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How are WM6.1 ROMs nowadays?

So I've been out of the scene a long time, the last time I was around the WM6.1 ROMs were just getting released and had a lot of bugs.
How are they nowadays? Anymore freezing or GPS problems? What are the benefits with the WM6.1 ROMs? I'm thinking about using the factory HTC WM6.1 ROM on my AT&T Tilt.
Thanks in advance.

How are they????
Well, where should I start???
How about the begining....They are about 70,000 to 109,000 kilobytes.
Dude seriously??? There are several dozen posts about 6.1 roms. It would've taken you less time to read a few of them then to post this waste of space.
So go read & learn something new. Try a few, or learn & cook your own. But don't come around here & expect anyone to write up cliff notes so you don't have to read or search like the rest of us.

WM 6.1 Issues
vanydotk said:
So I've been out of the scene a long time, the last time I was around the WM6.1 ROMs were just getting released and had a lot of bugs.
How are they nowadays? Anymore freezing or GPS problems? What are the benefits with the WM6.1 ROMs? I'm thinking about using the factory HTC WM6.1 ROM on my AT&T Tilt.
Thanks in advance.
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The common known issues and fixes are;
1. GPS- There is a common problem with the GPS programs starting when the HTC Today home plugin is active. Some ROMs seem to get around this issue, but every 6.1 ROM I have tried experienced this. The fix is to disable HTC Today plugin, soft reset, start the GPS software and minimize it. Enable your HTC Today plugin and go through each tab (Today/Contacts/Music/Weather, etc.) You should then be able to close the GPS program and it will start again untill your next S/R.
2. There was a screen freeze issue that was fixed by a new Hard SPL 3.28 or 3.29, do a search on Jockey SPL and it will take you to the SPL replacement process.
The new Diamond ROM is out and they are cooking in some of its feattures into the Kaiser ROMs.
Some of the 6.1 advantages have been the threaded messaging, better memory allocation, Internet Explorer has more functionality and you can say you have the latest and "greatest"......
I have been using Laurentis' ROMs but stopped flashing after his L26 v6a.
I have not tried any of the Diamond ROMS because I'm waiting to see those bugs.... I have ran on L26 v6a for over a month with minimal issues, other than those listed above.
Hope this helps.

Bruce Inman said:
I saw no reply to your questions so I thought I would chime in...
The common known issues and fixes are;
1. GPS- There is a common problem with the GPS programs starting when the HTC Today home plugin is active. Some ROMs seem to get around this issue, but every 6.1 ROM I have tried experienced this. The fix is to disable HTC Today plugin, soft reset, start the GPS software and minimize it. Enable your HTC Today plugin and go through each tab (Today/Contacts/Music/Weather, etc.) You should then be able to close the GPS program and it will start again untill your next S/R.
2. There was a screen freeze issue that was fixed by a new Hard SPL 3.28 or 3.29, do a search on Jockey SPL and it will take you to the SPL replacement process.
The new Diamond ROM is out and they are cooking in some of its feattures into the Kaiser ROMs.
Some of the 6.1 advantages have been the threaded messaging, better memory allocation, Internet Explorer has more functionality and you can say you have the latest and "greatest"......
I have been using Laurentis' ROMs but stopped flashing after his L26 v6a.
I have not tried any of the Diamond ROMS because I'm waiting to see those bugs.... I have ran on L26 v6a for over a month with minimal issues, other than those listed above.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the info.
I acutally did do a search but it seems like nowadays everybody has a veriation of the WM 6.1 ROM and there wasn't really any information on the shipped HTC ROM because everybody uses cooked ROMs. I'll stick with WM6 for now and check back in a few months.

Edit: Offensive post removed
really? with all the different version that the cooks put out there, you think he could summarize all the features, and pros and cons of all different roms that are available in the less the time it took to write that?
and in case you dont know who you are calling gay, just hope that you never ever brick you device.

Stop asking to be spoon fed.
Stop the flaming.
Thread closed.

6.1 Manill2D Idiot's Guide?

Ok, apologies for starting a new thread on what's probably been done a hundred times. But I notice info is scattered around literally 1000's of pages so I thought I' just start a simple one here to a pretty simple question.
I'm getting a stock Orange e650 and want to put Manilla2D on it, or just WM6.1.
I've read up on the SPL etc, and Dr. Martin Gonzo's WM 6.1 zip seems pretty idiot proof with very clear instructions. I'm pretty confident about flashing it.
However, I've not found a simple guide to Manilla2D. Does Manilla2D sit on top of 6.1? ie, I install WM6.1, and then the cab files for M2D?
The .zip I have has various .cab files which I imagine are executed on the device. But when and how?
I basically need a solid guide to installing a stable Manilla2D build.
I'm happy take pictures and write up a guide as I do it if one doesn't exist. A sort of 'noob's' guide from a 'noob's' perspective.
Thanks

Because there is no simple way to get manilla 2d to work on a smartphone^^ Try allshadow.com forums, there is a thread with guides!

frauhottelmann said:
Because there is no simple way to get manilla 2d to work on a smartphone^^
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lol The more I read, the more I think I'll just put 6.1 on.
Thanks

I don't know if manilla runs on 6.0, but 6.1 is a definite improvement over 6.0!

the first treath is now renewed
with it its now very easy to get manila working but at least with neo and wm6.1 rom the upper symbols(like mute signal strange etc) are white boxes.(maybe another 96dpi hack will solve it runs smoothly on my vox except landscape even with installed patch it wont work.

Anyone interested in making a 6.1 ROM with Manilla2D already installed? Is it by any means possible?

DID DO
But the 96 dpi hack eems to make things impossible to use on a daily basis
try the random audio manager that keeps loading

I have searched and flashed but to no avail, can somoene help?!

Hi all
I've been looking for a CLEAN speedy rom for ages, ever since At0mang stopped cooking the quality of the roms on here seems to have dropped, there doesnt seem to be a single RAPHAEL rom, or one that hasnt been heavily modified to include the very buggy rhodium manilla
does ANYONE know of a CLEAN/SPEEDY rom with minimal extra applications but of course the regular gamut of speed enhancements
many thanks

Try PROven 4.2 with or without tp or rhodium manillas

Have you tried Da-G's? he's releasing roms in addition to kitchens now. It might be buggy since its the lastest 6.5 build.

I've already tried Provens 4.2
its moreso the issues with the menu's thats the problem
same with Da_G's, theres just some pretty annoying bugs on there
the only thing i tend to use my TP for is as a phone, to text and call, and some of the roms are just really slow when it comes to texting!

You could try NATF's Roms. They are pretty stable, and you can choose the lite version - it comes without Manilla, and then you can add whatever apps you like.

i'd recommend RRE roms... it comes with or without Manila and 6.1 or 6.5 versions.
it's amazingly fast and stable

RRE 5.8 series everytime, loved his 6.1 based ROM used Atoms before this, admittedly RRE 5.8 aren't as Naked as Atoms were but they are certainly not filled to the brim with apps just for the sake of having them!! Also try his 6.5 based series..they Freakin Rock and are stable as anything ive used ...
So Far

Hi all,
First of all, i am new here BUT read the rules of this forum as far as i could understand it (am from Holland
and can write/read some English but most of this translated with google translater )
Second i did search what i am looking for but couldn't find it exactly.
This topic is most close to it i think.
I have a touch pro, dutch phone, no simlock, doesn't work very well, very slow phone, microphone is broken so phone function can't be used anymore,
camera had better days, battery is not much better, BUT:
The GPS function does work and that is what want to use the phone for.
I am a tourist trackdriver (Nurburgring Nordschleife) and want to measure my tracktimes with Racechrono.
I know it isn't very accurate, but that doesn't matter on a 21 kilometre track
What i'm looking for is a very very very light windows mobile version without phone functions, games, email, internet, and such, this because the phone crashed alot during the time i used it as daily phone, so there has to be as little programs on the phone as possible.
Only the GPS function and the Race Chrono program have to work.
Can someone help me with this?
Thanks in advance.
Jeroen

TF3D ROM for Kaiser? (Collecting Bounty act. 35€)

Hey Guys,
I know that this has been discussed a hundred times .
But let me at first explain:
This goes out to all you chefs which are cooking the roms (I'm not capable to cook one by myself)
So what I would like to have is a Kaiser ROM with a working Touchflo3d.
I've read and searched for hours and hours and found the rom from L26, but I think this had been an really early state. Now the drivers have changed and improved.
So is there anyone out there who is able to cook a rom (no matter if 6.1 or 6.5) with working TF3D and drivers?
I found out that there is a working version in this tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465507
But it was not working with my rom (M-Opal 1.0) due to cooked M2D.
So it would give hmm a bounty of 35€ (€ not dollars) if anyone would prepare a working, fast rom with TF3D.
And I am also sure that there will be a lot of other useres who would love it.
Best regards,
Matthias

Maeffjus said:
And I am also sure that there will be a lot of other useres who would love it.
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Not me ...........................
That being said, here is the latest.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458116

Maeffjus said:
Hey Guys,
I know that this has been discussed a hundred times .
But let me at first explain:
This goes out to all you chefs which are cooking the roms (I'm not capable to cook one by myself)
So what I would like to have is a Kaiser ROM with a working Touchflo3d.
I've read and searched for hours and hours and found the rom from L26, but I think this had been an really early state. Now the drivers have changed and improved.
So is there anyone out there who is able to cook a rom (no matter if 6.1 or 6.5) with working TF3D and drivers?
I found out that there is a working version in this tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465507
But it was not working with my rom (M-Opal 1.0) due to cooked M2D.
So it would give hmm a bounty of 35€ (€ not dollars) if anyone would prepare a working, fast rom with TF3D.
And I am also sure that there will be a lot of other useres who would love it.
Best regards,
Matthias
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there are already tf3d roms and if your looking for one that will work flawlessly on our kaisers, not gonna happen.

Leo (L26) made a decent rom L26_KaiserTouch_V4_M3D that actually encompasses TF3d. I have not tried the others but I do love his rom even though it is not as smooth.

I wonder how it will work with 6.5 drivers. I'm going to take a shot at cooking it into josh's rom for you. We'll see how this goes.

Why should there be no interest in TF3D on a Kaiser? (@denco)
Because I've seen a lot of videos on Youtube where it is running smooth and it also seems nearly bugless.
Like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPf_gjMFBHs
or these one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDduRgWFweM&feature=related
What I want to fullfil my bounty should be:
1. Running TF3D
2. OpenGl-Drivers integrated in ROM (I think it is necessary to use TF3D)
3. The Standby bugfix should be integrated, which is located under the link in my first post.
4. Look and Feel like on the Videos (not any kind of "Tiger" or strange "Tribal" as system theme)
Optional but highly welcome: German Language
Or is it possible to install some kind of language pack? (I'm using WM since hmm 6 or 7 years but I've never seen such a thing)
I've tried the L26 ROM and it was not satifying to me because the speed was really low compared to the TF3D's on the youtube videos and it seemed very buggy.
If I'm not completely wrong, the version of TF3D from my first post is in an advanced state compared with the on from L26.
Thanks in Advance!
Would be nice to find some people who will help to increase the bounty!

Maeffjus said:
Why should there be no interest in TF3D on a Kaiser? (@denco)
Because I've seen a lot of videos on Youtube where it is running smooth and it also seems nearly bugless.
Like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPf_gjMFBHs
or these one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDduRgWFweM&feature=related
What I want to fullfil my bounty should be:
1. Running TF3D
2. OpenGl-Drivers integrated in ROM (I think it is necessary to use TF3D)
3. The Standby bugfix should be integrated, which is located under the link in my first post.
4. Look and Feel like on the Videos (not any kind of "Tiger" or strange "Tribal" as system theme)
Optional but highly welcome: German Language
Or is it possible to install some kind of language pack? (I'm using WM since hmm 6 or 7 years but I've never seen such a thing)
I've tried the L26 ROM and it was not satifying to me because the speed was really low compared to the TF3D's on the youtube videos and it seemed very buggy.
If I'm not completely wrong, the version of TF3D from my first post is in an advanced state compared with the on from L26.
Thanks in Advance!
Would be nice to find some people who will help to increase the bounty!
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Yes it can run smoothely'ish the problem encountered is lack of driver to be able to sleep device in the correct manor.

But there is a patch to solve that kind of problem or am I wrong?
Q: Whenever I try and put the device into sleep mode, it powers off instead?
A: Try disabling the today time-out. Also, make sure you installed the standby CAB right.
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Taken from the Linked TF3D thread...

Maeffjus said:
But there is a patch to solve that kind of problem or am I wrong?
Taken from the Linked TF3D thread...
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No there are work arounds but no real fix

Im still TF3D fan, but after many bug and slow on my Kaiser, i have to move on.. if somebody create or develop ROM with it, i will give a try..

With that standby fix Touchflo3d is disabled automatically before sleep mode. Biggest problem for me was that when the device wakes up it needs to launch touchflo again and that process was kinda slow. Sometimes it just get stuck and needed softreset.
Still, I would be curious to see how smooth tf3d would be cooked in with newest builds and drivers...Also, if I remember right 3d drivers won't work if you have super ram hack in your rom.

Whatever ;-) ...
Also, if I remember right 3d drivers won't work if you have super ram hack in your rom.
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I don't mind if there is a super-ram-hack or what else, in my opinion it should WORK
Also I think that all of you shall take a look in your money-bag if there is a possibility to make it a little more lucrative to work on such a rom.
As I also stated out that I will pay my full bounty only if it is able to run on latetest state of development - that means not that the chef has to develop touchflo3d once again but without bugs ;-) it means only that it should be able to run as good as possible at the moment.
But as I read yesterday evening, I saw that there are maybe two possibilities to get rid of the standby bug, but - forgive me - if did not looked detailed at these solutions - so I don't know how these work but maybe one of them is working better?
And when I'm right - all the roms with TF3D cooked in are with an earlier driver-version. The younger versions of the driver have improved, if I understood the development news made in the dev. and hack. section.
The TF3D-cooked-in-rom-threads are nearly all dated arround december '08 - and I read a lot of them

Maeffjus said:
Why should there be no interest in TF3D on a Kaiser? (@denco)
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I am not saying that if you posted a working TF3d rom that no one would flash it, I would. But what is the effort /reward ?
What about it would make it better than my M2D rom ? Or anyone's 6.5 rom.
Enough great chefs put more than enough time into it, and could not get adequate drivers to make it smooth enough to keep as an everyday rom nor could they get by the stand by problem.
TF3D is M2D with some nice 3D touches that is all, am I missing something ? Is it head and shoulders above M2D or Neo Titanium, I don't think so. Which is why no one really cares to put in all the effort to make it work , nor is anyone really willing to spend any funds to make it work.
I am not being a contrarian or a nay sayer just for arguement sake, really With M$ coming out with cHome and Titanium, SPB out with MS 3, HTC coming out with Sense, there is a reason why people took porting TF3D as far as they could and then lost interest.

O.K. 0,5 Points for you
But I think that Sense is only for Andoid? Correct me if I'm doing wrong...
My problem is, that my Kaiser (and i think all others too) have not such a good touch screen accuracy... mine is terrible.
(yes, I cleaned out the frame and the edges...but on my bosses Kaiser the screen accuracy is also bad! - Compared to my - slow but accurate - P4350).
In my opinion the touchflo concept is one of the best solutions ever developed. But for me in person TF3D would be a nice looking (and little improved) upgrade. I'm already using M2D and I like it, but what I also like very much is for example the animated weather and the improved look and feel.
I have also tried 6.5 but with the terrible accuracy of my screen it is not so funny to use.. also it is not running such smooth as M2D and I in person think titanium is not everyones favourite choice. What i also do not like is the Honeycomb-Style... looks nice, but thats all.. O.k. the kinetic scrolling is good and thats one thing I like . But thats the only improvement I could see at WM6.5.
So whats your opinion: Is a rom with newest drivers and so on not for everydays use capable due to a lot of buggy functions? (I dont't know - I never used one ).

If I remember right, all the legendary cooks have tired TF3D and it doesnt work as it is supposed in Kaiser. Kaiser is just not made for TF3D. TF3D is more resource hungry, and our device just cant handle it.
I do believe there is a cab for TF3D available! Take a good lite 6.5 ROM with memory hack, and load it with TF3D, you will see if it will be able to handle it or not.

I had it working kinda decent with 6.5...just kept throwing drivers at it until i found a decent setup. But i was just wanting to see how it would be like you. When i get home i will look if i still have the file and send it to you. I cant even remember what all i had with it though lol. But like everyone has said its still slow with the newest drivers and such.

I cant find the file....but i will work on it this weekend.

Here is one that I had downloaded when the TF3D thread was alive. This does not have standby in it. So if you want to turn off your phone, then you need to find a stanby fix by somebody!

Hmm in my first post is another source for the TF3D, which has bigger files - there you'll find also the Audio Manager etc.

Has this thread died ?

Norwegian 6.5 ROM build 28002

Updated:
Finally had time, and access to norwegian files for a new build. Seems a bit faster and more responsive.
New in this version:
- Removed some unused/unnecessary stuff from OEM
- Camera application updated to version 5.04
- Removed taskmanager from the taskbar and replaced it with a norwegian version
- Removed some more stuff from SYS (Uneeded/unwanted)
Bugs:
- The license agreement of MSN is still blank, press "godta"
- The default start page of Interet Explorer does NOT work.
Uploaded to 4shared:
build 28002: here
previous build 23071: here
Make sure you have read this before upgrading
Important:
This ROM does not contain a radio, the radio of your previously flashed ROM will be used
Please let me know if you find any other bugs or problems! This will definitely help me improve my work! (any positive feedback is wanted as well)

Skabbi said:
Thanks to this fantastic forum I've managed to cook my own norwegian 6.5 ROM based on build 23071. So far it seems to be working very well.
Since I'm not sure about the demand for norwegian ROMs I havn't uploaded it anywhere yet. If youre interested in trying it please post here telling me so.
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Hi there.
I like to try your ROM.
Espen

I'll try to find a nice place to upload it as soon as I can, will probably PM with where you can find it.
Things I've done with this ROM is by the way:
Removed:
Transcriber (doesn't recognize norwegian letters anyway)
Autoupdate
IRDA (No infrared on kaiser so this is useless)
Livesearch
MS Money
MS Tag
MS My Phone
Added:
Working version of Windows Live (Since I do use msn occasionally)
Taskmanager
+Some other minor tweaks
Basically a quite clean Rom based on a mix of the OEM of my stock 6.1 kaiser and 6.5 build 23071 SYS.

Very nice and it makes me curious
Hi
Very nice initiative. I have tried most the roms around here, and have had some difficulties with 6.5 roms and have currently gone back to a 6.1 rom, but this makes me interested to try a 6.5 rom again
best regards Rune T. Norway
Added info:
Flashed the rom, and tried it for a little more than a day, but I found it it a little unresponsive for my taste.
I always look for the fastest I can find with the best batterylife, but things is of course a matter of taste, and one seems to get picky after trying all these magnificent roms ;D
I currently use 23053-uncompressed (with only 58Mb free storage at startup), and this is fast and stable.
If you wanted to try and cook a norwegian rom based on this one, it might be a winner for my taste.
RT

I've just installed your ROM and it's working good so far.
Espen

have u got any pictures ? and I hope u can post a english vision as well ;
thanks very much !

Improving
First of all thanks for the response!
Also I will not be cooking an english version of this as there are quite a lot of them out there already (probably a lot better than I could do them too)
Have been working a bit to improve this version built on 23071 for a while, and have made a couple of test builds for myself removing unneeded apps, the duplicate alarm clock shortcut and so on, but have turned to build 23081 simply because I like the magnifier in it. Will probably post it as soon as its ready.
BTW. I've been working on a couple of uncompressed versions as well, most people use the SD-cards for storage anyway.
Might take me a couple of days, maybe weeks as I'm currently playing around with my diamonds and trinitys too...

Great - keep up the good work.
Still no issues with the current version.
Espen

Me WANT
Hi, there i would realy like to try this on, I'm sick of reading eanglish on my kaiser
-Thx
Sorry, i can see clearly now, so i found the download link

Just to let you know
Lately I've been working on the 23081 build, uncompressed. It's fast and responsive, but there's some minor bugs with Internet explorer that I'm trying to fix. I'm looking for the norwegian languge files for 23088 though so if anyone could get me those I'd be very happy....

Remove IE, it sucks anyhow. It's slow and useless.
Add Opera and set it as default browser
Opera 9.7 Beta
The beta works great.

Grimms said:
Remove IE, it sucks anyhow. It's slow and useless.
Add Opera and set it as default browser
Opera 9.7 Beta
The beta works great.
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Have been playing with the idea, might try it when I get time, not sure yet how difficult it is to set it as the default browser when I cook it and integrate it into titanium. Will defenitely look into it.

Sounds great
Looking forward to your next build

Finally..
..a new build.
Check out the first post for links.
I have not added opera, you are free to do so yourself

Nice.. I'll check it out over the weekend..

Thanks
Thanks for testing! Please leave me a message telling whats good/bad and so on.
At the moment I'm in the process of cooking a ROM with touchflo 2.0 from the HTC Mega (touch2), seems like there's just a few bugs that I need to get rid of, when (or if?) I get it done I'll upload it if anyone wants it. (Not a huge fan of touchflo on kaiser myself since it doesn't work properly in portrait though)
Not working at the moment:
YouTube (Freezes)
Opera (works, but it's in english)
Dialer (fixed, went back to the built in dialer from WM 6.5)
Comm Manager (fixed, used the original from my HTC Kaiser)

Hi, I have not had the time too test your rom untill now. I'm falshing as we speak I will report back after testing for a few hours..