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Ringer delay causing lots of missed calls.

My phone has a very noticeable delay on incoming calls. I'll see it light up and flash for a bit, take a few seconds to get caller ID, then it will finally ring once before going to voicemail. All the while the caller is hearing the phone ring but I'm not...I tested it. Since I don't stare at my phone all day I have a high volume of missed calls because many times I only get the last ring. Any ideas what's going on? I tinkered with settings in Advanced Config and DiamondTweak. No dice. I'm using the stock Fuze Rom.

Isn't this normal behavior?
I've set my Kaiser on GSM mode and I can hear calls coming in on my computer's speakers a full 2-3 seconds before the phone actually rings.

diar said:
My phone has a very noticeable delay on incoming calls. I'll see it light up and flash for a bit, take a few seconds to get caller ID, then it will finally ring once before going to voicemail. All the while the caller is hearing the phone ring but I'm not...I tested it. Since I don't stare at my phone all day I have a high volume of missed calls because many times I only get the last ring. Any ideas what's going on? I tinkered with settings in Advanced Config and DiamondTweak. No dice. I'm using the stock Fuze Rom.
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I have the same problem (htc org. rom)

Maybe this will work
I noticed that when someone calls my phone, they get two rings before my ringtone turns on.
After a second, my Fuze's LED starts flashing, then my ringtone starts playing after another second.
I have an idea:
1. Go into "Start > Settings > Phone"
2. Go to the "Services" tab
3. Highlight "Call forwarding" and then click the "Get Settings..." button.
4. Change the "Forward after:" dropdown box to something higher (e.g. "30 seconds")
It won't help the ring delay, but I think this will give you a little more time before the call is sent to your voicemail. I haven't tried it, but let me know if that helps

NuShrike said:
Isn't this normal behavior?
I've set my Kaiser on GSM mode and I can hear calls coming in on my computer's speakers a full 2-3 seconds before the phone actually rings.
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I wouldn't call this normal. This is the first mobile phone that I've had that has had delays that long. If I didn't keep my phone next to me for most of the day, I'd probably miss more of my calls as well.

adamantypants said:
I wouldn't call this normal. This is the first mobile phone that I've had that has had delays that long. If I didn't keep my phone next to me for most of the day, I'd probably miss more of my calls as well.
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I agree with you, this lag is very big problem, I missed a lot of calls, most of people must call me again because they are forwarding to voicemail at first time before I find TP (I cannot change in forwarding to 30 sec.
I'm wondering how it is in Diamond.

This is very frustrating. Nothing seems to fix this problem. I've reduced the call ID match to five digits instead of eight. I've made sure that Ring Time is set to "without delay" in DiamondTweak. I'll try the idea to change the call forwarding time but this seems to be a major problem in the OS itself. With this issue, Voice Command problems, the GPS lag and other issues I might have to jump to another phone.
Do cooked ROMS have these same issues?

I've got the same issue.. using T.I.R. V8R ROM, so yes, this delay is present also on custom ROMS. It has to do with the dialer skin?

This was discussed in a thread on an app that causes the vibrate pattern to match the ring pattern in hacks & discussions (I think called VAlert). The vibrate pattern starts immediately and the ring is delayed so the app isn't perfect (unless you build a delay into the vibrate but that's separate). The solution seems to be an app from tweaks2k2.net that I hear removes the delay. This is an issue with all WM phones. I haven't tried tweaks2k2 but I hear it works.

the tweaks2k2 fix - to eliminate the 3 second ringer delay - didn't work for me. so i went into the network phone settings and set the call forwarding to 25 seconds (it was 10). that didn't fix the ringer delay but now at least my phone rings three or four times before going to voicemail. i guess that will have to do for now.

diar said:
the tweaks2k2 fix - to eliminate the 3 second ringer delay - didn't work for me. so i went into the network phone settings and set the call forwarding to 25 seconds (it was 10). that didn't fix the ringer delay but now at least my phone rings three or four times before going to voicemail. i guess that will have to do for now.
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it don't work sorry

Doing some debugging, on the Fuze at least the ringer delay seems to be tied to the bloatedness of the dialer.. it has a whole bunch of imports so its loading alot of stuff up every time you get an incoming call.. I'm afraid the only solution for this will be a dialer that does not bring in those kind of dependancies (PTT, Video Share, G-Sensor, etc)
The fastest way to go would be using the default windows dialer, but you'd lose all that functionality.. but hey. It would ring instantly!
I'll look into stripping the dialer from my clean ROM and providing a cab..

Confirmed. Removed the AT&T dialer skin from my rom and called my phone, rang as fast as any other phone would.. So the dialer skin is indeed the culprit.

Dang AT&T. Dang them and all their bloatware.
I'm going to corporate store to complaint. To all of them within a 10 mile radios.

I've posted my Beta 1.5 with the dialer removed. It's not an official fix by AT&T, but it is a fix..
I'll see if I can whip up a .cab to stop the dialer from loading in the stock AT&T ROM, that should help there too.

i like this dialer...but not that much. how do i disable it? in advanced config, i saw an option to enable the phone dialer skin or the default windows mobile dialer. would switching to the default fix it without causing any other problems?
EDIT: switched to default dialer and that fixed it. it also seems to have fixed the problem of having to re-enter the data connection password after a soft reset.

This set of cab's should do the job for anyone who doesn't want to install Advanced Config (it's a single registry entry HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin - Enabled=0/1)

Wow it really is about two seconds before the phone rings. Hm I never missed a call yet on this phone. where do you keep your phone that it takes so long to answer it?

AT&T's network lets you set the number of seconds before the call rolls over to voicemail, as do others, I believe the default on AT&T is 20 seconds, with a minimum of 5 and a maximum of 30, so if someone has it set to 5, that leaves only 3 seconds..
Of course they could just set it higher, but that's a different issue

So then a simple fix would be to go into your voicemail and set it to 22 seconds and then you still have the same time to pick up that phone. But still how does the 2 second dely really make you miss all them calls?

Get the phone out of the case + Answering a call = Impossible?

Does this happen to any one or is it just me?
I have an ordinary case for my Touch Pro. Almost 10 out of 10 times when the phone rings and I reach out to my phone, try to take it out - boom - the call becomes a missed call. I guess what is happening here is that once the phone rings, the screen is active and either your finger accidentally touches the volume key or any other key or even the screen, it makes it a missed call. It is very annoying and how to avoid this????
Thanks

kmahesh said:
Does this happen to any one or is it just me?
I have an ordinary case for my Touch Pro. Almost 10 out of 10 times when the phone rings and I reach out to my phone, try to take it out - boom - the call becomes a missed call. I guess what is happening here is that once the phone rings, the screen is active and either your finger accidentally touches the volume key or any other key or even the screen, it makes it a missed call. It is very annoying and how to avoid this????
Thanks
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there is a key disabler cab look for it

There are many options how to disable the touchscreen.
There was a topic not long ago about this.
Answerkey Disabler
PocketShield (I currently use this one)
TouchProLock
Sensorlock
Throttlelock
S2U2 (not recommended for TP, drains the battery for unknown reason)
All these deal with locking the TP.
Sorry for not posting links but I don't have much time. All of them are available on XDA though.

You do have the option of extending the time it takes for a call to go to voice mail, it can be extended up to 30 seconds. The option is under settings > phone > Services > Call Forwarding
There is also a lot of lag on between the time the caller's phone is ringing and you get a ring on the Fuze

I guess this is not because of the keys. Just keep the phone in front of you and try to call your phone and see your self, first you will see the incoming call indicator light, and after some time you will start hearing the ring tone. Now by the time you take the phone from the case - it's a miss call. I tried to search all over XDA but didn't find a way to start ringing immediately when call comes, I read some where that this is due to the dialer skin and by using default WM dialer this can be fixed. I didn't try this.

kmahesh said:
Does this happen to any one or is it just me?
I guess what is happening here is that once the phone rings, the screen is active and either your finger accidentally touches the volume key or any other key or even the screen, it makes it a missed call.
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I think he was talking about the touchscreen being active on incoming calls.
If however the problem is in the delay, then the dialer skin is the key.
You have to change it to the WM default (it does work, the lag is almost gone) and have the ringtone in WAV format (not tested, I didn't bother to put any wavs).

if you get rid of the dialer and switch to WM
you will lose functionality including the symbol to show bluetooth being on or off

I downloaded and installed disableanswerkeys and it works fine. It took a while for me to understand the cryptic question it asks in the beginning - i get stumped if there are two negatives in a sentence So It is on and i tried and it works ok. I also downloaded sensorlock and throttlelock. Yet to try these ... will post my comments.
the lag in answering the call - i believe there is a separate thread about that, right?
Thanks for the help

lbhocky19 said:
if you get rid of the dialer and switch to WM
you will lose functionality including the symbol to show bluetooth being on or off
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LOL, that's what happened to my bluetooth......thanks

Any Call Blocking apps that actually dont let the phone ring?

I have tried several and all let the phone ring before identifying and blocking the caller, has no one found a hook to get in before the ringing starts and hold of a ring until the caller is identified?
Thanks

Have you tryed Magicall?
http://www.mobiion.com/magicall.html

jacare said:
Have you tryed Magicall?
http://www.mobiion.com/magicall.html
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Nope will contact them next. I have tried all the free apps out there and even registred one that I didnt find a demo for until its too late. All of the let the phone right for about 5 seconds, not exactly what I consider "call blocking". I contacted the one I purchased and here was their response.
Hello Richard,
SmartBlock uses two different ways to block incoming calls and SMS - one is
running at very low level of the system, so calls and SMS are blocked
unnoticeably as soon as they are received; while another runs at a higher
level that the phone may produce the first ring before a call or SMS is
rejected - in this later case the call may also be forwarded to the voice
mail, or produce the disconnect tone.
The program automatically chooses the one that works on your phone (low
level first then the higher one), the one that works is very much depending
on the OS on your phone, and there isn’t much we can do about it I'm
afraid.
Hope this explains the issue!
Best regards,
Bicheng Liu
Efficasoft Support
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I have to say Magicall works! Not a peep or vibration from my phone on a blocked call coming in. Thanks for the tip!

Does Magicall work on 6.5? I have been using Call SMS Blocker but if I am on a call when the blocked call comes in it kills the radio and puts the current call on hold. If I can quickly get back to the call status screen I can take the call off of hold if not it disconnects.

rsacipher said:
Does Magicall work on 6.5? I have been using Call SMS Blocker but if I am on a call when the blocked call comes in it kills the radio and puts the current call on hold. If I can quickly get back to the call status screen I can take the call off of hold if not it disconnects.
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For me my rule doesnt fire when I am on a call, but you should try the demo and find out for yourself. I am very happy with magicall.

Yep, the two best ones are made by the same company:
Root Call Blocker (for general use):
https://market.android.com/details?id=fahrbot.apps.rootcallblocker.beta
Call Master (for advanced users):
https://market.android.com/details?id=fahrbot.apps.blacklist
These are the only blockers that completely block everything without turning the screen on. Need to be rooted though.

I have used Root call Blocker(Rooted user only) and its the only app where the calling party does not get to hear "User busy" which might give an impression that you intentionally disconnected the call. On the receiving end the phone will never ring.

ftgg99 said:
Call Master (for advanced users):
https://market.android.com/details?id=fahrbot.apps.blacklist
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+1 for call master, after a couple of duds, this one was good for me. not too advanced.

"SPC" or "private SMS & call" has a blacklist feature that will block calls and texts from numbers you put in to it.

Been thinking about one of these myself. Hmmmm
Can anyone say "Crazy ex-girlfriend"?

ftgg99 said:
These are the only blockers that completely block everything without turning the screen on. Need to be rooted though.
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Hmm I use afirewall https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lianyun.afirewall.inapp nowdays (this question is a couple years old). It works quite well, it also requires root. It also does not turn on the screen when performing a block.

Whare can I download Magicall.. Because your link doesn't work. Plz tell me.

[Q] Lost Incoming Call default settings - now Phone rings - but cant answer.

ok this is a weird problem
my own fault
phone is the OnePlus one obviously.
have been having ongoing small problem with the dialer, as i use DW dialer.
sometimes when i went to make an outgoing call the stock dialer would also load and i would have to push the call button twice.
small problem but annoying.
so i went into the settings>apps>phone
and cleared the phone setting >launch by default.
this has fixed the outgoing calls problem
however now when i have incoming calls it doesnt bring up the window to let me answer them. the phone kind of hangs while the incoming call is ringing.
i can get back to the home screen. but there is no way to answer the call.
so i need a way to reassign the incoming calls to the phone.
i dont get any notification on the phone itself. just the ringing phone.
there is no way at all to answer the call - cant swipe down.
the only thing i can do is wait for the call to end. then see who is in my missed calls and ring them back.
please help
cheers

suttosnax said:
ok this is a weird problem
my own fault
phone is the OnePlus one obviously.
have been having ongoing small problem with the dialer, as i use DW dialer.
sometimes when i went to make an outgoing call the stock dialer would also load and i would have to push the call button twice.
small problem but annoying.
so i went into the settings>apps>phone
and cleared the phone setting >launch by default.
this has fixed the outgoing calls problem
however now when i have incoming calls it doesnt bring up the window to let me answer them. the phone kind of hangs while the incoming call is ringing.
i can get back to the home screen. but there is no way to answer the call.
so i need a way to reassign the incoming calls to the phone.
i dont get any notification on the phone itself. just the ringing phone.
there is no way at all to answer the call - cant swipe down.
the only thing i can do is wait for the call to end. then see who is in my missed calls and ring them back.
please help
cheers
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I've been having this problem for a few days now. Phone rings but no UI for me to answer the phone call. Any solution to this yet? Thanks.

U have to tell which ROM u r using. There should be some option in settings for accidental phone wake up (Something like that), you have to disable that. Search in the settings.

I have updated to 5.1.1 but problem is its not showing the name when incoming call....only showing first letter of the name how can we find who is calling

I've just solved this problem on my phone - I'd blocked notifications from Dialler:
Settings --> App Notifications --> Dialler --> Deselect Block

Man!! This is a lifesaver. How come this solution is not available elsewhere. Thanks a lot!!!!

Call Screening Duration to Mark as Spam

When I'm screening a call and the caller hangs up, I only have a split second to hit the red button to report it as spam. Does anyone know how to extend the length of time for that button to stay on the screen? I'm assuming that when you hit that button it reports it to Google to gather data, but will log-pressing on a caller in the history and selecting Block/report spam provide the exact same results?

It doesn't happen every time but a few calls have triggered a notification that has a block and report as SPAM button for me. Not sure what causes that to trigger but it isn't happening consistently.
I've used the call screen a few times but the intro text is too long and the calls nearly always end immediately after the bot is finished talking. Neat feature but I think it would actually be more useful for answering calls when you can't talk like in a meeting at work or on a loud bus/train or something.

fury683 said:
I've used the call screen a few times but the intro text is too long and the calls nearly always end immediately after the bot is finished talking. Neat feature but I think it would actually be more useful for answering calls when you can't talk like in a meeting at work or on a loud bus/train or something.
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I usually only use it when the caller ID shows up as "spam likely" and every time, they hang up before the bot finishes. It brings me joy, but I haven't needed to mark as spam because of it.
I did try it a couple times with real callers (a doctor's office and a customer service person), and they both started to identify themselves, allowing me to connect to the call before they hung up. It's GREAT!

Pressing the button only sends a message to the caller to remove you from their list. I'd definitely report/block after the call
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