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Hello everyone!
I sold my Athena in the favour of the upcoming HTC Touch Pro, but now I am wondering... Is it better to but the new X7510?
Can you please tell me what the differences are between the old X7500 and the new X7510?
I do know that X7510 has an 16GB SSD drive instead of the 8 GB Hard Drive, but what else is new?
With my X7500 I had some problems while watching videos, that the audio and video got out of sync after a while, I read somewhere that it was becouse the X7500 did not have the proper drivers installed, just like the Tytn II devices! Is that still an issue with the X7510?
Also I think that the X7500 did not perform very well in other applications either, to give you an example: TomTom was performing much better on the Tytn II then it was on the X7500 even tough tytn II has a slower cpu!
Please tell me if this new X7510 still has the same issues, and what more except the harddrive is changed?
Looking forward to your reply!
my X7510 is still on original HTC ROM, and running great with TomTom 7 (it comes free with TomTom 6)
i do not notice any noticeable slowdown
MP3 and Videos running fine, via my Bluetooth headsets.
coming from a Palm Treo, everything seems wAY!! faster for me. LOL
on the same topic, since i'm coming from the Palm World, i transfered my licenses to software i know by heart
Pocket Tunes for MP3 and TCPCMP for videos (freebie), and many other applications, that i transfered from Palm to PPC
I also was choosing between those two devices, and i went for the X7510 becuase big screen, and 16GB flash.
Darn, you beat me to it, I was going to post a thread on the two. You should insert a Poll, to see what people think.
You might not like the X7510 because you previously own a X7500. The major complaint is the lack of hard buttons. But for me, I don't need anything except the home button, so the X7510 is perfect for my needs.
Heres the poll!
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Darn, you beat me to it, I was going to post a thread on the two. You should insert a Poll, to see what people think.
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Inserted poll, hope there will be many voters!
cktlcmd said:
You might not like the X7510 because you previously own a X7500. The major complaint is the lack of hard buttons. But for me, I don't need anything except the home button, so the X7510 is perfect for my needs.
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Yeah I do know that there is less hardware buttons, but I dont really need them on athena anyway! The most important thing for me to know right now is if there is a problem with missing drivers like on the X7500?
How is watching videos, does it skip frames like on X7500, does the audio/video come out of sync?
What is the biggest difference in the hardware between the X7500 and X7510, does it have another chipset or what?
These are all the questions that I need answered!
I see that I'm the first voter!
For me, if my interest is in watching video (and I watch lots of them), there is a no brainer that a 5 inch screen is the way to go. I don't have any issue with the driver or anything like that. I find the video fluid and smooth, sound clear. I just do't demand it to be as good as my home theatre system in terms of clarity and sound quality that's all. I have lots of youtube collections and even if I watch them in 100% size, where the clarity is the best, the picture size is probably still as big as stretching it 200% on a 2.8 inch screen.
By the way, there is nothing wrong with the driver. I came across an article before explaining that even HTC did not know that it was not their fault that the ATI Imageon Decorder is not peforming. Apparently it is because another party had intentionally disabled some capability due to licensing and pricing issue. So it was a pricing rather than technical issue that we are not getting the best performance. If I come across that article again, I'll post it.
Other than being the best device to play video, Athena (whether it is 7500,7501, or 7510) are also best internet device out there at the moment. I've tried using iPhone which has only a miserable 3.2 inch. Although it has a very nice Safari, using it for internet is a pain. Everytime I want to see something, I have to use my finger to stretch it until the text are large enough to be readable. I then have to keep scrolling left and right to read. With Athena and Opera Mobile 1184, I can read without zooming in and out (if I set the minimum overview zoom to 85%). It is so easy.
Then, when come to using Softmaker or Office application, the 5 inch screen is simply unmatchable.
Even my TomTom 7, which runs very fast BTW, looks much better on the 5 inch than on 2.8 inch screen. Talking about TT7's speed, make sure you use the right ROM, as I did have issue with loading speed and memory on some ROM. Use the latest irus new 0MB pagepool ROM, MiChY 1.88, or Sogarth base ROM. The former two are particularly fast and TomTom friendly. My start screen is displayed in split seconds, and does not get half frozen like in some earlier ROMs.
I did have chance to play with a 2.8 inch device lately, and I was just too frustrated with the unacceptably small screen size. It is not finger friendly for me for most of the applications.
As your poll is between 7500 and TouchPro, I will not mention too much about the hardware button. However, as I use the device tablet style, I got to have those bottons. When using MP3 programs, I use it to skip song, repeat songs, volum up, down, blank screen, go to song list, etc. In mail, I use it to go to next mail, next account, etc. In news feed, the same things. When I walk around with MP3 in my pouch, I do not want to take it out, turn on the power, change a song, find a way to blank the screen, and put it back to my pouch. So, hope that settles once and for all why buttons are so indispensable for tablet style users, which I believe account for about half of Athena owners.
Another thing I should point out is that the microdrive is not less unreliable than my storage card, other than being a lot faster. This is based on my own experience after almost one and a half year of use by now.
I do not say that the Athena has no room for improvement. There are plenty to improve on. But there is no device out there good enough to replace it yet.
x7510 or Touch Pro
I currently own a x7500, Iphone 3g, HTC Diamond, Blackberry curve, blackberry pearl. Sometimes I wonder why do I need so many devices. The truth is that I like each of them for their different features. Let me share with you my knowledge from experience. HTC Diamond or HTC Pro. Though the display is sharp the screen size is way too small for serious pda users. I believe you guys are if not you will not be accessing this website. As such this device is a no no.
The Blackberry curve is good for emails as its reliable and the price plan is quite cheap. (Cheap I will explain later) Emails are really fast and reliable. Blackberry pearl, typing is not that convenient but I like it as the size of the phone is small.
The iphone 3g, its a love and hate device. A week ago, I brought it roaming in Japan. With mobile me I received about 120 emails in 2 days. Replied to about 8 of them. Check 2 websites. Made a 5 minute phone call. The bill for roaming came out to be about US$150 for that 2 days of usage. Although Mobile me is more superior as it can display pictures and html, the cost of using it overseas will make it an impractical option. In addition the emails do not arrive as fast as the blackberry emails. Someone above mentioned that you have to zoom in and out with your fingers. Actually there is an easy way. All you need to do is tap twice on the paragraph you are interested and it automatically zooms in. Video display is first class. The software seems to run smoother than pocket pc. In addition, it feels smarter and faster. Its a love and hate relationship. Though I like the software, there are many things I dislike. That is why I am still carrying my HTC Advantage
HTC Advantage x7500, is one of the best all rounder. You can edit excel, you can save any kind of documents on the device. You can sync notes and tasks with outlook. You can have tom tom or mapking on it. You can cut and paste from calendars or contacts to anywhere.
These are the things iphone cannot do. Just waiting everyday patiently for an update from Apple itunes is driving me crazy. Not only that you cannot sync it with your work and home computer. You have to pay for most of the useful software like Skype and so on
I am tempted to give my iphone to my wife and continue using the HTC Advantage.. Though I don't own a x7510. I think the main problem with it is that HTC did not spend enough efforts to main it a better device. They have the technology to increase the download speed from 1.8 mb/sec to 7.2 mb/sec but they didn't. HTC Diamond is running on 7.2 mb/sec. This actually have a big impact when you are watching youtube or slingbox using 3g. Unlimited data plan is already so common in where I live and it will be the same for the rest of the world will be so common in the next 1 to 2 years.
Hope these information help you guys in deciding which is the best device for you.
It will be very hard to acept the screen of PRO for you. After 5 inches i cant work with my Nokia E61. The main problem of Athene is the fact that ATI and HTC dont want to use the whole abilities of these phone. The ATI cheep doesnt work correct. But still X7500 is amasing. I dont need 16GB of memory, but i need hardware buttons. And i wount change my phone neither to 7510 neither HTC PRO
He is talking about the 3.6 touch pro2. I will hopefully also get it in a month or two and I think my Athena will be relegated to when i have ebooks or movies to catch upon use.
You made a big mistake the x7510 has no equal you got scammed like a sucker
branko.savic said:
hello everyone!
I sold my athena in the favour of the upcoming htc touch pro, but now i am wondering... Is it better to but the new x7510?
Can you please tell me what the differences are between the old x7500 and the new x7510?
I do know that x7510 has an 16gb ssd drive instead of the 8 gb hard drive, but what else is new?
With my x7500 i had some problems while watching videos, that the audio and video got out of sync after a while, i read somewhere that it was becouse the x7500 did not have the proper drivers installed, just like the tytn ii devices! Is that still an issue with the x7510?
Also i think that the x7500 did not perform very well in other applications either, to give you an example: Tomtom was performing much better on the tytn ii then it was on the x7500 even tough tytn ii has a slower cpu!
Please tell me if this new x7510 still has the same issues, and what more except the harddrive is changed?
Looking forward to your reply!
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DUDE YOU NEED to sell off the blackberry pearl and curve as the bold is superior to those 2 devices in every category you can even get the bold refurb for FREE on at&t the htc diamond don't even support at&t 3g a waste of money as the X7510 is superior in all aspects. I would sell off the x7500 and diamond for the x75210 or even the Leo and sell off the curve and pearl for profit and upgrade blackberry plan with bold or magnum(q4 realease) and get a better blackberry and extra $$$.
greatestkelvin said:
I currently own a x7500, Iphone 3g, HTC Diamond, Blackberry curve, blackberry pearl. Sometimes I wonder why do I need so many devices. The truth is that I like each of them for their different features. Let me share with you my knowledge from experience. HTC Diamond or HTC Pro. Though the display is sharp the screen size is way too small for serious pda users. I believe you guys are if not you will not be accessing this website. As such this device is a no no.
The Blackberry curve is good for emails as its reliable and the price plan is quite cheap. (Cheap I will explain later) Emails are really fast and reliable. Blackberry pearl, typing is not that convenient but I like it as the size of the phone is small.
The iphone 3g, its a love and hate device. A week ago, I brought it roaming in Japan. With mobile me I received about 120 emails in 2 days. Replied to about 8 of them. Check 2 websites. Made a 5 minute phone call. The bill for roaming came out to be about US$150 for that 2 days of usage. Although Mobile me is more superior as it can display pictures and html, the cost of using it overseas will make it an impractical option. In addition the emails do not arrive as fast as the blackberry emails. Someone above mentioned that you have to zoom in and out with your fingers. Actually there is an easy way. All you need to do is tap twice on the paragraph you are interested and it automatically zooms in. Video display is first class. The software seems to run smoother than pocket pc. In addition, it feels smarter and faster. Its a love and hate relationship. Though I like the software, there are many things I dislike. That is why I am still carrying my HTC Advantage
HTC Advantage x7500, is one of the best all rounder. You can edit excel, you can save any kind of documents on the device. You can sync notes and tasks with outlook. You can have tom tom or mapking on it. You can cut and paste from calendars or contacts to anywhere.
These are the things iphone cannot do. Just waiting everyday patiently for an update from Apple itunes is driving me crazy. Not only that you cannot sync it with your work and home computer. You have to pay for most of the useful software like Skype and so on
I am tempted to give my iphone to my wife and continue using the HTC Advantage.. Though I don't own a x7510. I think the main problem with it is that HTC did not spend enough efforts to main it a better device. They have the technology to increase the download speed from 1.8 mb/sec to 7.2 mb/sec but they didn't. HTC Diamond is running on 7.2 mb/sec. This actually have a big impact when you are watching youtube or slingbox using 3g. Unlimited data plan is already so common in where I live and it will be the same for the rest of the world will be so common in the next 1 to 2 years.
Hope these information help you guys in deciding which is the best device for you.
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I came from the X7500 I owned for nearly two years until it got broken - exactly when my phone contract had to be prolenged by two more years.
I was looking around for a new device and ended up to order a X7510 - I even asked my provider (T-Mobile) to sell me a new device although they hadn't listed it any more.
In my eyes there is actually no other device available offering this huge screen in addition with 16GB internal memory and the possibility to install even more memory via SD-card. I use my devica mainly for business purposes when travelling (mostly by car) - calling contacts, making appointments, adding new tasks and so on - therefore the bigger the screen the better...
The first weeks with my X7510 I was missing the hardware buttons - but meanwhile...no more.
The only thing I'm still sad of is the missing support here for my X7500 there are lots of Roms to play with and those were better than the OEM Roms
Nowadays with my X7510 I kept the original T-Mob Rom and added SPB Mobile Shell - I think the device is now very close to my ultimate phone
However - there could be a little bit more memory - maybe I'll try Michy again
Dieter
Ok, so I've been using an HTC for my last 3 phones and now have to decide if I want to go with the Raphael or the iPhone 3g. Anyone here with experience with both care to comment?
If you want a keyboard, higher res screen, multitasking, slingplayer, a wireless modem for your laptop, support from xda dev like me, then you have to get the raphael. Otherwise the iphone would be ok i suppose.
My personal opinion about the iPhone 3G is that i find it more of a gadget then a real poweruser phone.
I also like the fact that the Raphael has a keyboard and that's a must for myself.
Here's a comparison link from pdadb.net for some spec differences.
I say GO HTC!
Plus there's no Cut/Copy/Paste functionality and the only Bluetooth profiles it supports are headset and hands-free, so no file transfers or music streaming.
And you'll have to put up with poor 3G reception: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/13/iphone_not_very_3g/
kmann said:
Ok, so I've been using an HTC for my last 3 phones and now have to decide if I want to go with the Raphael or the iPhone 3g. Anyone here with experience with both care to comment?
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Sort of related to pros...
I had the Diamond for a week and sent it back as the battery life was useless. Also the device heated up a lot when in use. The last straw came when I was trying to use it on the beach and the screen was totally washed out.
I am currently trying out an iPhone, and I must admit it does most all of what I want (phone/email/web) and some more... and the screen is visible in bright sunlight! Just need to get over some missing things - and itunes. Oh, and O2 network (useless 3G - have to switch it off most of the time). Oh, and iplayer works fantastically... thats almost sold me now.
I still have my TyTn2 in case I need a MS6.1 fix, but as things are going, I doubt it.
WatskeBart said:
My personal opinion about the iPhone 3G is that i find it more of a gadget then a real poweruser phone.
I also like the fact that the Raphael has a keyboard and that's a must for myself.
Here's a comparison link from pdadb.net for some spec differences.
I say GO HTC!
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I agree with WatskeBart 100%. The iphone has impressive hardware with the exception of the lack of keyboard of course but it can't do all that a normal smartphone can do because of the software on the device. If all u want is a media player and internet browser then u should get an iphone 3g. If you are a phone techie then u will be disappointed all the way. Not to say that the touch pro can't be a media player. As i'm writing this email i'm listening to music on my touch pro and i was watching Hancock like 30 mins ago.
HTC for sure!!
I talk from personal experience as I had an iPhone 3g before selling it to buy my Touch Pro.
I had the original iPhone which i soon chopped in for an N95 8gb as it was too slow for net usage and the lack of apps was rubbish. I then got the upgrade to the 3g iPhone thinking this would be an amazing bit of kit due to 3g, GPS and the new App Store. After a week of owning it I was not impressed at all.
Firstly the 3g, its half speed of the HTC only 3.4 i think as opposed to 7.2mbs and even when it does get a 3g connection it times out constently. Then when the 3g connection drops it fails to switch to Edge or GPRS sometimes which means it will never connect.
The GPS is ok, although running google maps of both the accuracy on the TP is much better I found plus you cant put TomTom on the iPhone at present.
Then there is the app store, what a load of tosh. The apps that are free are free becos, well you wouldn't pay for them and to be honest I found I had a load of apps installed just becos you could not becos you wanted them.
I would say the only thing the iPhone does better is music and games, being an iPod it should be and the games you can buy do run very well although limted due to control system.
Another niggle i had with the iPhone is the new case, it scratches so easy and you always feel you have to treat it with cotten gloves. One day indoor use and i had hairline scratches on the apple logo
I sold my iPhone on ebay for a tidy sum and have had a week with the Touch Pro and am so glad i did it.
Plus if you geta WM you get help and support from all the peps on here, the iPhone community is no where near as good lol
2 things which bother me about iphones are
1. got a free rss program of itunestore for my ipod touch
and without copy paste one have to surf to the rss feed one wants
and write it down on a note open the rss program and write it there
silly that one cant copy paste
2. got a free ebook reader program but only way one can get ebooks is from www url's
no option to get all the ebooks on my computer into the ipod
so it's useless
suspect the lack of freedom with iphones / ipods
both consering accessing data from ones computer and
lack of SD data or even basic filesystem access
are one of their biggests problems
forgot tomtom, and a2dp. use that all the time too.... iphone cant do either.
HTC as the it can access parts of the internet the iphone carn't reach
Touch Pro rocks!
I personnally think the Touch Pro and iPhone are not / should not even in the same category at all:
- 2.8" screen for "pocketability" vs 3.5" screen for comfort
- Full qwerty keyboard vs no keyboard (granted, the on-screen keyboard on the iPhone is even better to use than PCM Keyboard on my VGA 4 inches-screened HX4700, mainly due to the capacitive touchscreen)
- On one side, the nerly endlessly extensible Windows mobile, can do anything, but you can't expect noobs to fiddle with the registry everyday and swap ROMs to have a better-working device
- On the other side, the iPhone platform is less open, but easier to use for nOobs, apps are easy to install, and (where the features are actually implemented) it just works
Surely there are other different points!
I myself just couldn't care to be ensconced in the iPhone, with clearly throttled-down features (no A2DP protocol for BT, no MMS, no video with the camera, no f#$..g copy-paste, for Krishna's sake? How hard can it be?).
My vote goes for the Touch Pro!
My 0.02$...
kmann said:
Ok, so I've been using an HTC for my last 3 phones and now have to decide if I want to go with the Raphael or the iPhone 3g. Anyone here with experience with both care to comment?
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I hope that kmann could make his decision based on our replies
plain and simple........copy and paste........nuff said.
the iphone is just a glorified Ipod, the HTC phones are usable computers in your hand and much much more.
I would suggest that you take a look at the iphone thread on the macrumours forum. You get the views of a large number of iphone owners there. To my mind, they fall into 3 categories: On the fence types, fan boy types (for whom the iphone can do no wrong) and a substantial number of people who are having real problems with the iphone - not so much the things that are missing (cut and paste, a2dp etc.) but problems with doing basic phone stufff (like making calls) and build quality issues (cracks appearing in casings, bits falling off/ stopping working etc.).
I am not an iphone hater - I have an Ipod touch with the very latest firmware on - it is a great music player and some of the apps from the apple store are good fun - I have even bought a couple! I have also spent a couple hours playing with the latest iphone (a friends'), as a phone and a serious business tool, it just didn't cut it for me.
Ok, time to chime on again. Thanks all for your input. I've got 30 years of experience in deep IT technology. I've programmed Operating Systems, hardware etc. I've cooked my own ROMs for the HTC phones. And maybe I'm getting old and tired of fighting the hassles, but you've got to admit the iPhone is sexy, and simple.
Sure I understand the limitations, for example, I use push email and Calendar sync and I realize Apple has yet to fully implement the ActiveSync APIs which causes issues.
So I am in a quandry. Am I tired of fighting the custom ROMs and having the some extra features I rarely use, or do I want sexy and simplicity.
Ah, I guess we live in great times when these are the decisions I have to wrestle with.
kmann said:
Ok, time to chime on again. Thanks all for your input. I've got 30 years of experience in deep IT technology. I've programmed Operating Systems, hardware etc. I've cooked my own ROMs for the HTC phones. And maybe I'm getting old and tired of fighting the hassles, but you've got to admit the iPhone is sexy, and simple.
Sure I understand the limitations, for example, I use push email and Calendar sync and I realize Apple has yet to fully implement the ActiveSync APIs which causes issues.
So I am in a quandry. Am I tired of fighting the custom ROMs and having the some extra features I rarely use, or do I want sexy and simplicity.
Ah, I guess we live in great times when these are the decisions I have to wrestle with.
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i got sexy, simplicity as well as configurability. NOkia E71 (white steel). cant go wrong, 3.5G, BT, WIFI, GPS. all works as it should. IM using Garmint Mobile XT with Australia NT Maps 2009 without any issues, BT works like a charm, music player is fantastic, 8GB microsdhc card is fast.
dont know what else to say, im glad i bought this phone.
jasjamming said:
i got sexy, simplicity as well as configurability. NOkia E71 (white steel). cant go wrong, 3.5G, BT, WIFI, GPS. all works as it should. IM using Garmint Mobile XT with Australia NT Maps 2009 without any issues, BT works like a charm, music player is fantastic, 8GB microsdhc card is fast.
dont know what else to say, im glad i bought this phone.
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Wow, one of the top chefs of all time goes with the E71 (it is a badass device btw). Are you considering getting a touch pro and cooking for it or are you just chillin in the forums (hope its the former or your part of the elite project).
I will go for the Raphael because of this great forum here, but as far as I have compared these two phones in action I must say that at this moment the only advantage of the Raphael is the keyboard, if you really need one:
1. The screen resolution of the iphone is not VGA, but the screen size is bigger (3.5 against 2.8) and this is a big advantage. The screen quality is great and the keyboard is bigger because of the size, so for many people it is not a problem to type.
2. Programs start much faster on iphone. Yes, they do!
3. The OS is much more stable for the moment. Plus, iphone comes with a stable version of a web browser, not with a beta version of Opera (which I like, but still it is beta!).
4. The iphone is really easy to use.
Cheers,
Eriol
Eriol said:
I will go for the Raphael because of this great forum here, but as far as I have compared these two phones in action I must say that at this moment the only advantage of the Raphael is the keyboard, if you really need one:
1. The screen resolution of the iphone is not VGA, but the screen size is bigger (3.5 against 2.8) and this is a big advantage. The screen quality is great and the keyboard is bigger because of the size, so for many people it is not a problem to type.
2. Programs start much faster on iphone. Yes, they do!
3. The OS is much more stable for the moment. Plus, iphone comes with a stable version of a web browser, not with a beta version of Opera (which I like, but still it is beta!).
4. The iphone is really easy to use.
Cheers,
Eriol
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I also agree with Eriols arguments. The program starting part can be quick on HTC i think that depends on how your ROM is configured.
Eriol said:
I will go for the Raphael because of this great forum here, but as far as I have compared these two phones in action I must say that at this moment the only advantage of the Raphael is the keyboard, if you really need one:
1. The screen resolution of the iphone is not VGA, but the screen size is bigger (3.5 against 2.8) and this is a big advantage. The screen quality is great and the keyboard is bigger because of the size, so for many people it is not a problem to type.
2. Programs start much faster on iphone. Yes, they do!
3. The OS is much more stable for the moment. Plus, iphone comes with a stable version of a web browser, not with a beta version of Opera (which I like, but still it is beta!).
4. The iphone is really easy to use.
Cheers,
Eriol
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I think that brings it back to what WatskeBart said earlier about the iphone being a gadget not a power house phone. Don't get me wrong I have nothing against the iphone i think the hardware is excellent for a second try but there need to be some tweaking. They should open up the software and do like google did for andriod offer 10k for the best iphone progs.
I need some help people. I will be upgrading from my N95 this year. I am currently very pleased with the functionality of the phone, it does everything I could possible want, and it does it fairly quickly. I love the Speakers and the multimedia capabilities. So, I wanted to know, if I choose to upgrade to the X1 (Rogers will be getting it this year), how disappointed will I be? I really want a touch screen phone with a qwerty keyboard, so i'm stuck between the X1 and the touch Pro.
I was originally going for the Touch Pro, but I like the larger screen on the X1 and the ability to put Yado or Yada ( forget how to spell it) tabs or what ever in it. Also, there seems to be a large amount of complaints as to the build quality.
I will of course be testing the devices when they are released a month or two from now, but wanted some input. If I ultimately don't like either device I will be upgrading to the N96, selling it and buying the N97 unlocked later on this year.
So I guess my main question is, How disappointed will I be if I choose to upgrade to the X1 or the Touch pro?
Edit* do either of the phones support hand writing? And how accurate is it?
Well...
Both X1 or Touch Pro are great devices, and OS Windows Mobile 6.1 is much much greater than any Symbian OS, appart from that upgrading to any of those you mentioned you´ll have the support of this great site (Not with Nokia)
My personal recommendation would be the X1, and don´t think you will disapointed.
Good luck on your decision!
i went from a n95 to a touch diamond. i still miss the ease of use of the n95. im kinda regretting the decision.
Why not wait for the N97 if you're already so at home with the Symbian OS?
Myself, I can't pick just one phone. I have a Nokia E90 and an O2 XDA EXEC and depending on what I need to use my phone for on a particular day, I put my SIM in the phone most suited for this. And Nokia PC Suite and WMDC both work well allowing me to keep all my stuff up to date on both phones.
I upgraded from the e90 because of the touch screen.
Well, forget to be fine with WM, i am very disappointed.
Wait for n97.
alessio
The thing is, If I upgrade to the X1 or Touch Pro I will get a $650 credit. If I dont I have to pay out of pocket, or upgrade and sell the phone.
I love symbians functionality, but its boring IMO. I like the eye candy of touch flow more.
With the N97, i dont like the Dpad being on the left, and as I stated before, S60 is boring . So I think I may just end up going to the X1.
There are a lot of stuff far worse done by the current HTC or S-E lineup:
- camera
- no call recording
- no stereo speakers
If you (would) use these, go for the N97 instead.
S60 is boring indeed... I've been a symbian S60 user for many years and I don't regret switching to wm 2 years ago... With wm the possibilities are endless...
Most S60 3rd Ed devices are very easy to use compared to wm devices but that's because they're designed to act more like feature phones even though they're actually smartphones. so you may find the X1 or Pro a bit complicated at first but after a while you'll love having a full fledged pc in your pocket
With wm you can do most of the stuff that you can do on a PC...
owziee said:
S60 is boring indeed... I've been a symbian S60 user for many years and I don't regret switching to wm 2 years ago... With wm the possibilities are endless...
Most S60 3rd Ed devices are very easy to use compared to wm devices but that's because they're designed to act more like feature phones even though they're actually smartphones. so you may find the X1 or Pro a bit complicated at first but after a while you'll love having a full fledged pc in your pocket
With wm you can do most of the stuff that you can do on a PC...
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Yes, but when used as a plain phone or as a multimedia device, unfortunately, HTC's current lineup has major problems. This is why I'm not absolutely sure he (she)'ll like the change.
Just remember that although the screen on the X1 may be "bigger" it is significantly narrower, that 480 pixel width occupies a smaller space. The X1 is definately an impressive device, but when compared to my touch pro, the narrow screen and lack of accelerometer were the deal breaker for me.
Mind you I love the panel interface which aaaaalmost makes up for it, but I love my TP and dont regret my decision in the slightest
Menneisyys said:
There are a lot of stuff far worse done by the current HTC or S-E lineup:
- camera
- no call recording
- no stereo speakers
If you (would) use these, go for the N97 instead.
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How much worse is the quality of the camera on the X1? I dont mind no call recording, and stereo speakers is something that I might worry about. How decent are the speakers though, compared to the N95?
owziee said:
S60 is boring indeed... I've been a symbian S60 user for many years and I don't regret switching to wm 2 years ago... With wm the possibilities are endless...
Most S60 3rd Ed devices are very easy to use compared to wm devices but that's because they're designed to act more like feature phones even though they're actually smartphones. so you may find the X1 or Pro a bit complicated at first but after a while you'll love having a full fledged pc in your pocket
With wm you can do most of the stuff that you can do on a PC...
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Good to hear about ur positive switch. WM looks complicated looking at all the different ROMs and Radios which can be flashed.
Menneisyys said:
Yes, but when used as a plain phone or as a multimedia device, unfortunately, HTC's current lineup has major problems. This is why I'm not absolutely sure he (she)'ll like the change.
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Alrighty, so Multimedia usage is out? Crap.
euphoria47 said:
Just remember that although the screen on the X1 may be "bigger" it is significantly narrower, that 480 pixel width occupies a smaller space. The X1 is definately an impressive device, but when compared to my touch pro, the narrow screen and lack of accelerometer were the deal breaker for me.
Mind you I love the panel interface which aaaaalmost makes up for it, but I love my TP and dont regret my decision in the slightest
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I find that im just using the accelerometer for playing ball games such as marble maze (similar to teeter I think) on my N95.
I always thought that the screen was bigger on the Touch Pro width and Length? So that means its just longer?
Have you experienced and issues with your phone? And how did the keyboard compare to the X1's?
Do both phones support hand writing recognition?
Menneisyys said:
There are a lot of stuff far worse done by the current HTC or S-E lineup:
- camera
- no call recording
- no stereo speakers
If you (would) use these, go for the N97 instead.
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I got the HTC touch hd, and dont know what your talking about, the camera is great, ot only doesnt have a flash, but what flash on any mobile phone does create good pictures in the dark? I have yet to see a single phone that takes good looking pictures in the dark. I got call recording on it but ok i installed that custom. Stereo speakers are overrated imho, because any phone speakers suck anyway, at least for playing music, you should play music with earbuds, or trough car radio.
Maedhros said:
I find that im just using the accelerometer for playing ball games such as marble maze (similar to teeter I think) on my N95.
I always thought that the screen was bigger on the Touch Pro width and Length? So that means its just longer?
Have you experienced and issues with your phone? And how did the keyboard compare to the X1's?
Do both phones support hand writing recognition?
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1.I think you are right, the x1 seems longer, but it is the same.
2.I prefer the keyboard to the touch pro.
3.Both support handwriting recognition.
This link may be of interest to you:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x1-review-303.php
^ a review which compares X1 to touch pro
Snuurtje said:
I got the HTC touch hd, and dont know what your talking about, the camera is great, ot only doesnt have a flash, but what flash on any mobile phone does create good pictures in the dark? I have yet to see a single phone that takes good looking pictures in the dark. I got call recording on it but ok i installed that custom. Stereo speakers are overrated imho, because any phone speakers suck anyway, at least for playing music, you should play music with earbuds, or trough car radio.
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Yea, im sure their good, but coming from the N95, Carl Zeiss Optics lens + 5mp Camera. But it did suck at night shots.
I actually enjoyed listening to music through the N95 when im doing something and I dont want earbuds getting in my way.
euphoria47 said:
1.I think you are right, the x1 seems longer, but it is the same.
2.I prefer the keyboard to the touch pro.
3.Both support handwriting recognition.
This link may be of interest to you:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x1-review-303.php
^ a review which compares X1 to touch pro
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Good to know u liked the X1's keyboard more than the touch Pros. Touch Pros just seems more functional, and I like the rubbery feel (at least on Bells CDMA version)
Ok, so I can writing something with the stylus, and it will transfer it into text? So I can use it as an alternative text input method?
When you buy a S60 v3 FP1 phone, that will stay a S60 v3 FP1 phone forever.
I bought my Himalaya, brandnew, running Windows 2003 long time ago (cant remember the date). Comes the Windows 2003SE, I was able to upgrade it to Windows 2003SE. Then the Magneto, to Crossbow, and now, my beloved aging Himalaya is running WinMo 6.1. I'm hoping that there's a 6.5 upgrade for Himalaya.
Hey, listen!
Sadly, my old Xperia X1 is nearing the end of it's journey. Most of the physical keys are nearly broken (I got to push them extra hard for them to work), the case is cracked in several places, there are deep scratches and what appears to be super glue on the screen, the power/data I/O hole as well as the headphone hole have gone loose, it's got a nasty case of the SODs and the battery is almost dead (8 hours max on minimal use). It seems it's time to get a new phone. Oh, the excitement!
The thing is, I've seriously fallen behind on the smartphone news and have next to no idea about the new phones in the market. And there are lots and lots of them...
So, how about I give you a list of what I use the phone for, what I'm used to, what I prefer and what I need and you kind gentlemen help this poor sod get himself a new phone!
What I use the phone for, in descending importance (the app I've been using so far in brackets):
Calling/texting
Alarm clock (G-Alarm)
Internet browsing (Opera Mobile)
GPS (Google Maps)
Facebook
MP3 player (Nitrogen)
Taking notes (OneNote Mobile)
YouTube
Remote desktop (RealVNC)
Watching movies and playing games on trips
What I'm used to (that is, not mandatory):
Windows Mobile
HTC Sense
What I prefer or would want (that is, a huge bonus if the feature is, well, featured):
Resistive over capacitive touchscreen
Hardware media keys (or hardware keys programmable to media keys)
Facebook integration (downloading profile pictures for contacts pictures etc.)
What I need:
Faster than Xperia X1
Better battery life than Xperia X1 (not difficult...)
Slider QWERTY-keyboard
3,5mm headphone jack
Inbuilt GPS
Any and all help is highly appreciated!
Reserved for phones I'm considering etc.
(Currently HTC Desire Z is the only one I've been looking at, but it seems it has problems of its own.)
Xperia x10/arc/neo/ray these are awesome i like the most ray because its reallly good looking !
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My list of demands for a phone is close to what yours is
Currently I have an xperia x10 mini pro, which excels at almost all of those things.. but battery life has a bit to be desired. The one i have is the older model, the new one just came out (they dropped the x10, so it's the xperia mini pro).
I've also been eying the "xperia pro" which is not even out yet... but i think i may have found my next phone
Galaxy S is good choice
Thanks for your replies, guys, but sadly none of your suggestions has a physical keyboard. Apart from the X10 Mini Pro, but it doesn't really feel like a significant upgrade compared to the X1.
Can anyone with a HTC Desire Z tell me about it's drawbacks?
I’m not up with modern tech..I want to replace my O2 orbit (htc p3300), I know its ancient but I find the whole process utterly confusing.
Please any advice would be gratefully received and I must point out I have a limited budget; I’d prefer to buy a phone rather than contract.
One of the things I’m confused about is windows phones and pocket pc, my only concern is I have Tomtom for my Orbit and I don’t particularly want to buy another sat nav software package.
Ideally I’m looking for something that has mini usb, gps, fm radio, micro sd and blue tooth. The reason I want to upgrade is that my orbit has been running so slow lately.
if i did understand...
you are asking for a phone?
Huawei u8800 Ideos x5, cheap and good android smartphone with all that features, and games run good too on that
Xperia neo (my phone) great camera 8mp, will get altest ics update, faster processor than u8800, it haves 800mhz, xperia neo haves 1ghz
samsung galaxy gio: cheap phone with gingerbread and good samsung quality, small screen packed all these features etc, 800mhz processor
samsung galaxy mini: tiny 600mhz processor, really cheap, useless for gaming, good for checking facebook, it haves microsd card slot and gps etc check those phones, had all of them
Akizella said:
you are asking for a phone?
Huawei u8800 Ideos x5, cheap and good android smartphone with all that features, and games run good too on that
Xperia neo (my phone) great camera 8mp, will get altest ics update, faster processor than u8800, it haves 800mhz, xperia neo haves 1ghz
samsung galaxy gio: cheap phone with gingerbread and good samsung quality, small screen packed all these features etc, 800mhz processor
samsung galaxy mini: tiny 600mhz processor, really cheap, useless for gaming, good for checking facebook, it haves microsd card slot and gps etc check those phones, had all of them
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Will these phones run the TomTom software I have?
Will Pocket PC software run on windows phone???
Windows Mobile software won't run on Windows Phone so you're going to lose your TomTom software either way as you won't get a new Windows Mobile device - it's been phased out and replaced by Windows Phone.
I know that's a pain with regards to your satnav software, but it does open up the playing field to include every phone on the market now. Your real choice is between the OSs out there. I suggest picking one of them and then narrowing down your phone choice on requirements after that.
Just spend a day or two on the internet looking at different devices and then maybe visit a few shops to have a play with some of them.
I’ve been looking at a second hand HTC HD mini....I'm assuming its Pocket PC because its runs WM 6.5.3.....???
Sorry for being a plank, but I’m kinda overwhelmed by all the choices and I don’t understand a lot about the subject in the first place.
orbitalschool said:
I’ve been looking at a second hand HTC HD mini....I'm assuming its Pocket PC because its runs WM 6.5.3.....???
Sorry for being a plank, but I’m kinda overwhelmed by all the choices and I don’t understand a lot about the subject in the first place.
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Yes, it's a Pocket PC. If you like the look of that then go for it. Alternatively, if you've got a bit more money to spend then look at the HTC Touch HD or the HTC HD2. I have both those devices and they were great. I also had paid navigation software which I lost when I came to Android, but it's no biggie because the free navigation software with Android is just as good (it requires a data connection though as maps aren't local).
Archer said:
Yes, it's a Pocket PC. If you like the look of that then go for it. Alternatively, if you've got a bit more money to spend then look at the HTC Touch HD or the HTC HD2. I have both those devices and they were great. I also had paid navigation software which I lost when I came to Android, but it's no biggie because the free navigation software with Android is just as good (it requires a data connection though as maps aren't local).
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Funny I looked at a review, out of the three they rated the HD mini tops because of the glass screen.......Don’t trust these web site reviews, always an agenda.