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i dropped my Fuze today and i cracked the screen. I'm trying to figure out if its the digitizer that cracked or the LCD can anyone tell me how to check. The screen looks fine when i have it on the black background its hardly noticeable, but when I text you can tell its cracked pretty nicely. I can still use it and see everything just that it annoying and want to get it fixed. They sell them on Ebay for pretty cheap (digitizer that is). i also was wondering if anyone knew where to find instructions on replacing the digitizer I can't seem to find anything.
Any help would be greatly appreciated...
Thanks
Post some pictures up. Maybe someone can help by looking at it.
regardless if its just the digitizer or the screen, from what I've read, its easier to probably change them both. You're looking at a cost of no more then $100. That's a little bit over what you can find them for on the bay. i dont think the digitizer was actually meant to be easily disassembled at our level. If you need help disassembling your TP otherwise though, try mikechannon.net
I'll have pictures up tonight....
I just figured it out that its the touchscreen itself... The LCD is intact because there is not bleeding of any sort..... Does anyone know of a place that repairs this sort of thing?
Not recommended to separate digitizer with the lcd. It has a special glue (more like clear double tape) to attach them together that really really sticks. I tried to separate them with cutter blade and crack the lcd. There was an advise I read on the internet somewhere to use dental floss. Try google it.
And be careful of choosing the replacement, you could end up with this problem. Well ... I did....
I just got my digitizer in the mail and contemplating doing the repair myself.... has anyone done it or can point me to the right direction to just replace the digitizer?
Good Luck .....
Below are pictures of the result. I don't know the correct procedures of separating those two.
Just .... don't do my mistakes.
Good Luck.
Hi all,
I sat on my Fuze, short and simple. There is now a weird crack on the screen. I am very familiar with what a broken LCD looks like, there is no LCD "liquid" oozing all over the place, and the picture is not distorted in any way. It looks like some kind of lens INSIDE might be broken, and I think it's the digitizer. The cracks stop once they get to the dark grey at&t/HTC border around the screen, even though I hit very close to it, so whatever I cracked is under the top lens/protector.
Also, I read online (albeit at a cell phone repair website) that you can't replace the digitizer without ruining the LCD. Is there any merit to this, or are they just trying to convince people to pay their obscene $149 to replace a $30 part?
So I guess I have two questions:
Did I break the digitizer, the topmost lens, or somehow the LCD glass without damaging the LCD itself?
How hard is this to replace?
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EDIT: I ordered this on April 17th. Fat chance AT&T will do anything about it, right?
That looks like just the digitizer... I purchased the digitizer already, but haven't gotten the chance to take it apart yet.... to be honest I'm very nervous about taking it apart.. I'm still trying to figure out how to split the two pieces apart (the keyboardbase and the slide screen....
wxy117 said:
That looks like just the digitizer... I purchased the digitizer already, but haven't gotten the chance to take it apart yet.... to be honest I'm very nervous about taking it apart.. I'm still trying to figure out how to split the two pieces apart (the keyboardbase and the slide screen....
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If I'm not mistaken (and I might be), all this should take is removing the two small phillips head screws on the back of the screen that show when the phone is slid open. I landed on this thing while it was open, and drove my knee right into the screen, I'm surprised I didn't break anything else.
There are three more screws that you can't see behind the screen.... when its slid open you can only see 2 screws... There are actually 5
wxy117 said:
There are three more screws that you can't see behind the screen.... when its slid open you can only see 2 screws... There are actually 5
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So we do have to take the whole damn thing apart?
Does anyone have any luck with AT&T replacing things that are clearly accidental damage? With all the horror stories I hear about refurbished phones and the chance that they might send me one, I'd actually rather take my chances at fixing this. I've taken apart a ton of phones and fixed them before, and worked at a cell phone repair shop for a few months. I still have most of my tools lying around, including all the screw drivers I'd need to open this.
I was able to find an HTC service manual that doesn't really explain how to replace the digitizer. It does describe how to get it in two pieces, but I wouldn't know where to go from there.
I have the digitizer in my hand... There is a thing that hooks up to the phone itself so yes i'm pretty sure you have to take apart the entire thing.... I think i'm gonna take the phone to NYC and have someone that knows what they're doing repair it. I tried to get warrenty repair, but they said no because it is accidental damage. i pretty much tried everything before I ordered a new screen.
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I have the digitizer in my hand... There is a thing that hooks up to the phone itself so yes i'm pretty sure you have to take apart the entire thing.... I think i'm gonna take the phone to NYC and have someone that knows what they're doing repair it. I tried to get warrenty repair, but they said no because it is accidental damage. i pretty much tried everything before I ordered a new screen.
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Found a good complete disassembly guide in Russian, why does the screen have to be the LAST thing to come out? I am now looking to buy an LCD/digitizer combo, but I can only find the one from Brando that is made for regular HTC Touch Pros, and not the Fuze (has a camera cutout instead of the AT&T logo).
If I end up having to replace the LCD I'd much rather break it trying to save $50 than just toss it. Is it really that hard to separate the digitizer from the LCD?
http://translate.google.com/transla...ka/htc-touch-pro/&sl=ru&tl=en&history_state0=
has anyone had success separating the Digitizer and the LCD screen?
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has anyone had success separating the Digitizer and the LCD screen?
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Well, we'll find out. I ordered both an AT&T Fuze digitizer by itself as well as an LCD with a digitizer attached. I'm just going to go ahead and replace everything with the combination unit and see if I can replace my broken digitizer without breaking my LCD in my free time. If it works, I have a spare or I can sell it
be careful I got my digitizer and they sent me the wrong one. They sent me one for a sprint touch pro....
wxy117 said:
be careful I got my digitizer and they sent me the wrong one. They sent me one for a sprint touch pro....
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Hopefully I'll get it right, I made sure to order an AT&T Fuze digitizer that made it clear it wasn't for use with Sprint Touch Pros or Touch Pros with front facing camera.
The LCD+digitizer I ordered though may very well show up as any of the above, if they're not already attached I'm going to use the AT&T Fuze digitizer on the new LCD, and try and make a new working combo from my old LCD to resell. I'll make a detailed step by step with photos as well.
Don't forget to read this
They just sent out my new one today.... So anyone that needs a digitizer for the Fuze by Sprint hit me up.... They told me to keep it so now I have an extra digitizer that doesn't work for my phone...
I think I can help you cos I repaired LCD and digitizer on Raphael a week ago. Digitizer and LCD are two separate parts joined by flat printed wires. If you need to change just one of them you will need to take apart whole phone.
Raphael consists from 2 main parts - 1. that one with keyboard 2nd part with LCD. You have to take apart both what is quite hard to realize if you this for the first time.
Once you are with your LCD you will see the flat wires grom lcd and digitizer meerged. Split them with your solddering gun carefully! Take new digitizer and solder flat wires together. Anyway there is no glue or liquid fluit or whatever between digitizer and LCD. But - remeber especially those who replacing just LCD - there is kind of black tape around the backside of LCD part (the silver side) - take it apart from old lcd and move to new one. If you dont you will see the rainbow on your LCD but just after assembling whole device together - it is quite concerning if you find out this kinf of malfunction just after such a hard work like a assembling this hellmade device
Good luck to everyone!
pisqle said:
I think I can help you cos I repaired LCD and digitizer on Raphael a week ago. Digitizer and LCD are two separate parts joined by flat printed wires. If you need to change just one of them you will need to take apart whole phone.
Raphael consists from 2 main parts - 1. that one with keyboard 2nd part with LCD. You have to take apart both what is quite hard to realize if you this for the first time.
Once you are with your LCD you will see the flat wires grom lcd and digitizer meerged. Split them with your solddering gun carefully! Take new digitizer and solder flat wires together. Anyway there is no glue or liquid fluit or whatever between digitizer and LCD. But - remeber especially those who replacing just LCD - there is kind of black tape around the backside of LCD part (the silver side) - take it apart from old lcd and move to new one. If you dont you will see the rainbow on your LCD but just after assembling whole device together - it is quite concerning if you find out this kinf of malfunction just after such a hard work like a assembling this hellmade device
Good luck to everyone!
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Thank you for some rather broken, but very helpful advice. Kinda sucks that I'm really happy since I don't have to worry about removing any adhesive, but now I have to sit here and solder flex cables. I shoulda bought a spare one
Do they ship these parts on pigeons from Hong Kong?
To anyone counting on being able to separate the LCD from the digitizer, DON'T. There is absolutely no way to separate them without destroying either or both. Also, take extreme caution when peeling up the flex cable, it is very easy to tear (I tore mine).
So my net cost, 80 + 50, LCD/Digitizer and Flex Cable = $130 vs. sending it to HTC $150. I advise anyone to just pay them rather than take this thing apart.
from my understanding people have done it before... Maybe you just had bad luck? Well we'll see when my screen comes in *crossing fingers*
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from my understanding people have done it before... Maybe you just had bad luck? Well we'll see when my screen comes in *crossing fingers*
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Fact of the matter is when people say this is a delicate phone to take apart, they mean it. I worked at a cell phone repair store for a few weeks, and learned how to take apart damn near anything (thank God this was before the iPhone existed). Not only are both flex cables in this phone taped down in 100 different places, making them very easy to tear while removing the tape, the adhesive used between the LCD and digitizer is STRONG. If you really wanted to separate them, you might have some luck with a straight edge and maybe an hour. Good luck, I'll let you all know how this turns out once I have my new flex cable, since I conveniently tore the volume buttons off the original.
I just got my screen today so we're gonna see some time next week how we do on this screen replacement....I'll let you know how it goes....
So far no luck with my digitizer. Has anyone had any luck just changing out the digitizer yet? The guy that was suppose to do mine is backing out because he doesn't want to risk cracking my LCD. I don't blame him thats the reason I didn't do it. sheik124 what are you doing with your damaged fuze? Are you sending it to HTC for repairs?
so i dropped my phone just the outer glass broke the lcd is find i was wondering where i can get the cheepest replacement for that i realy dont know what the price goes for but id rather not spend 500 on a retail andriod phone. my upgrade is like 3 months
Report it broken, pay $90 for a replacement through Asurion. Cheaper than $500, y'know?
Sent from my FroyoEris
You need to google for a eris digitizer.
LMGTFY
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...fai=CMBq5koWzTNrsN46EygTEha3rCQAAAKoEBU_Q0wbi
i think u can get them for like 40+ dollars off ebay
If you don't mind the long shipping times, you can get a digitizer + the entire housing together for around $60 on ebay. Doesn't seem like a bad deal to me.
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Zombie post . . . sorry about that. Need to remember to look at dates before replying.
Palmbxr said:
so i dropped my phone just the outer glass broke the lcd is find i was wondering where i can get the cheepest replacement for that i realy dont know what the price goes for but id rather not spend 500 on a retail andriod phone. my upgrade is like 3 months
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I just replace mine, and is wasn't too bad. There is videos on YouTube about how to do it. It took me about an hour, and the part costs about 40 bucks. If you need any help with it, feel free to email me [email protected]
Aaron
you can get one @ 49usd
http://www.htcrepairparts.com/touch-screen-digitizer-for-htc-g5-eris-p-2727.html
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so i dropped my phone just the outer glass broke the lcd is find i was wondering where i can get the cheepest replacement for that i realy dont know what the price goes for but id rather not spend 500 on a retail andriod phone. my upgrade is like 3 months
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I'm going through the same thing. Amazon has some digitizers for about $40. I decided to spend the extra $20 and get this instead
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004F5CEDW
It's the whole casing. I didn't want to bother with stripping the digitzer off the frame which is glued on. With replacing the whole body, you just move the mainboard over and plug everything back in. At least this is my hope. I'll post here again when the thing actually arrives. I ordered it two weeks ago and it probably won't be here until mid March.
Good luck with whatever you decided to go with.
UPDATE. hmmm october was the post date. I guess this guy has long taken care of his problem
Are there any particular tools needed? I swear my other half is on a mission to destroy her phone. It'd be good to know how to do some of the possible DIY stuff.
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Are there any particular tools needed? I swear my other half is on a mission to destroy her phone. It'd be good to know how to do some of the possible DIY stuff.
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There's Youtube videos for disassembly. I haven't watched them myself, but I know they exist, so they probably tell you what tools you need there. From what I remember hearing, just some small torx screwdrivers, or maybe some small phillips, too, but don't quote me on those.
Here is a link to the teardown video I followed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHwm-32BI0w
The amazon link in my previous post is what I bought. It was the whole body. There are just screen replacements but I didn't want to mess with that because the digitizer is glued to the front piece. I didn't want to risk warping or breaking the front piece and completely screwing myself over. Anyway, what I bought came with the tools you need to perform the teardown and an extra screwdriver that was not needed.
I am glad I did this. However, it came with it's share of issues.
-The very top of my digitizer does not work. As a result, I can't pull down the notification bar. I can get to it through the menu button but it is annoying.
-I had to move the ear speaker and loudspeaker over. They were glued to some foam which was stuck/glued to the chassis. That foam absorbed the vibration. When my phone rings loud it is nasty because the speaker is bouncing around. I tried to cut some foam myself to replace what was stuck in the old case. It helped but it's not perfect.
-There are some rubber buffers? Isolators? Not sure what their called which also needed to be moved over form the old case.
-It took a month to ship to my house. After discovering these issues, I am kind've stuck with them because it would take a month to send the parts back and another month to get a replacement. By then I'll be due for a new phone.
So that's my experience of replacing the whole case.
Let me know if you have anymore questions.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
My pleasure. Glad to help out.
Sent from my Eris using XDA App
To add to this, because I'm sure there are others out there like me who intend to use their Eris until it gets run over, dropped in lava, drawn, quartered, and defecated upon . . .
I ordered the same replacement housing and digitizer as mentioned above, and had 2 small problems:
The housing I got had a nut in it that came loose, so that one of the corners wasn't able to reassemble properly.
There was something different in the new housing that caused the proximity sensor to function incorrectly.
For #1, I just used some super glue to weld the nut into place. This appears to have worked OK, but I fear that the point is weakened now and I will need to be very gentle if I disassemble the phone again.
For #2, The problem was that the housing was allowing bleed through inside the case from the proximity flasher to the light sensor, which caused the sensor to determine that there was something close to it when in fact there wasn't. I placed a small (oh so small) piece of electrical tape into the housing between where the IR flasher and sensor are located, and the problem was resolved.
If presented with the option of purchasing a new digitizer alone, or a new digitizer and housing together, follow groovel76's suggestion; it's well worth the time and money to go with the latter. The hassle of cleaning the old adhesive off of the new housing, and the risks of getting new adhesive in places where you don't want it far outweigh the cost of just getting a housing with adhesive pre-applied. I tried to do just a digitizer first, and ended up with a small amount of super glue (DO NOT RECOMMEND) getting on the new screen and the edge of the housing, as well as a screen that didn't seat properly because I didn't get quite all of the old bits out of the old housing. This resulted in dust getting under the screen and another crack when I attempted to fix what I'd screwed up the first time.
Between the availability of parts and ROMs for this phone, I see it being in my family for a LONG time yet.
Yes! Buy a digitizer online (most come with the tools you need such as the torx screwdrivers, mine did) and search for videos on youtube. That's what I did and it only cost me $37 for the digitizer and about 30 minutes of my time. And it worked perfectly as new when I got it all back together.
soooooo, i'm seriously thinking about getting this package on ebay, it's about 130 bucks and it's the entire housing for a nexus one, digitizer, and amoled screen. it's cheaper than a new phone, and since i got my nexus one on craigslist, i didn't notice the screen burn when i bought it (around the notification bar area) and the guy i bought it from had his name engraved into the back when he bought it from google. enough about that.
does anyone have any advice for a noobie about swapping out these components? i've already watched just about every youtube video about taking apart the nexus one and putting it together, but i haven't seen anyone actually take the digitizer off, all i've heard about is that the double stick tape and the foam required for it are a total pain in the ass to get right. i have also made sure that i'm getting the right kind of screen (amoled, not slcd).
is it even worth it? should i just buy a new phone if it really bothers me that much? i'm kindof looking forward to the challenge.
didn't know if this should go here or in general Q/A, mods please move if this is the wrong forum.
From what I heard, removing the digitizer is dangerous and can potentially ruin the touch function of the screen? Someone correct me if I am wrong but I think it will be a big pain in the ass.
Hi all, Merry Christmas!
Well, my Christmas isnt so merry this year. Two families (friends with their kids) stopped by for Christmas eve dinner and my son with their kids were playing and the next thing i know, my tf300's screen cracked and no display. I can see the back light turned on, but no display. My TF300's alarm was beeping, so I am guessing that the tablet is still functional, but the screen is so messed up it wont show any display.
My question is, should I even attempt to fix the screen? Or just purchased a new one? I saw many cracked screen pics and all of them were able to turn their screen on.
Please advise on what to do.
Thanks,
Sid.
What's cracked? There 2 components in there: the LCD and the Digitizer. I assume if nothing shows then the LCD is gone, but that's a guess because if there's a crack across it normally would still show some (messed up) image like vertical or horizontal lines. Now the LCD is beneath the Digitizer. If you see cracks on the surface also, that means the Dig is gone too. Which makes it easier but costlier.
You can order both for around $150.00, but replacing can be a pain unless you've delicate hands. Separating the LCD from the digitizer is boring enough but you must to do this to get to the bezel. The more meticulous part is to remove the plastic bezel around the digitizer to reuse on the new one. You have to scrape around the edge because the two parts are initially bonded together by some really strong glue.
In my opinion, it's not worth it to take it to a shop as they would charge an inordinate amount for a used device (around $200.00!!). For the inept, it's certainly damn if you do and damn if you don't. If you need more info 'bout doing it, I can help as I've done it before. Alternatively, if you decide to get a new one and part this out, I am looking for the cable and possibly touchscreen board for mine. Maybe we can work something out. Whatever.
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What's cracked? There 2 components in there: the LCD and the Digitizer. I assume if nothing shows then the LCD is gone, but that's a guess because if there's a crack across it normally would still show some (messed up) image like vertical or horizontal lines. Now the LCD is beneath the Digitizer. If you see cracks on the surface also, that means the Dig is gone too. Which makes it easier but costlier.
You can order both for around $150.00, but replacing can be a pain unless you've delicate hands. Separating the LCD from the digitizer is boring enough but you must to do this to get to the bezel. The more meticulous part is to remove the plastic bezel around the digitizer to reuse on the new one. You have to scrape around the edge because the two parts are initially bonded together by some really strong glue.
In my opinion, it's not worth it to take it to a shop as they would charge an inordinate amount for a used device (around $200.00!!). For the inept, it's certainly damn if you do and damn if you don't. If you need more info 'bout doing it, I can help as I've done it before. Alternatively, if you decide to get a new one and part this out, I am looking for the cable and possibly touchscreen board for mine. Maybe we can work something out. Whatever.
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I am not so sure what's cracked actually. But, if i press the power button, there's just black screen, no display whatsoever although i can see light shines through the cracks. So I am guessing both the LCD and the Dig are gone.
I am thinking about parting the broken one out and buy a refurbished one from walmart and get the walmart protection plan, so I dont have to worry about a broken tablet for at least 2 years.