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Not sure has this been raised before but i searched and couldnt find any results so here it is
I normally can use my Atom exec for around 2-3 days per charge (stand by mode most of the time)
Yesterday I upgraded to the latest ROM. And installed new Pocket Plus Application and 2-3 other new softwares. After that, I only can use the phone for nearly a day per charge. (and i got nothing running on the background)
So im not sure that it is the ROM update (not likely) or the Pocket Plus theme software (most likely) or 2-3 other software that i just installed. I'll figure this out and let you know if i can confirm it. Just wanna know has anyone notice this problem? Might not only for the Atom or Atom exec?
And of course for those just bought an Atom or Atom Exec, the battery drains so fast might not a problem from the battery itself so don't rush out and get the new battery just yet (of course you can )
I have the similar problem
My battery on my O2 XDA Orbit would work for 2 days and after running some software on it, namely BatteryStatus it just dies within a day.. I set some overclock settings -247 MHz- and enabled talk timers.. Whats wrong here..
srramasu said:
My battery on my O2 XDA Orbit would work for 2 days and after running some software on it, namely BatteryStatus it just dies within a day.. I set some overclock settings -247 MHz- and enabled talk timers.. Whats wrong here..
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Found this posting of Jwright in on of the foura. It worked for me:
Everyone,
Just to let you all know...
Rechargeable batteries are prone to what is referred to as the "memory effect". What this means is that if a battery is repeatedly only partially discharged before recharging, the battery "forgets" that it has the capacity to further discharge all the way down. To illustrate: If you, on a regular basis, fully charge your battery and then use only 50% of its capacity before the next recharge, eventually the battery will become unaware of its extra 50% capacity which has remained unused. The battery will remain functional, but only at 50% of its original capacity.
The way to avoid the "memory effect" is to fully cycle (fully charge and then fully discharge) the battery at least once every two to three months. Simply leaving the device in the ON position and letting it run can discharge batteries completely. This will help insure your battery remains healthy. Once discharged, recharge the battery completely according to the manufacturer's instructions.
How I restored my HTC Universal battery
1. Fully charge the device with the "wall charger" not USB.
2. Put device into bootloader mode (backlight+power+reset) and run until device goes dead.
3. Charge the device completely with the “wall charger” not USB again.
4. Set screen brightness to MAX and turn off ALL power saving features.
5. Unplug the device from charger and run until completely dead again.
6. Repeat step 3, then restore custom screen brightness and power saving features.
7. Finished.
Some will say that this only applies to NiCad and NiMH batteries and that Li-Ion is exempt, but THIS IS NOT TRUE. Li-Ion batteries do suffer the memory effect! (Especially cheap batteries)
Just thought I would try and help....
be careful doing that, I've read about the wizard not charging after being left on until power failure
Most of my manuals say to plug the device in where ever possible (ie not totaly discharge). I have had a lot of device and the best advice i can give for improving overall battery life is to turn it off when you seep if you can, and if you get a lot of messages have a short time for the backlight to go off.
Also.. different versions of os seem to behave differently with regard to today screen messages. A today screen item is supposed to get a message from the os every 2 seconds while the today screen is visible (and non when its not). I have found that my dopod 838 pro sends these messages to the items regardless of whether the today screen is visible or not (under some circumstances). If something similar is happening to you the today pluggins could be doing a lot more than intended and draining the battery. I have an atom and this dose not happen on it, it could be the rom upgrade in combination with the pluggins.
hi there!
as mentionend by users in other threads, it seems that a high number of raphs have a draining battery issue - compareable to the bug in our kaisers about a year ago: batterystatus measures around 70/80 mA in sleepmode with all programs and tf3d closed - on a kaiser with custom rom was around 4mA (!!).
So please, dear chefs: Try to figure out how we can fix this one
Check out some kind of solution / a way to improve your battery uptime: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2770702&postcount=25
Update: Battery was sucked empty from 90% within 3-4 hours in the night (!!). No running programs. In the chart you can see the difference between loading with the 220V plug and the USB-cable (last part of the chart). Sometimes it looks as the device sucks more power than the usb loader can deliver -> battery will get empty even when plugged into the computer the whole day.
Looks as we really need a solution thus waiting for htc or cellproviders is useless :-(
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Update: Battery was sucked empty from 90% within 3-4 hours in the night (!!). No running programs. In the chart you can see the difference between loading with the 220V plug and the USB-cable (last part of the chart). Sometimes it looks as the device sucks more power than the usb loader can deliver -> battery will get empty even when plugged into the computer the whole day.
Looks as we really need a solution thus waiting for htc or cellproviders is useless :-(
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Can you check this? Start->Settings->System->Power. Make sure that the "When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC" is unchecked.
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Can you check this? Start->Settings->System->Power. Make sure that the "When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC" is unchecked.
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Of course it is unchecked - but thanks for the hint!
I still need to get over the shock that it took just 3-4h to ground the battery in standby without running programs oO
for me it helped a lot to improve battery life to set the setting 18.4 (energy saving) in diamond tweak...
pensador said:
for me it helped a lot to improve battery life to set the setting 18.4 (energy saving) in diamond tweak...
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I need to compare the tweaks but i enabled energysaving options with Advanced Config... - but I will give diamond tweak a try and even do a hardreset in order exclude 3rd party software for the power consumption...
ill report soon!
im having battery issues, too.
sometimes the phone gets unresponsive, really hot and battery drops 30-40% in ~1h minutes - without being used.
i love my touch pro, but ive got so many problems (crashes, hang ups, battery, broken screen thing, grey display with stripes, the list goes on and on...) that im considering to return it
So... small update of my findings:
My Raph(s):
R 1.02.25.19
G 52.23.25.1.7U
D 1.69.00.00
The power consumption usually never falls below 75mA. It goes up to usually 240mA, 700mA yes sometimes 1100mA. (Again: in standby!)
Comparison: on the kaiser it was around 4-12mA with Teijaks V5.
The following changes WONT affect this problem:
o disabling TF3D
o switching to GSM/GPRS only
o switching off persistent internet connection (e.g. exchange server) (!!!)
o kicking ALL not absolutely necessary backgroud processes step by step and measure between
Naively i thought that someone may be interested in that behaviour and called my provider t-mobile... ok, bad idea as they seem to have none knowledge about that devices at all.
But at least I got a number of their hardware-supporter / servicemen "Kapsch" who couldnt help me either but where kindly enough to pass me a number of HTC here in Europe.
The nice lady with basic knowledge about the devices as well as the language we were talking in came to the conclusion that the only solution would be to send the devices in via my provider.
Well, so they believe that exactly theese 3 raphaels here are the only ones to suffer from that power drain (hardresettet, blank installation, bla bla like above)... and sending them in (what means: dont see them again for a month or so and get them back in the same condition) would be THE solution.
Somehow i am pissed that i already sold the kaisers and wonder how it will be next week on a businesstravel with an unpowered TomTom outside the car and a phone which drains in a few hours in standby
(Sorry for whining around...)
Completely agree with some of your figures, however the highest i have ever seen is around 550mA. Usually after no data transfer i get it to drop to between 89 ~ 110mA. How are you measuring standby current? When in standby, how can the software measure the current? I only ask as like you, the lowest i have seen for current is 82mA, however this figure would give a max standbytime of around 16 hours. I have found that the TP in standby performs the same if not better then my old kaiser which, like you measured around 4mA in standby. From what i have seen, i can not measure a true standby current like i could on the kaiser.
I measured with CommMgrPro and batterystatus...
Measuring a "real" standby without changing the battery with an Ampere/Voltmeter is not easily possible i think... so i use CommMgrPro and accept its own usage as somekind of "Baseline".
Or - if you dont need a chart / history, i use the much smaller Batterystatus, disable TF3d to see the Homeplug and close all applications. With all apps closed i turn of the device, wait a minute or to be sure that it has gone sleeping, and wake it up. A few seconds after turning on the mW/mA measures will jump to the "standby" values due to its delay. Not 100% accurate but okay for comparison reasons...
Edit: Theese are my processes, the bold ones have been killed for testing purposes:
NK.EXE;0;0;\Windows\nk.exe;;2;FEFF002
filesys.exe;9760768;6286864;\Windows\filesys.exe;;14;FEEDCE6
device.exe;6602752;5714424;\Windows\device.exe;;218;FEB8F4A
cprog.exe;10567680;10227808;\Windows\cprog.exe;-n;12;2D93537A
SAPSettings.exe;114688;2944;\Windows\SAPSettings.exe;99;5;E9C7742
gwes.exe;4698112;4214840;\Windows\gwes.exe;30;35;E9B4566
shell32.exe;1724416;886584;\Windows\shell32.exe;50;21;CE70CBAA
services.exe;3035136;2127440;\Windows\services.exe;60;74;AEDD3EF2
connmgr.exe;409600;99152;\Windows\connmgr.exe;70;17;D8D06E6
Biotouch.exe;1024000;636792;\Windows\Biotouch.exe;;9;EF86C7DE
SDDaemon.exe;176128;28544;\Windows\SDDaemon.exe;;2;6DA68DBE
tmail.exe;352256;46256;\Windows\tmail.exe;-NoUI;6;ED2CCD36
OperaPreL.exe;24576;32;\Windows\OperaPreL.exe;;2;EC986A3E
Opera9.exe;159744;4256;\Windows\Opera9.exe;;1;C4FA06E
JBlendDaemon.exe;188416;65744;\Windows\JBlendDaemon.exe;;3;C595512
SIPGT_app.exe;1863680;1688032;\Windows\SIPGT_app.exe;;2;AC57D24E
My5MsgCenter.exe;180224;22016;\Windows\My5MsgCenter.exe;;5;C2CD412
myFavesService.exe;299008;132608;\Windows\myFavesService.exe;;2;AD8D0806
licht77 said:
I measured with CommMgrPro and batterystatus...
Measuring a "real" standby without changing the battery with an Ampere/Voltmeter is not easily possible i think... so i use CommMgrPro and accept its own usage as somekind of "Baseline".
Or - if you dont need a chart / history, i use the much smaller Batterystatus, disable TF3d to see the Homeplug and close all applications. With all apps closed i turn of the device, wait a minute or to be sure that it has gone sleeping, and wake it up. A few seconds after turning on the mW/mA measures will jump to the "standby" values due to its delay. Not 100% accurate but okay for comparison reasons...
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OK, this i could do on the kaiser, but not on the touch pro. Each time i turn the phone on, i see at least 82mA, which would only give a stnadby of 16 hours - but i can achieve 3 days, so clearly this is not the standby current.
3 days.. i can only dream of that That would mean that you got around 19mA drain in standby... how do u measure?
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3 days.. i can only dream of that That would mean that you got around 19mA drain in standby... how do u measure?
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Thats what i'm trying to say - i cant measure anything below 80mA when i turn the TP on, however it is obviously NOT the standby current as i can obtain 50mA with a dim backlight, plus get 3 days standby. When i state 3 days, thats with no usage!
I'm just trying to point out that what you think is the standby current, probably isn't and we all know that there are issues with the battery management on this phone.
Another example, i have had my phone of charge since 7am, made a couple of short calls, 5 mins of wap browsing, and its currently reporting 95%. If my standby current was 80mA, it would be down to 50% by now. However, assuming i continue to use the phone in this way, in theory i should get 160 hours, which indicates an average drain of 8mA.
I agree - of course you are right and measuring this way can - if anyhow - assist in relatively comparing two devices/ configs but not deliver absolut values of course.
With batterystatus it worked pretty well on the kaiser - and even on the raph i could see 3 or 4 times my beloved 4mA... but in 99% its around 80aH ind standby and around 300-400 in usage which seems plausible regarding my usage.
Nevertheless i had several times a "hardcore" drain where i must had (mathematically) around 400 during standby and maybe even more during worktime when plugged in via USB: It DISCHARGED what means that it used more power than USB could deliver
(usb charging settings correct)
If I dont get my callback from my provider today, then i will try an inofficial RadioRom this weekend...
In standby mode, all application should have been paused by the deviced, right? Then how can any application measure the power usage in standby mode?
some apps keep going. thats how you get messages
i can get 2days out of my phone with heavy usage
Brendo said:
some apps keep going. thats how you get messages
i can get 2days out of my phone with heavy usage
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That is because the OS send out events when something happens, thus waking up the device and letting the apps run.
For SMS, sim card receive message, sim card inform OS, OS wakes device up, OS send out events, app capture the events.
For alarms, OS wakes device up when the schedule reached, then send out events or start apps depending on the alarm.
So, device must wakes up before apps can do anything.
Some apps intercept the standby button (power button) and instead of letting the device goes to standby when pressed, just turns off the display. For TP, HTC has modified something (or loaded some apps) to make sure that when you are playing the music or listening to the radio, the power button just turn off the display instead of going to standby mode. If the device goes to standby mode, the device could never play any music.
So, if the battery benchmarking app you are using is able to measure the power consumption when the device goes to standby, I doubt it. It actually just turn off the display.
I seem to have fixed or at least drastically improved my battery. I was suffering major drainage with moderate to heavy use, after about 5 hours the power would go down from 100% to 10%. I have WiFi on permanently and do a lot of emailing and texting.
I drained the battery to 0% and with the phone off (not in standby) I charged it using the AC adaptor. With it fully charged and the button light on (glows when charging, solid on when charged) I turned the phone on and first time it said 88% charged?!?! But it lasted the whole day and even had a good 30+% left at the end.
Did it again, ran loads of apps and switched everything on until 0% battery. Charged over night with the phone off. Next day it said it had 95% charge when I switched it on and again it lasted all day with quite heavy usage.
Discharged it again that night and plugged it in, today it says 100% and I'm pretty sure it will last even longer.
I've also found that after doing this, if I don't use the phone and the screen is off, I can leave it for 4 hours and the battery percentage doesn't even go down 1%.... which is a bit unbelievable but happens.
PLeased to say, now this last gripe seems to be fixed..... this is by far the best smartphone I've owned or used and on the market. Great step up from the TYTN II and iPhone (nice toy but useless for email and destructive with exchange servers).
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I drained the battery to 0% and with the phone off (not in standby) I charged it using the AC adaptor. With it fully charged and the button light on (glows when charging, solid on when charged) I turned the phone on and first time it said 88% charged?!?! But it lasted the whole day and even had a good 30+% left at the end.
Did it again, ran loads of apps and switched everything on until 0% battery. Charged over night with the phone off. Next day it said it had 95% charge when I switched it on and again it lasted all day with quite heavy usage.
Discharged it again that night and plugged it in, today it says 100% and I'm pretty sure it will last even longer.
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True. Draining the battery completely really helps. I've done it about 3 times and now my device can reach 2 days of heavy use with 1 charge. When I bought it drained very fast and charge indications were way of. (1 hour charges would just increase charge level with 5-10%).
What also adds battery life ia disabling activesync in the notification queue. Use memmaid or a similar program. Go to the notification queue and disable the entry for repplog.exe with the comment "system time changed". Activesync will function normally when connected to a PC. Not sure about OTA exchange syncs though...
Hope this helped
Scott
Hi,
I've found that the Raphael battery stops charging when it gets warmer than 48 degrees Celsius. I discovered this because I am using WMWifiRouter all day at the office, and noticed that although I have the Raph connected to a 2000mA wall charger, the battery drained and device got down to 10%.
The trick is that I have to put the device in "standby" mode py pressing the power button. The screen goes off, but the device is still running. This resulted in a lower device / battery temperature, and the battery remained at 100% after 8 hours of usage with WMWifiRouter and connected to the wall charger.
I can contrast this to with my Kaiser, which didn't stop chraging the battery until about 65 degrees Celsius!!
Maybe that helps too.
-Z
Maybe this depends on the batterys but mine was having that problem of going dead at higher and higher % it started at 10 than 30 then 50 and up to 70 I think.
I've tested all the solutions in the wiki (yes the freezer too ) but with no improvements, then I did the opposite, instead of draining the battery fast I drained the battery slowly and when the Universal shuted off I pluged it to the electricity until it boots ok and the cpu returned to 0/1%, then take it from electric power again and wait until it goes dead again and did this over and over again until I reached the minimum battery of 9% i think. Great improvement since I was already looking for battery replacements... Then I charged it over night.
Conclusion I have the Universal alive for 3 consecutive days (and nights) now at 52% waiting to check when it dies again
By draining the battery slowly I mean no light in the screen, no running programs and universal in closed state, flight mode and just one thing to check if it was alive or not, play some music in WMP in repeat mode, when it stoped playing it was time to have a litte more eletric juice until I could boot it up and start the music playing again.
When I have the final results -> when the universal goes down I will post the solution in the wiki
Again this may depend on the batterys but since there are so many people buying new ones you maybe want to try this solution too.
Oh and by the way I solved an "other" problem while trying to solve this...
Besides the tests on the battery like freezing it over night, taking the power level pin etc, I've started to think it was a problem from the rom so I cleaned the Universal doing that "task 28" thing and the result was solving the problem that I was having with the battery status (now home screen plus plus) it was not getting the cpu using percentage when in the past it did. Now with the cleaning reg whatever It is showing again the cpu using %
I don't know if you use this but it has a cool functionality, posting the cpu using % at the top bar of your universal can tell you how much the universal is working all the time, enabling you to notice when it is working when it shouldn't, normally some stupid background program that didn't go off...
hi there. I have two same unis, and three batteries. two standard, one big capacity 3200mAh (personally I dont believe it have such capacity, it is some china crap). but all three had that issue (uni shut down when capacity still showing more as 30% or more %). tried to deplete the battery completely (when it wont boot, I put device to bootloader mode and wait untill died completelly). now it show again 0% on all three batteries. I dont want to say, that your method is bad . no, I am just a lucky one, where the "wiki" methods worked correctly. and I think it is also important sometime charge the battery completelly, not only for couple of minutes, but until you see green light. when you deplete the battery completelly to zero (it is never zero, electronics integrated on the batter doesnt allow that) charging to full take much more time as before.
powerdetect
one more thing, you can test, how much capacity your battery have. it is simple utility called power detect. you can find it in THIS thread or as attached file. just copy to device and run. the test will suspend itself after one hour, so set all settings as needed. it will automatically create file, where you can find all important information. before you use it first time, charge your battery to full.
Thank you for the reply, My battery still dies at 30% but no more at 70% and 50% and it lasts 3 days/nights in a row.
I tried the boot loader mode but it seemed it had a timeout, instead of dying from battery losse it died from some kind of time out :/ because I was still capable of juicing some more battery if i went again to boot loader...
I will check that app, thnks again
wat i did..
well my battery used to shut off at 95 above present...wat i did was drain the battery with a 12 volt motor, took me a complete day for it to discharge, then i put it in the freezer, was suppose to put it for one night but i actually forgot bout me putting the battery in the freezer n i remembered after 2 days. then i charged it which also took around 18 hours to charge now my batter shouts itself at 70% n i can listen to music for 1.5 hours. which is a lot from a battery which was shutting at 95%
This is not a guarantee of battery life extension or performance. These are merely steps (in most cases) to possibly help prolong and restore battery longevity.
First lets understand something about battery charging. The most common mistake is to overcharge a battery. While one is inclined to charge when they see the low battery message, overcharging is detrimental to the battery. This is not good for the life expectancy of your cell phone battery, especially if you are expecting longer life from your battery. Over charging heats the battery, and drains its life expectancy.
Second, it would appear that after flashing (ROM’s, Kernel’s etc.) multiple times, your battery might not hold a charge all that well. Trying these steps may help improve battery life.
> Turn the phone on. Plug in the charger (not the USB to computer) and charge completely> Disconnect the charger and turn off the phone> Once completely shut down, plug the charger back into the phone. Let the phone completely charge, while phone is off. In some cases the phone may give a tone when charged. You can check its status by touching the volume up or down> Once again unplug the phone from the charger> These next steps are curcial. 1.Turn the phone on (give it time to boot completely) 2. Power it off again. 3. Connect to the charger once again. 4. Let charge to full one more time. Unplug the phone!
In most cases, this procedure need only be done once. Remember turn off bluetooth, intranet and other applications when not in use. These accessories pu a tremendous drain on a cell phones battery life. This is why they should be turned off, when not in use.
The old battery recalibration trick?
tomween1 said:
This is not a guarantee of battery life extension or performance. These are merely steps (in most cases) to possibly help prolong and restore battery longevity.
First lets understand something about battery charging. The most common mistake is to overcharge a battery. While one is inclined to charge when they see the low battery message, overcharging is detrimental to the battery. This is not good for the life expectancy of your cell phone battery, especially if you are expecting longer life from your battery. Over charging heats the battery, and drains its life expectancy.
Second, it would appear that after flashing (ROM’s, Kernel’s etc.) multiple times, your battery might not hold a charge all that well. Trying these steps may help improve battery life.
> Turn the phone on. Plug in the charger (not the USB to computer) and charge completely> Disconnect the charger and turn off the phone> Once completely shut down, plug the charger back into the phone. Let the phone completely charge, while phone is off. In some cases the phone may give a tone when charged. You can check its status by touching the volume up or down> Once again unplug the phone from the charger> These next steps are curcial. 1.Turn the phone on (give it time to boot completely) 2. Power it off again. 3. Connect to the charger once again. 4. Let charge to full one more time. Unplug the phone!
In most cases, this procedure need only be done once. Remember turn off bluetooth, intranet and other applications when not in use. These accessories pu a tremendous drain on a cell phones battery life. This is why they should be turned off, when not in use.
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i feel like i do this every time i recharge my battery because every time i charge to 100% then turn it off and plug it in, it takes another 5 min to charge to 100 while its off. Literally, every time i bump charge it.
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Mhmm, an explanation of the bump charge. Been written here before, but eh. Maybe someone lost theirs. I lost my txt file with the instructions a while back lol.
The way I see it these instructions only help to provide a more accurate battery count. Whether the battery is displaying correctly or not, juice in the battery is juice in the battery. Nothing more nothing less. This whole battery issue is ridiculous.
I think it'd be a good idea to remove the battery icon from the notification bar all together.
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Whether the battery is displaying correctly or not, juice in the battery is juice in the battery. Nothing more nothing less. This whole battery issue is ridiculous.
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No. Your phone has software in it to detect how much battery life is left for a variety of reasons; it turns more battery-intense functionality off at 5%, the camera for instance, and keeps enough battery power so that it can run its shutdown procedure, instead of just dying and losing whatever's in memory at the time.
You also don't want your phone thinking that 19% battery is 1% and turning off or telling you to charge it, as charging a battery that isn't fully discharged is a great way to lose long-term battery life. Additionally, how much would it suck if your phone software thought that 75% was 100% and stopped charging? You could then be leaving for the day with 3/4 of your battery, thinking it was full.
There are plenty of reasons to want this to be as accurate as possible. Unless you just don't give a crap if your phone is usable or not
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No. Your phone has software in it to detect how much battery life is left for a variety of reasons; it turns more battery-intense functionality off at 5%, the camera for instance, and keeps enough battery power so that it can run its shutdown procedure, instead of just dying and losing whatever's in memory at the time.
You also don't want your phone thinking that 19% battery is 1% and turning off or telling you to charge it, as charging a battery that isn't fully discharged is a great way to lose long-term battery life. Additionally, how much would it suck if your phone software thought that 75% was 100% and stopped charging? You could then be leaving for the day with 3/4 of your battery, thinking it was full.
There are plenty of reasons to want this to be as accurate as possible. Unless you just don't give a crap if your phone is usable or not
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The "software" won't ever be off by more than 10%.
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...as charging a battery that isn't fully discharged is a great way to lose long-term battery life.
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Not true with lithium ion batteries. They don't have charge memory.
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The "software" won't ever be off by more than 10%.
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[citation needed]
I was having all kinds of issues with my battery draining too fast. I unplugged at 7:30AM and by 10:30AM it would be at 60%. I tried the bump charge and all that, but then I realized "It's the apps, stupid!" I started running a task killer after I unplugged it, and now I'm making it to noontime and I'm only down to 80%.
TLR: Keep your apps in check, they are what eat your battery.
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The "software" won't ever be off by more than 10%.
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A few days ago my phone shut off after draining the battery - before it shut off the battery was less than 1%. i let it sit for ten minutes or so then turned it on. - it showed 16%.
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i do this ALL the time!
If you are running a custom rom it is also good to delete the battery charge stats when booting back up after step 4. If you have CWM just boot into recovery, go to advanced, then clear battery stats.
There is a way to clear it if you don't have CWM, but I don't remember what it is and I think most people have CWM anyways.
I check my apps frequently. One day my weather widget was going nuts and was using GPS non stop. I pulled my phone out at lunch and the battery was in the yellow. Granted I haven't seen that happen again it has made me reconsider even using apps/ widgets with GPS
widgets kill battery. I had several pages of widgets and I had to wipe by phone, remarkable how much "better" the battery was after that. Weather widgets look great but it costs to run them.
majortool said:
widgets kill battery. I had several pages of widgets and I had to wipe by phone, remarkable how much "better" the battery was after that. Weather widgets look great but it costs to run them.
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I've a feeling it has less to do with the actual widget and more to do with their constant updating when there is a poor or nonexistant connection.
Sent from my custom ROM'd Captivate
BigJayDogg3 said:
I've a feeling it has less to do with the actual widget and more to do with their constant updating when there is a poor or nonexistant connection.
Sent from my custom ROM'd Captivate
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Don't download the anaimation sub-app. update on the hour (or 2) instead of 15 -30 min.
I would love some advice as a noob here. I've only had my Cappy for a little over 2 weeks. I've done the battery calibrate trick, but still don't see very good battery life. I unplugged from the charger at 100% at 10pm last night and left the phone on all night. Wifi and GPS were turned off. Beautiful Widgets is set to update weather every hour. The phone received 7 sms messages during the night. When the alarm went off at 6:30am I was at 70%. It's 10am now, so it's been off the charger for 12 hours. Here is what I show:
Voice Calls 34%
Cell Standby 23%
Phone Idle 16%
Display 15%
Android System 4%
Beautiful Widgets 3%
Android OS 3%
Android Core Apps 2%
antivirus 2%
Battery currently shows 51% left
I'm running stock Eclair JH7, build 1101
Would anyone suggest Advanced Task Killer or Juice Defender?
There are some good tips for prolonging and caring for your Battery here: (Can't post links, google search: site:arstechnica.com battery life ask ars)
However, cell phone batteries rarely run over $30 (I have seen capivate batteries as low as $13), if you just always fully charge it you will still see a good 8-12 months out of it, and then just buy a new one. $30 a year is worth it to me to just let the thing fully charge so that I can use it for longer.
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Would anyone suggest Advanced Task Killer or Juice Defender?
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PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL ANY OF THESE BEFORE READING
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/the-view-on-task-managers-for-android/
If you fully charge and run the battery, done several times, the battery will eventually run better. Surprisingly, there is a "break in" period for the battery.
I appreciate the advice on the task killers and such. I don't use one, and after reading that stuff, I won't. I pulled my phone off the charger yesterday at about 1pm. By the time I played some games, did some web browsing, made some calls and did some texting, it was still at 70% when I went to bed at around 10pm. This morning at 7am, I was shocked to find that it was still at 67%! I don't have a clue what was different. It typically hogs up 25-30% overnight, but this time it only did 3%. I wish I knew what was different. This is so weird!
Durability of a cell phone battery can easily be understood by just check a parameter........ mAh. You will find it on the battery level- such as 1000 mAh, 1200 mAh, 1500 mAh, 2100 mAh. The larger the rating, the longer is the battery life. Just check it on your cell phone battery.
Note- While buying a new battery for your old cell phone then you must check this unit to have long lasting/durable service.
If you have 2G, no Wifi, low brightness could also make your battery life last longer ^^
Calibrating the battery after flashing new roms will typically increase the battery life if you are experiencing issues. It simply removes the old battery stats to make the stats pertinent to your given rom.
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Buy an old nokia that is hard like a brick
no gadgets and stuff
the battarey can hold for the whole week maybe more!
Battery drain..
stavgayer said:
Buy an old nokia that is hard like a brick
no gadgets and stuff
the battarey can hold for the whole week maybe more!
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Try to don"t use your phone:silly:....or use juice defender....it works fine for me..
Irronically I have noticed certain battery aid apps actually killing my battery more, but simply avoid auto brightness and adjust it accordingly when inside or out, turn off wifi, bluetooth, and maybe some of your sync options, depending on your type of screen avoid using backgrounds with certain colors... ex Amoled's emeny is white as is most screens, if possible change the backgrounds in certain used apps to black such as messaging.
yes proper callibration is basic step/
Then use 2g network if 3g use is not much.....but if you have to do it as 3g, not as auto...coz it chews up more battery
Then diable wifi and bluetooth when not in use
avoid live wallpapers
You can use the slick power saving feature option by enabling it......
Decrease the brighness of screen as much as possible
screen lockout time to minimum pratical
stavgayer said:
Buy an old nokia that is hard like a brick
no gadgets and stuff
the battarey can hold for the whole week maybe more!
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Im selling my nokia 1616 :silly:
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Durability of a cell phone battery can easily be understood by just check a parameter........ mAh. You will find it on the battery level- such as 1000 mAh, 1200 mAh, 1500 mAh, 2100 mAh. The larger the rating, the longer is the battery life. Just check it on your cell phone battery.
Note- While buying a new battery for your old cell phone then you must check this unit to have long lasting/durable service.
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The mAh value isn't anywhere near as important as the way you use your phone. Theoretically my HD2 with a 1230 mAh battery could last a good week and a bit in airplane mode with no usage whatsoever, but that's a completely unrealistic scenario. I can always get a full day of usage out of it, and really I've never needed more. All I do to limit battery drain is use a custom ROM, JuiceDefender and SetCPU, and I get a 5mA drain on standby with WiFi on. To put that in perspective, my Mum's Desire S on a stock ROM gets 26mA drain in Airplane mode. Despite having a 1600 mAh battery (I think) the battery doesn't last much longer than mine, and even then it's only because she never uses her phone.
Slade Wilson said:
If you have 2G, no Wifi, low brightness could also make your battery life last longer ^^
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stavgayer said:
Buy an old nokia that is hard like a brick
no gadgets and stuff
the battarey can hold for the whole week maybe more!
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Yeah
Yes, use only 2g, low brightness, no animations, and most important, calibrating.
but with a good rom, what isnt the stock, u can use a batterysaver kernel governor, like savagedzen
If, after rooting or more likely that case after flashing a new rom, you often have battery reporting errors, and re-calibrating the battery along with some steps I will outline for you below will ensure that your battery is getting a full charge, and the battery reporting accuracy is right on. As far as power cycling, I don't know that it does much good. I run my device in performance mode all the time, and with a CPU overclock of 1.25GHz and various tweaks, I have about a day an a half to a day and a quarter of full runtime from my battery. This is with moderate to heavy usage (calls, emailing, text, gaming, web browsing, etc.) so you should have no problems getting acceptable battery performance after following these steps:
1. Take the case off your device (one of the latter steps involves taking the battery out from the phone while it's plugged in. Make sure your case won't stand in the way.)
2. Install Battery Calibration app from the market
3. Plug in your device to charge while it's on, wait till it gets to a 100%
4. When the charge is 100%, open the BatteryCalibration app and lookup what the charge is in MV while at 100%. Write it down.
My Atrix 2 was showing ~3400MV while at 100%, which is definitely not the maximum capacity.
5. Discharge your device completely until it shuts off.
A good way of doing this quickly is by turning on wifi, and a video player.
6. Without turning on the phone plug it into a wall charger and let it get to 100%
7. When it's at 100%, without unplugging it from the wall charger, take off the battery cover, and take the battery out.
Your phone will "reboot" and show a Missing Battery icon.
8. Without unplugging the phone from the wall charger or turning it on, put the battery back in and wait until the phone recognizes the battery.
9. Your battery should now be recognized by the phone, and showing a charge % significantly lower than 100%.
Mine showed only 5%.
10. Let it sit there charging for 2-3 hours (or more).
My phone wouldn't charge past 10%, but yours might. The numbers don't matter much as the phone is definitely getting additional charge that could have been lost while flashing ROMs, etc.
11. After 2-3 hours (or more), turn the phone on while holding the volume down button and get into CWM.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
12. Wipe battery stats in CWM, reboot.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
13. When the phone turns on, go into Battery Calibration app again and look up your MV numbers -if you were like me, they should be significantly higher than before. After this whole process I had 4351MV at 100%, comparing to 3400MV before calibration.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
14. Before going to sleep - Install Watchdog Task Manager Lite from the market. Go into it's preferences, set CPU threshhold to 20%, check "Include phone processes", check "Monitor phone processes", check "Display all phone processes", set system CPU threshhold to 20% as well.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
15. Make sure your wifi and data connections are off. Now finally unplug the phone from the charger.
Go to bed, let your phone sleep too.
16. Success! Next morning check where your battery % is at and if you followed the instructions correctly / got lucky like me, your battery life should be 90% or more.
I went to bed with 98% and woke up to 94%. So, I consider this mission a success.
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That seems like way too much work for me lol.
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