Hi there, I recently (lastnight) bricked my brothers Orange locked kaiser trying to unlock it. lol.... it was stuck on the bootloader menu without hard spl installed I seriously thought I'd killed it.. After 7/8 hours google scouring I found the original 6.1 kaiser rom from orange which has cured my problem of it being bricked.. but not the unlock!!
My advice.. Obtain a cheap unlock code rather than trying the hacking method cause it gets you no-where unless you're an uber hacker and modder and have 7/8 hours to kill after bricking your phone!
(just for reference issues, i had wm6 running on it at stock)
Hmmm.... just because you don't have the skills... no offense but you don't seem to have them, it does not mean that others don't. And scaring noobies away from trying the process in order to attain the skills is just wrong. I did it and I am not an uber-guru at this. I JUST READ ALL THE FAQs. You obviously did not or couldn't follow the script. So please, do obtain your cheap unlock code instead of doing something that gives you some experience and is free.
Advising a bunch of hackers (that's what we all are here) not to use the hacking method and to pay for it instead is a lost cause. If we wanted to pay for it, we* wouldn't have invested time and effort developing the free ones.
Sorry to say this but, most of the people who have problems with these methods fail to read / understand the instructions.
Thread closed, as it is not related to ROM development, and is just going to cause arguements more than anything else.
P.S. A bricked phone is un-recoverable, anything else is just a minor set back.
Dave
*by "we", I mean the real hackers, Olipro, pof, cmonex, des, jockyw2001, etc. - I personally wasn't involved
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i am getting an 8125 next week from somebody who was a cingular customer. he got the factory unlock code from a cingular rep (but he cant unlock it cuz he doesnt have a different carriers sim card). is there any difference if i use that to unlock it or if i use the lokiwiz program i keep reading about??
also, as you can probly tell im new to pda's. to load the window mobile 6 would i have to unlock the CID (which im not even sure what it is)? what are the benefits for using wm6 and is it fully functional on the 8125 (ive read a few posts from ppl that say they have problems). i also saw a thread for making an i-phone skin...is it possible to have both wm6 and this iphone skin? also, can anyone explian what this aku2 rom is?
sorry to make this post, but there are so many threads about the stuff i am inquiring about and hundreds of pages and its just too long to go thru. if anybody can help me out that would be appreciated...thanks a bunch!!!
Other than to say you need to read some of the sticky's in the WM6 forum, as well as the Wiki's - here's a few hints:
If you have a G3 - get it CID unlocked. If it's a G4, you can leave it locked and still flash WM6 just fine - if you use shelltool.
WM6 is mostly cool factor, with a few new features. How many people can say they're running WM6? Bleeding edge, baby, but it ain't without some pain.
iPhone skin - yes, and good luck. I tried it, and it was a slow pig - it looked alot like the iPhone, but not worth the bling. Try driving your car with a painted tarp on it. yeah, right. Can barely open the doors.
As for aku2, no idea. Hit search and check it out.
You got lots of reading ahead of you. I spent 10 hours reading before my first attempt at flashing - and I'm a fast reader.
yea im doing a lotta reading....where is the link to the wm6? i cant seem to find it!
check my sig for all unlocking problems...once you do that worry about WM6..Just check out a section and read up on the roms
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yea im doing a lotta reading....where is the link to the wm6? i cant seem to find it!
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Don't learn by flashing. Learn by reading. $400 is a lot of jack to waste trying to learn by experience.
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i am getting an 8125 next week from somebody who was a cingular customer. he got the factory unlock code from a cingular rep (but he cant unlock it cuz he doesnt have a different carriers sim card). is there any difference if i use that to unlock it or if i use the lokiwiz program i keep reading about??
also, as you can probly tell im new to pda's. to load the window mobile 6 would i have to unlock the CID (which im not even sure what it is)? what are the benefits for using wm6 and is it fully functional on the 8125 (ive read a few posts from ppl that say they have problems). i also saw a thread for making an i-phone skin...is it possible to have both wm6 and this iphone skin? also, can anyone explian what this aku2 rom is?
sorry to make this post, but there are so many threads about the stuff i am inquiring about and hundreds of pages and its just too long to go thru. if anybody can help me out that would be appreciated...thanks a bunch!!!
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You can't use it with the cingular sim card beause you don't need it!
You have to borrow a sim card other than your carrier's sim card to apply the code. Once applied, the sim portion of your cell is unlocked for life if you have the right code.
Lockwiz will CID unlock your phone as well. Once successfull with this portion, you can install any ROM or Custom ROM....designed for your TYPE of device.
You are currently running an AKU2 ROM.
Based on your line of questioning, you have a WHOLE lot of reading to do. You sound like you're on your way to be stuck in bootloader mode.
Do your reading 1st, collect all your tools and all you need can be found by you doing the research in the threads. All the answers to your questions are in the WIKI....it's your friend.
This was a freebee....if you're not willing to go thru the hundreds of threads, as you stated to get the answer....use the search tool or stay with your factory ROM.
Remember: This is a Developer's Forum, not a USER's Forum
This thread you created was a waste!
no pain ... no gain....
imho it starts to look like a 3th rang helpdesk here
Hi guys,
I've just received my T mobile branded Kaiser. It's called the Vario 3.
As i am not looking to use the device with tmobile. Is it possible to debrand this device? If so, please explain how. My assumtption is that i'll need to upload a generic rom to the device.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Please read the forum first, before you post a question...
Especially the sticky threads...
To be short:
We know it's called the Vario 3 / Vario III
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You can probably unbrand the outside by rubbing some sugar against the logo's (I don't take any responsability for this, but it's known to be working on a T-Mobile MDA Vario I).
Th 'inside' is also known as the ROM an can't be unbranded yet...
Just wait untill we are able to CID-unlock it, so you can flash the ROM with an unbranded one...
For now you can hard-reset (format) it and jst after the screen alignment when it's counting down for customization soft-reset it by pushing your stylus up the little hole in the bottom of your device...
Good luck...
Oh, and...
Welcome to the Kaiser forum
Hi,
Sorry for not reading the sticky stuff, i'm just not that familiar with the technical terms for these devices so i thought me asking 'again' novice-style may be cool. Thanks for your help on this mate.
No problem...
I started out this way too, so...
I can tell you it's really worth it to dive in to this forum...
You can learn a lot if you check the threads once in a while...
Be carefull with advanced adjustments to your device, especially when you haven't got the right ROM for backup...
On the other hand, don't be scared to try out some stuff, because it's very hard to brick a device...
BTW:
Bricking means you screw up youre device so terribly (beyond repair) that it's turned in to a brick / expensive paperweight...
Just tried putting in my vodaphone sim into the Vario 3 and it says SIM LOCK code needed....Any advice where to get one from apart from t mobile?
Sorry...
I guess you'll have to wait...
pof is working on a CID-unlocker and probalby on a way to SIM-unlock it too...
I heard it's a difficult procedure, because the way it's simlocked is 'new'...
Maybe you can try www.imei-check.co.uk...
It's a paid service...
Decide for yourself if you're willing to pay, or have the patience to wait for a free solution...
I'm definatley sticking with the last one...
So I just got my tilt today. This is my first smartphone and I just had a couple questions before I start flashing roms and such.
If I flash the HTC factory ROM, is this a completely different operating system than wm6?
Do wm programs work on the HTC ROM?
I know I sound stupid but I have to start somewhere.
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So I just got my tilt today. This is my first smartphone and I just had a couple questions before I start flashing roms and such.
If I flash the HTC factory ROM, is this a completely different operating system than wm6?
Do wm programs work on the HTC ROM?
I know I sound stupid but I have to start somewhere.
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ey, man, wellcome...
The right place to start is "reading"... there are a lot of ussefull info in the Wiki ... take time to read and to understand what you are reading... when you'll be familiarized with terms and concepts, then you'll have many questions to do, and someone take time to help you, but for now you need read
Cheers.
Start Here
A good place to start is the Kaiser Wiki. Located right here on XDA.
As far as flashing different roms go, every rom currently available for the Kaiser (Tilt) are Windows Mobile 6 roms.
The only issues I have run into with installing programs is when the install CAB file is locked down to a particular device. This was common with the original installer of TomTom GPS floating around the site.
Since you are new to the game, as I was just 18 months ago, the biggest piece of advice I can give is this: Search the forum before asking questions. This is not to avoid flaming, although that may happen from time to time, but due to the high volume of posting on the site, it may take longer to get a response if you create a new topic as opposed to adding your question to an existing one.
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ey, man, wellcome...
The right place to start is "reading"... there are a lot of ussefull info in the Wiki ... take time to read and to understand what you are reading... when you'll be familiarized with terms and concepts, then you'll have many questions to do, and someone take time to help you, but for now you need read
Cheers.
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Awww, you beat me to it...
Thanks
Thanks for the response, I have been reading a lot lately but sometimes it is really hard to move on because people used advanced terms which are hard to find the meaning to without reading for hours through forums.
Just flashed on the HTC ROM, works perfectly.
I have really been looking to get the TouchFLO working on my Tilt, is this a setting or a button? Or do I need to install something?
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Thanks for the response, I have been reading a lot lately but sometimes it is really hard to move on because people used advanced terms which are hard to find the meaning to without reading for hours through forums.
Just flashed on the HTC ROM, works perfectly.
I have really been looking to get the TouchFLO working on my Tilt, is this a setting or a button? Or do I need to install something?
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Go to the wiki (its at the top of every page, its called "XDA-Wiki" and go to the kaiser section and read up. Also, go to my Tilt thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341024
I would also like to take this time to say "I told you so" to all the people who didn't think the majority of people with newbie questions would be Tilt users, and chastised me for making a "Tilt-only" thread.
defense
well in defense of myself.... a tilt was only $300 with new service where if I bought the "TyTn II" which is the same thing without a camera on the front, which I dont need, I would have to pay upwards of $800.
also thanks a lot for the threads very helpful
Now with the HTC rom there of course is no telenav, now do I have to pay for the GPS service through AT&T and Pay $9.99 for the telenav, or could I just purchase tom tom6 and be done with it and not pay at&t $9.99 a month for the gps service? thanks in advance for the response
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Now with the HTC rom there of course is no telenav, now do I have to pay for the GPS service through AT&T and Pay $9.99 for the telenav, or could I just purchase tom tom6 and be done with it and not pay at&t $9.99 a month for the gps service? thanks in advance for the response
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If you purchase TomTom, then you are done. No monthly fees associated with it.
As far as your TouchFLO question, you need to flash your Tilt to a rom that supports it. As you will learn from browsing this site, cooked roms are still very new for the Kaiser/Tilt, so there will only be a few available.
For a basic TouchFLO rom with high stability, I recommend AustinSync's BIGstorage rom. TeleNav will be missing from it, but you will be able to access all of AT&T's internal networks such as MEdia Net without issue.
just for terminology purposes, kaiser/tilt is a pocketpc, not a smartphone.
In the interest of trying to update my phone back from WM6 to WM5 I flashed my T-Mobile SDA (US) with the T-Mobile SDA (UK) image. I now can't get it to turn on or anything.
From reading here I think I flashed my Tornado with a Hurricane image. Is that correct? If so, is there any way I can recover my phone? I have tried getting into the bootloader by holding the power, camera, and the communication manager button, but nothing happens. I do occasionally see the left light flash orange for a second at random times. It doesnt seem to light up when I charge it though.
Did I just brick my phone?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294444
The simple answer being - it's dead. Sorry about that. It's a costly mistake.
What's the condition of the housing and keypad? I might be interested to buy it for parts. I got my SDA used a long time ago and the previous owner was a bit too rough with it (basically, it looks like poo).
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The simple answer being - it's dead. Sorry about that. It's a costly mistake.
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And a very EASY mistake to make, considering the fact that on the home page of this forum, it has the picture of the Tornado before the HUrricane, yet the tornado forum is listed AFTER the hurricane forum.
I spent many trips here trying to figure out whether the SDA was a tornado or a hurricane. Of course they don't even have SDA is a model type listed there, which is even just as stupid.
Sorry, but this is just inviting people into catastrophy, and it really sucks bad. In fact it's quite fair to say if this were not the case, there would be many less bricked SDA's (Also known as Tornado, but apparently the SDA is not a recognized model here).
See attached image that almost cause me to brick my SDA
Tell me that is not confusing?
Flashing the US SDA with a UK SDA ROM is a common mistake. I know, I did it too, bricking my first Tornado 2 days after buying it! My advice; sell it for spare parts and get another one from ebay. I'm really sorry, my friend, but there's nothing you can do for your phone now.
And please do not advice him about JTAG flashing, etc. Theoretically, it is possible, practically no one in this forum had it done! No one knows how to do it!
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And a very EASY mistake to make, considering the fact that on the home page of this forum, it has the picture of the Tornado before the HUrricane, yet the tornado forum is listed AFTER the hurricane forum.
I spent many trips here trying to figure out whether the SDA was a tornado or a hurricane. Of course they don't even have SDA is a model type listed there, which is even just as stupid.
Sorry, but this is just inviting people into catastrophy, and it really sucks bad. In fact it's quite fair to say if this were not the case, there would be many less bricked SDA's (Also known as Tornado, but apparently the SDA is not a recognized model here).
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You're wrong, those pictures are correct. I realy hate this modern attitude that when people mess up they just blame someone else for it. Yes, getting throught the naming jungle aint easy at times but still, there's no reason to blame personal mistakes on the forum. People who flash need to be aware that it's always a risky thing to do unless one knows exactly what one's about to do. So people need to invest time and learn all the details about a) their exact device and b) how flashing works. It's called personal responsibility.
Hi everybody
I'm new to all this.I've bought a SPV M5000 from abroad a couple of days ago.It's been used a little i see,found some contacts etc..
Now,i'm reading my eyes out on this forum trying to learn and.. uhhh.. not going well I don't know any of this stuff and don't understand much of the terms and phrases i stumbled upon.
But i got this: i have WM 5 installed on this lovely machine,and i gotta install wm 6.1 (so i've been told) and all other stuff that belongs to it to make a nice complex system.I don't know where to start,i don't know which rom to download and the procedure,i've read many things about unlocking and bricking the pda so i'm scared.Is anyone willing to help with a list of steps of all i have to do ? Thanks in advance.So,help me or kick me in the butt for being a noob
PalDragan said:
Hi everybody
I'm new to all this.I've bought a SPV M5000 from abroad a couple of days ago.It's been used a little i see,found some contacts etc..
Now,i'm reading my eyes out on this forum trying to learn and.. uhhh.. not going well I don't know any of this stuff and don't understand much of the terms and phrases i stumbled upon.
But i got this: i have WM 5 installed on this lovely machine,and i gotta install wm 6.1 (so i've been told) and all other stuff that belongs to it to make a nice complex system.I don't know where to start,i don't know which rom to download and the procedure,i've read many things about unlocking and bricking the pda so i'm scared.Is anyone willing to help with a list of steps of all i have to do ? Thanks in advance.So,help me or kick me in the butt for being a noob
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Start here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Uni_ROM_Upgrade
Keep reading until you feel comfortable.
Thanks galt
Thanks galt,i've read it and gonna study the whole thing now till my eyes pop out
thanks