Hard reset =/= restoring all the system files? - General Topics

I am using Touch HD (BlackStone), I installed one of the hot fix from HTC and it seems causing my phone lock up with the ICR program. I did hard reset and reinstall the ICR and it still crashing all the time. I spended 2 days playing around with countless hard reset and the problem was still there. Finally I flashed my ROM and the problem seem gone now. Seems like the hot fix replaced some of the system files and the hard reset didn't restored them.
I just wondering what exactly hard reset does? Does it just delete the extra files and settings installed by users without restoring all the system files?

a hard reset restore all files of your phone (delete all contacts, messages, settings, programs....) to original parameters.
It's like a "fomat c:" for a computer !

So when I flash the ROM image into the phone, it will put it in a protected area in the flash ROM and hard reset will copy all the files from there to another portion of the flash ROM and execute from there?

when you flash a rom, it erase (or replace, it's the same) the 'older' rom !
a hard reset just delete all files ! if you hard reset your phone, it will be like you buy it, when you power on your phone at the first time !
there is no multi-partitions, one and only one OS can be flash, install and run at the same time !
I hope it's clear, and I answer your question, because my english is very bad....

Hey, if you try format c: ,you get rid of ALL datas on your disk, including OS !! So, it´s not like hard-reset Hard-reseting deletes all user-made data, but it doesn´t do anything with ROM/firmware files, so if you changed them, you can get them back only by reinstalling OS ;-)

vitavirgl said:
Hey, if you try format c: ,you get rid of ALL datas on your disk, including OS !! So, it´s not like hard-reset Hard-reseting deletes all user-made data, but it doesn´t do anything with ROM/firmware files, so if you changed them, you can get them back only by reinstalling OS ;-)
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Ah that explain why hard reset didn't fix my problems but re-flash the same ROM into phone did.
So there is a list of files in ROM to tell the hard reset program which are needed to keep?
thanks

sorry, it's to hard for me to explain what I think in english

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Messaging doesn't work anymore

I have a fairly new Touch Cruise and today messaging doesn't work anymore. I can't send any sms, email or mms - I can't even access the messaging section. I also can't recieve sms.
What can I do?
Soft reset, and if it doesn't work... Hard Reset....
Soft reset doesn't work . . . and I would rather not hard reset - hate to loose all my data. Isn't there any other way to solve the problem?
weblance said:
Soft reset doesn't work . . . and I would rather not hard reset - hate to loose all my data. Isn't there any other way to solve the problem?
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Nope, Full back-up and hard reset!
weblance said:
Soft reset doesn't work . . . and I would rather not hard reset - hate to loose all my data. Isn't there any other way to solve the problem?
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There's nothing on your PDA that can't be backed up/copied/restored in minutes...
It appears that part of the Windows Mobile operating system has some how corrupted, could of been a crash or just pot bad luck, from past experience I would reccomend that you download a program called PimBackup, it is completely free and this will allow you to make a backup of all the data on your phone including Text Messages, emails etc on to your microSD card. After that perform a hard reset, reinstall PimBackup and restor your data file.
Good luck.
i have had the same problem on my old tytn with his original WM5 .
I tried install tomtom5 and after that messaging was not working anymore , tryng start 'message' freeze the device , corrupted wm5 files i thought.
No lucky with hard reset .
I solved first using a thirdy part messaging software (try search on internet ) and then , when it was available , flashing WM6 . The new os with his necessary files solved completely the problem. If this is your case ( corrupted os files ) you can consider to flash a new WM6.1 or an original shipped rom to your device in order to restore al files.

[Q] accidentally deleted files

sorry for my question but wanted to know if anyone can help, 7 days ago bought a acer stream, I made the root and then exploring delete files by mistake apk system, of course, many things do not work now. If anyone can help they would appreciate a lot. Thanks.
You're pretty much out of luck. If you deleted the files 7 days ago, they are likely un-recoverable. If they are on the sd card, and less than a day or so, you have a chance to recover them using GetDataBack.
Your best bet is to do a factory reset to get all the files back.
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remove them from the system and are apk files, there is no method to revive my acer?, it means that I throw it, only serves, I can not load a new rom?
juanreboiras said:
remove them from the system and are apk files, there is no method to revive my acer?, it means that I throw it, only serves, I can not load a new rom?
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grab this dump and extract the files you need and put them back where they belong
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691464
thanks
these are the files I needed but when I try to run with the browser gets me close to applied force and will not let me run it. There is some solution to this?
Factory reset the phone. If you cant do it via settings, try recovery menu.
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I tried to start from the menu, I did restart buttons and no screen goes black and does not reset to factory settings with some other idea?

Hardware Reset nightmare

My tab developed problems and all got worse after I tried to update the Contacts.apk from a thread. I backed-up the original files and restored them but still nothing worked. I decided to do a full hardware reset but things only got dramatically worse.
Now the tab is basicall destroyed. I get crashes one after the next, cant use the phone, cant open contacts, all crashes again again.
Doesnt a full hardware reset recover all all stock apps in its place or not? I have no idea what to do at this point anymore
It seems whatever system files that were damaged are still there and worse... dont understand the mechanics of this... I thought a hardware reset meant THAT. But it just "looks" like all my custom apps and confirations were reset to original but all problems with system files are there and even worse than before. Have no clue what to do
I also tried with the system off the method of pressing and holding the “Volume Up” and “Power” buttons at the same time, then after recovery screen appears navigate and select “wipe data / Factory reset” and pressing the “Home” button, but after that and the system re-starts, same thing! All bad.
Can someone please help me? How can I restore all files and everything back into the Tab as originally shipped? OMG, what a nightmare....
Thanks in advance.
Once you mess with files in the root folders they are damaged for good. A master reset does wipe everything but it does not have some magical copy of all system files stashed away to overwrite, this is why the phones are rooted, to keep you from messing with these files. Your best bet would be to just flash the device and start from scratch. You could also just extract the contacts.apk from an appropriate rom and possibly copy it over from your sd to the unit using ADB.
Sorry, like he said, you will have to rebuild. But think of it as an opportunity to try a few new things.
Do you have a backup made by CWM3 when you installed your latest rom? You can restore it if you can get into recovery.

Easy way to keep one's personal data when flasing a new ROM

Most of the time when one flashes a new ROM one has to do a data wipe (factory reset), and it erases all one's personal files like movies, music, pictures etc, quite annoying to say the least.
I found a way to avoid this, and it's pretty simple:
1-in CWM go to mount,
2-mount both data and system,
3-format them both.
This will perform the factory reset without erasing our precious files (the installed apks will be gone though, but no biggie if you backed up them with Titanium).
Then you can wipe cache + dalvik and flash your new ROM.
I used this method to go from ICS to CM 10.1, from CM 10.1 to Paranoid Android, and finally back to ICS, without loosing a single kb of my files.
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I have a p6210, no idea whether it works on other models or not. I guess it does but who knows...
Give it a try if you feel like it, but don't forget to make a back up before in case it goes wrong.
After flashing, your files won't be in the mnt/sdcard anymore but in a newly created folder in mnt/sdcard/0, or, depending the rom you are using, in storage/sdcard/0.
Or, some roms may create a file called legacy and stock everything there, or sometimes your files may be stocked before the sdcard folder, search for either /0 or /legacy.
Use a root browser and have a look, your files are still in your device (have a look as well at your storage in general settings, it will show how many gbs are in your tab).
Once you have found your files all what you have to do is to move them back where they belong, ie the /sdcard folder, it takes 10 seconds.
unclefab said:
Most of the time when one flashes a new ROM one has to do a data wipe (factory reset), and it erases all one's personal files like music, pictures etc, quite annoying to say the least.
I found a way to avoid this, and it's pretty simple:
1-in CWM go to mount,
2-mount both data and system,
3-format them both.
This will perform the factory reset without erasing our precious files.
Then you can wipe cache + dalvik and flash your new ROM.
I used this method to go from ICS to CM 10.1, from CM 10.1 to Paranoid Android, and finally back to ICS, without loosing a single kb of my files.
Give it a try if you feel like it...
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Not cool man.Fu** lah.I lost everything.Around 7 GB of files.Fu** lah.I have no backup.I thought it would work.I was going from cm10.1 to cm10.What am I going to do?
Re: Easy way to keep one's personal data after flasing a new ROM
ALWAYS create a backup before erasing/flashing ANYTHING!! It's always as a precaution, to avoid losing something that you don't want to. And it only takes like 5 seconds literally. I lost some stuff when I unlocked the bootloader on my nexus10 by factory resetting, and I must say I didn't have a smile on my face. But it happened, u live n learn. I'm afraid if u wiped without making a nandroid backup your probably out of luck. Unless your skilled in using forensics techniques to try to recover it. Can't think of any options tho.
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Balaram12 said:
Not cool man.Fu** lah.I lost everything.Around 7 GB of files.Fu** lah.I have no backup.I thought it would work.I was going from cm10.1 to cm10.What am I going to do?
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What did you do?
Did you follow the exact procedure?
I flashed again some roms today and it worked again.
But one thing is that the files are not in the mnt/sdcard anymore but in a newly created folder in mnt/sdcard/0, or, depending the rom you are using, in storage/sdcard/0.
Or, some roms may create a file called legacy and stock everything there, or sometimes your files may be stocked before the sdcard folder, search for either /0 or /legacy.
Use a root browser and have a look, your files are still in your device (have a look as well at your storage in general settings, it will show how many gbs are in your tab).
Once you have found your files all what you have to do is to move them back where they belong, ie the /sdcard folder, it takes 10 seconds.
This said, meishkov is right, one should allways have a back up in case anything goes wrong, I should have mentioned it in the OP but I forgot, my bad...
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OP edited.
Oh well, noone tried?
Would be nice to hear some reports...
Balaram, it would be fair from you to detail a bit what happened and to tell if you found back your files.
Anyway, this method worked for me and I thought that it might have interested some people here, roms flashers and devs alike, but if that s not the case then no worries.
If someone feels that I should erase the whole thread just tell me and I ll do it...

[Q] phone doesn't start after deleting two files from system partition

Hi,
I have an MTK6582 quad core phone.
In another forum, I have taken an advice from a poster, which later proved to be the worst thing I could do..
I have deleted two files from \system\etc folder, namely:
agold_cheat_evaluating_software.xml and
changeram.xml
Due to these two files fake system info was reported (there was another advice to edit these files, but I was too lazy, and the poster told that he had been deleted them, and then the system could boot thereafter with the correct system info. I believed it..)
Anyway, I have deleted them, and since then I cannot start my phone, it stops at welcome screen.
I could log into Android recovery mode, I have made a factory reset, but the problem still persists, and I'm going mad. How could I be so idiot...
Does anyone have any idea how to start my phone? "Fortunately" I have these two files on my computer, I saved them before deletion. Maybe it helps..
Thank you in advance.
BTW it's an M-pai 809t
reinstall the stock ROM of your phone!!

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