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rite theres a massive annoyin problem im having at the moment
at first i thought it was hard neways
basiclly what happens is when i type on the keypad i get this wierd problem where the spacebar dont work i mean i press it but it dont work AT TIMES
and i just get text like this il give an example
"heysh ows it going"
its really annoyin
i was looking at the keyboard fixes however theyre to remap buttons to symbols so i dont know
has anyone else had this problem
im running on HTC 6.1 3.03.405.0
Radio 1.64.06.04

shaji007 said:
rite theres a massive annoyin problem im having at the moment
at first i thought it was hard neways
basiclly what happens is when i type on the keypad i get this wierd problem where the spacebar dont work i mean i press it but it dont work AT TIMES
and i just get text like this il give an example
"heysh ows it going"
its really annoyin
i was looking at the keyboard fixes however theyre to remap buttons to symbols so i dont know
has anyone else had this problem
im running on HTC 6.1 3.03.405.0
Radio 1.64.06.04
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No Offense to you just want to drive this home to anyone reading....
DISABLE XT9!!

I was having the same problem. I was using one of dutty's roms. I switched over to sleuth v3.0. and its gone.. I figure the anti-aliasing on the fonts had something to do with it. i could be wrong. But its gone now

i'm having this problem with dutty's 4-29 rom...i don't have TX9 enabled and i agree it IS annoying!

I just posted something over here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391708&page=16 on what i believe you may be speaking about. I believe its a bug with the att 6.1 roms. Its seems many people havent really noticed it yet, and it gets really annoying when trying to text. I purposely didnt cook with this rom to see if the bug was fixed, but it seems apparent that its not!

JimmyMcGee said:
No Offense to you just want to drive this home to anyone reading....
DISABLE XT9!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=63520&d=1198925369

frustrating
Dayum, i just don't get it!!! so far with every 6.1(including the latest at the time of this post [06152008] ATT 19214 build with 1.65.20.29 radio) rom ive tested, the same glitch surfaces. I don't wanna hear anything about disabling XT9 because it is not the issue. The best way to see this error is to do this test: 1)open the messaging app as if your going to text someone 2)place the cursor in the texting field, change the sip to "letter Recongnizer" 3) now with your stylus, sweep going across only in the lower case "abc" field, going about 2 or 3 sweep a sec(as if your spacing in a text msg). while doing this you will noticed occasionally a line that will strike down similar to lightning! I believe this same thing happens when texting on the soft kb but you just cant see it! This error is a PITA, because it causes alot of misspells when using any other 3rd party sip or the soft kb! Can some of you guru's out there please help with a solution? Thanks!

i have the same space bar issue but i thought that it was hardware not software. also it seems as if my delete key is supper sensitive if i touch a button near the delete key it deletes damn near the whole word. it's really annoying. I have NEVER dropped my phone or anything and i have the t9 disabled.

hnic8705 said:
i have the same space bar issue but i thought that it was hardware not software. also it seems as if my delete key is supper sensitive if i touch a button near the delete key it deletes damn near the whole word. it's really annoying. I have NEVER dropped my phone or anything and i have the t9 disabled.
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The issue you described is not really what im speaking about. Basically it can go unnoticed while texting someone, especially if you text quickly, you would think that your accidentally pressing the wrong letters when actually its a glitch thats registering the wrong presses. For example; if im texting with the soft kb or the htc keyboard app, occasionally when i press "a" it'll register the press as if im pressing the left soft key or another letter directly below it, and this happens randomly with different letters and different presses! I've only ran into this error with 6.1 roms only, so far i have never experienced this with any of the 6.0 roms. Also, I'm only speaking about the soft kb or any 3rd party sips, The hardware keyboard works fine!

I really thought it was me typing wrong, although that's quite odd as I was txting without a problem before....
and I have two problems from the keyboard using dutty's rom:
"space key is somewhat lagging"
and,
the 'backspace' key sometimes got stuck in acting as a 'delete' key which is quite annoying. I have checked and it doesn't matter the 'Fn' is enabled or disabled, it just work as 'delete' until I soft reset it.

endiz said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=63520&d=1198925369
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...0&d=1198925369
WORKED LIKE A CHAMP!!! thanks!

Fuze: adjust 4-way rocker sensitivity (going "back" constantly)?

New Fuze user and new user to WM in general. I like the device, but it's been a bit overwhelming trying to get things together and tweaking it.
My biggest gripe right now is the sensitivity of the 4 way directional pad. Up and down work pretty well, but left and right are tricky to hit and I usually wind up going home, canceling, or going back. It's quite frustrating and I'd much rather use the directional pad than peck on the touchscreen in many situations.
I'm a bit befuddled: is navigation via the directional pad touch sensitive or is it a physical button? Is there anyway to adjust the sensitivities or sensor zones/regions so as not to accidentally hit one of other hardware buttons?
Thanks.

Got the same issue. The up / down navigation works fine, but left and right is just horrible. It would almost be better if you could use the touch sensitive part, rather than having to press the buttons fully down.

yup its a problem on all i think

lbhocky19 said:
yup its a problem on all i think
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Wow, how did this get pass R&D and QA? The lack of responsive and accurate left/right keys is abysmal (makes me unable to use Calendar). I sure hope there will be some remedy ....

Yeah, I agree, the d-pad is sorely lacking. It seems to be getting a little easier as I get accustomed to it, but the d-pad from my 8525 was much better.

I agree 100%. And like vexingv said, this is particularly annoying in the calendar application. The D pad on my 8525 was far easier to use.

And all this time i thought i just kept messing up. I have the same problem also.

calendar is where the problem really does shine

This is the WORST part about this new phone redesign. It's almost as if MARKETING came up with this idea than actual engineers.
I wonder if we can just cut the surface so we get the d-pad left-right back and so it's not shared with other buttons.
Thanks a lot HTC! You now have THREE buttons that do the same thing instead of 2 last time on the Kaiser:
Home goes back to Home
Back (formerly OK), goes back to home anyways
Hangup goes back to Home anyways already!
So hitting left or right you have 66% of it going straight back to HOME.
Then, you take away the scroll-wheel capability and replace it with rocker buttons for volume that only do that and nothing else.
Genius by HTC.

NuShrike said:
This is the WORST part about this new phone redesign. It's almost as if MARKETING came up with this idea than actual engineers.
I wonder if we can just cut the surface so we get the d-pad left-right back and so it's not shared with other buttons.
Thanks a lot HTC! You now have THREE buttons that do the same thing instead of 2 last time on the Kaiser:
Home goes back to Home
Back (formerly OK), goes back to home anyways
Hangup goes back to Home anyways already!
So hitting left or right you have 66% of it going straight back to HOME.
Then, you take away the scroll-wheel capability and replace it with rocker buttons for volume that only do that and nothing else.
Genius by HTC.
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Well, the scroll wheel does work, but its ability is to zoom/decrease the text size, which for most intents and purposes is a waste.
For clarification, is the directional rocker currently touch-sensitive or is there a physical button that is being depressed (albeit poorly).
If this keeps up, how about mapping some of the other 4 hardware buttons to provide some L/R functionality?

Okay guys. Here is the weird crazy part. I had the same problem, I just flashed the original stock att rom back (Well, tried to freeze in the middle to return ) but I had the att rom on it, I tried to re-install via the microSD card, and after it went through all the customization, I was so suprised that the left and right were working, it blew me away. I was like, "wdf? Is this the same phone." I have no idea what happened, but they seem more responsive. No tricks. At first I thought it was just me, but I started to use it more and more and it was working much better than before. No idea what fixed it, but I'm a happy camper

Here's some pictures of a guy who dropped it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2904011&postcount=1
Looks like distinct buttons. We just need to keep the face plate from sharing the presses.

Stock rom here... Moving 'left' seems to work okay but 'right' either hits Call End or Back. And here I thought I was doing something wrong.

NuShrike said:
Here's some pictures of a guy who dropped it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2904011&postcount=1
Looks like distinct buttons. We just need to keep the face plate from sharing the presses.
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Seriously! Whose idea was it to make all those buttons into 1 face plate! stupid idiot designer. At least they could've separated the d-pad somehow, maybe a very precise circle.

Yeah with the new excitement with touch interfaces, HTC seemed to have left their minds/brains elsewhere. But judging from the pictures in the linked thread above, it seems like none of the 4 directions have physical buttons.

Count me in on this problem...
For the Calendar I just open the keyboard and use that D-pad on the bottom right.
SOLUTIONS...
I propose someone should create software to do 1 of 2 things:
1) Use the G-sensor to control scrolling. This function would be activated by touching, not pressing/clicking, the center of D-pad. Similar to how you focus the camera. This action would activate the software thus allowing scrolling in all 4 directions by tilting the device.
2) Change the input so we only have to Touch the D-pad (like how we zoom in on pictures/Opera) to move in the desired direction.
So who's up to the challenge of developing some software to make this happen? I will gladly donate $$$ as the D-pad is the ONLY thing I dislike about the Fuze/Touch Pro.

it took me 10 days to realize how to left and right buttons work (sprint).

Hmm...maybe the designers/engineers meant for BOTH hardware buttons on either side to be depressed nearly simultaneously in order to register navigation to either the left or right?
Eg.: Placing the tip of my right thumb parallel with the end the bottom of the phone between the two hardware buttons (farther away from the D-pad than one normally would) such that both buttons depressed, I was able to get much better accuracy navigating to the right. Can get the same response on the left side, but it's not as feasible due to the awkward positioning of the hands/fingers.

I got tired of this problem before so I used G-controller. It works.
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The buttons are both touch-sensitive and physical buttons. The problem is if your thumb is touching any of the big buttons, it will prefer that over the directional click. Add to that the fact that the area the phone considers to be part of the non-directional buttons is much bigger than what it considers to be the directional buttons and it is a problem.
I wish people would stop following Steve Jobs's design ideas. Fewer buttons does not a better product make.

Keyboard Key ID problems

Hello everyone,
I have a problem with my Fuze when I try mapping a specific key in a program and it doesn't sense the proper key that I pressed. I noticed this in a couple of programs (not just games) so I downloaded a bunch of games just to test this out. In almost all games, I noticed that the arrow keys and some of the special keys are mappable, but all the alphabet keys are not. No matter which one I choose, none of the game or programs recognize the difference in keys. They either don't see em or give them the same Key ID.
Worse yet, the mappable special keys still launch programs in the background killing whatever I am doing. This is infinitely annoying. I did not flash a custom ROM. I am using the latest HTC FUZE rom from their website. The only thing I did different was I soft reset during ROM loading to kill the bloatware. Everything else runs correctly. It's not a hardware problem; all my text are fine; no issues with the FUZE seeing the different key strokes. I have no issues texting. It definitely seems like the Fuze keeps the same key ID for all of the same types of keys allowing them not to be mapped.
Is this a problem with the ROM (HTC May 2009)? Would using NRG latest ROM fix this? Should I go back to AT&T's latest ROM (AT&T April 2009 I think)? Please anyone that knows about this please let me know if you are experiencing this and how to fix. Thank you.
I am sorry if this is not the right place or if I am not posting in the right section, but I searched this forum/internet for hours and I am totally out of ideas. I downloaded a couple of programs, but they only changed the layout to flash non-Fuze ROMS etc. This is one of my first posts, so I apologize. This site is awesome.
Thanks,
nwdst

More info
I have looked into the wiki a bit before, but I dove back in so I can't be blamed for not reading it. I noticed the following two under tips:
#1
Keyboard Patch (For users with an AT&T Fuze)
File Can be found Here
#2
Start Menu and OK Buttons on the H/W Keyboard
If you would like to add custom keys (including Start and OK buttons) see here for customizing the Touch Pro Keyboard: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424905 (Post #7 and #12)
For #1, what does the patch do? When I click on it it gives me the cab; but I don't know anything more about. What is the "Patch"?
For #2, I understand that you can map the the OK and start keys, but do I need to remap every key on the board? I still want the keys to do what they do just not when I run a certain program. Can a program do this for me?

1. The patch fixes a non AT&T TouchPro keyboard to function on an AT&T Fuze as they have different mappings.
2. Hardware keys can be mapped but not for specific functions within specific programs.

Thanks
Ok. I will not install the patch.
I understand that you can remap keys but I still don't understand why the key ID under most programs still remains the same for all alpha characters on my keyboard. Is this the same case for anyone with a cooked or At&t rom? I have latest HTC Rom.

ANYWAY TO REMOVE THE XT9/ABC button??

I'm just about getting used to the HD2 keyboard but one major annoyance for me is that button to switch between T9/ABC.
I CONSTANTLY catch it with my thumb as it is placed in a really stupid position right next to the 'A' button. Is there any way someone could tweak the default keyboard so that t9 is an option in the MENU rather than a button?? I rarely need to switch between them and I fail to see why ANYONE needs a 'convenient' switch to catch inadvertently as most people either use T9 or DON'T use it, without switching between it.....things like the searchbar automatically switch it off anyway.
To my mind it is a stupid button and often I catch it unknowingly and type a load of gobbledeegook before I even realise.
Anyone else suffering the same annoyance? I'm considering testing out a different HTC keyboard, like perhaps the Diamond 2 one if they don't have this annoying button on them.

It's been asked before mate, and the usual advice is to try a 3rd party keyboard.
Fingerkeyboard was developed by a fellow xda user, and that's not too dissimilar to the HTC one, but it has extras.
Maybe try that instead?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487677
The above link takes you to an old version that's been discontinued, but it has pics on it so you can see what it looks like. There's a link there to the latest version.
Hope this helps

i too have the same problem, tried fingerkeyboard, but i feel the standard keyboard to be more accurate [larger button], i actually like fingerkeyboard layout but i always have more errors than standard keyboard.
one thing i don't like with standard keyboard is the XT9 button. is there a way to remove or disable that button? reg tweak maybe?

maybe this?

leoni1980 said:
I'm just about getting used to the HD2 keyboard but one major annoyance for me is that button to switch between T9/ABC.
I CONSTANTLY catch it with my thumb as it is placed in a really stupid position right next to the 'A' button. Is there any way someone could tweak the default keyboard so that t9 is an option in the MENU rather than a button?? I rarely need to switch between them and I fail to see why ANYONE needs a 'convenient' switch to catch inadvertently as most people either use T9 or DON'T use it, without switching between it.....things like the searchbar automatically switch it off anyway.
To my mind it is a stupid button and often I catch it unknowingly and type a load of gobbledeegook before I even realise.
Anyone else suffering the same annoyance? I'm considering testing out a different HTC keyboard, like perhaps the Diamond 2 one if they don't have this annoying button on them.
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Disable or try VNkeyB 2.2 with some skin......:

[Q] Hardware buttons went crazy!

Hello!
I'm experiencing some problems with my o2 Touch Pro.
Hardware buttons on the bottom of the phone (d-pad, home, back, call, end call) are not working properly (they work fine only 20% of the time, it's random i guess).
When i press "call" button, device responds as if i pressed the "left" button. It's very annoying. The circle used to zoom in, and out around the "enter" button is problematic as well. It zooms - but but in a very chatoic way - a bit of of zoom in, then zoom out, another zoom in. Functions are just messed up.
Another time, it's all working...
How can i fix it? Is it a hardware problem?
I'm using the Energy Rom - titanium version.
Thanks for your help in advance...

Honestly, if you can't deal with it, get another device. Either that or stick with the stock ROM, less problematic (you can also keep the full function of the d-pad) but then again it may introduce other issues. Someone mentioned this being more a hardware than a software issue. Since I cannot reproduce this on my at&t Fuze, that is all I can suggest on my end.

I get some of that with my fuze; mostly, the d-pad doesn't read gestures properly. If I run compact heaps (from sk tools) periodically, it helps. Soft resetting obviously helps as well. I think it's more of a hardware issue. My problems have definitely gotten worse over time. You can also check out this tool (from an HTC test rom dump; can't remember where I got it). It's a debugger for the d-pad. At least you can see how accurately the button presses and gestures work.

Thanks.