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Hey all..
There is a similar thread started sometimes back asking for feedback on which 6.1 rom one is using and why! That post seems to have died prematurely. Now with Dutty's much awaited 6.1 rom is out I think this thread can benefit a lot.
As the title.. after reading the threads of the various 6.1 roms.. Dutty's, DKs, Alex's, Sleuths... etc. they are all having one or more bugs/issues... Please share YOUR views with which ROM is running most stable for you and what are the bugs/glitches you're still experiencing.
Recommended format: Phone version/carrier, ROM cook/version, Radio version... and which one tried and had more bugs than the one you have now. (usual format everyone uses anyways)
[Update: Feb 17, 08 (30 minutes into the post)]: PLEASE refrain from stating issues that are most commonly being experienced and discussed, the obvious ones like lack of sound/volume etc. which is most likely from having wrong/incompatible radio... now if the volume/sound issue persists even after you've flashed the right radio as per the cook.. then it should be shared here.
I've personally installed DCS V1.5 WM6.1 and reported numerous bugs, which seemed to be isolated to my Tilt only as Johan shared but ever since I'm very confused as to which one to get. Ofcourse, I can download one each day and see for myself which will work best, but unfortunately, I use this phone good 10 working hours a day, 6 days a week on the "field", using its various functions for productivity and only get time on Sundays and nights to play with it... therefore, I felt this thread will be a better approach and is sure to benefit a lot.. I hope.
At&t Tilt -
Dutty's DualTouch V4 currently.
Radio: 1.27.12.11
DCS v1.5 WM6.1 - very buggy (lag/top-bar vanishing in dialpad/freeze issues) - un-flashed.
Great Thread, Currently under dutty's 6.1 rom I have no sound, no speaker, when playing music, however, in call the speaker phone works correctly
TurtleTech said:
Great Thread, Currently under dutty's 6.1 rom I have no sound, no speaker, when playing music, however, in call the speaker phone works correctly
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Apparently, you didn't read the entire thread or even the first three posts. If you had used the search or read the dutty thread, you would know that you need a 6.1 radio to use Dutty's or Sleuth's 6.1 roms. The problem with no sound has also been asked at least 20 times in the dutty thread as well.
eagle 1 said:
Apparently, you didn't read the entire thread or even the first three posts. If you had used the search or read the dutty thread, you would know that you need a 6.1 radio to use Dutty's or Sleuth's 6.1 roms. The problem with no sound has also been asked at least 20 times in the dutty thread as well.
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I agree with eagle1.. I should've specified that lack of sound/volume related bugs should be first thoroughly searched and then shared as most likely they are due to incompatible radio..
Also, please try and post ONLY when you've tried troubleshooting the problem through either posting about it in the cook's original thread or have searched for it somewhere else and it still didn't get fixed.
I'm hoping that all of us only share WHATS STILL WRONG.. and not HOW TO FIX IT.. as this is meant to be more of a GUIDE!...
Go with Vega's ROM R1 build simple amazing. Fast stable and anything and more. IT is aka udk I think is the name he goes by on here.
I found the best to be Duttys ROM so far. I tried DCS 1.4 and it was pretty good.
I have to say I have liked all Duttys roms the best up until 6.1
I have tried all the 6.1 except duttys. I am using Sleuth.
FAST, STABLE and LOVIN IT. I have not tried Duttys yet cause I do not want to part with sleuths.
I will try when I have a bit of extra time. For now I am staying with Sleuth once you get past not having the htc home it is amazing.
I would recommend giving it a try.
I tried Dutty lastest 6.1 with radio 1.64.04 on HTC unbranded TyTN II ... few bugs with HTC Home plugin and notifications but terrible slowness and lags ... flashed back to original rom
sleuth 3.0 -
digression -
tried the official 1.62 and
Alex.v51.WM60.ATT.162.Home.ROM;
doesn't seem to be stable and missing quite a number of essentials.
I'm on Sleuth's v3.0 and it's fantastic. Fast, Smooth, and no problems what-so-ever. I'm VERY tempted to flash to Dutty''s 6.1, but i'm not confident enough yet.
Can anybody who's used both Sleuth's v3.0 wm6.1 AND Dutty's 6.1 please comment? It'd be much appreciated.
Cheers
I'm also using Sleuth, but I still have issues with GPS. Do you guys also have problems? But the ROM overall is VERY stable, love it!
Started off with DCS and ended up with Sleuth. So far it has been good. No problems with GPS. Make sure you're using 08.21 Radio, at least it gives good reception and also GPS works well with it.
Well I've tried Schap's 4.4o beta, UDK and now Dutty's. Schap's was the fastest but none of the available radios worked with my device. Dutty's 6.1 is going fine so far. There are a few things I'd like to change, The best and the fastest ROM has been SNE 2.5 for me. It's not WM 6.1 based though.
Sleuth is my pick from everyone elses that is out now. I've tried all of em and Sleuth is deffinately the fastest. I love it even though it is a little scarce on applications. But you can always download programs you need anyway.
+1 Sleuth 3.0
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I'm on Sleuth's v3.0 and it's fantastic. Fast, Smooth, and no problems what-so-ever. I'm VERY tempted to flash to Dutty''s 6.1, but i'm not confident enough yet.
Can anybody who's used both Sleuth's v3.0 wm6.1 AND Dutty's 6.1 please comment? It'd be much appreciated.
Cheers
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I have tried both Dutty's and Sleuth's. I found them both relatively equal in performance and stability. For me it came down to the apps I use (and don't use).
Dutty's is better is if you like it with lots of apps and utilities.
Sleuths' is better for me because I like to load my own stuff (mostly NOT the HTC stuff).
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I have tried both Dutty's and Sleuth's. I found them both relatively equal in performance and stability. For me it came down to the apps I use (and don't use).
Dutty's is better is if you like it with lots of apps and utilities.
Sleuths' is better for me because I like to load my own stuff (mostly NOT the HTC stuff).
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Thanks kwickone, I decided to go ahead and flash Dutty's, and as you said, it's equally impressive. The speed seems almost identical, but Dutty's really looks the part.
Nice UI, quick speeds, and I was impressed with the apps list too, as I use pretty much all of them. He definately chose well in what apps were included.
Time to change my signature
I have had the least amount of problems with Alex's 6.1 Beta 2 after changing the pagepool to 24 mb.
I haven't tried Sleuth's, only dutty's and L26.
Mods.. should this thread be made sticky?
..I recommend making this thread a sticky or better still as a link under maybe a thread to-be-started like "WM6.1 flashing 101"
Sleuth rocks
tried LC, tried DC, and dutty's in the past - but not the recent one. as an orange UK user sleuth v3 is the best for me.
nice work.
This thread needs a poll option added.
I'm on Slueths too, GPS, HTC HOME, all that stuff is working perfectly. Not as fleshed out as other roms. i.e. L26 includes the Action menu and a bunch of utilities such as quickmenu and various tweaking utilities that are not present in Slueths. But L26 also has a bunch of unnecessary files in the windows folder. In my test using standard explorer browsing the windows folder on L26 took 9 seconds, on Slueths it's less than 4.
They all bring something unique, so it's up the user but it's also been through enough tutorials that most people could make their own.
Cheerio
Howard
Every wm6.1 rom I flash, have the same result: lag! (I DO a hard reset after each new rom). Tried Dutty's, orginal HTC's, Alex, etc, etc.
Sometimes wm is running smoothly for a while, but most of the time the lag is terrible, sometimes the delay is even more then 5 seconds!
Anyone have the same experience (and more important: anyone who knows how to fix this)?
Very strange... I have not had any issues so far and I have flashed every WM 6.1 rom that has been posted thus far. What radio version are you running with the WM 6.1 builds?
Tried all tree radio's. Never had problems with sound, camera, gps, but every time 'the lag is back'.
Is it possible it has something to do with a combi of pagepool and cache-settings?
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Every wm6.1 rom I flash, have the same result: lag! (I DO a hard reset after each new rom). Tried Dutty's, orginal HTC's, Alex, etc, etc.
Sometimes wm is running smoothly for a while, but most of the time the lag is terrible, sometimes the delay is even more then 5 seconds!
Anyone have the same experience (and more important: anyone who knows how to fix this)?
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Try running Alex's 1.62 AT&T build. That thing is pretty freaking fast Got a great SPB benchmarking score of 436 according to my testing.
Is the 1.62 rom WM6.1?
Can I use an ATT Tilt rom on a non ATT phone (Dutch MDA Vario III Tmobile)? Never tried that, because of all the warnings about ATT and non ATT phones/radio's/etc.
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Is the 1.62 rom WM6.1?
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No it is not. But it does have a lot of updated drivers & Bluetooth fixes. Check the official post regarding this.
It was running very smoothly for me, even the non cooked one.
This ROM was actually released on HTC's website as an official update to the Tilts.
I agree, it is so laggy i went to Alex's 6.1 because he does great work but i did notice it was very slow and would lock up most of the time. i tried all the radio's same issue even tried just clearing out my phone thinking it was a program causing a conflict and same issue. i ended up going back to Alex's 6.0ROM and all is good in the hood once again
btw if you real this ALEX you rock
i hope that this is not some "FLUKE" bug that happens to a small amount of people and wont get reviewed by the higher powers as a issue.
aartjanm said:
Every wm6.1 rom I flash, have the same result: lag! (I DO a hard reset after each new rom). Tried Dutty's, orginal HTC's, Alex, etc, etc.
Sometimes wm is running smoothly for a while, but most of the time the lag is terrible, sometimes the delay is even more then 5 seconds!
Anyone have the same experience (and more important: anyone who knows how to fix this)?
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Lagging? Are you comparing that lag to original ATT roms or one of Dutty's/Sleuth/cooked roms? compared to dualtouch v4(dutty), ive found some lag as well, but not compared to ATT's, blazing compared to ATT...
If you've try many roms already? Can I ask are you using a task manager?
Tweaks; cooked roms are already tweak to better suit them.
I am using Dutty's 6.1 Official, and I love it to death. I had used his beta and it had a lot of bugs and was laggy so I had to revert back, however his new rom is gorgeous (THANKS DUTTY), it is very smooth and other than not being able to soft reset through the power switch, there is no lag and I am using radio 1.58.26.20
Oh its a tilt
I agree, I tried three 6.1 ROMs including the latest Dutty's ROM which I am currently on... and they all lag...
Also notice a problem when I go to the call logs screen and press the red endkey button to go to the home
thanks for this thread. I was considering flashing, but after this I'll stick to my stock rom till official upgrade. I am on wm6 t-mob uk and after tweaks I cannot see the reason to flash anything else anyway. the device is rock solid and snappy enough.
cheers
bro
stay out of the kitchen...
i dont know why a thread like this is created... utter nonsense if you ask me. ive only noticed all positive changes with wm6.1 with no lag... in fact... my video is exceptionally faster on the newer roms. especially sleuth or duttys. a lot of these chefs pour their heart into these meals... if you cant enjoy them... too bad, cause some of us love what they do and appreciate how much more awesome our devices are with each new build. keep up the good work guys... youre heading in the right direction... there is LESS lag... considerably
bronx said:
thanks for this thread. I was considering flashing, but after this I'll stick to my stock rom till official upgrade. I am on wm6 t-mob uk and after tweaks I cannot see the reason to flash anything else anyway. the device is rock solid and snappy enough.
cheers
bro
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I can not agree more. the stock rom I have, WWE Tytn II , equipped with tons and tons of cabs I found here is stable at 99.9 %. Though Dutties Rom gives an almost 1800 VSbenchmark and mine only 1392, I do not complain.
Videoclips lag, though I found out that theyd DO play better when using the "X" bottom before, stopping all open applications.
I am eager to flash, but only when a guaranteed stable and quick cooked 6.1 ROM will offer me further a fuzz-free environment.
EDIT 1: No, I have no lag what so ever.
EDIT 2: I owe a lot of respect for all chefs spending plenty of hours on their work (hobby?) helping this community. I just wait for the one who might have "the ultimate ROM" .Fair no?
(i am playing with the 3D.dll 's further on meawhile hehe)
Keyboard\Screen lag
I promise that lag will be gone if you flash mine
Commercial for myself but I fixed the screen\keyboard lag
My base is latest Vodafone 6.1 ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366014
Cheers,
Leo
Michaelr219 said:
i dont know why a thread like this is created... utter nonsense if you ask me. ive only noticed all positive changes with wm6.1 with no lag... in fact... my video is exceptionally faster on the newer roms. especially sleuth or duttys. a lot of these chefs pour their heart into these meals... if you cant enjoy them... too bad, cause some of us love what they do and appreciate how much more awesome our devices are with each new build. keep up the good work guys... youre heading in the right direction... there is LESS lag... considerably
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well, there is a reason why people are complaining: all WM6.1 ROMS (till now) are considerably slower than the recent cooked WM6.0 ROMS.
At least according to "objective" tests like SPB Benchmark and VS Benchmark the WM6.1 still can't catch up the WM6.0's..
So the feeling of lagginess (does this word exist?) is understandable.
But our cooks are working so only a matter of time???.
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Lagging? Are you comparing that lag to original ATT roms or one of Dutty's/Sleuth/cooked roms? compared to dualtouch v4(dutty), ive found some lag as well, but not compared to ATT's, blazing compared to ATT...
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Compared to wm6 roms. They are really fast, but all wm6.1 roms I tried aren't....
Michaelr219 said:
i dont know why a thread like this is created... utter nonsense if you ask me. ive only noticed all positive changes with wm6.1 with no lag... in fact... my video is exceptionally faster on the newer roms. especially sleuth or duttys. a lot of these chefs pour their heart into these meals... if you cant enjoy them... too bad, cause some of us love what they do and appreciate how much more awesome our devices are with each new build. keep up the good work guys... youre heading in the right direction... there is LESS lag... considerably
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Maybe utter nonsense for your device, so be happy with THAT in stead of putting words in somebodies mouth.... On my device there IS lag... and I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK OF ALL THE CHEFS! Threads like this have the intension of helping people with problems with upgrading.
Having said that.... all others: thanx for the advice sofar. Any suggestions on pagepool & cache settings fixing the lagproblem on some devices are welcome And for all the chefs I'm gonna use the positive words of Michaelr219: keep up the good work!!!
hello again.
sorry if it's going to be an offtop, but after reading Your posts some things have crossed my mind.
back in the days when I was quite happy owner of vario II (wm 5 out of the box) exciting thing have happened. when I was browsing through these forums I've spotted a wm6 rom for my device. that was something. just like jumping from w95 to xp on pc. almost everything seemed to be different. I was using black flavour (best regards jasjamming wherever You are now Mate) with various versions. flashing addiction was quite understandable then, as we were improving our devices A LOT.
now with vario III I am wondering why people are trying hard to fix things that are not broken? I am not bashing anyone's work, I have a lot of love for all the so called cooks for their free contribution, but I don't understand what is this fuss all about.
as I read more and more I learn, that 6.1 is not that great at all. ppl are asking how to switch off threaded sms, pie is still unusable(ish) and now the info that roms are slower than 6.
so can please guy who said to stay out explain to me what's so good with those 6.1 that I cannot have with 6? I am not flaming or whatever, maybe I just lost something while diggin' through all those threads.
I also said, that imo it's not a bad idea to hold on for offcial roms given official way, as they are tend to be more solid and complete.
just my five cents
br
bro
Have been away for 4 weeks and I do not understand it anymore.
Wm6.1 is out, but no official HTC release, but several roms out here?
Can anybody explain?
The cooked ROMs here utilize a leaked version of 6.1. Thus 6.1 is not truly official yet.
so what is the best rom at the moment?
There isn's a best rom. different roms provide different things and you have to try them out to see what best suits your needs. Im using duttys 6.1 WWE and i love it, but you might not.
A7LAS said:
There isn's a best rom. different roms provide different things and you have to try them out to see what best suits your needs. Im using duttys 6.1 WWE and i love it, but you might not.
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ive tried all wm6.1 roms around here (htc wwe edition) and i must say they all have big flaws (igo not working, phone getting stuck at one point, SoD behaviour, reset not working other than by stylus), some of them have workarounds, some not. If you want to stay on the safe side, choose a wm6 rom, one that suits you. if not, come join the boat and try each and every one of them until you find what you like. but trust me, you wont, the search will be neverending... its all about the sport...
for me, dutty roms were all unusable due to different errors i got. no disrespect for him or his work, most people love his roms and i use his cabs from his collection (thanks a lot for gathering that). so u have to just try them on...
Hi all,
Having tried most of the recent ROMS and radios on this forum and have to give massive credit to the ingenuity and skill of the Chefs on here that there is so much choice available. However, I consistently had an issue with GPS fixes.The best initial fix time after a reset, or if I'd not used GPS for a few days, was about 1 minute outside in bright sunshine with no clouds. For cloudy weather this could go up to over 10 minutes. If I tried getting a fix inside at my desk which is next to the window, sometimes I would give up waiting as it just never got a fix (I realise that ordinarily you would not need GPS indoors, but it makes testing on a cold, wet day in the UK a lot easier...)
I tried pretty much everything in various GPS threads, using GPS Test, Quick GPS, disablng A-GPS etc and nothing consistently helped. I could not believe that the Kaiser was so much worse than my old Artemis.
One thread mentioned several folks downgrading to WM6 rather than 6.1 as they claimed this was better. I tried this and hey presto, I now get a cold fix in about 30 secs max, on a good day it can be 10-15 secs. At the same desk above, I get a fix in about 30 secs too. Not only that, my device in use seems to feel faster and things like screen rotate on opening the keyboard seem more so (this is subjective, not measured it).
This made me wonder what the advantages of WM6.1 actually are. From searching around, the list of things that apparently differ are :
Threaded SMS
Speed Increases
PIE Zoom Out
Task Manager
Office One Note
Of these, there are alternatives to most of them :
Threaded SMS use PocketCM,
PIE Zoom use Opera,
Task Manager - many alternatives,
One Note use TouchNotes and
Speed increase - I'm not convinced of in daily use.
However, all the chefs on this forum have moved over to 6.1 so I'm wondering that either the majority of people do not have GPS issues like I do or, as is exceptionally likely, there are other reasons that I do not know for preferring 6.1.
Any chefs out there fancy commenting on why you prefer 6.1 over 6.0 to save me from my ignorance?
Cheers,
Jez.
Same here
I have experienced the same mate. I have tried God knows how many 6.1s and besides, they are looking great and neat (thanks to our brilliant chefs here), i didn't see any improvement on my tilt, just opposite. I have experienced annoying non responsive display, very slow response time, and there was a time when I had to press display several times before I was able to run anything on the phone... let alone the GPS.
Now, I have an original HTC WM 6.0 Pro/ ROM 1.56.405.5/ Radio 1.27.12.11 and I have to say that my Tilt has never been faster and more stabile. Moreover, GPS signal is much better and even works when I put kaiser near the window. It is cloudy and rainy here in Bosnia now, yet it took only 15sec before it received signal.
So, I have to say that this one works better for me.
Lately I too have had more issues that I wish to have. Just seems there is no perfect, or even close mix of ROM/Software that is good enough to be a daily use type. Not sure if the chefs are just over-doing or we just have a bad mix of software at this time. I do hope the chefs continue to work on a better ROM, I do know they try hard and should be commended for their efforts, but right now I may move back to an older version that just worked better. Maybe 6.0, but not quite sure yet.
This is nothing new..many have reverted back to 6.0. But for what its worth, I never have to wait longer than 45 seconds in the U.S. using the emo radio inside my car rain or shine.
After receiving a warranty replacement for my Kaiser, I'm now using the stock T-mobile UK rom, and it's far better than any WM6.1 cooked rom + radio that I've tried when it comes to GPS.
However, the battery life is probably not quite as good. The unit is just as fast as with any of the cooked roms I've tried.
I can't really think of any tangible benefits from using cooked roms, as this stock WM6 rom works well, and I can add any functionality I need by installing the right programs.
I use PointUI, so I would not benefit from the significant improvements to the WM gui that the cooks have produced.
However, I enjoy trying out new roms and seeing what the cooks come up with, so I may still do it anyway, just for the fun of it!
you are absolutely right and now i am going to downgrade to 6.0
GPS is nice to have on my phone but if I truly needed GPS I would have bought a truly more reliable (read: GPS Specific) device.
If I need directions I can still use Google Maps to plot the turns, on my own - like in the old days. *snicker*
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Now, I have an original HTC WM 6.0 Pro/ ROM 1.56.405.5/ Radio 1.27.12.11
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BTW: What version of HardSPL are you using?
Ok, Someone has a chance to explain why this thread should be left in ROM Dev and not moved to Kaiser General.
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Ok, Someone has a chance to explain why this thread should be left in ROM Dev and not moved to Kaiser General.
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Sorry, duh, I guess we aren't talking about the development of ROMS, eh?
why
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Ok, Someone has a chance to explain why this thread should be left in ROM Dev and not moved to Kaiser General.
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... perhaps because it considers WM6.1 ROM development in the context of the WM6 platform for the Kaiser.
@tabashir --> Threaded SMS use PocketCM. I would be interested in a free replacement to the WM6.1 threaded SMS but http://www.pocketcm.com/index.php does not contain any details of this. Can you throw some light on this. Thx
[Edit - OK found threaded SMS using pocket CM thanks - will check it out thanks]
Thanks for the replies all. Although no answers on why to prefer 6.1, at least I know I'm not completely insane in going back to WM6!
Have not gone the whole hog and gone to a stock ROM tho, have been having fun trying out some of the different cooked ones, albeit old as they are now. Am currently on Blackwood which with Radio 1.27.14.09 and SPL 3.29.
Like TasoM, have not had any freezes or non-responsiveness with WM6 so far which I guess is what the forum is all about, try them all and find what suits your circumstances. I do find the battery life 'seems' worse than when I was on 6.1 and the Emo radio.
Reply to convert > glad you found the threaded SMS. Lots of nice skins for it too. I don't use it personally as I find iContact faster and better for just contacts and I don't need threaded sms.
Reply to JimmyMcGee > The original question was aimed at the Chefs creating the WM6.1 Roms so I figured it better in the Development thread. However, I really don't mind if you move it to where you think it is more appropriate.
Now I gotta go play with PointUI, was not aware of that one before!
How's the video playback and game/ui performance on the stock 6.0?
a major one everyone is forgetting is the dev of the 3D drivers and soon(tm) 2D drivers that is a major reason a lot of people including me have moved on, another one is that when some major changes come in 6.1 i will not have major issues with upgrading my apps mms/sms etc... to the new ROM and not have to worry about radio's and hardspl as i would be already running it..
besides you guys forget, your running windows... i always reboot my phone and a good reason is because i change batteries so every 1-3days it will be rebooted, it mixes most of the small issues.
As far as GPS its always been the same, i havent ever bothered with GPS to be there for me, its just to aid me, i do use google maps which helps i never have used GPS to tell me were to drive i think that is insane, nor will i ever do it, i like to know exactly were to go and what my options are
tabashir said:
Hi all,
Having tried most of the recent ROMS and radios on this forum and have to give massive credit to the ingenuity and skill of the Chefs on here that there is so much choice available. However, I consistently had an issue with GPS fixes.The best initial fix time after a reset, or if I'd not used GPS for a few days, was about 1 minute outside in bright sunshine with no clouds. For cloudy weather this could go up to over 10 minutes. If I tried getting a fix inside at my desk which is next to the window, sometimes I would give up waiting as it just never got a fix (I realise that ordinarily you would not need GPS indoors, but it makes testing on a cold, wet day in the UK a lot easier...)
I tried pretty much everything in various GPS threads, using GPS Test, Quick GPS, disablng A-GPS etc and nothing consistently helped. I could not believe that the Kaiser was so much worse than my old Artemis.
One thread mentioned several folks downgrading to WM6 rather than 6.1 as they claimed this was better. I tried this and hey presto, I now get a cold fix in about 30 secs max, on a good day it can be 10-15 secs. At the same desk above, I get a fix in about 30 secs too. Not only that, my device in use seems to feel faster and things like screen rotate on opening the keyboard seem more so (this is subjective, not measured it).
This made me wonder what the advantages of WM6.1 actually are. From searching around, the list of things that apparently differ are :
Threaded SMS
Speed Increases
PIE Zoom Out
Task Manager
Office One Note
Of these, there are alternatives to most of them :
Threaded SMS use PocketCM,
PIE Zoom use Opera,
Task Manager - many alternatives,
One Note use TouchNotes and
Speed increase - I'm not convinced of in daily use.
However, all the chefs on this forum have moved over to 6.1 so I'm wondering that either the majority of people do not have GPS issues like I do or, as is exceptionally likely, there are other reasons that I do not know for preferring 6.1.
Any chefs out there fancy commenting on why you prefer 6.1 over 6.0 to save me from my ignorance?
Cheers,
Jez.
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Try the newer rom(s) with manilla 2D (hyperdragon III is currently the only one publicly available). Newer is better.
I too switched to 6.0
tabashir said:
Thanks for the replies all. Although no answers on why to prefer 6.1, at least I know I'm not completely insane in going back to WM6!
Have not gone the whole hog and gone to a stock ROM tho, have been having fun trying out some of the different cooked ones, albeit old as they are now. Am currently on Blackwood which with Radio 1.27.14.09 and SPL 3.29.
Like TasoM, have not had any freezes or non-responsiveness with WM6 so far which I guess is what the forum is all about, try them all and find what suits your circumstances. I do find the battery life 'seems' worse than when I was on 6.1 and the Emo radio.
Reply to convert > glad you found the threaded SMS. Lots of nice skins for it too. I don't use it personally as I find iContact faster and better for just contacts and I don't need threaded sms.
Reply to JimmyMcGee > The original question was aimed at the Chefs creating the WM6.1 Roms so I figured it better in the Development thread. However, I really don't mind if you move it to where you think it is more appropriate.
Now I gotta go play with PointUI, was not aware of that one before!
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I too switched to WM 6.0 and I think that I am much happier than with Dutty's ROM. Do not get me wrong, there was a lot of nice things in it. But I have a feeling that I would rather prefer stock HTC ROM and add some useful software. I have not tried stock HTC ROM in 6.1. I am curious if GPS works teh same as in 6.0 ROM?
To be honest, 6.0 is much stable and less problematic so far compare to 6.1.
Most of the 6.1 problems (e.g. cleartype landscape) have some workaround solutions. But problem like the famous Activesync 86000107 still doesn't have any solution yet.
For me, the only advantage of 6.1 is much faster startup time, and overall system performance.
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a major one everyone is forgetting is the dev of the 3D drivers and soon(tm) 2D drivers that is a major reason a lot of people including me have moved on
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The 2D drivers could be a real benefit, but there's no advantage for me or most people having the 3D drivers installed at the moment.
I'll probably give Hyperdragon with TouchFlo 2D a go, but I would not be suprised if I end up sticking pointUI on it and have the exact same functionality and aesthetics as the stock rom. I hope I'm wrong!
kolibrik said:
I too switched to WM 6.0 and I think that I am much happier than with Dutty's ROM. Do not get me wrong, there was a lot of nice things in it. But I have a feeling that I would rather prefer stock HTC ROM and add some useful software. I have not tried stock HTC ROM in 6.1. I am curious if GPS works teh same as in 6.0 ROM?
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I am done with problem 86000107, I want to go back to WM 6.0, Where did you find the official WM 6.0 ROM World wide English, and did you need to install a HardSPL or not ????
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Now we're talking little bout religion here, LoL.
There was times at beginning of WM6.1 issuance that with so many problems came with it i sometimes convert back to stock HTC WM6, or Schaps 4.30 (most good looking and well done cooked WM6 i tried). I remember it was only before July i keep converting back. Yett most of the time i did it only to get the feeling of what's right before and try to 'port' (find solution) the great feelings to the newer WM6.1.
Nowadays, WM6.1 already much familiarized by the chefs here and gained much tweaks. On a proper hand, it does make big difference in performance. My Kaiser is now running full fledged without any issues, it even have landscape cleartype enabled now for my liking (yet i don't do threaded sms). Faster, more stable, less power hungry, quicker gps fix, more instant screen rotation, than before.
Wow, what happened? It's because the wonder of this community, that's why. AFAIK, i have used several PDA and the conclusion is still the same: left to itself, Microsoft's (MS) product does sux big time. Without this community it will dragging its own feet to its graveyard. I think HTC at least a bit better than MS in adapting to market's demand (i truly belief many HTC engineers are member of this forum, much more than MS's). Cuz I saw some pattern in behaviour here.
Bottomline, WM6.1 is indeed much more problematic than WM6. Yet WM6 was also much more problematic than WM5, or 2003SE!
That's the way MS works, man, everytime they issue newer OS they try to include more functionalities, features, etc, while at the same time introducing more bugs than before. For example, who use windows vista here, care to share your experience with it? Cuz I don't. I even use winXP only after SP2 issued.
Never trust Micro$oft product! Just trust the power of users and communities who expanding it! Now my religion is not WM6.1, but rather, XDA-Devs. So in case next time XDA-Devs decided they have enough with WM,then i may join the convert to Android. Amen.
Hallo all
I am updating a friend's Raphael tonight.
Which Radio and ROM do you all suggest?
She is with AT&T (so the FUZE) and she is a bare bones kinda gal. Not into the bells and whistles. But she does want a better performing phone.
Thx for any and all of your info!!
legend0fthefall said:
Hallo all
I am updating a friend's Raphael tonight.
Which Radio and ROM do you all suggest?
She is with AT&T (so the FUZE) and she is a bare bones kinda gal. Not into the bells and whistles. But she does want a better performing phone.
Thx for any and all of your info!!
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Every radio seems to be different for everyone.
I, personally, like the Blackstone radios the best because they seem to give me better call quality than any other radio I've used, and I'm in an Edge only area.
LOTS of people seemed to like the 1.12 leaked AT&T radio, and quite a few people are using the official AT&T update 1.14 radio.
As far as a ROM, try to show her both TF3D and Titanium. Some people like WM6.5 (I'm one of them), while others hate it and prefer WM6.1.
Da_G has a bare-bones version of both. If you do the WM6.1 version, you'll have to install ALL of the HTC cabs yourself if you want TouchFlo and TF3D (Manila).
If you want WM6.5, I've been running RRE v6.3 and its very fast and stable. EnergyROM is also a good series, both 6.5 and 6.1.
So there's a lot of variables you need to figure out before you pick one to flash.
EDIT: Also, after flashing a ROM, remember to hard reset when you get to the "tap the screen..." prompt, this will help eliminate weird bugs that may popup.
I have very little experience with flashed roms and radios so far, so i won't comment on the radio, but for the rom, it sounds from whate everyone is suggesting for newbies go for the EnergyRom 2.0 WWE FINAL rom
use the Da_G basic roms then. just search around a bit.
don't use energyRom for this... they're made to be fast and tend to be slightly unstable.. if you're not a power user, it doesn't do you any good.