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I am experiancing some problems!
basically I think the manufacturer installed protective screen has come loose from the hard sensor (due to use?) and so the stylus is pushing on an air bubble, and with the software keyboard (virtual keyboard) the wrong buttons are getting pressed.
I dont know whether to cut out that layer with a scalpel (carefully) and use normal screen protectors that stick properly ... has anyone done this before?
Maybe you could apply heat to it to tighten it or something I dont know so I need help!
My phone is an alpine (xda2i) but other pdas must be having the same issue?
is it ok to cut the initial plastic screen that comes integrated with the xda?
Just make sure it is actually a protective screen and not the digitizer (the membrane that makes it touch screen and sits on the LCD) that your cutting away.
with a protective skin there should be no need to cut anything... I honestly think your talking about the digitizer - in which case take to a mobile phone specialist and they could heat sync it for you.
To check whether it is the digitizer or the crappy screen protector, you should be able to see the edge of the layer at the side, especially manufacturer orginial screen protector, they are really crappy. You should be able to seperate the layer (from the edge) with something pointy (e.g. a needle), and then peel it off from there.
If you didn't see any distinguishable edge at the edge of the screen, chances are you should not do anything yourself.
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Just make sure it is actually a protective screen and not the digitizer (the membrane that makes it touch screen and sits on the LCD) that your cutting away.
with a protective skin there should be no need to cut anything... I honestly think your talking about the digitizer - in which case take to a mobile phone specialist and they could heat sync it for you.
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Thanks for the responses!!!
I have a feeling that it is what you are referring to as a digitizer. Do most of the mobile phone shops do this heat option? as after googling it, not much comes up, or is it referred to under a different terminology,
thanks in advance!
Rob
If your UK based you can find out more about them from apex laptops, google them...
I'm in Edinburgh, and it took me a while before I found someone willing to replace the digitizer.
This is not a common thing - but I think with the introduction of the iphone the markets for heat syncing will go up, I suggest freeing up an afternoon and go to some of those dodgy shops that offer the unlocking service, also some computer repair shop technicians might be confident in doing something of this nature.
Happy hunting!...
JJ McG.
thanks for your help
whatever you do dont approach o2. they are ridiculous, they want to charge 350 dollars to peel off the old one and put a new on one. search ebay and you will find digitizres with screwdriver and peeling, firming tool for 15 dollars plus postage.
o2's repair guys say it "original" spares which make it so expensive....
right...........
rang up
rang up a couple of shops one doesn't do heat sync and the other does but the machines bust, he started talking about soldering etc...(does that sound like it?) but when i re-described the problem he started talking about 50 60 quid for a new screen! which I am not prepared to pay for the relatively minor problem
How is a digitiser different from a normal screen protector anyway?
(placing a normal protector on top of it sort of helped reduce the problems because it applied a little firmness over the offending area....)
O.k the digitizer is not a screen protector. The Digitizer is a membrane that sits atop the LCD.
Note: that the LCD is not a touch screen and the only thing making your device a touch sensitive is this digitizer
digitizers can be pricey, but the reason your guy is costing it at 50 - 60 quid is because he is the middle man and needs to make a profit. You can find digitizers from apex laptops or GPS midlands (links below) and buy them at trade prices
http://www.gpsmidlands.co.uk/index.php?menu=Home
http://www.apexlaptops.co.uk/touchscreens.htm
Dependant on your device will depend on the price.
My guy asked for 10 pounds to replace my screen, which I thought was more than reasonable because if he broke the LCD whilst replacing the digitizer (which he did) he was liable to replace it. Make sure that your guy will do this.
hope this helps.
after googling...
After googling for a bit, I came across someone who had these sort of problems with their own pda
http://jamescrisp.blogspot.com/2007/05/fixing-palm-treos-digitizer-touch.html
it seems that dirt stuck under the sides can cause the same kinds of problems,
after running a bit of paper under the corners of the screen I have found some interesting results, the problems I have have changed slightly and seem to rectify temporarily when I press down (rub down) on the screen...
so I might look at taking it apart with some tools off ebay or something and giving it a good clean... any recommendations on how to strip down and clean an Alpine....? actually I'll repost that in the aline forum if there isn't already a post there....
hope your confident in doing so - I'd take it to a shop if it pisses you off that much - taking it a part and cleaning might end up with you just having a big screen phone with no touch pad...
Up to you, hope your successful
I searched the forums and google and couldn't find an image similar to what is happening to my fuze.
So yesterday I noticed a problem with my fuze screen, and i don't know if i can't explain the problem or what, but at&t is convinced it's damaged and will charge me a bunch if i even try to send it in.
There are no cracks, scratches, whatever. (I wish i could take a pic, but the only cam i have is the phone)
The problem is that the surface of the screen (I think the soft touch screen top) seems to have a thin layer of 'something' in there. It is the same shape as the screen, centered, and about 70% of the screen's size. The effect is something like the shimmer/rainbow from a very thin layer of oil on water. (thin film interference?) Anyways, the touch screen still works, the lcd still works, the glass isn't cracked, and I have no idea what happened. I use a screen protector and am very protective of my baby.
I'm thinking I need to order a new digitizer and replace that? ($25 and some labor doesn't sound bad after talking to AT&T about what i would get charged if they decide it's physical damage)
I dunno, if anyone has experience with damage like this or at&t or replacing digitizers and has any words to help me, either with explaining what happened or what i should do, that would be much appreciated.
I had the EXACT same problem on my fuze. It looked like the layers of the screen began to seperate. AT&T scared me that they would charge me for this so I sent it directly to HTC and they replaced the screen at no cost to me...took about 2 weeks.
AT&T Warranty agents are trained to be cautious in regards to damage to devices as the mail program doesn't leave much(any) option once you send the phone back for the exchange. It's either no-damage/no-charge or damage/charged, after which you cannot go back on the exchange.
My advice is to see if there is a Device Support Center in your area.
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB91429
I went to one with my possibly damaged Fuze and they took a look at it and exchanged it without any "possible" charges jargon.
If that isn't an option, you could buy a pre-paid phone to use while you send it in to HTC as TheSopranos16 did for repair.
Good luck!
Sir, the problem you have is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439410
I only hope my xperia doesn't get it.
i have this same exact problem. its technically called a newton ring. att wanted $500 to fix it and the htc rep told me that whenever they encounter this they usualy dont cover under warenty because it is due to pressure on the screen and it would cost something like $300 to fix. so i basically said forget it and now im stuck with it.
this is whats going on. one night my screen was letting me select stuff just fine. the next morning i woke up and the screen was unresponsive. now the hardware keys do work just fine. now heres the the bad part. i figured that the issue was originally casued by my CFW so i did a hard reset.... unfortunally that wasnt the problem.i did knotice that when i do tap the screen when the backlight dims down it does brighten up. i donno if that helps. anyone have any ideas. oh and yes it an att phone. no i dont have warranty on it( i got them to upgade my phones that being said the phone went swimming in a hot tub a few months ago)
BUMP~!!!!!!!1
come on anyone have any suggestions???
My digitiser broke a couple of months ago, I had weird oily patterns under the screen that were only visible in some kinds of light (especially flourescent), and reduced sensitivity. Anyway, what I'm trying to say is maybe to check for those oily patterns if you're worried it could be the digitiser. I had to get a replacement on insurance though, so can't be much help with how to fix it.
yah its had an oily square on the screen that if u looked at the right angle ud see it that being said it wasnt to big. also that square was on there for almost 7-8 months and like i said when the digitiser went out it kinda worked the night before and then it stopped working the next morning
Sounds like it could be the digitiser then... If you're good with electronics, you could buy a new digitiser and try to replace it maybe? I'm a bit pants at stuff like that though, so just got a new one.
If you get it fixed, apparently the fault is caused by too much pressure on the screen, so keep it out of jeans pockets
A quick look on ebay shows one for £15 (about 25$ i think), comes with tools (well - a plastic scraper / pry & a t6 or t5 screwdriver) - no instructions with the auction - but if you check the wiki it has a dissasembly guide.
Changing the digitiser isnt for everyone - normally (well i found for my old Kaiser) there are ebay sellers who will supply & fit (for a small fee) the parts, ofc check their rating before you send your phone away! Or google for a repair shop close to home - i would estimate you shouldnt pay more than about $40-50 to have a digitiser supplied & fitted, quite possibly much less, depending on the shop of course.
so i dropped my phone just the outer glass broke the lcd is find i was wondering where i can get the cheepest replacement for that i realy dont know what the price goes for but id rather not spend 500 on a retail andriod phone. my upgrade is like 3 months
Report it broken, pay $90 for a replacement through Asurion. Cheaper than $500, y'know?
Sent from my FroyoEris
You need to google for a eris digitizer.
LMGTFY
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...fai=CMBq5koWzTNrsN46EygTEha3rCQAAAKoEBU_Q0wbi
i think u can get them for like 40+ dollars off ebay
If you don't mind the long shipping times, you can get a digitizer + the entire housing together for around $60 on ebay. Doesn't seem like a bad deal to me.
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Zombie post . . . sorry about that. Need to remember to look at dates before replying.
Palmbxr said:
so i dropped my phone just the outer glass broke the lcd is find i was wondering where i can get the cheepest replacement for that i realy dont know what the price goes for but id rather not spend 500 on a retail andriod phone. my upgrade is like 3 months
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I just replace mine, and is wasn't too bad. There is videos on YouTube about how to do it. It took me about an hour, and the part costs about 40 bucks. If you need any help with it, feel free to email me [email protected]
Aaron
you can get one @ 49usd
http://www.htcrepairparts.com/touch-screen-digitizer-for-htc-g5-eris-p-2727.html
Palmbxr said:
so i dropped my phone just the outer glass broke the lcd is find i was wondering where i can get the cheepest replacement for that i realy dont know what the price goes for but id rather not spend 500 on a retail andriod phone. my upgrade is like 3 months
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I'm going through the same thing. Amazon has some digitizers for about $40. I decided to spend the extra $20 and get this instead
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004F5CEDW
It's the whole casing. I didn't want to bother with stripping the digitzer off the frame which is glued on. With replacing the whole body, you just move the mainboard over and plug everything back in. At least this is my hope. I'll post here again when the thing actually arrives. I ordered it two weeks ago and it probably won't be here until mid March.
Good luck with whatever you decided to go with.
UPDATE. hmmm october was the post date. I guess this guy has long taken care of his problem
Are there any particular tools needed? I swear my other half is on a mission to destroy her phone. It'd be good to know how to do some of the possible DIY stuff.
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Are there any particular tools needed? I swear my other half is on a mission to destroy her phone. It'd be good to know how to do some of the possible DIY stuff.
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There's Youtube videos for disassembly. I haven't watched them myself, but I know they exist, so they probably tell you what tools you need there. From what I remember hearing, just some small torx screwdrivers, or maybe some small phillips, too, but don't quote me on those.
Here is a link to the teardown video I followed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHwm-32BI0w
The amazon link in my previous post is what I bought. It was the whole body. There are just screen replacements but I didn't want to mess with that because the digitizer is glued to the front piece. I didn't want to risk warping or breaking the front piece and completely screwing myself over. Anyway, what I bought came with the tools you need to perform the teardown and an extra screwdriver that was not needed.
I am glad I did this. However, it came with it's share of issues.
-The very top of my digitizer does not work. As a result, I can't pull down the notification bar. I can get to it through the menu button but it is annoying.
-I had to move the ear speaker and loudspeaker over. They were glued to some foam which was stuck/glued to the chassis. That foam absorbed the vibration. When my phone rings loud it is nasty because the speaker is bouncing around. I tried to cut some foam myself to replace what was stuck in the old case. It helped but it's not perfect.
-There are some rubber buffers? Isolators? Not sure what their called which also needed to be moved over form the old case.
-It took a month to ship to my house. After discovering these issues, I am kind've stuck with them because it would take a month to send the parts back and another month to get a replacement. By then I'll be due for a new phone.
So that's my experience of replacing the whole case.
Let me know if you have anymore questions.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
My pleasure. Glad to help out.
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To add to this, because I'm sure there are others out there like me who intend to use their Eris until it gets run over, dropped in lava, drawn, quartered, and defecated upon . . .
I ordered the same replacement housing and digitizer as mentioned above, and had 2 small problems:
The housing I got had a nut in it that came loose, so that one of the corners wasn't able to reassemble properly.
There was something different in the new housing that caused the proximity sensor to function incorrectly.
For #1, I just used some super glue to weld the nut into place. This appears to have worked OK, but I fear that the point is weakened now and I will need to be very gentle if I disassemble the phone again.
For #2, The problem was that the housing was allowing bleed through inside the case from the proximity flasher to the light sensor, which caused the sensor to determine that there was something close to it when in fact there wasn't. I placed a small (oh so small) piece of electrical tape into the housing between where the IR flasher and sensor are located, and the problem was resolved.
If presented with the option of purchasing a new digitizer alone, or a new digitizer and housing together, follow groovel76's suggestion; it's well worth the time and money to go with the latter. The hassle of cleaning the old adhesive off of the new housing, and the risks of getting new adhesive in places where you don't want it far outweigh the cost of just getting a housing with adhesive pre-applied. I tried to do just a digitizer first, and ended up with a small amount of super glue (DO NOT RECOMMEND) getting on the new screen and the edge of the housing, as well as a screen that didn't seat properly because I didn't get quite all of the old bits out of the old housing. This resulted in dust getting under the screen and another crack when I attempted to fix what I'd screwed up the first time.
Between the availability of parts and ROMs for this phone, I see it being in my family for a LONG time yet.
Yes! Buy a digitizer online (most come with the tools you need such as the torx screwdrivers, mine did) and search for videos on youtube. That's what I did and it only cost me $37 for the digitizer and about 30 minutes of my time. And it worked perfectly as new when I got it all back together.
I managed to break the screen on my Optimus 3d last night, not sure if it was dropped or ran over. I found it face down in my driveway this morning and to my horror when I flipped it over the screen was completely smashed, however the phone is still working fine, minus the never ending ghost call issue.
What make the situation worse is Rogers just sent me out a replacement phone yesterday and I have to send this one back, in the next couple days.
So I called a repair centre and they wanted $190 to repair the phone, and stated they would need to replace the LCD and the glass screen. I know there is nothing wrong with the LCD screen, phone functions and all colours are good, just has broken glass.
My question is, can I repair just the glass without replacing the LCD? I have found the screen for around $30 on ebay. Based on watching the how to on youtube it doesn't look like too difficult of a job.
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I managed to break the screen on my Optimus 3d last night, not sure if it was dropped or ran over. I found it face down in my driveway this morning and to my horror when I flipped it over the screen was completely smashed, however the phone is still working fine, minus the never ending ghost call issue.
What make the situation worse is Rogers just sent me out a replacement phone yesterday and I have to send this one back, in the next couple days.
So I called a repair centre and they wanted $190 to repair the phone, and stated they would need to replace the LCD and the glass screen. I know there is nothing wrong with the LCD screen, phone functions and all colours are good, just has broken glass.
My question is, can I repair just the glass without replacing the LCD? I have found the screen for around $30 on ebay. Based on watching the how to on youtube it doesn't look like too difficult of a job.
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First of all , this was asked before. Read the forum. I know because i asked that question.
Check here ;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021232&highlight=screen
and here ;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971226
Carefully read them , especially my posts because i did it.
Where are you from and how fast can you get the replacements off ebay ?
When you get them it'll take about half an hour to fix it.
Nobody will notice unless there's damage to the LCD.
If it has we'll have to change it too.
I can guide you via Skype video calling.
Ok so I have managed to remove the broken screen, it was actually fairly easy my only concern is the part show at the 7:00 minute mark of the video below, was broken when I removed it. The copper tape strip (or whatever it is) is still in tact. Where can I purchase this part? I still have all the pieces and if worst comes to worst I will attempt to very carefully assemble the phone with the broken parts to see if the phone still functions. I'm assuming this is part of what operates the home, search, back and menu buttons.
I have already removed the glue and am going to pick up a new screen from London shortly. I had some adhesive remover and work in a glass shop so I have all the tools and cleaners to ensure my new screen sticks and fits nicely.
After reading the thread you linked I am wondering if the screen they sell in London will will include the outside casing, this would solve all of my problems. I guess I will know soon enough, heading to London now. I will let you guys know how I made out.
Heey if you look on youtube you find couple of videos its not very difficult i did it with a friend of my it takes 20 minutes be carful ^^
Goodluck
You can make do without a front case if you know what you're doing. I lacked equipment so i used alternative methods like shoe glue or blowdryer (which killed the original digitizer)...
No matter what you do they'll recognize if you don't buy it with a front casing though... (Already glued preferably)
I found it in turkey so i don't think you can't find it in london , resources are vast there...
Look around.
Remove the digitizer and check the lcd before heading to london if need be buy it as well.
If you need help you know where to find me...
Cheers!
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Ok so I got the new screen installed and everything is working great. I purchased some 3m adhesive at the repair shop which made for a very clean replacement after removing all the old glue with some adhesive remover. Decided to grab a LCD for my brothers LG970 while I was there and repaired it as well.
New phone arrived yesterday evening, so I will be sending this one back this afternoon. The screen replacement is very clean so I'm not concerned about that but I did manage to lose the little speaker cover from the front of the phone, I just plan on telling Rogers it fell of at some point if they ask about it. Considering the phone is in working order with no physical damage besides wear and tear I don't expect an issue from Rogers.
By the way anyone want to purchase the brand new Optimus3d Rogers sent me? Not even taking this one out of the box, selling it and getting the as far away from LG phones as I can.
Thanks for all the help guys.
I could think about buying it but you need to disassemble it and wrap the parts good.
In Turkey it's illegal to buy phones from foreign countries but it's not if you buy not working parts.
So in short i'm gonna con them into thinking it's for parts if you're up to it. PM me the price in your head.
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I have sent you a pm. At least I believe I have I don't actually see the message in my sent items list.