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How can I set up multiple today screens on my blackjack II (WM6)? Looks like wisbar advance desktop would accomplish this, but will it work on a non-touch screen device? I'll try it when I get home later and see. What I want to do is have multiple pages of completely different plugin sets, ie Home, something like HTC Action, Settings, and then be able to switch them by using the volume rocker (up/down). If you could imagine something similar to the HTC cube, only scrolling vertically (with the rocker) that's what I'm going after. I think this would work nicely for us non-touch screen users, i'm beginning to get envious of all the great options out there for touch. Any ideas are greatly appreciated, maybe I'll post a photoshop visual later of what I'm going after.
seems wisbar is pocket pc only at the moment, although it doesn't state this specifically on the downloads page. But i couldn't get through the install on my phone. The forums suggest smartphone apps are in developement but I couldn't find anything. SK Today Commander looks like another option and it installed...however I was unable to select any of the profile options it has, must be just incompatible with my phone or something...
any ideas? Any programmers could make a program that could render the today screen for a few different xml's and allow you to switch between them?
mortscript....looks like it will confuse the hell out of me, but I'm looking into it.
bvone21 said:
seems wisbar is pocket pc only at the moment, although it doesn't state this specifically on the downloads page. But i couldn't get through the install on my phone. The forums suggest smartphone apps are in developement but I couldn't find anything. SK Today Commander looks like another option and it installed...however I was unable to select any of the profile options it has, must be just incompatible with my phone or something...
any ideas? Any programmers could make a program that could render the today screen for a few different xml's and allow you to switch between them?
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sbsh wisbar is for wm6 pro devices with touch screens. sbsh facade is for wm6 standard devices with no touch screen. facade allows the use of multiple screens. check out the sbsh facade forums for some pretty cool multi screen skins.
bvone21 said:
How can I set up multiple today screens on my blackjack II (WM6)? Looks like wisbar advance desktop would accomplish this, but will it work on a non-touch screen device? I'll try it when I get home later and see. What I want to do is have multiple pages of completely different plugin sets, ie Home, something like HTC Action, Settings, and then be able to switch them by using the volume rocker (up/down). If you could imagine something similar to the HTC cube, only scrolling vertically (with the rocker) that's what I'm going after. I think this would work nicely for us non-touch screen users, i'm beginning to get envious of all the great options out there for touch. Any ideas are greatly appreciated, maybe I'll post a photoshop visual later of what I'm going after.
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It is not difficult to create multi-page homescreens, though some "rules" do apply. You can check out what we are doing over at the Facade forum for examples.
http://forums.sbsh.net/index.php?showforum=57
The "rules":
http://forums.sbsh.net/index.php?showtopic=14911&st=0&p=141894&#entry141894
Thanks for your replies guys, yeah it does look like facade is the way to go. Seems ekoflip on the SBSH forums has a few facade homescreens that "fake" the multiple page effect, I'll have to learn from that. I guess what I was really going for was a slick way to navigate them as well. In the facade multiple page themes, you don't really have more than one plugin on each "page", is that because you need the up/down keys to switch "pages" so you can't use them to go from plugin to plugin within the same "page" ? not as functional, or as "slick" as may be possible...
But I will definitely be looking into it, hopefully this weekend, thanks again.
Hello. I am a bit unhappy Touch PRO user because I love touchflo interface but would like also to use system tray-controlled software like openvpn or vsUtil.
I already installed secondtoday (also replaced the "Phone" softkey with it) but there is no way to make REAL tray icons appear there, only fake launcher stuff with Homescreen PLusPlus. The way left to access tray-controlled apps is to quit tochflo today plugin thru loooong series of taps thru settings.
I-d love an alternative such as make real tray icons still appear in Secondtoday or a lightweight tray icons porting popup app. Any other ideas/clues how to get an easy access to tray icons from touchfo....
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I agree.
My office forces us to use the Good email system. That software uses its own version of the email client, calendar and contacts. I'd like to reassign the tray "buttons" to point to the Good programs rather than being stuck with quick links to now unused versions of email, calendar and contacts.
Ira
Hi,
did you find a solution to the problem in the meantime?
Without the trayicons i have to choose between a pretty finger-enabled gui or using my universities WLAN.
Kind regards,
samoht
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i assume you are talking about enlargetitlebar which which gives you easier hits on the "system tray" notifications. you should be able to disable it in the registry. mess around in hklm\software\htc. there might be an enable dword you can set to 0. i dont have it installed on my rom and i kind of miss it so i may try to get it back on my next flash.
No, i refer to the system tray at the bottom of today screen as shown in this screenshot.
The manilla interface is drawn on top of it and theres no easy way to access it. I have to disable touchflo in the settings, then start openvpn and afterwars reactivate touchflo. This is annoying... too bad openvpn relies on this.
oh yeah. forgot all about that thing. havent seen it in years. try a tf3d to today switcher thing. ive seen ones that it changes the left home tab soft key to the words "today" which lets you have a second today screen and today items and i guess the system tray too along side tf3d. ill try to find it again.
edit: try this -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480475
@The Jack of Clubs:
Thanks so much! This works for me, i can switch between classic today screen and manilla rather fast!
@The Jack of Clubs:
Thanks so much! This works for me, i can switch between classic today screen and manilla rather fast!
First off I want to thank everyone here at XDA for all the hard work and effort you put into tweaking these great devices.
Now, on to my question, I've searched here and the diamond forum and I can't find any mention of a way to change the shortcut buttons on the landscape TF3D screen. I would really like to be able to customize that screen with shortcuts to applications I actually use. There must be a way to do this, has anyone got an idea?
First post , please go easy on my noobness.
Searchipoos......
Post #9 on first page, bottom ish of second page for a bit extra
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426328&page=2
Thanks Ouza but I saw that post and it's not what I'm looking for. This only deals with changing the two softkeys at the bottom of the landscape screen (which is nice in itself).
I'm wanting to change the 6 big shortcut ''buttons'' above that.
Basically I'd like to make the landscape screen the same idea as the programs tab in TF3D or something like it.
Any ideas... anyone??
I would seriously like to change the big shortcuts as well.I have a dock in my car using the video out. Video out forces Landscape mode. When I hop in my car, I dont want to take notes or check tasks, I want GPS, internet radio, Live Search...
I will dig deep into the registry and let you know what I find.
I want the same thing !!
Video out in the car, so I want to be able to start my Navigation from the landscape-menu.
Jochen
Change Landscape Menu
For the TV out menu that pops on screen after you plug in the video out cable, you can change the shortcuts in the registry.
HKLM\Software\HTC\TVOutPopUp\
There are four links in there, you can change them to any app installed on your phone. Only problem im having is changing the icons.
I have to bump this thread. There must be a customizer out there for the lanscape shortcuts! I just may go back to HTC Home if there is no way to put shortcuts in landscape!
I doubt this is exactly what you're looking for, but herg62123 is working on adding landscape tf3d to his project. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447056
Not quite,
I have my TP docked in landscape in the car and I would like to open apps like NAV, or Picture Dial, or Kinoma Play in landscape.
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First off I want to thank everyone here at XDA for all the hard work and effort you put into tweaking these great devices.
Now, on to my question, I've searched here and the diamond forum and I can't find any mention of a way to change the shortcut buttons on the landscape TF3D screen. I would really like to be able to customize that screen with shortcuts to applications I actually use. There must be a way to do this, has anyone got an idea?
First post , please go easy on my noobness.
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I don't think there is going to be any easy way to customize those shortcuts. I'm pretty sure the landscape shortcuts are hard-coded in one of the binary manila files.
That sucks!
Well I guess HTC Home will do for now.
You could change the softkeys to point to two of the apps you want to run. Not the perfect solution but it's better than nothing...
I guess....
Maybe I can use 2nd today and set a button to it with AEbutton and have HTC HOME for landscape and TF3D for portrait.
Thoughts?
sandiegodude said:
I guess....
Maybe I can use 2nd today and set a button to it with AEbutton and have HTC HOME for landscape and TF3D for portrait.
Thoughts?
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Sounds like a good solution. I haven't used either product but from what I've read on here that should work. good luck!
Glad to see this topic getting some attention finally
For anyone interested, try out this theme with a slimmed down version of tf3d in landscape. It may suit what you're wanting more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458036&highlight=landscape
Frankly, though, I didn't like it, and preferred to go back to my old theme. My main goal was having a landscape screen with a handful of a few apps I'm most likely to use, but in this theme you still have to scroll through your entire list of apps installed so, it really wasn't any kind of shortcut.
I'll keep sorting through all the manila files for a solution. Anyone with any reference docs or anything on creating themes or customizing tf3d would help as I've never dealt with it until now.
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Glad to see this topic getting some attention finally
For anyone interested, try out this theme with a slimmed down version of tf3d in landscape. It may suit what you're wanting more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458036&highlight=landscape
Frankly, though, I didn't like it, and preferred to go back to my old theme. My main goal was having a landscape screen with a handful of a few apps I'm most likely to use, but in this theme you still have to scroll through your entire list of apps installed so, it really wasn't any kind of shortcut.
I'll keep sorting through all the manila files for a solution. Anyone with any reference docs or anything on creating themes or customizing tf3d would help as I've never dealt with it until now.
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I've been searching around and noticed that indeed themes do change the "landschape shortcuts" but there doesn't seem to be a "general" program that's able to change them. I'm a little confused, because some reactions state it isn't possible to change these "shortcuts", saying they are hardcoded. Does this mean they're rooted so deep in the code that it's very hard to change them? Anyway I keep following this thread and hopefully some come up with a solution... Keep it up!
*Wish I could help*
I am still using UltimateLaunch even with all these new UI's out there for the customization abilities and small footprint (only have 64mb on the i760). I am looking for someone to develop an application that I can launch using the gestures feature of UL. The application(s) would slide in from the top or bottom to reveal a quicklauncher, task manager, etc. This would be similar to Android. If anyone could develop this or if there is one out there that I am missing, please let me know.
erm have you tried FtouchSL ?
it 's just what you need
I've been thinking of doing something like this for a while with icon based panes.
ather90 said:
erm have you tried FtouchSL ?
it 's just what you need
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Hey ather,
I don't think that is what he is talking about. Keep in mind that UL does have gesture support, so it isn't about the gesture itself, but rather a program (possibly with a nice transition animation) that can attach to UL as some sort of an addon (like he said, think of the Android launcher menu).
@joshrys
what you could do is to install Slither's cube. It can be easily installed and has a very smooth transition effect. Just associate the Up-Down/Down-Up with UL and you should end up with a nice interface. Just my two cents...
ah sorry my bad, didnt read the whole thing properly, he wanted to use the UL's gestures
Thanks for the suggestions, i currently have IE set to launch with a down swipe and the comm manager with the up swipe, I am just looking for an app that will slide down and up with the swipes for launching things. FTouch is a great program, i have used the trial before, but not necesarrily what I'm looking for. UL is great, the up/down is just about the only thing I think it's lacking. it goes left/right, why not up/down?
Have you tried MortButtons? You can configure it to do what you want and it has a task manager and it's skinnable.
joshrys said:
Thanks for the suggestions, i currently have IE set to launch with a down swipe and the comm manager with the up swipe, I am just looking for an app that will slide down and up with the swipes for launching things. FTouch is a great program, i have used the trial before, but not necesarrily what I'm looking for. UL is great, the up/down is just about the only thing I think it's lacking. it goes left/right, why not up/down?
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Let me see if I understood correctly... you are basically asking for UL to behave like a cube (not the Touch cube, but an actual six-sided cube [maybe even more sides]). I have waited for something like that for the longest time. The Touch cube (Slither's, Byka, etc) has been the closest thing I have seen to my "dream". However, just like UL, there is no Up-Down/Down-Up swipe launchers.
It would be nice to have something like that without having to install multiple apps to get the wanted effect(s).
I guess if the programmer of UL can release his code, it might be easy to modify in such a way as to adapt the missing swipe functions....
Is there anyone that is willing to give this a shot? (I cannot program if my life depended on it )
Hy Guys....
just a quick question to all Manilla Chefs out there....
i had the idea to edit the Manilla, when its possible, to get a Sliding Manilla...
i mean if you look at the iPhone, when you drag the Screnns to the side the next Screenwill smoothly slide in...
in Manilla, whipping with the finger on the screen just manilla jumps to the next page...
i think it shouldn't be the Problem to get the pages too slide, the bottom slider did the trick allready... just want this "goodie" on the hole manilla...
and i doenst need to get the greyed out and big tab Icons while sliding...
hope you understand what i mean...
just an idea but someone has some ideas or knowledge to did this trick!
I remember when the Diamond and Manila 1.0 first came out, there was an animation each time you changed tabs in Manila. It was deacticated later since it was way too slow and people wanted their TF3D experience fast and snappy.
its not very handy to have the slide function as per iphone as:
say you want to go to the second last page, the mannilla scroll bar allows to get there in a single controlled swype but if you had the page scroll like the iphone you would have to scroll through each page or scroll backwards (if its possible) to get to that page.
the point im trying to make is the iphone scroll may well look pretty but the single swipe manilla scroll bar is far more efficient! ask yoursel, is it usefull?
I understand that it wouldn't work very well if it were like the iPhone. Personally I would just like to see the animation back like it was when the diamond came out, I know it was slow then but surly out snapdragon should lap it up now?......
i can confirm that i had the multi swap idea earlier...
nothing to complain about that... this not as handy like now is...
but it looks more smooth...
i found a youtube video where you can see the "old" manilla style did this... its not just swipe the page... .. that was the cause because htc calls his interface 3D ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6TLqDcAJDo
look around 5:40 .... there the guy starts to use it...
maybe its still in the sense? only disabled as we did on tfl3d on diamond by our own? any one knows the keys anymore?? just searched the forum but didn't find something...
hey correct me if i'm wrong...
the 3d slide effects only happens on diamond when clicking a tab...
when sliding the figer over the tab bar it is like in sense 2.5 ... big curtain with big tab icon will apear??
futureshock said:
i can confirm that i had the multi swap idea earlier...
nothing to complain about that... this not as handy like now is...
but it looks more smooth...
i found a youtube video where you can see the "old" manilla style did this... its not just swipe the page... .. that was the cause because htc calls his interface 3D ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6TLqDcAJDo
look around 5:40 .... there the guy starts to use it...
maybe its still in the sense? only disabled as we did on tfl3d on diamond by our own? any one knows the keys anymore?? just searched the forum but didn't find something...
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Thats it, I want that back!! Looks so much slicker!!
hey again... i found something...
it wasent a tweak what disabled it...
it was htc himself...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2576833
tnyynt said:
No, fading effects were removed in latest updates to speed up transitions.
It's not due to tweaks, it's due to ROM update.
To get them back install older version of Manila with fade effects.
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but maybe its possible to get the animation back....
I agree, i think it looks crap when you swipe and tap and a tab and there is no animation. If it faded or slide it would be much better. Even the old style was really nice. I think it actually makes it feel more responsive too because its doing a animation while the page loads
futureshock said:
i can confirm that i had the multi swap idea earlier...
nothing to complain about that... this not as handy like now is...
but it looks more smooth...
i found a youtube video where you can see the "old" manilla style did this... its not just swipe the page... .. that was the cause because htc calls his interface 3D ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6TLqDcAJDo
look around 5:40 .... there the guy starts to use it...
maybe its still in the sense? only disabled as we did on tfl3d on diamond by our own? any one knows the keys anymore?? just searched the forum but didn't find something...
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Looks pretty slick! I'd like that back too.
Have a try with MaxManila 2.5 v 2.7 Main beta: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551489
This gives you the possibility to swype from page to page (from left to right or vice versa).
what??? Where can i set this in MaxManila??? It´ll delete the animation for the shortcuts... but i cant see an option for a page sliding....
body85 said:
what??? Where can i set this in MaxManila??? It´ll delete the animation for the shortcuts... but i cant see an option for a page sliding....
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the only way to find this out is to install MaxManila 2.5 version 2.7 beta. After that you'll see that you're able to swype from left to right or vice versa without using the "bottom icons slider". It also will not delete your shortcut animations. It even will allow you to hide the shortcuts and bring them back with a swype of your finger from bottom to top of the screen. Read the post of the OP carefully to understand what this theme does.
kuzibri said:
the only way to find this out is to install MaxManila 2.5 version 2.7 beta. After that you'll see that you're able to swype from left to right or vice versa without using the "bottom icons slider". It also will not delete your shortcut animations. It even will allow you to hide the shortcuts and bring them back with a swype of your finger from bottom to top of the screen. Read the post of the OP carefully to understand what this theme does.
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........ok so u can slide without with from tab to tab... but the thread means a SLIDING ANIMATION...
would it be possible to take the animation files from the old manila and adapt them for sense?
kuzibri said:
the only way to find this out is to install MaxManila 2.5 version 2.7 beta. After that you'll see that you're able to swype from left to right or vice versa without using the "bottom icons slider". It also will not delete your shortcut animations. It even will allow you to hide the shortcuts and bring them back with a swype of your finger from bottom to top of the screen. Read the post of the OP carefully to understand what this theme does.
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ok doesn't really understand what you mean...
i can also swipe without maxmanilla without using the tabslider from page to page!!
just wipe obe the main aera...
what we want to get is an animation between the page slides...
dooing this now just jumps from one page to the other... not nice, and it feels and looks like a bit rough ... not as smooth as iphone did this... and i think the smoothnes factor that many iphones users evertime despite is this sluggish hopping page changing in manilla....
Microsoft did it a way better in the new 6.5 Starmenu... just look great and give a good feel...
also the Tab Slides is "animated" like we wannt... why HTC didn't do that onthe "mainpages" ???
loomx said:
would it be possible to take the animation files from the old manila and adapt them for sense?
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maybe yes...
its a starting point to look into an old cab and looks what manilla files did there...
but i'm far away from knowing the manilla depths that we need to implement them...
maybe one of the manilla gurus out there do the trick for us poor people
it would be so nice... if we can slide to the half...hold...and back... like in Iphone Today or Mobile Shell....