Hey Everyone,
As has been mentioned many times in other threads:
1) The LCD is often the biggest battery drainer
2) The 'minimum' setting of the brightness setting is still needlessly bright.
It certainly can be pushed further down for dim/night/dark settings.
3) Certain apps "dim" the screen but are just changing the color, not the backlight. So while useful they still aren't helping your battery.
Following some tips from a different android phone, I found this file:
/sys/devices/platform_/nov_cabc.0/leds/lcd-backlight/brightness
Which appears to contain the current 'brightness #' of the LCD backlight.
Using the normal Brightness slider, the value changes from 30 - 255, with 255 being the brightest. So this clearly could be reduced further.
Setting 'Screen Filter' to 50% brightness has no effect on the value.
Here's something interesting:
Assume the screen is already set at lowest brightness.
When I use 'Widgetsoid' to set brightness to '1', the screen dims slightly, then brightens back up. The 'brightness' file gets set to 20.
'widgetsoid 20' feels the same as 'min brightness 30'. - I wonder if Android is enforcing minimum backlight?
Anyway, thought that would be interesting to note. I'm going to download some other screen dimmer apps and see what they do.
- Frank
I found this online which is very interesting reading:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35972886/An-Analysis-of-Power-Consumption-in-a-Smart-Phone
At '30' they said the display consumed 7.8 mW, while at 255 it consumed 414 (!!!)
Various apps coud push the value to 20 - tasker, adjbrightness.
Tasker tries to set it lower but as with widgetsoid, you can see the screen get forced back up to 20.
adjbrightness can "set" it lower than 20, but the entire screen blacks out, even at 19. Remember where the other buttons are so you can restore brightness!
- Frank
Whoa, thanks for the information. That pretty insane but its an apparently in the Market: Screen Filter, saves a helluva lot of battery.
Edit: Nevermind, Frank shut me up LOL.
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I read a thread that said that the stock rom just doesn't allow setting it that low.
Ah well
- Frank
ChodTheWacko said:
I read a thread that said that the stock rom just doesn't allow setting it that low.
Ah well
- Frank
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Can you set it lower in other roms - like cm7?
netter123 said:
Can you set it lower in other roms - like cm7?
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I've been playing with CM7 which has some nice features for customizing the auto-brightness settings as well as the "dim" value which seems to be the lowest value the screen will go to and what it gets set to when the screen dims before shutting off after a timeout.
For the Dim setting in CM7, the default is 20. The next highest setting in the picker is 18. I believe it goes down to 0 or 1. When set to 18 or lower the screen blanks out completely when dimmed. Depending on how you test this, you may have a problem getting the screen back, so be careful you know where your widget button is on the screen to bring it back... 20 seems to be the lowest value. However, while dim, in a very dark room it could certainly be even dimmer so I don't know why lower values don't work.
I've also found the light detector doesn't seem to detect a continuum of light levels. It seems to be quantized at particular values, so there's a pretty hard limit on how fine you can set the auto brightness levels since the lowest light reading it seems to take is not very sensitive. It can't seem to distinguish between a fully darkened room and a dimly lit room, so setting the lowest value automatically makes the screen too dark to be comfortable in many environments, but then too bright for a really dark room. I don't know if this is an issue with the ROM software or a hardware limitation of the sensor. I've set my lowest auto setting to 40 which seems to work well, then I manually switch it to the dim value (20) if I'm in the dark.
I really love my Inspire, especially w/ Honeyogen installed. But the problem of viewing the screen in direct sunlight is a major problem for me, one that I cant seem to find a soultion for.
Ive tried different screen covers & different ROMs & even different Kernals, yet the Inspires Slcd screen is still terrible in direct sunlight, as all I see is my reflection.
My question is this... is there anyway to hack the screen to increase the brightness beyond the "normal" or "stock" brightness levels?
I would think that if developers can hack volume levels for the external speaker & also freq values for overclocking the cpu, that the same could be possible for the screen brightness!?
Thanks, i appreciate your thoughts!
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I really love my Inspire, especially w/ Honeyogen installed. But the problem of viewing the screen in direct sunlight is a major problem for me, one that I cant seem to find a soultion for.
Ive tried different screen covers & different ROMs & even different Kernals, yet the Inspires Slcd screen is still terrible in direct sunlight, as all I see is my reflection.
My question is this... is there anyway to hack the screen to increase the brightness beyond the "normal" or "stock" brightness levels?
I would think that if developers can hack volume levels for the external speaker & also freq values for overclocking the cpu, that the same could be possible for the screen brightness!?
Thanks, i appreciate your thoughts!
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Thank you for this question. I am interested in a solution to this as well.
is your screen on auto brightness? take it off and adjust yourself. it will adjust to light depending on how much and how little you get.
If your rom is cm7 base go to menu, settings,cyanogenmod settings,display, automatic backlight,scroll down to light levels,check use custom, other levels, (this is what I do) change 1st 3 screen profiles from 41 to 61, 61 to 81, 81 to 101, then hit save and apply. The higher the # the brighter the screen. Those settings are pretty good on battery and definitely helps on making the screen more viewable outside and in bright rooms. Hour this helps
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Thanks for trying, but of course I've set my brightness levels myself. Auto-brightness doesn't do it for me.
I'm just surprised that there aren't hacks for screen brightness. Just as speakers levels & the CPU are governed to a certain threshold in stock configs, I would think the screen is governed and has much higher brightness levels it can go beyond.
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If your rom is cm7 base go to menu, settings,cyanogenmod settings,display, automatic backlight,scroll down to light levels,check use custom, other levels, (this is what I do) change 1st 3 screen profiles from 41 to 61, 61 to 81, 81 to 101, then hit save and apply. The higher the # the brighter the screen. Those settings are pretty good on battery and definitely helps on making the screen more viewable outside and in bright rooms. Hour this helps
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Yes, my ROM is CM7 based. But I assume these custom levels are for the Auto-Brightness mode?
Also, where exactly do I make these changes? Because the "screen" values are already at 41, 61, 81, 112 and so forth. So I assume these values have been changed by my ROM developer or are they CM7 defaults? Or do I have it all wrong? LOL. Thanks again.
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is your screen on auto brightness? take it off and adjust yourself. it will adjust to light depending on how much and how little you get.
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Thanks for trying, but of course I've set my brightness levels myself. Auto-brightness doesn't do it for me.
I'm just surprised that there aren't hacks for screen brightness. Just as speakers levels & the CPU are governed to a certain threshold in stock configs, I would think the screen is governed and has much higher brightness levels it can go beyond.
Yes, this is for auto brightness. You do have the correct defaults. I bumped the first 3 profiles up by 20 and screen is brighter at lower levels.
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also would like to know if there is any way to do this! bump!!!!
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Yes, this is for auto brightness. You do have the correct defaults. I bumped the first 3 profiles up by 20 and screen is brighter at lower levels.
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Ok, but my question is does this actually make the screen any brighter than the highest stock brightness level?
Or does this just change the values, so that the lower values are brighter, but no brighter than the stock highest level?
no brighter than brightest stock value
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So why can you developers increase & hack the speaker and the CPU values and MAX out their potential, yet the screen's potential is wasted and we are stuck with dark screens that can't be seen very well outdoors?
It doesn't make sense to me. The screen backlight must have more potential, they don't push ANY hardware to it's max in stock configurations.
Come on developers, we need you again!
FALSE - juice defender's ultimate (maybe even pro) app can adjust it higher than the 100% brightness value. Only problem with this is that you have to let it control your brightness settings, but there's a bug that doesn't allow you to install apk's manually - so you have to disable the brightness while you install apks (or you could just install through adb lol). so yes, there is a way.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.latedroid.ultimatejuice&feature=search_result
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FALSE - juice defender's ultimate (maybe even pro) app can adjust it higher than the 100% brightness value. Only problem with this is that you have to let it control your brightness settings, but there's a bug that doesn't allow you to install apk's manually - so you have to disable the brightness while you install apks (or you could just install through adb lol). so yes, there is a way.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.latedroid.ultimatejuice&feature=search_result
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Thanks! Didn't know this.
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FALSE - juice defender's ultimate (maybe even pro) app can adjust it higher than the 100% brightness value. Only problem with this is that you have to let it control your brightness settings, but there's a bug that doesn't allow you to install apk's manually - so you have to disable the brightness while you install apks (or you could just install through adb lol). so yes, there is a way.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.latedroid.ultimatejuice&feature=search_result
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Um no Juicedefender does'nt raise the screen brightness ANY higher than you normally can w/ the stock brightness slider. All that does is mess with the Auto-Brightness settings.
Alot of people seem to get the Auto-Brightness settings confused with what I am asking. I want to be able to raise the brightness beyond the MANUAL brightness slider. If you raise the auto-brightness setting, your STILL limited to the max value that's on the manual brightness slider. I want THAT manual setting to be pushed beyond the normal "stock" value, which I guess is impossible......can't understand why when almost every other hardware is hacked to allow better performance.
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Um no Juicedefender does'nt raise the screen brightness ANY higher than you normally can w/ the stock brightness slider. All that does is mess with the Auto-Brightness settings.
Alot of people seem to get the Auto-Brightness settings confused with what I am asking. I want to be able to raise the brightness beyond the MANUAL brightness slider. If you raise the auto-brightness setting, your STILL limited to the max value that's on the manual brightness slider. I want THAT manual setting to be pushed beyond the normal "stock" value, which I guess is impossible......can't understand why when almost every other hardware is hacked to allow better performance.
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Okay sorry just looked at juice defender again. It allows you to only change the shape of the brightness curve. As for forcing a brighter screen level I'm blank on that. Have you manually set it to 100% and its still. Not bright enough?
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You cant overclock the values of your android hardware "screen" for brightness and dimness since it can only work properly on a given threshold hence any more than that is negligible.
Hi guys,
I have a cheap Chinese Cube T8Plus that I use exclusively to read comics and books at night.
It works really well for that use, but has 2 very annoying problems with backlight brightness that makes it less than ideal for low light use:
- with manual brightness, the minimum brightness is very high, and even with root and a software like brightness tweak, it stays the same (I can actually increase the minimum brightness, but not decrease it).
- with auto brightness, surprisingly on low light the screen gets a lot dimmer than with manual brightness, it makes a huge difference. But here too there is a big problem; the brightness does increase whenever I the tablet is exposed to higher light, but doesn't decrease back on low light, no matter what I do.
The only way to reset it back is to fully reboot the tablet.
I tried different roms to try fixing the issue, they all have the same behavior sadly.
Of course I know there are screen filter solutions like the twilight app, which I actually use, but it's not always enough, and kills the contrast a little bit too much sometimes.
So is there any other way to force the manual brightness to go lower, that might work for me?
If not can I override the auto brightness in some way?
Thanks
I don't want "daddy Samsung" to decide when my phone can reach maximum brightness or not [even if it is to protect my eyes or save battery etc..].
So, how do I enable my phone [in any way nessecary] so that I can manually adjust it to maximum/peak brightness via the slider, without being in sunlight?
With "unlock" do you mean to root it?
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With "unlock" do you mean to root it?
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Let's just use the word "enable" [in any way necessary]. I'm willing to root if need be, but in that case I would like to know which mods/kernels etc that can make this happen
white-k said:
I don't want "daddy Samsung" to decide when my phone can reach maximum brightness or not [even if it is to protect my eyes or save battery etc..].
So, how do I enable my phone [in any way nessecary] so that I can manually adjust it to maximum/peak brightness via the slider, without being in sunlight?
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What is wrong with disabling auto brightness in Settings and using the slider manually to maximise the brightness? Or do I understand your issue wrongly?
TNSMANI said:
What is wrong with disabling auto brightness in Settings and using the slider manually to maximise the brightness? Or do I understand your issue wrongly?
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Most modern phones won't reach peak brightness unless they are in direct sunligt (by the light sensor). The slider at maximum brightness isn't really the phone's peak brightness. The slider is "capped" unless one modifies it somehow (the idea is to protect one's eyes, save battery life etc...).
For example, on gsmarena the specs for the S23's display are: "1200 nits (HBM), 1750 nits (peak)".
So, the slider only brings the phone's display to 1200 nits, while the display's full capacity is actually 1750 nits.
white-k said:
Most modern phones won't reach peak brightness unless they are in direct sunligt (by the light sensor). The slider at maximum brightness isn't really the phone's peak brightness. The slider is "capped" unless one modifies it somehow (the idea is to protect one's eyes, save battery life etc...).
For example, on gsmarena the specs for the S23's display are: "1200 nits (HBM), 1750 nits (peak)".
So, the slider only brings the phone's display to 1200 nits, while the display's full capacity is actually 1750 nits.
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Didn't know that and learnt something for today. Sorry for not being able to help since my knowledge of Android does not stretch that much.