Hi!
I know this is a question is on the edge of what this forum and web-site is about, but let me explain my problem and see if anyone have any tips
I work with PDAs of all types, and the problem is not related to brand, if it is Windows Mobile 5 or 6 (Modem Link vs Internet Sharing, even tested Modem Link on a WM6 device since I get pre-samples) or tele-operator.
At home I haven't got Internet via ADSL/Broadband - I have to use a PDA as modem to surf on the internet. I have one hotmail-account and one Yahoo-account. When I try to login, it seems to login - shows contacts briefly - loads the icons in the MSN application (MSN Windows Live Messenger 8.1) - and the disconnects - starts to reconnect, and the same happens again.
I use Activesync 4.5, but have used 4.2 which I "trust" (if that is possible) more. Have disabled "Allow USB Connections". I just thought of using USB Killer to force serial communication - I will get back to the result of this..
I have installed AVG Anti-virus (free personal edition), Spyware Doctor and SpyBot. Tried to disable these and make changes to internal Windows Firewall. Without success..
At work my PC is connected to internet via ADSL and everything works, well okay. Sometimes MSN freezes, but no login problems. I have a theory about it has something to do with the IP the PDA gets from the tele-network, but tried the APN for public IP-address..no success.
Have anyone experienced problems like me when using PDA as modem ? As I use MSN for my job I would be very happy to get tips!
a bit confusing "At work my PC is connected to internet via ADSL and everything works, well okay. "
is this pda related? are you saying that your normal pc with a normal network is ok with msn?
or are you connecting your pda to that pc as well
are you using activesync to try to get your pda to connect to your pc at homes network or other other way around?
your phone isp can block all ports they want which could result in msn issues of cause then it would be both on the pda and the pc
Knocksock said:
Hi!
I know this is a question is on the edge of what this forum and web-site is about, but let me explain my problem and see if anyone have any tips
I work with PDAs of all types, and the problem is not related to brand, if it is Windows Mobile 5 or 6 (Modem Link vs Internet Sharing, even tested Modem Link on a WM6 device since I get pre-samples) or tele-operator.
At home I haven't got Internet via ADSL/Broadband - I have to use a PDA as modem to surf on the internet. I have one hotmail-account and one Yahoo-account. When I try to login, it seems to login - shows contacts briefly - loads the icons in the MSN application (MSN Windows Live Messenger 8.1) - and the disconnects - starts to reconnect, and the same happens again.
I use Activesync 4.5, but have used 4.2 which I "trust" (if that is possible) more. Have disabled "Allow USB Connections". I just thought of using USB Killer to force serial communication - I will get back to the result of this..
I have installed AVG Anti-virus (free personal edition), Spyware Doctor and SpyBot. Tried to disable these and make changes to internal Windows Firewall. Without success..
At work my PC is connected to internet via ADSL and everything works, well okay. Sometimes MSN freezes, but no login problems. I have a theory about it has something to do with the IP the PDA gets from the tele-network, but tried the APN for public IP-address..no success.
Have anyone experienced problems like me when using PDA as modem ? As I use MSN for my job I would be very happy to get tips!
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when you try to use internet sharing on your ppc at home, are you able to browse web sites/read mail on the home pc ?
I am using a laptop at work, which I bring with me back home.
At work I connect to internet via ADSL, not using PDA there. MSN have no (not login problems) problems at work.
At home I usually disable "Allow USB Connections" in Activesync, connect PDA to laptop via USB cable, wait a bit - then use Internet Sharing to connect via the GPRS connection I have configured on the PDA.
It works just fine to surf, send e-mails, etc. But, when I start MSN on laptop - it starts the handshake-process, it seems to login - loads the sidebar icons in MSN and "the connection is lost" (msn) - I can still surf on the internet. MSN keeps reconnecting.. login..closes the connection. etc. at the end..after minutes or many hours it will log me in.
I will try some brand new devices tonight as modem. By the way, switching from RNDIS communication to Serial - between laptop and PDA didn't help.
Any help appreciated!
Small update..
Yesterday I tried a brand new unknown unofficial WM6 device as modem. Configured GPRS, used Internet Sharing and it logged on to msn without any trouble. I will test it more before I come to any conclution if this just was one-time-luck or..
Hi Guys,
I am running active sync 4.5 on my works pc and I want to connect my wm6 device to it whilst I am at work. However, my device checks my gmail and this is blocked via my works network, so i want my device to stay connected to gprs and use that instead of try to use my pc connection.
Is there a setting in Active sync to tell it to use its one connection to the internet instead?
I have set that this PC is connected to the Work network and that has not made any difference.
What else can I try?
Thanks
Doh, I reread the option underneath and the 'allow wireless connection whilst device is connected' sorts this out!
Ok tell a lie.
The GPRS now stays connected but the device isnt using it to connect to the internet. It still tries to use the pass through.
Anyway around this? I assume i need to adjust my connection settings to do with 'work' and the 't-mobile internet' connections.
first off - i tried searching but could not find any solid info, from start to finish, how to make tethering work
i've never had to tether till now.. tried enabling Internet Sharing and connecting it both via USB and Bluetooth - no success.. i'm using Media Net $15 a month data plan, if that makes a difference (wap Vs gprs in user name but i did try both)...
is anyone using their phone as a modem? what settings do you have? please point the noob in the direction of a step-by-step guide if one is available (i did try to search but nothing than enabling Network connection via registry edit - not relevant)..
thanks a bunch to anyone who could help!
I'm online using the "internet sharing" connection now (in Florida cleaning up after a flood) (Yes, I need to get back to work . . . .).
I also have a Fuze and am using EnergyROM 2.0. Haven't changed any settings since installing the new ROM. Works like a charm for me.
Make sure the proxy box under the MediaNet settings is NOT checked.
vovan75 said:
first off - i tried searching but could not find any solid info, from start to finish, how to make tethering work
i've never had to tether till now.. tried enabling Internet Sharing and connecting it both via USB and Bluetooth - no success.. i'm using Media Net $15 a month data plan, if that makes a difference (wap Vs gprs in user name but i did try both)...
is anyone using their phone as a modem? what settings do you have? please point the noob in the direction of a step-by-step guide if one is available (i did try to search but nothing than enabling Network connection via registry edit - not relevant)..
thanks a bunch to anyone who could help!
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Open up taskmanager and make sure that activesync is not running on the phone. this will not allow internet sharing to work. what does the phone say when you open internet sharing and click connect?
download a registry editor (i use total commander, and it works just fine).
open it up, go to \plugins\registry\HKLM\Comm\InternetSharing\Settings\ForceCellConnection and simply delete the contents of the value so that it's empty. Go ahead and do a soft reset and open up the internet sharing app. From there, select the Media Net connection and hit connect. Voila, good to go!
Enjoy!
ps I've gotten 2+ Mbps speeds via tethering
Dane Austin said:
Open up taskmanager and make sure that activesync is not running on the phone. this will not allow internet sharing to work. what does the phone say when you open internet sharing and click connect?
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I keep activesync enabled so that i'm able to receive corporate email when on the road.
I was able to tether via USB (was doing nothing different from last night when i was unable to internet share via USB, however I noticed when shutting down that BT stack crashed); internet sharing app came up automatically once I selected internet sharing right after hooking up the cable to my laptop, and MediaNet was there by default (I guess it's all cooked into the ROM; did not have to delete any registry keys; kudos to NRGZ)... was able to get close to 1Mb/s download speed (upload is really slow however, less than 50Kb/s) - not too bad overall
Still have problem connecting via Bluetooth
maybe i'm having problem pairing laptop and Fuze? is there a pre-defined code/pass key that i'm supposed to use for the Fuze?
i was just using my security/lock code.. when laptop starts dialing (is dial up number *99# correct?), i get the following error box:
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Error Connecting to BluetoothConnection
Dialing *99#...
Error 678: The remote computer did not respond. For further assistance, click More Info or search Help and Support Center for this error number.
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Anybody had this issue? or can share their connection settings for Bluetooth?
thanks everyone who responded!
vovan75 said:
I keep activesync enabled so that i'm able to receive corporate email when on the road.
I was able to tether via USB (was doing nothing different from last night when i was unable to internet share via USB, however I noticed when shutting down that BT stack crashed); internet sharing app came up automatically once I selected internet sharing right after hooking up the cable to my laptop, and MediaNet was there by default (I guess it's all cooked into the ROM; did not have to delete any registry keys; kudos to NRGZ)... was able to get close to 1Mb/s download speed (upload is really slow however, less than 50Kb/s) - not too bad overall
Still have problem connecting via Bluetooth
maybe i'm having problem pairing laptop and Fuze? is there a pre-defined code/pass key that i'm supposed to use for the Fuze?
i was just using my security/lock code.. when laptop starts dialing (is dial up number *99# correct?), i get the following error box:
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Error Connecting to BluetoothConnection
Dialing *99#...
Error 678: The remote computer did not respond. For further assistance, click More Info or search Help and Support Center for this error number.
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Anybody had this issue? or can share their connection settings for Bluetooth?
thanks everyone who responded!
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now, i just tried leaving User Name and Password fields blank on the Bluetooth connection wizard, and using dial-up number *99***1#, like they suggest here: Answer Center - Create a Windows XP Dial-Up Networking Connection for a Bluetooth Device , and got a new error:
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Error Connecting to BluetoothConnection
Dialing *99***1#...
Error 777: The connection attempt failed because the modem (or other connecting device) on the remote computer is out of order.
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this is just getting funnier but kind of frustrating...
nhshah7 said:
download a registry editor (i use total commander, and it works just fine).
open it up, go to \plugins\registry\HKLM\Comm\InternetSharing\Settings\ForceCellConnection and simply delete the contents of the value so that it's empty. Go ahead and do a soft reset and open up the internet sharing app. From there, select the Media Net connection and hit connect. Voila, good to go!
Enjoy!
ps I've gotten 2+ Mbps speeds via tethering
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tis fixed my tethering issue... thank you!
Damn AT&T trying to force people to pay more for tethering... shame!
smittyofdhs said:
tis fixed my tethering issue... thank you!
Damn AT&T trying to force people to pay more for tethering... shame!
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smitty, do you tether via bluetooth or usb? i have no problem with usb now but still get the same "error 678: the remote computer did not respond..." i wonder if my BT driver is corrupt or i'm blacklisted by at&t
if anyone is able to connect using bluetooth and Internet Sharing app on Energy or any other similar ROM, can you share your dial-up settings with me?
after i start Internet Sharing app, with PC Connection = Bluetooth PAN and Network Connection = MEdia Net, and then right click my Bluetooth Modem in Dial-up Network Places on my laptop, the icon shows "connecting" for about 5 seconds (and the data icon H on the phone starts rotating) and then the error comes up on computer screen.. i can't believe no one else has had the same issue, i must be something with my laptop
vovan75 said:
smitty, do you tether via bluetooth or usb? i have no problem with usb now but still get the same "error 678: the remote computer did not respond..." i wonder if my BT driver is corrupt or i'm blacklisted by at&t
if anyone is able to connect using bluetooth and Internet Sharing app on Energy or any other similar ROM, can you share your dial-up settings with me?
after i start Internet Sharing app, with PC Connection = Bluetooth PAN and Network Connection = MEdia Net, and then right click my Bluetooth Modem in Dial-up Network Places on my laptop, the icon shows "connecting" for about 5 seconds (and the data icon H on the phone starts rotating) and then the error comes up on computer screen.. i can't believe no one else has had the same issue, i must be something with my laptop
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I haven't been able to get my HP laptop to pair via bluetooth with my Fuze yet so I was doing USB. With regards to your issue, do you ahve one or two pull down menus in INternet Sharing app? If you have 1, then your registry needs to be hacked. AT&T used a registry key to force Internet Sharing app to only use the isp.cingluar access point (instead of wap.cingluar). If you pay the extra bucks for the full unlimited with tehtering then your account is setup to use isp.cingluar as well as wap.cingluar. If you just have the normal unlimited w/o tehtering option (which is not unlimited it caps at 5GB/month) then you only can use wap.cingluar. THis is how AT&T is going more easily find people using the cheaper plan with thethering and of course charge them up the butt for violation of the TOS (that they keep changing). Removing the registry key, fixes the issue.
smittyofdhs said:
I haven't been able to get my HP laptop to pair via bluetooth with my Fuze yet so I was doing USB. With regards to your issue, do you ahve one or two pull down menus in INternet Sharing app? If you have 1, then your registry needs to be hacked. AT&T used a registry key to force Internet Sharing app to only use the isp.cingluar access point (instead of wap.cingluar). If you pay the extra bucks for the full unlimited with tehtering then your account is setup to use isp.cingluar as well as wap.cingluar. If you just have the normal unlimited w/o tehtering option (which is not unlimited it caps at 5GB/month) then you only can use wap.cingluar. THis is how AT&T is going more easily find people using the cheaper plan with thethering and of course charge them up the butt for violation of the TOS (that they keep changing). Removing the registry key, fixes the issue.
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sounds like we are in the same boat here - i can tether my HP laptop with Fuze via USB no problem now using Internet Sharing app, but no luck with Bluetooth whatsoever... i don't think there is an issue with the registry ever since i switched to Energy 2.0 ROM which must have the settings customized (so yes, I do have 2 pull down menus, and I have Media Net selected in the second one). So, I tried to use both wap.cingular and isp.cingular APN's (both [email protected] and [email protected] for User Name, CINGULAR1 for password; then I tried leaving User Name and Password fields blank...) with no success... nothing works, damn it!!!
looks like it gets paired up briefly, then starts dialing and gets the error in a couple of seconds.. the problem must be with the bluetooth dial-up settings for AT&T, because: 1) i have no problem tethering via USB; 2) Fuze is being paired up with my laptop and trying to use HSPDA data connection (as indicated by rotating H on the phone for a few seconds while my laptop tries to dial up).
by the way, have you tried dialing *99# or *99***1# (i tried both numbers as well as *99***3# for Samsung phones) from your Fuze, did you get any modem dial tone??
thanks!
I was able to connect to internet through bluetooth by using the following settings.
After pairing the bluetooth on both Fuze and laptop:
On my Fuze: open 'Internet Sharing' then select Bluetooth PAN and choose the appropriate network connection (in my case TZones) then tap 'Connect'
On the laptop: open bluetooth neighborhood then 'discover service' or 'explore' on the Fuze device. You should see 'Network Access Point on [Fuze]' and then double click on it.
Done.
ICS on AT&T HTC Fuze Cut Off (NRG Rom Series 2.0)
AUTiger83 said:
I'm online using the "internet sharing" connection now (in Florida cleaning up after a flood) (Yes, I need to get back to work . . . .).
I also have a Fuze and am using EnergyROM 2.0. Haven't changed any settings since installing the new ROM. Works like a charm for me.
Make sure the proxy box under the MediaNet settings is NOT checked.
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I've been using ICS with no problems with a ThinkPad T43 for a few weeks at work to circumvent the proxies and reach out to my home machine via RDP. The RDP app for the Fuze just doesn't cut it with its whopping 640x480 screen. Turns out that AT&T in NY/NJ is somehow monitoring the connections. I was watching a bunch of videos to pass some downtime, and I guess I triggered some kind of alert on their end. ICS will connect to MediaNET with no problems (settings read wap.cingular), ICS status shows connected (I am connecting over USB) and my ThinkPad network connection shows a private IP address handed to it by the phone (192.168.0.x range). However when I am trying to connect to something, I'll get timeout errors. Running a simple ping comes back with no DNS capabilities as I can't even ping google.com... Has this happened to anyone on the forum? Can anyone offer some advice? I am thinking of just calling AT&T and playing dumb, saying that I was watching videos, as well as moving lots of music from my home computer via FTP ... Any advice appreciated. I pay for the $40/month PDA plan... I don't see the point of paying for tethering when you're already paying for data. Yes, before people start flaming me, I was stupid by using the connection to watch a bunch of videos, but you're able to watch youtube on your phone anyway....
--UPDATED 7-31-09 3:03PM --
So I downloaded ICS Control v0.21, which by the way is an awesome program. I went through the config, was able to connect my laptop to my HTC Fuze via WiFi. That was easy. As palringo (win xp version) was connecting in the background, I was able to do a test google search and get back results. Ran a continuous ping on google (ping google.com -t). Turns out that after about 25 ping replies or so, just about the time it took me to do a few web searches, the requests start timing out. Directing the ping at another website shows that the ping request couldn't find the host... basically the same problem I had tethering over USB. It's as if the AT&T network is determining that the request is coming from a PC and not the PDA and not passing the DNS requests... Either way, I tried to ping google via 74.125.45.100 and got back a request timed out. I am now wondering whether or not this may have to do with the packet MTU and whether or not the PDA packets differ from regular PC/WinXP packets. I just don't know enough about networking to be able to know. I am able to ping the Fuze gateway (for all-intensive purposes set to 192.168.2.1) and get back replies within 2-4ms. I really would love to hear from someone to whom this has happened before. I haven't called AT&T yet as the data connection on the phone itself works just fine, and I am able to load pages on the phone just fine. It's just any form of ICS that's beat...
Come on XDA-Dev, I know the collective intelligence can come up with something here.
I didn't think ATT could detect the difference between tethered requests and ones that originate on the phone, that would be bad though, if that were the case. Since the previous poster was watching videos, it seems to me the bandwidth would be the comparable to watching videos with the YouTube app on the Fuze, which I'm sure is within the terms of service contract.
My experience is closer to vovan75's. ICS works fine via USB, but does not work via Bluetooth. The strange thing is with the BT connection, I can ping the gateway, and even do nslookup with the default DNS, and sometimes if I get lucky, the connection works for a few seconds, allowing a page to load, totally random.
I thought everything worked using the original ATT rom, so I have a feeling culprit is something in the NRG rom, or maybe a radio incompatibility. I might re-flash to the old official rom just to try this, before the next time I update to the latest NRG build.
My setup:
Fuze with EnergyROM (July 22 build)
Radio: 1.14.25.35 (from official HTC 6.1 update)
Notebook with Windows 7 RTM
Windows calls this "Bluetooth Network Connection" (I don't see a reference to DUN, at least not in Win7)
ICS using BT (not working):
IPv4: 169.254.46.56
Gateway: 169.254.247.172
ICS using USB (working):
IPv4: 192.168.0.102
Gateway: 192.168.0.1
Windows 7 calls this "Remote NDIS based Internet Sharing Device"
DSLReport speed test (Flash) - down: 696Kbs, up: 336Kbs (varies quite a bit, much better at night of course)
Okay, figured it out. The DHCP setting for the bluetooth PAN should be off (I know, counter-intuitive). I found this by diff'ing the entire HKLM-Comm registry branch of the last EnergyROM build (Sept 6) vs the official ATT 6.1 rom (5.11.502.2WWE), which did work after all.
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\BTPAN1\Parms\TcpIp]
"EnableDHCP"=dword:00000000
BTW, you don't need to setup Dial-Up Networking when using the Internet Sharing application (IntShrUI.exe). DUN needs to be configured on the PC when using the phone's modem bluetooth service, and AFAIK, needs to be provisioned by AT&T before it will work. The Internet Sharing app acts like an uplink for paired devices in the bluetooth personal area network (PAN).
rasterX, you rock! That little illogical registry fix is all I needed... I'd been banging my head against this Bluetooth DUN thing for days.
Thanks!
Hi, Guys.
I'm pulling my hair out trying to stop my WM6.1 blackstone (Touch HD) from attempting to connect to the data connection when I do something network related on the phone. Because It's already connected to wifi.
I'm connected to wifi, and can browse the web, use messenger etc.. But if I attempt something like entering a network path like \\NETDISK\share into the file explorer, it says "Cannot connect etc..." and it's trying to connect via the HSDPA connection, which can't access my local network anyway. It needs to use the wifi...
Is there any way to stop it trying to connect? In the connection settings, I've deleted all modem connections, leaving just the wifi connectivity. If I try to add wifi as a modem, the option is not there...
I'm really lost with this. Please offer any advice you can. I'm close to twisting it in half..
i-CONICA said:
Hi, Guys.
I'm pulling my hair out trying to stop my WM6.1 blackstone (Touch HD) from attempting to connect to the data connection when I do something network related on the phone. Because It's already connected to wifi.
I'm connected to wifi, and can browse the web, use messenger etc.. But if I attempt something like entering a network path like \\NETDISK\share into the file explorer, it says "Cannot connect etc..." and it's trying to connect via the HSDPA connection, which can't access my local network anyway. It needs to use the wifi...
Is there any way to stop it trying to connect? In the connection settings, I've deleted all modem connections, leaving just the wifi connectivity. If I try to add wifi as a modem, the option is not there...
I'm really lost with this. Please offer any advice you can. I'm close to twisting it in half..
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Hi,
What about putting that networkpath in the adressbar of your browser ?
Dirk
I'm getting so tired of answering this question.......it's very easy
I say you should try and figure it out alone...because that's how I did it!
1- you need a modem Wifi
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2- now with a windows vista
demarrer ->panneau de configuration -> centre reseau
3-choose
configurer une connexion un reseau
4- follower Stages in the pictures
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5- you need to attach the cable internet to your Pc For the distribution on the Internet
6-
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7- now you can work with the wifi of you POcket PC
Gooodman, thanks for the reply, while i'm sure many will find this thread useful now, It's of no help to me.
I do have connectivity via WiFi, It's not a normal networking issue, my network is setup perfectly.
The issue is that the Touch HD is always trying to connect via other means even when wifi is available and connected.
For instance, I'll open messenger, or click download on the aGPS data, and the phone attempts to connect to the internet via my phone service provider, when wifi, is connected and ready.
Some apps connect via wifi fine, it seems to be the WM software itself attempting the connection rather than any of my applications.
I don't think it's as straight forward as the first replyer seems to think.
If he'd be so kind as to post this incredibly simple resolution, i'd be very greateful.
I also struggle with this, but this seems to affect it:
a. Start\settings\connections tab
b. Connections
c. Advanced tab
d. Select Networks button
e. Play around with the drop down menu's, especially the lower one.
I cannot be more precise as I do not completely understand myself, but this has helped me in the past.