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Screen going black

I've tried various different ROM images (including the excellent Dr.Gonzo), and I have this problem with all of them.
When I'm using the phone either with the keyboard in or out, the screen just switches off randomly. If I wait a few seconds (possibly the backlight timer length), then it comes back. Mostly... Othertimes I have to wait a lot longer, but it does always come back.
A reboot sometimes fixes it, but not always - does anything survive a reboot or battery removal?
Anybody else seen anything like this? I have seen a lot of threads about the screen staying on, but not off.
Of course, it could be a hardware fault, but because it's intermittent, it's hard to prove.
Mike

same problem

If you shake the phone can you re-produce this problem? I've never not heard of this being affected by software - you might also want to ensure you're not overclocking it.
Nothing is removed when you do a battery removal or reboot, ensure your connections are all tight and make sure the SIM pins are all making contact and the SIM door closes, apart from that it sounds like a possible bad LCD ribbon.

Shaking it doesn't reproduce the problem.
Once the phone has started doing this, it happens everytime you press a key.
Seems more like a memory leak to me since it always seems to happen after a while of web browsing/email use.

So actually, it looks like it might be a hardware fault.
I think it happens when the device gets warm. After a few minutes with the screen on, keyboard lit up, wifi on, the phone gets pretty warm and that's when the screen seems to go black. Leave to cool and all returns to normal.
Mike

Same issue here, but the screen does not acually go black/blank it just seems that the screen backlight does not turn back on from a standby like state, the phone itself functions but just not able to see whats going on on the screen.
(keyboard lights work fine and come on when expected)
Not sure about the heat theory as it happens (to me) most often right after a call, anything over 30-50 seconds and the backlight problem occurs, when it decides to work again is a matter of luck.
As said before because it's intermittent, it's very hard to prove.
Has anyone who has had this issue, fixed it with a hard reset ?
Very strange ... but also getting very annoying now!

i got the same thing. took it back to warranty and they said nothing's wrong with the phone but i still get this.

I experience the same problems.. it happens pretty random, but every time when you hit a key. I have set all timers to never but the problem is still there.
Running Gonzo 1.1 at the moment, upgraded from guava.. but that didn't solve the problem.
It is getting so annoying now that I am about to throw the s710 in the dustbin

I have had the same problem!
I have turn it back to my provider and no problem now.

i have the same problem with my VOX
apparently, i can still receive phone calls, and do whatever i want with the phone,
but the screen just stays black, its like if you have unplugged your monitor
since i dont have a htc center in my town or anywhere else nearby.
does anyone know a way on how to open the phone, change what need to be changed and correct the problem? im all up for testing if that would resolve this annoying problem :s
cheers everyone

there is a dismantling manual somewhere in this forum. search.
i don't think taking it apart would help you because this is not a physical fault that you can locate.
and i learned that mcel is the retail seller of vox in mozambique. they should be able to help you with service. else just send a mail to htc support and they will guide you.

yes, mcel are the retail sellers, but i tried to go there, and there are no specialists on htc's there,
the thing is, i didnt bought my htc from them, so i can't go there and change for another one
but tks anyway

no problem
but do try to contact htc support by email. they might suggest a way.

I'm having exactly the same weird problem and I think I found some pattern when it occurs. Well, the thing is that in the bright day or in a room with lots of light it works just fine. In the darker conditions… well… not so fine. It seems to me that this screen blackout happens whenever the keyboard light is on and screen changes to full brightness (in the dark, because of the light sensor). In the daylight, keyboard light doesn't turn itself on, so s710 works. I don't know much but this definitely isn't some bad contact problem. Maybe some battery problem, but I doubt it since I can receive phone call in this condition. This started to happen after I flashed this Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM from HTC (I have original S710). Flashing Dr.Gonzo's later on didn't bring any luck either. I believe that some power control SW is the main culprit. I've read that many people mention some Tornado Power Control app. Does anybody know can this application be permanently disabled or removed?

are you trying to say that by desabling the light sensor, the problem might go away?
i would also like to know if it possible to have the baklight on the lowest possible brightness forever, because it seems, on a low brightness the problem might go away

petlof32 said:
I'm having exactly the same weird problem and I think I found some pattern when it occurs. Well, the thing is that in the bright day or in a room with lots of light it works just fine. In the darker conditions… well… not so fine. It seems to me that this screen blackout happens whenever the keyboard light is on and screen changes to full brightness (in the dark, because of the light sensor). In the daylight, keyboard light doesn't turn itself on, so s710 works. I don't know much but this definitely isn't some bad contact problem. Maybe some battery problem, but I doubt it since I can receive phone call in this condition. This started to happen after I flashed this Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM from HTC (I have original S710). Flashing Dr.Gonzo's later on didn't bring any luck either. I believe that some power control SW is the main culprit. I've read that many people mention some Tornado Power Control app. Does anybody know can this application be permanently disabled or removed?
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I also have this problem with the lightsensor turned off. And also at (as it seems) random moments.

well, even with the light sensor turned off, the problem persisted.
i got my phone to a repair shop of htc's, and they figured out the problem
my phone is now 100% thankfully, the repair man told that the problem was because of bad or malfunctioned circuits, he exchanged them with new ones, and the problem went away,
dont know wich circuits exactly, and he didnt want to tell me, but i suggest anyone having the same problem to try and do the same
probably its a hardware malfunction with these VOX,
its possible since so many times before i've heard about malfunctioned pieces coming out in large quantities for sale.
anyways, cheers everyone, and good luck Portugal in EURO!

I have the same problem. I just noticed that it usually happens when the phone is warm, so if you need to do something on my phone just... take some ice from fridge and put it on back of your mobile. I cant see any more solutions.
Please someone help us!

Update. Problem Solved
Just thought I'd update this thread I started.
I sent the phone back to my dealer (Grapevine in Poole,UK).
A week later, I got a brand new one back from the HTC repair centre.
So far, so good. Looks like the problem's solved.
Mike

Sam problem here,
i called with HTC and they sent them to there repair centre.

Not happy with my Raphael

I am sorry to say, but I am not happy with my new phone !
Some serious problems with it.
1. sometimes when I push the powerbutton nothing hapens, and actualy I can see the phone is fuctioning (round button is flashing for new mail). After a few seconds I get the "famous" grey screen. Reboot is the only option.
2. sometimes I wake up and the phone has boot (I guess) somewhere in the night, because I have to give my accescode for the sim.
3. the "broken glass" isue is a problem and happens twice now
Think these are not small problems for a "Pro" phone.
Right now I don't have a riable and solid phone, and I think a pro phone should be that way .
Hope this things are fixed soon.

I wonder if this is a difference in roms or if you should return your touch pro. I've beating the hell out of my phone software wise to see how it will run and i haven't had a single problem yet. I haven't been charging it via the wall charger so maybe that has something to do with it but i doubt it.

Send it back! At least try that once, if you get the same problem again then either you are very unlucky, or there is a problem with all batches. I haven't had either of those problems once and got the phone the day it came out.
I only see one or two people complaining about these issues.
Steve

steveoidm said:
Send it back! At least try that once, if you get the same problem again then either you are very unlucky, or there is a problem with all batches. I haven't had either of those problems once and got the phone the day it came out.
I only see one or two people complaining about these issues.
Steve
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I am thinking about it, to send it back. But I still hope it is a rom problem, like Bxsteeze said. Flashing another rom could help. Soon that is possible I will try.
If it doesn't help I send it back.(forgive my my English )

TBH i would do it the other way around. If flashing the ROM doesn't help because of a hardware fault and you have flashed another ROM, chances are you may not get the replacement you want.
especially as Olinex haven't finished the SPL Downgrader yet.....

DONT send it back ffs!!
We have just got HardSPL for the thing so you can actually try any ROM you wish, surely its worth the little hassle trying that first?!

I had the same "broken glass" like screen issue only once also when sitting overnight, but it wasn´t charging at all.
I have several other issue´s but it think it´s ROM related, and if it´s not i´m gonna send mine back aswel.

I've had issues 2 and 3 happen to me.
A couple of times now when trying to wake the device from an overnight charge in the morning I get no response, device locked. Soft reset and all is well.
Regarding the broken glass thing, that's definitely a software issue. Its TF3D having a spaz. If you disable it and then re-enable it, all is well.
Check out the issues thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418150
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420700

Hey if anyone doesn't want their Raphael. You could give it to me.

hardSPL ? Let the party begin

Problems
Hi,
Four problems i found so far.
First the broken glass effect. When the phone is ringing and i turn it on his screen the ringing stops and the 3dflo breaks. Or the screen turns grey.
Problem 2 After it restarts i get an device.exe issue.
Problem 3 volume of normal calling is very low. In a noisy room it is hard to understand the caller.
Problem 4 During a call several hick-ups. Also when the signal strength is max.
For know. It is a nice smartphone but some things need improvement.

Can I remind people there is an issues thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418150
I know a couple of pages got a bit OT about touch sensitive buttons etc but its back on track now. Log your issues in there guys so we can try and help each other better.

Syphon Filter said:
Can I remind people there is an issues thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418150
I know a couple of pages got a bit OT about touch sensitive buttons etc but its back on track now. Log your issues in there guys so we can try and help each other better.
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And dont forget to add the info to the wiki.

My Touch Pro has had the 'wake up' problem (either refuses to without soft reset or shows me frizzed up screen), has frozen on me during basic setup (following a hard reset) and has given me several spontaneous resets.
It also keeps forgetting my wi-fi network exists.
I feel safe in saying that I have a faulty one, so I'm asking for a replacement.

Screen burn in

I have screen burn in on my Fuze. The two soft buttons and the bottom 2/3's of the scroll bar are visible when they shouldn' t be. For example, click on a reminder at the top so that the screen goes black with the next screen allowing you to choose if you want the reminder, wireless info, etc... At the bottom I'll see the soft keys and program select scroll bar in a gray tint.
I guess I need to leave a white image on the screen for an extended time to undo the burn. But I've only had this phone for a few weeks...I've never had burn in on a cell phone and surely never this quickly on any monitor.

Something similar happened twice to me.. It faded out slowly.. now it's ok
You may check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447891

Funny now it's gone after having it turned off for a couple hours. I'll post if it comes back after I have it on for a bit.

It's Back!!! only took one power on cycle and let it sit there for a couple of minutes :-(
kind of scary.

Is it still under warranty?

Weird but believe me - it is a software issue. Restart will always help

D3TH METAL said:
Is it still under warranty?
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Yes, I'm going to get them to do a warranty replacement. I had another fuze that had a different issue (bad sound) that I replaced after 30 days...it never had this issue.

darfri said:
Weird but believe me - it is a software issue. Restart will always help
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I think the part of the reboot that "fixes" it is the screen goes white for a while which helps clear it up. But a few minutes later its back.

The same happens for me, but not very often.
It must be a software issue, no need to replace your device.
BTW, It's definately not a burnt in screen.

johanromijn said:
The same happens for me, but not very often.
It must be a software issue, no need to replace your device.
BTW, It's definately not a burnt in screen.
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It goes away easier if I use the SPB Clock and put it on the white clock...plug it in...set power options stay on 10 minutes when plugged in.
So it is an LCD type of burn it (it appears) as it goes away when a white screen is forced upon it. I think the pixels in that part of the screen don't change very often so it gets a little memory that needs to be "washed" away. Odd thing is my last one never did it. So I think some LCDs are better quality then others.

Its happened to me twice and both times its gone away.
Its good to hear its a software issue, I was worried it might be hardware.

johanromijn said:
The same happens for me, but not very often.
It must be a software issue, no need to replace your device.
BTW, It's definately not a burnt in screen.
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My first Fuze had this problem. Sure I flashed a lot of roms but each rom displayed the same result for me. After getting a new device, the problem never occurred again.
If it was software, it would be doing on everyone's device in the same place or region. This is a hardware problem, no doubt in my mind. The same rom on 2 different phones would yield the same results if it were software related.
If your phone displays this type of "burn-in" then take it back, exchange it, whatever. My new phone has been perfect and works as it is supposed to.

Unusual Events?
Were there any unusual events that led up to the screen-burn in? It is odd that they would go away and come back like that.... did you try flashing another ROM?

Saw this 'burn in' a couple times too. Was scrolling the touchflo3d and went to the photo and videos tab. Once in camera mode I noticed faintly overlay 'album' and 'slideshow' on the view finder. But the 2 words couldn't have been burned in as its not normally on that tab. Probably some weird software driver issue.

LCD Screen Defect or Software/Driver Problem?

Hey guys,
I am going crazy here, searching forums did not help me at all.
The lower section of the screen keeps flicking, and not always, what do i mean by flicking, its like the screen at the lower section keeps doing like a strange low refresh rate, and has an old imprint of some old menus. Happens especially when there is the color of gray.
Made a screenshot of the phone, no problems, there, so its not a software rendering problem, might be a drivers problem though, or a defec tin the screen itself.
Frequency is high but not always, and am unable to determine when does that happen exactly. going crazy here, is this a defect? or all touch pro's have this?
Exact explanation summary:
1CM from the bottom of the LCD sometimes flickers as if that 1CM is having an extremely low refresh rate. Mostly happens when there is light gray, but not necessarily, and a soft reset for the phone does not remove it. It happens on random!

Hey,
Yeah it happens to me too! You don't need to do a soft reset, it actually fades away if you watch it closely! I don't know what it is either, and yes it is random as you have stated! I initially thought it was an application I installed as it only started happening after that, so I did a full hard reset and its still happening! Not sure what or how, but hoping next firmware version stops it!
Cheers,
mpls-te

As it happens, that's exactly why I've logged on here today! Any ideas whta the cause might be?

OK, good to see that others have this, so am not alone here, experts here, any ideas? other touch pro users, can you please leave your statements?
I hope its a driver issue.
But from what i noticed, its like, the screen is OFF, as in blank and no back light, but somehow, the application working on the screen before you turned off the device is somehow printing something on the LCD, something that we don't see, and when we actually start the phone and its back light, that OFF LINE imprint pops on screen. Something like that.
Its completely illogical, but dunno, can't find any sense here and am going crazy

Same thing happened to me and a few others as well.
See my thread here.
What rom is everyone using?

I've noticed a similar issue with mine, except rather than something software it seems like it's the backlight for the bottom 1cm of the screen flickering slightly. I don't see any weird pixels or inappropriate screen information, just a dimming/high speed flickering of the backlight in that same regionas yours. It comes and goes. Sometimes weeks without it, then maybe 3 times in a day for a minute or two at a time. Everything else works fine and whatever screen I go to displays fine.
I'm assuming it's a hardware problem with the LED(s) that light up the bottom portion of the screen, and I'm going to use it as an excuse to get a warranty replacement somewhere near the end of the warranty when the phone's getting a little old and worn.

maxh said:
I've noticed a similar issue with mine, except rather than something software it seems like it's the backlight for the bottom 1cm of the screen flickering slightly. I don't see any weird pixels or inappropriate screen information, just a dimming/high speed flickering of the backlight in that same regionas yours. It comes and goes. Sometimes weeks without it, then maybe 3 times in a day for a minute or two at a time. Everything else works fine and whatever screen I go to displays fine.
I'm assuming it's a hardware problem with the LED(s) that light up the bottom portion of the screen, and I'm going to use it as an excuse to get a warranty replacement somewhere near the end of the warranty when the phone's getting a little old and worn.
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Lool, evil, lets just hope that this problem DOES occur when you go to their shop for your replacement
Good idea though, might do the same thing except that i have to travel abroad to where i got the phone from to actually get the warranty working. Don't forget to re-enable stock SPL and stock ROM

It happens frequently enough I'll be able to get it on video just in case they need proof, but typically they just exchange by mail.

I just posted in another thread about this issue. I have run into the same thing a few times. The bottom portion of the screen flickers, and when i do things that have a dark gray or black screen I can see a ghost image of the left and right soft keys from my TFL3D home screen. It seems to be most noticeable when the screen brightness is set to max. To get it to go away I usually do a few soft resets, and then, if needed, i will turn off the phone and take the battery out for a while. I have never tried waiting it out to see if it will just go away on its own.

proj3ktpat said:
I just posted in another thread about this issue. I have run into the same thing a few times. The bottom portion of the screen flickers, and when i do things that have a dark gray or black screen I can see a ghost image of the left and right soft keys from my TFL3D home screen. It seems to be most noticeable when the screen brightness is set to max. To get it to go away I usually do a few soft resets, and then, if needed, i will turn off the phone and take the battery out for a while. I have never tried waiting it out to see if it will just go away on its own.
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I see that everyone posting in this thread,that has their signature filled in, is using the Energy ROM. I find that very interesting.

i am having the same problems, sometimes touchflo3d will flicker at the bottom, near the edges. I also get text that can be read through other screens. Like on pocketshield i can see the left and right softkey words still at the bottom. its so odd !
P.S im on energyrom

I'm on NATF v2.2, not an energy rom. But then again, mine looks more like a hardware issue, as I've never seen any ghost images of text or softkeys, just flickering.

can somebody post screens?
maybe the same problem here...
hardreset, other roms > problem still there:-(

Same problem here and I am using stock rom!

here are 3 screens of my xda diamond pro, using latest official o2 rom and newest romeOS eng
hope you can see this prob?! same like yours?

climber1872000 said:
I see that everyone posting in this thread,that has their signature filled in, is using the Energy ROM. I find that very interesting.
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Well, i doubt EnergyROM has anything to do with that problem, since my Stock ROMz had same problem, never got fixed with any updates HTC used to release. MAYBE some Cooked ROMs out there have this solved, if any, please let us know And my problem is nothing close to screenshots above :S

mj084 said:
here are 3 screens of my xda diamond pro, using latest official o2 rom and newest romeOS eng
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hope you can see this prob?! same like yours?
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Dude, those photos are awful, after seeing them am happy with my phone flickering, its nothing close to this.
You see, in your photos, all three of em, you some kind of shadow effect, where text of a button for example has that same text beneath it 3x6mm, that is not my case at all.
My case is as follows, IF i am on the home screen for example all looks ok, except that the bottom 1CM of the screen is flickering. If i go to another window, either a total black one or any other screen, i would still see a ghost of the old home screen, for example, and only at the bottom 1CM.
Will post photos once i get my cam back. Cheers

similar issue
my issue is kinda similar, instead of getting the bottom 1cm or so discoloration or stuck pixels, I get streaks of red or blue on my screen. I have had this happen on each version of NATF I have tried, but don't remember it happening on the stock version (which I am tempted to try again to see if that's the issue).
Could this be a driver issue?

mind is even worse than all you guys, the touch screnn dose not response, and i have the energy rom on it, before it goes wrong. it just suddenly dose not response, than i send it to HTC, they ask for 425.00 for fix.... I will just send this to Asia and get some one to fix it.
But I hope before i send it out, some one can help me here.... anyway can fix it easy!!!!

Hi all, i have the same problem, here's another topic about it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447891&page=2

Help please, what are these horizontal black lines?

They only just appeared today, randomly when I took my phone out of my pocket. I've restarted the phone to no avail, and am panicking because I dont know where to begin..can anyone diagnose my problem?

Looks like dead pixels, but the image isn't really clear enough.
Take a screenshot with some app.
If you see that in the screenshot, then reflash your firmware & ROM or flash an RUU.
If you don't see it in the screenshot, then it's a hardware problem.

Thanks, I took a screenshot and it's not a part of it. The lines keep getting bigger and bigger!

Sounds like it needs to go for repair. Is it under warente? Best of luck to you!
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium

Horizontal Black Lines
dragonnson said:
They only just appeared today, randomly when I took my phone out of my pocket. I've restarted the phone to no avail, and am panicking because I dont know where to begin..can anyone diagnose my problem?
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I too have this issue. It was present from the moment I powered the unit on. I continued with the setup to see if I could adjust the screen or maybe an update might fix it. But sadly no dice. I'm calling Google tonight to see if they can send me another unit or repair this one.

Had the same problem earlier, when i dropped the phone accidentally.
Observation: It gets darker and grows when the phone heats up, and lighter (almost cyan blue) when the phone cools down for a significant period of time with the screen off.
i had to keep the phone near an air conditioner vent for a few hours with the phone turned off for it to disappear.
once the lines disappear completely they dont return back, unless if you drop them again (which is what i did a few days back again.. and the stupid lines are back )
If you have any other ways in which you can get it resolved pls share with us.
Cheers,
Alan