line of questioning, you have a WHOLE lot of reading to do. You sound like you're on your way to be stuck in bootloader mode.
Do your reading 1st, collect all your tools and all you need can be found by you doing the research in the threads. All the answers to your questions are in the WIKI....it's your friend.
This was a freebee....if you're not willing to go thru the hundreds of threads, as you stated to get the answer....use the search tool or stay with your factory ROM.
Remember: This is a Developer's Forum, not a USER's Forum
This thread you created was a waste!
no pain ... no gain....
imho it starts to look like a 3th rang helpdesk here
Hello Guys,
I am, what you call a "Noob".
I am about to get the 8125 from Cingular and would like to upgrade to wm6 ... there is no easy thread describing this issue. I do not know what most of the terms mean that you guys use
Soooo:
Is it supportet by Cingular? Is it legal? Is it Better !?
How do I upgrade ?
swell if u read around im sure its not hard.... the only part that requires thinking is determining if you have a G3 or a G4 8125...
heres a great thread that descibes your situation.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
I have read that post and many others and I understand the part about g3 and g4 (versions..) but I am more concerned about background info about wm6 on my 8125 from cingular ...
Reading will give you all the background information you need.
After determining whether you have a G3 or G4 device, you will know whether you can unlock your phone - G3s can be unlocked, G4s cannot (unless you pay). Either way, you can still put WM6 on your device.
Steps for determining which device you have, and then how to CID unlock (if you have a G3) and flash new ROMS can all be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310831. CID unlocking you device WILL void your warranty, and Cingular, or any other carrier, does not support adding ROMS that were not released by them. Is it legal?....well...that is an issue all on its own. There is a thread somewhere here with different thoughts on the issue. I can, however, say from my perspective, WM6 is waaaay better than the WM5 stock carrier ROM. Less crashes, more memory, better programs, more features, more stable, and overall, just a better ROM.
The one thing about WM6 that you do have to remember is that there has not been and is not going to be an official release from any carrier for the wizard. All ROMS here have been "cooked" by various chefs. Some were ported from other devices that have gotten official releases, but a member named InGeNeTiCs managed to get a build specifically made for the wizard, which has been the base for many ROMS. Any ROM with OS 5.2.318 Build 15342.4.0.01 has this base OS. What this means, is that all drivers and everything else was made for the wizard, not for other devices then ported onto the wizard.
When you are ready to flash your ROM, read around and decide what one is for you. The NBD series is really good if you want the touch interface. Personally, I have tried XM6 and TNT and both are very stable classic crossbow ROMS.
As stated in the post above, you must read...read...then read... All the information that has been compiled on this forum cannot be put into one post, so read around.
Good luck!
yoz
Not much else you can say bro besides test them all and see what you like. it takes about 10 mins max to flash each. If you have a dual/quad core system, then put the ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe on realitime priority and it takes about 3 mins Total. You will start flashing regularly i'm sure. Gettr' DONE!
Hello everybody.
Excuse my question if you think it stupid but i can't find the answer.
I can see everybody speaking about HardSPL but i don't know what it is.
May be one of you can tell me something about it and if it is possible to use it with a french orange kaiser.
Sorry for my poor english and thank you to answer me.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
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Thank you for the link
somwone know if is needed to make an hard spl on HP 614c ???
So, when will there be one build for the touch pro2?
There is alot of crap in this os that i would like to get fixed. perhaps win 6.5 will be better, but still not as good as what a few geeks can make.
side note, pretty sad a few geeks can build a better rom than the biggest company in the world.
birddseedd said:
So, when will there be one build for the touch pro2?
There is alot of crap in this os that i would like to get fixed. perhaps win 6.5 will be better, but still not as good as what a few geeks can make.
side note, pretty sad a few geeks can build a better rom than the biggest company in the world.
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Here is one for the Rhodium,.....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
The " geeks " here only have to keep a few " hardcore enthusiasts " happy, and if they don't like the rom that you cooked, tough s##t use someone else's rom. image all the compromises you need to make to keep a million casual users happy.
Well once i learn enough about how to do it. ill probably just make my own rom. unless I find one that is really good.
First i need to learn the proccess and see if its even possible yet with a pro2.
tho the new os is comming out in 2 weeks for sprint.
birddseedd said:
Well once i learn enough about how to do it. ill probably just make my own rom. unless I find one that is really good.
First i need to learn the proccess and see if its even possible yet with a pro2.
tho the new os is comming out in 2 weeks for sprint.
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There are many cooked Roms for the TP2 so yes, it is possible
now i get it, why my phone bugging me with gwes.exe and filesys.exe error cause i upgraded my rom without hard SPL ing them is it fine to hard spl after upgrading the rom ?? cause i do that and now my winmo are working so smooth...
uhuy* said:
now i get it, why my phone bugging me with gwes.exe and filesys.exe error cause i upgraded my rom without hard SPL ing them is it fine to hard spl after upgrading the rom ?? cause i do that and now my winmo are working so smooth...
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i think this question is already answered on previous post above.
but in a short sentence, most people do hardSPL before flashing Rom.
for what? of course to avoid device brick.
related to your experience, that's only a lucky shot but not in a safely manner.
muhrizky said:
i think this question is already answered on previous post above.
but in a short sentence, most people do hardSPL before flashing Rom.
for what? of course to avoid device brick.
related to your experience, that's only a lucky shot but not in a safely manner.
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yes i know i dont follow the instruction... since SEUS didn't remind me to hard spl it before i can upgrade my phone.... im also think that im lucky that my phone doesn't brick with my manner's on how to upgrade it first then hard spl it...
dari jakarta ya om ??? hehehe asoy nih bisa berbagi pengalaman dengan x1 kita...
Hard SPL questions
After i do a hard SPL, and install a wm 6.5 rom build 23060
say i dont like the ROM, can i always flash back to original 6.1?
or will the hard SPL I made on my xperia prevent that?
you can always go back to the origninal rom, you just simply have to find the rom. itl be available on here or ppcgeeks somewhere.
there is also a tool to UN Hard spl. you mainly use it if you need to send yoru phoen back to your carrier for replacement.
effect of Hard-SPL
Does installing Hard-SPL erase everything on the phone?
I'm trying to get myself to the point of not being terrified to try this.
I know the forums aren't for psychotherapy, but after spending $300 on a device, I do NOT want to render it unusable....help?!?!
Hi,
since the wiki page doesn't work, can someone explain what "hardspl" is?
Please.
Thank you.
Why should I do it?
What benefits can I get from "hard spl" ing my Tilt 2 (ATT) Rhodium 300?
I've run crud scraper and free'd up some space, ok. It doesn't run faster..?
I'd like to know what's the purpose of "hard spl".
Sorry if I sound ignorant, but I'm just that. IGNORANT of why, not stupid.
LOL
ps.........I hate the freeking ATT background images.
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if I can use the 6.1 ROMs on my Kaiser or am I limited to 6.0 ROMs?
I tried to download the Windows Mobile 6.1 upgrade from HTC but when I enter my Serial No. it says its unsuitable for my phone.
I bought it on ebay and its full of rubbish and seems heavily tampered and has lots of querky things going on - so I thought I would just flash it with one of your ROMs. I don't want to 'brick' it if 6.1 is incompatible. I have spent days reading the (astoundingly detailed) FAQ's but, maybe 'cos I'm dumb and don't understand the difference between ROM and OS, I'm worried I will trash the phone if HTC say its incompatible.
I'm rambling now because what I don't really know is whether A ROM includes OS or sits on top of OS.
Regards,
JN
You can, of course, use 6.1 roms on your kaiser. I suggest you just go to the kaiser section, read a bit, and find yourself a nice ROM.. the kaiser section is flooded with ROMs.. and good ones
Thanks for replying. I found several posts today from people who have trouble with screen touch alignment and wondered if there was a hardware incompatibility with some Kaiser's and WM 6.1. Also, I found the answer to my question about ROMs and OS in Q1 of the Kaiser ROM Flashing FAQ which I had already read but obviously not taken in.
I shall give one a try then.
Many thanks,
I'd suggest giving a few.. until you get it right
LOL
Ok then. What are the chances of totalling the phone? Mind You, I've got to the point where if I junk it I won't care too much. So I shall just have some fun.
Thanks for the reassurance and advice.
You should be able to hard reset if everything fails...which should save you in the worst case situation... I beleive though from reading up on it if you unlock your phone with HARDSPL it is supposed to stop you from being able to brick your phone
First of all, try try a few roms without spling more than once, find the hardspl guide for kaiser in the kaiser forum and hardspl it so you can flash as many roms as you like.
afterwards, just start flashing roms. bricking a device isn't that common if you do things properly. make sure all roms you flash are meant for kaiser..
Thanks again for the help and advice, which I have followed - I've applied HARDSPL as recommended. I've only had a chance to apply one ROM so far (AtheneOS WWE) which looks fantastic IMHO but I have what seems like a radio problem as I have no sound. So I shall have a go now at different radios I suppose? That's what most of the replies to posts seem to suggest for lack of sound after flashing. Its easier than I thought this lark - I can see this may be habit forming though
Great stuff you guys .
JN
Another Happy (rom) Flasher!
lol. go ahead and enjoy flashing.
I bought my Htc Magic in Hong kong last August.
I paid for it more than $620 (usd) after I found that the seller tried to cheat me.
I root it and my last rom was MyHero 2.0.5 with Official SenceUI on HTC Kernel 2.6.27 and it allmost worked perfect in my languge.
After that on 17/11/09 when some guys here where "happy to annonce" about the official senes upgrade I did it and since then I'm stuck with a piece of ***** and I'm gonna loose my money after I lost some days of work and 4 sleepless nights.
I feel like somebody rapped me because I can't even downgrade to the rom version I hade when I bought my Htc Magic.
It makes me sad because if HTC wouldn't release us I don't know if I'll ever buy any machine from theme again.
see:
Power to the people - the boycott as a democratic action
I think you're being a bit extreme... I own the HTC Magic and I'd gladly buy another if I broke this one...
There are methods to downgrade your HTC Magic back to the MyHero ROM. I upgraded to the Official HTC image and downgraded back to CyanogenMod in the same night with no troubles at all. Have you even tried the goldcard method? Have you done any research and reading?
And besides, crap like this belongs in the General forum where nobody will read it anyway.
Sounds like you're over reacting completely.
Instead of complaining about something that may, or may not, be HTC's fault you could try explaining your problem properly and seeing if anyone can help you fix it.
JackMagic said:
Sounds like you're over reacting completely.
Instead of complaining about something that may, or may not, be HTC's fault you could try explaining your problem properly and seeing if anyone can help you fix it.
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It is HTC's fault, as they made it almost impossible for us to get rid of the perfect SPL, as they should listen to us! and let us to do what the.... we want with our phone!
The perfect SPL he is talking about is not breakable for now! nobodey can do anything about it not even GOOGLE!
XDA is here because of the leak of support from HTC from the first place , it always has been and will be HTC's fault when people here get stuck with this kind of ****!
I will start making a dialogue with htc on Tweeter later today , we should show what we want.
My proposal is ==> let thous who want, register their phone on HTC.com and loose their warranty for ever and then let them have a S-Off spl so they can do whatever they want with their phones.
avri1 said:
I bought my Htc Magic in Hong kong last August.
I paid for it more than $620 (usd) after I found that the seller tried to cheat me.
I root it and my last rom was MyHero 2.0.5 with Official SenceUI on HTC Kernel 2.6.27 and it allmost worked perfect in my languge.
After that on 17/11/09 when some guys here where "happy to annonce" about the official senes upgrade I did it and since then I'm stuck with a piece of ***** and I'm gonna loose my money after I lost some days of work and 4 sleepless nights.
I feel like somebody rapped me because I can't even downgrade to the rom version I hade when I bought my Htc Magic.
It makes me sad because if HTC wouldn't release us I don't know if I'll ever buy any machine from theme again.
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Power to the people - the boycott as a democratic action
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A: Its your fault its "broken"
B: What do you define as broken?
C: Can you fastboot it, ADB it.... anything??
D: post some info and we can maybe help you fix it.
E: Post in the proper place.
F: You can't boycott a product everyone loves, and even when the few break it, they buy a new one or have HTC warranty fix it (paid or not)
Z: Post some info, and we can maybe help you fix it.
J: Post some info, and we can maybe help you fix it.
P.S
I know this is going to come up, but please don't blame bad English on not being able to get/request help.. if you spent 6**(usd) on it, paying 10 usd to a friend to help you properly translate it, would be worth it IMHO.
It is NOT HTC's fault!
Can you imagine if they made it easy for every idiot on the street to install the wrong image on their phone and then send it back for warranty?
They use a 'perfected' SPL in order to protect their warranty department and their proprietary software and hardware. If you want a completely open platform then you shouldn't have bought an HTC phone.
Now really, if you don't want the perfected SPL, then DO SOME READING!!! There are instructions on this very forum on how to create a GoldCard that will allow you to flash an older HTC RUU that does not have the perfected SPL. I know because I tried the RUU that you're running on your phones and I'm now running CyanogenMod 4.2.5 with SPL 1.33.2010 and a custom recovery image.
Quit the *****ing, do some reading, and shut up already!
shwan_3 said:
It is HTC's fault, as they made it almost impossible for us to get rid of the perfect SPL, as they should listen to us! and let us to do what the.... we want with our phone!
The perfect SPL he is talking about is not breakable for now! nobodey can do anything about it not even GOOGLE!
XDA is here because of the lack of support from HTC from the first place , it always has been and will be HTC's fault when people here get stuck with this kind of ****!
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regardless of what you think, it is your fault, you made every decision to "HACK" the "known working" software and thus broke it.
I will start making a dialogue with htc on Twitter later today , we should show what we want.
My proposal is ==> let those who want, register their phone on HTC.com and loose their warranty for ever and then let them have a S-Off spl so they can do whatever they want with their phones.
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This will, be exactly what we (people with rooted, death spl bla bla bla) have. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that what ADP2 is for??
did you nandroid back up before you flashed the new rom? Why not just flash over the current rom that you have. Doesn't sound like your problem is that extreme. Can''t see why your having a problem. Any alteration of the OS that came with the phone would be your fault for changing that. But if you were smart enough to root and flash a custom rom, you should be able to get yourself out of this. Unless, someone did it for you. In that case. Hold them responsible. Good luck. I'm sure your not happy with this advice
shwan_3 said:
It is HTC's fault, as they made it almost impossible for us to get rid of the perfect SPL, as they should listen to us! and let us to do what the.... we want with our phone!
The perfect SPL he is talking about is not breakable for now! nobodey can do anything about it not even GOOGLE!
XDA is here because of the leak of support from HTC from the first place , it always has been and will be HTC's fault when people here get stuck with this kind of ****!
I will start making a dialogue with htc on Tweeter later today , we should show what we want.
My proposal is ==> let thous who want, register their phone on HTC.com and loose their warranty for ever and then let them have a S-Off spl so they can do whatever they want with their phones.
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shwan_3 said:
It is HTC's fault, as they made it almost impossible for us to get rid of the perfect SPL, as they should listen to us! and let us to do what the.... we want with our phone!
The perfect SPL he is talking about is not breakable for now! nobodey can do anything about it not even GOOGLE!
XDA is here because of the leak of support from HTC from the first place , it always has been and will be HTC's fault when people here get stuck with this kind of ****!
I will start making a dialogue with htc on Tweeter later today , we should show what we want.
My proposal is ==> let thous who want, register their phone on HTC.com and loose their warranty for ever and then let them have a S-Off spl so they can do whatever they want with their phones.
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Lol, angry opinionated poster FTW. Probably should have used an XDA dev's senseUI ROM instead then shouldn't he, as his previous ROM was working so well.
XDA is here to offer choice and because some people enjoy customising their devices - you then have the majority of HTC Magic users who wouldn't know what an SPL was if it hit them in the face, and are perfectly happy with their official sense ROM from HTC.
It's a matter of perspective, and yours and the OP's seem to be rather slanted. Have fun enlightening HTC about their wrong doing, but you're not making a very strong point here as you know the risks of flashing your phone - maybe he should have read up about perfect SPLs before he flashed his device.
Good luck
And if the OP would have waited a couple hours after seeing the Official update posted, he would have noticed that somebody very quickly deduced that the HTC update would install the 'Perfected' SPL.
You can't blame anyone else for your impatience and ignorance.
I Have the official HK sense rom 32A and I need help
It is NOT HTC's fault!
Can you imagine if they made it easy for every idiot on the street to install the wrong image on their phone and then send it back for warranty?
They use a 'perfected' SPL in order to protect their warranty department and their proprietary software and hardware. If you want a completely open platform then you shouldn't have bought an HTC phone.
Now really, if you don't want the perfected SPL, then DO SOME READING!!! There are instructions on this very forum on how to create a GoldCard that will allow you to flash an older HTC RUU that does not have the perfected SPL. I know because I tried the RUU that you're running on your phones and I'm now running CyanogenMod 4.2.5 with SPL 1.33.2010 and a custom recovery image.
Quit the *****ing, do some reading, and shut up already!
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sorry for my English.
i didn't breack the phone it works fine.
the problem is that I can't put my languge, as a lot of people here.
I spent all my time in reading and aearching s solution.
see as an exampale in the first post in this forum:
"right the SPL obviously doesnt like remote writing of the recovery, dont worry trying this wont **** up your device. i was trying to achieve what the oneclick root method does which basically just writes a recovery to the device to bypass the SPL but, it obviously wont allow remote flashing through ADB. il be back today to include the flashrec.apk within the rooting method unless i quickly devise a script to run off the device to flash the recovery ..... il be back
I apologise for this people i am on it. i just dont have a device with a perfected SPL to test it myself.
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So can any one HELP me?????????????????????????????
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With a perfect SPL, not really. That thread you "quoted" from is your best bet if the goldcard method doesn't work on this SPL. redmc said he would be working on it, so worth a shot if you're really that screwed.
Or maybe send Amon_ra a well written PM asking if he knows a solution using a goldcard.
Nice guy nice baby you behave as a baby (baby face)
How i can know all this that i canoot root is as the original rom.
Isn't it an "open code"
That made very little sense to me. redmc is working on a way of breaking perfect SPLs with his Relentless Rooter software - so wait and see.
Android is open source, but this isn't the OS you're having an issue with, it's the SPL.
Using goldcard
With a perfect SPL, not really. That thread you "quoted" from is your best bet if the goldcard method doesn't work on this SPL. redmc said he would be working on it, so worth a shot if you're really that screwed.
Or maybe send Amon_ra a well written PM asking if he knows a solution using a goldcard.
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THANK'S A LOT
I USED GOLDCARD AS DID OTHERS BUT IT DOESN'T WORK.
MAYBE I'LL WAIT TILL redmc OR Amon_ra CAN DO SOMETHING
BEST REGARDS
Lol, well considering you have no other options, that sounds like a good idea - and what I just suggested.
I'd say good luck, but I've got the feeling any amount of luck will be of no use to you whatsoever..
Does anyone appeal to Htc to let us install our Native Languge
Does anyone can appeal to Htc to let us al least to install our Native Languge
ways to root your phone
This should help you root your phone:
[How-To] Fix perfected SPL (fastboot remote: not allow)
Steps to Root Airtel HTC Magic and Mytouch 3G( for US users)
[email protected]: Rooting your HTC Magic (MyTouch not yet)
"Le problème se trouve toujours entre la chaise et le clavier." / The problem always lies between chair and keyboard.
Also valid for phones
Anyone here who flashes custom roms, but still tries the official HTC update is a complete idiot as far as i'm concerned as everyone here knows that HTC will most likely try to include a perfected SPL in their updates