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Microsoft needs to make better games/apps for windows mobile. Similar to the iphone games/apps because this is why most people buy the iphone; for the games and apps. Microsft needs to build there own games and apps that run smoother and look better. Maybe make a deal with apple and use there apps but convert them to be playable on wm devices.
How to make the games better:
- Focus on a single device e.g HTC touch HD (blackstone)
- or focus on building games/apps that just use the touch screen and accelerometer or g-sensor.
- make the games/apps have better graphics.
- make the games/apps have smoother images not like the old men application that are out at the momment.
- make the game actually run smoother.
- build a software version of multitouch screen
- basically copy the iphone apps/games.
I'm not an iphone fan and i will never buy them but i just want microsoft to build better apps/games just like the one on the iphone. Becuase lets face it the iphone is beating windows mobile by a long shot.
Build this as a service pack not a new os because you seem to be taking to long the build a new os. And speed things up becuase before you know it if you take a year to bring this out then apple will be ahead of you again
Fix it microsoft!!!!!!!
- Focus on a single device e.g HTC touch HD (blackstone) That's where your opinion is duped, Apple is about resitriction and focusing one item, Microsoft focuses and gives freedom for everyone to choose how they want to use the OS, you should say they should focus on WVGA games and possible VGA games and to push makers to concentrate on those screen resolutions
- or focus on building games/apps that just use the touch screen and accelerometer or g-sensor. Games already exist that use the Gsensor, as mentioned above, Microsoft lets the makers choose however if it had no choice to support it's device such as the XBOX360 then you will see a larger amount of support
- make the games/apps have better graphics. Again the hardware is there, stronger than the iPhone even but Microsoft should push developers to this ideal of better games, not just better graphics
- make the games/apps have smoother images not like the old men application that are out at the moment. Refer back to how not all WinMO phones are the same
- build a software version of multitouch screen Resistive is better than Capacitive because you can use anything to control the screen, however multitouch becomes a problem without new hardware (which has been made)
- basically copy the iphone apps/games. How about no, there is hardly any quality stuff for the iPhone anyways, if you reckon stuff like iFart are worthwhile apps then get the iPhone. Each OS is made for different types of crowds. The games made for the iPhone can easily be made for the WinMO but my first point is that not all WinMo phones have the same hardware and screen resolution so it is 3 times the trouble to make a game for all WinMo phones (WQVGA, QVGA, WVGA)
ms do with wm as they do with normal windows
focusing on a single hardware platform would be like
them focusing on dell pc's only
i agree (with responders) at the end of the day yes its a drab os and its got faults but id reather have these isues than be restricted by microsoft to what i can and cant do, i reckon if they did just do the iphone thing wede be all moving to linux or android not the iphone
also why do people commit to windows mobile (i know recently its gotten more finger and gaming friendly, but its still a business os)
and complain
I agree with you 'Psygnosis84' saying "- Focus on a single device e.g HTC touch HD (blackstone) That's where your opinion is duped, Apple is about resitriction and focusing one item, Microsoft focuses and gives freedom for everyone to choose how they want to use the OS, you should say they should focus on WVGA games and possible VGA games and to push makers to concentrate on those screen resolutions"
I feel that the games that are out for windows mobile are rubbish and as a result they don't sell very well. There are a lot of good games for the Iphone like 'crash nitro kart'
and 'super monkey ball'
Maybe there should be one company that focuses on making these games. All i ever see is people askng if they can play iphone games on windows mobile. And this company should focus on VGA and WVGA. I think both windows mobile would benifit from this but there is no companies that want to spend a lot of time making games for windows mobile because it hard to build game that look good, run smooth, and is finger friendly on windows mobile. You would have to spend a lot of time to build a games like this. Most of the games already built for windows mobile aren't built properly. They skip corners which makes them run unsmooth. Most of the game companies are building games for the iphone now because its easy to build the software and a lot more people buy the iphone.
I agree with you 'Psygnosis84' saying "- Focus on a single device e.g HTC touch HD (blackstone) That's where your opinion is duped, Apple is about resitriction and focusing one item, Microsoft focuses and gives freedom for everyone to choose how they want to use the OS, you should say they should focus on WVGA games and possible VGA games and to push makers to concentrate on those screen resolutions"
I feel that the games that are out for windows mobile are rubbish and as a result they don't sell very well. There are a lot of good games for the Iphone like 'crash nitro kart'
and 'super monkey ball'
Maybe there should be one company that focuses on making these games. All i ever see is people askng if they can play iphone games on windows mobile. And this company should focus on VGA and WVGA. I think both windows mobile would benifit from this but there is no companies that want to spend a lot of time making games for windows mobile because it hard to build game that look good, run smooth, and is finger friendly on windows mobile. You would have to spend a lot of time to build a games like this. Most of the games already built for windows mobile aren't built properly. They skip corners which makes them run unsmooth. Most of the game companies are building games for the iphone now because its easy to build the software and a lot more people buy the iphone.
It really sounds like you just need to get yourself an iphone. You seem to be more interested in a full touchscreen gaming platform with a phone attached than anything else. WM is moreso for adults who want need full PIM functionality as well as powerusers that like to tweak.
I want my ham sandwich to be more like a taco, but sometimes, life is cruel.
Any one can explain why Iphone can run graphics more smooth than WM?
I have HTC Touch HD and i test a lot of cooked roms and an official roms but it still slowly.
The hardware of Iphone is better than my HTC HD?
Regards
This might have been the wrong place to ask that question, but have you seen how simple the OS for the iPhone is? If you compare it with WM, it's just a start menu with tweaks. If you did that to WM, it'd fly as well too because it has no reason to use up it's power or memory in keeping a very nice interface smooth.
Good evening, don't forget that Windows Mobile (WinCE) is way older than Iphone... Microsoft WinCE was created in 1996 beetwin that time and now, things have change 3g, smartphone, colour-screen, wifi,... Windows Mobile is not ready it's like a wall with 15 layer of wallpaper. While Iphone is new it's developed with all this technologies built-in like a wall with only one wallpaper and the best one.
Between Cassipeia A20 and latest HTC... it's been a long way.
hugomenezes said:
Any one can explain why Iphone can run graphics more smooth than WM?
I have HTC Touch HD and i test a lot of cooked roms and an official roms but it still slowly.
The hardware of Iphone is better than my HTC HD?
Regards
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what windows mobile can do that iphone cannot..
1st windows can unzip RAR,zip...etc.. alot kind of format when company send u a email that have attachment in ZIP that iphone unable to read the file. but windows mobile can!
2nd playing play with fews friend on wifi local game network on laptop connecting windows mobile.but iphone cannot!
3rd windows mobile can play FLASH format. but iphone cannot!
4th windows mobile able to support more video/audio codec. but iphone cannot!
5th windows mobile can download bittorrent!. but iphone cannot
6th windows mobile can change battery when ur battery is low. but iphone cannot!
7th windows mobile more app.
8th windows mobile can sync any song/video and other without installing itunes.but iphone must install itunes to add video or song
9th windows mobile can share song/video/photo other file but iphone cannot!
sorry too many to add.. lazy
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hugomenezes said:
Any one can explain why Iphone can run graphics more smooth than WM?
The hardware of Iphone is better than my HTC HD?
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The GPU is faster; generally PowerVR versus Adrena 200 (AMD Z430). Has nothing to do with the OS. In my opinion, the Apple OS approach is way too restrictive.
One thing WiMo can not do that the iPhone can is WPA2-Enterprise authentication without a certificate. But that's about it. At the end of the day, I don't miss my iPhone, very happy with my HTC HD2.
Well.. if you are comparing iOS with WiMo.. you might aswell add Android.
Well, personally I prefer both Android and WinMo over iOS.
why?
basically, because you can do more with both android and WinMo without rooting/jailbreaking the device. Than you could with an non-jailbroken iPhone.
with Android and Winmo:
- You can use your phone as a wi-fi hotspot
- Download different movie/media players
- Brows your files on your device and/or computer
- etc
However..
You can't add icons onto your desktop in WinMo. Neither can you add folders on your own(It is possible that i've been missing something here ofc).
Both the Android and iOS platform has devices that does support games with smooth graphics(as you call it).
And I find that the App store and Android Market is better than the WinMo market.
But that might just be me.
Both Android and WinMo got devices with harware keyboard. Witch is something the iOS does not have. I did not like to use my iPhone with wet fingers, same goes for most touch screens that i've used. However, that is not that big of an issue with a hardware keyboard.
You can also have widgets in android(You can also do this in WinMo if you download the right app for it. But I can't remember the name) I.e you can place a weather forecast on your desktop/lockscreen. On iOS however, you will have to click the apps icon, wait for the loading and then refresh to see the weather.
Same goes for the calendar.. In android I can see my appointments straight on the home screen.. However on the iOS I have to enter the Calendar app.
All in all, here is the way I would put my prefferences.
1. Android(A quite open platform. With the posibillity of adding widgets etc.)
2. WinMo 6.5+
3. iOS(I would really like to see some widgets.. atleast in the lock screen..)
I agree with ukon .
winmo is older, hence not as graphicly 'complete' if you'd like.
But it does not preform any slower than the iphone os doing the same tasks...
Winmo lets you to do anything you like, within reason... Everything mentioned above by another poster. Its not a restricted OS. Unlike the iphone os.
Android is in my opinion a lovely mix of the two.
flawless GUI, and its not restrictive.
I want a phone where I have total control: WM & Android.
NOT a phone that totally controls me: iOS
Nuff said.
phatmanxxl said:
I want a phone where I have total control: WM & Android.
NOT a phone that totally controls me: iOS
Nuff said.
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Well said!
ov2rey said:
what windows mobile can do that iphone cannot..
7th windows mobile more app.
sorry too many to add.. lazy
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Where are they hiding all those apps?
pkoper said:
Where are they hiding all those apps?
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On this little ol' think called t'interweb
Try Handango, MS Marketplace, XDA, google.
See, unlike Apple, MS don't dictate who can create and sell apps for their OS, and WM has a huge headstart on Apple.
It's not better, it just has a better marketing
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It's not better, it just has a better marketing
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Exactly.
In addition to all of the above, Steve Jobs has figured out that most people don't need complicated stuff, it's the "stupid simple and shiny interface" ratio to. "advanced fuctions". I really don't know if that's really good or bad and I guess to each his own. Sad tho that these different capabilities haven't so far put together. Maybe Android will accomplish that one day.
Oh, and the way iPhone has implemented video call is utterly rediculous. Or have they changed that restriction policy later or did someone hack it open?
hugomenezes said:
Any one can explain why Iphone can run graphics more smooth than WM?
I have HTC Touch HD and i test a lot of cooked roms and an official roms but it still slowly.
The hardware of Iphone is better than my HTC HD?
Regards
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I'm going to ignore the other posts in this topic. It seems too many are clouded by iOS hatred (I mean, "WinMo has more apps than iOS"? Really?).
As far as I know, there are a lot of factors that goes into why WinMo is not as 'smooth'/efficient as iOS. Among these factors are lack of proper GPU drivers (due to Qualcomm's licensing issues), lack of proper optimization due to multiple phone spec setup (iPhone hardware tends to be static and fully supported by Apple itself), and, perhaps most notably, Windows Mobile is a very old OS. It doesn't support a lot of modern tech in ARM CPUs.
The last reason is probably why Microsoft is finally deciding to drop Windows Mobile and develop Windows Phone.
But to get to the point, Apple doesn't have any of the issues above. iOS is modern, available on static hardware configurations, and, of course, Apple's micromanagement of its OS/app market is probably doing a lot to keep things efficient. Of course, this approach has its drawbacks too (as people here would probably love to tell), but the advantage is also obvious for the world to see.
answer the question topics. I think it smoother graphics on the iphone because the resolution is only 320x240 qvga while your touch hd is WVGA 480x800.
and it is certainly lighter os on iphone because it only displays a static icon in the menu. if you like static icons ,turn off htc sense and use titanium. or use shell menu such as spb. it'll fly
and for graphics in applications such as games. buy games from EA and Gameloft and i guarantee they run smoother than the iphone. for example Ferrari GT from gameloft. play using accelerometer on for both, you'll see which phone steer car easily
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Another quick reminder.
Such thread are usually shut, but i'm leting this be because so far it seems clean and productive, please don't turn it ugly.
Thanks
madnish30.
Hello xda staff i want to know if i can run windows xp/7 games on android
btw ive looked up the net a bit and here what i got
i was searching for running windows xp games on android
first ive came things like ue ur pc as a server (teamwiever kinda) but that requires a waste of energy
and doesnt runs as smooth as we want
then ive looked up a bit more and ive found windows emutors for android [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1465365]
but for me and general gamers we dont want to get other windows stuff we want to play games only
+ this method was still not smooth
than ive came up with an app that enables you to run windws 95 apps on android but still not xp [http://www.winulator.com]
than since we know android uses linux ive looked same thing for linux and ive came up with [http://www.winehq.org]
than i looked a version of vinehq on android and ive came up with this
[http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=8230]
than i found a guy that made it (on xda)
[http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1258506]
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but im not sure if i can run elder scrolls or age of empires kind games
so can any1 help me on that??
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Hello xda staff i want to know if i can run windows xp/7 games on android
btw ive looked up the net a bit and here what i got
but im not sure if i can run elder scrolls or age of empires kind games
so can any1 help me on that??
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No android cant run these games and it wont be able to do this in a couple of years. Today's hardware is too weak to emulate games made for x86 CPU's. It is possible to port these games to android but it means completely rewriting these games so it will never happen.
At this point in time I know of two apps that may help you, so long as you have a gaming PC capable of running whatever it is you want to run:
Kainy
Splashtop Gamepad THD (Tegra 3 devices only)
I haven't used either of them, so I can't attest as to how well they work or their worth. Neither run the games directly on your device, but streaming is where some believe the mobile gaming industry is headed (including Nvidia with their recently announced Project Shield).
I know up front that I'm probably going to get some 'you're a super noob' responses on this, but just entertain me. Deus Ex 1 is probably my favorite game of all time, and I know you can emulate other games (I have Zelda Ocarina of Time on a N 64 emulator), but has anyone tried to emulate PC games from around the 1999/2000 era? If you can't, is it a hardware limitation, or has no one just written any emulators for PC games with mobile OSs in mind? Call me a wishful thinker, but I just want to know if it would be possible and sorry for asking such a silly question. Also, no I didn't get my phone to play games, this idea just popped into my head. Thanks.
I would love to see this happen
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I wouldn't ever imagine there to be a PC emulator. Consoles just play a game from disk so emulation is simple. PC games install and we don't have a window registry environment here.
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I wouldn't ever imagine there to be a PC emulator. Consoles just play a game from disk so emulation is simple. PC games install and we don't have a window registry environment here.
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Wine is able to run Deus Ex in Linux distributions, and Android runs the Linux kernel. There was talk of bringing Wine to android about a year ago but nothing seems to have materialized.
That said, Deus Ex is available on OnLive, so you could always go that route. Or use Kainy.
I think we're years off a successful wine implementation. That's not the only challenge either. What about controls?
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There is a game from 1998 which is being ported to android - Half life. It runs on a custom build of GoldSRC engine called Xash3D.
Gay ****** said:
There is a game from 1998 which is being ported to android - Half life. It runs on a custom build of GoldSRC engine called Xash3D.
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Thats right, and thers also possible to run games like Diablo 2 or Heroes 3 on droid device, so why not DX1? It would be awesome.
Original DeusEx on Android
Original Half-Life port has been Successfully Implemented on the Android Platform as of this Current Writing! I already have it Running on my Nexus7 Tablet.
Now Speaking of Tablets, I now have Shield K1 Tablet from Amazon ($199) which is Pretty Good. I was thinking about playing with a Bluetooth Keyboard - Either Physical, or Virtually like a Phone. That would leave the Screen Clutter Free so you could enjoy the Games Visuals. If Half-Life 1 is possible, Certainly Original or Even the New Revision Mod for The Game Should be Feasible. What do you think? I use my phone for Lots of Stuff these days, why not with a Virtual Keyboard via Bluetooth like BluezIME? That Would be GREAT!!!:laugh:
Actually, if you'df like to play particularly 1998 full version of Deus Ex PC game as is on your Android mobile device, there is a simple way. Use ExaGear Strategies app and this instruction to set up and play this title - https://eltechs.com/deus-ex-pc-game-on-android/
I am looking for REAL emulator (NOT simulator) that can run iOS 3 or Windows Mobile 2003 apps on Windows.
Yes, I already did digging in google, finding a lot lists of "THE BEST TOP EMULATORS", but they are just fake articles with wrong information just to get visitors and earnings on their ads.
Years ago, I had Windows Mobile 2003 SE device from HTC.
I bought a game for it and played it a lot.
After years, I wanted to play it again, but it was only released for Windows Mobile (pre Windows Phone 7) and iOS 3+ devices.
Since I changed phone long time ago and I am not interested in having iPhone, I would like to play this game on Windows by using emulator.
The game title is Orions The Legend Of Wizards (or Orions 2 The Deckmasters).
I enjoyed it a lot, and I did not find any TCG or CCG similar in gameplay to it (I am already familiar with Magic The Gathering and others, but they are completely different in mechanics).
Windows Mobile.
Yes, I know there is Microsoft Device Emulator 3.
I downloaded it from official website with official OS images, but I have x64 bit operating system and I am getting the same error like other people on internet: "there are not seven pairs of xpvcom in system".
Yes, I downloaded x64 version of emulator and tried reinstall XPVCom solution which does not work like for other people too.
Yes, I read about using Virtual PC solution, so installing VPC, installing 32-bit OS in it, to use emulator in emulator - like others said, this is ridiculous and I am not going to do that.
Any other solutions?
iOS 3+.
Yes, there is a lot software, but they are not emulators like it is claimed, they are just similators.
I am looking for real emulator that is able to run iOS app.
Any solutions?
I know this forum is full of real geeks who understand technical topics very well.
Thanks for any help.