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What's my cheapest option to trial GPS Navigation?

Hi all
I'm toying with the idea of getting a GPS based navigation system to use with my QTEK 2020i.
I think that the Navigator kits are quite pricey for someone who isn't sure they;lll get the use out of them though.
What's my cheapest option if I wanted to try this stuff out?
I don't mind buying a generic GPS receiver as I'm sure I can use it for something else (!?????) other than satnav.
Is it as simple as buying one of those £29 GPS reciever jobbys off ebay and then downloading a trial version of tomtom???
Cheers all
Wayne

there is no version for trialing tomtom. your best bet would be to to buy a kit from 1 of the online shops to be honest and i wouldn't recomend ebay as they are not legal copy's and hence don't work properly

andy-c1 said:
there is no version for trialing tomtom. your best bet would be to to buy a kit from 1 of the online shops to be honest and i wouldn't recomend ebay as they are not legal copy's and hence don't work properly
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eh?
So I can't download like a 30-day trial!...How do they expect people to know if the product is anygood?
I know it probably is but that for me isn't the point...I want to see if I'll actually use it and how I'll use it, that's how I'll know if it's worth me buying it.
Cheers
Wayne

Well, I bought a Qstarz BT-Q880 32-channel GPS receiver, which works excellently with the XDA 2i and TomTom 5.
However, I did download TomTom 5 via BitTorrent... Purely for evaluation purposes. Of course.
If you have €369 to lend me (with long-term repayments at a low interest rate) so I can buy the damn thing straight away, then hell I'll buy it straight away. I do think they charge an arm and a leg - and the Plus maps (the more detailed versions of the maps) cost a good €150 extra - at least.
The long and short of it is that you'll have to break the law in some way or another if you want to evaluate GPS software before you make your own purchase of the software - which I do intend to do when I have the cash (Uni students don't really have that much spare to be honest, but I do buy the software for my XDA whenever I can).

just to say though, no matter how you aquire the software, a basic GPS receiver is still gonna cost you around £45 - £50 via Ebay.
And I'm not sure what other use you would have for it other than SatNav, except maybe wifi hotspot logging.

Geocacheing!

Gajet said:
just to say though, no matter how you aquire the software, a basic GPS receiver is still gonna cost you around £45 - £50 via Ebay.
And I'm not sure what other use you would have for it other than SatNav, except maybe wifi hotspot logging.
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still, that's a lot cheaper than paying £££ on TomTom!
If I did it this way and then used a less-than-legit version to trial it, I could then upgrade to a proper version later and then sell the GPS receiver.
If I buy TomTom now and don't use/like it then I stand to loose a lot more money (especially seeing as the general impression people seem to have is that TomTom on ebay is fake or no good).
...you see my predicament
Cheers
Wayne

If you did fancy Geocaching or even just the chance of an Ordanace survey map. I recommend 'aquiring' a copy Memory Map too. I have both on my xda iis, Tomtom drives you to the local area, and memory map will plot everything after that.

Now that sounds like a plan...

Gajet said:
If you did fancy Geocaching or even just the chance of an Ordanace survey map. I recommend 'aquiring' a copy Memory Map too. I have both on my xda iis, Tomtom drives you to the local area, and memory map will plot everything after that.
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Geowhating? Sorry to sound dumb but you've lost me now :S
Cheers
Wayne

dispite all it's bad press on most websites tomtom on the whole is a very good product ,i persoanlly havn't had any reall issues with tomtom apart from the problem being the sd card being to slow with the 2i , i've signed up for the traffic updates which i find to be about 90% correct
i also think most of the problems arise because people are using illegal versions

andy-c1 said:
dispite all it's bad press on most websites tomtom on the whole is a very good product ,i persoanlly havn't had any reall issues with tomtom apart from the problem being the sd card being to slow with the 2i , i've signed up for the traffic updates which i find to be about 90% correct
i also think most of the problems arise because people are using illegal versions
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Not sure I agree with the problems all being down to illegal copies (more so on the 2i).
This is my main concern. If I shell out for an app that crashes etc with little to no support/help from TomTom.
As it is I will probably try a dodgy copy and if it's stable I'll get a proper version. I know that a bad copy may be the cause of the crashes but with TomTom not supplying a trial copy how do they expect people to make an informed decision? You wouldn't buy a car without test driving it would you?!
Nearly all software (including that on the Pocket PC platform) provide trial versions. I've even seen some posts on here to suggest that TomTom used to do this...but not now for some reason?
Lost business I say.
Cheers
Wayne

dotn got to halford and have play with a tomtom go or one the app is the same as is the maps as anis the andy says there have been problems with the 2i this is mainly down to a hardware issue the way round it most users have found is to get a the fastest sd card you can find currently mappopolis is the olny vendor to have a 30 day trial

Aye, I must say for the record that TomTom on my 2i MOSTLY works fine, it only crashes out if you do something like try to use the Ring Number feature - it'll show the screen, but as soon as you select the Point Of Interest category you want, it has a think about it then crashes back to the desktop.
The same if you load up too many Points of Interest on a map, I've also found. I guess that's most likely down to the fairly old SD card I have, an old PNY 256Mb card - but it does the job very nicely, and just has enough space on it (6.66Mb! remaining) to store the TT files, the Netherlands map and the Great Britain Plus map. If you want to load more maps though, you'll definitely need the 1Gb card, the France plus map is something like 370mb - and the main Western Europe map is even bigger.

DotN said:
Geowhating? Sorry to sound dumb but you've lost me now :S
Cheers
Wayne
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I can't say I've ever tried it, but Geocaching is a bit of a GPS treasure hunt. People leave these caches hidden in "interesting" places and provide the GPS coordinates to a website, then other people can use their GPS devices to locate the cache and leave a message in the notebook, take photos with the camera or maybe even recieve a little prize. It's for those odd people who go outside, when they could be huddled up in the warm over their PC's
If that vaguely interests you you could look at
http://www.gagb.org.uk/

DotN said:
Hi all
I'm toying with the idea of getting a GPS based navigation system to use with my QTEK 2020i.
I think that the Navigator kits are quite pricey for someone who isn't sure they;lll get the use out of them though.
What's my cheapest option if I wanted to try this stuff out?
I don't mind buying a generic GPS receiver as I'm sure I can use it for something else (!?????) other than satnav.
Is it as simple as buying one of those £29 GPS reciever jobbys off ebay and then downloading a trial version of tomtom???
Cheers all
Wayne
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www.mapopolis.com

Mapopolis looks promising from the site, their bundles are quite handy if you don't want all the extra steps of buying the phone holder, buying the carkit... All of which I did, hasssssssle - I do think I would miss the nifty 3D view which TomTom displays whilst you're navigating your way through the world, but I guess that's only because I'm feeling spoilt now.
When it comes to caching, geocaching.com used to be one of the definitive sources of info on the net, but it's suffering server problems at the moment.
Other good sites:
http://www.gpss.tripoduk.com/caching/
http://www.gagb.org.uk/guidelines/guidelines.php - deserves a second mention, as it's a very useful site...
And of course, http://www.geocaching.org.uk/ ! Get caching kiddos.

mapopolis
download mapopolis demo and ill show u how to register it free...its good software and free!

christopherwoods said:
Aye, I must say for the record that TomTom on my 2i MOSTLY works fine, it only crashes out if you do something like try to use the Ring Number feature - it'll show the screen, but as soon as you select the Point Of Interest category you want, it has a think about it then crashes back to the desktop.
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have you upgraded your tomtom as mine did exactly the same till the new upgrade i havn't had to soft reset since then

I don't have to soft reset, the program just crashes back to the Today screen. I don't really need to use the Ring Number feature anyway, kinda pointless as I can just 118 500.
The issue is moot anyway, since I'm using a less-than-100%-legitimate copy... I'm sure once I have a job post-University I'll be able to afford to buy it, but until then I'm not keeping my hopes up.

Gps software

Hello all, I just got and unlocked htc fuze running elite rc2, phone works great, loving it until now but I really wanna make use of the GPS feature. I,ve heard dozens of people saying that they found free gps software like tom tom or garmin or igo to install on their fuze. Id really like having a gps like that with turn by turn nav and not have to use my 3g network, if anyone can help me, i barely had the cash to dish out to get the phone, dont have more money to waste on gps software.
thanks in advance!!

Just where are you trying to lead your thread to...??

well im trying to post to anyone who owns a raphael, that may have an answer for me

discussing or distributing, pirated software is not allowed in this forum

misfitwrx said:
discussing or distributing, pirated software is not allowed in this forum
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And there it is...

ah ok, well its my first smart phone, when i saw that there were all those ways to mod and tweak the phone for free like themes, clocks and much more for free, i thought there were ways to get the gps to work for free also, no problem, thanks for the help anyways

google maps, any good?

tonyfuntime said:
Hello all, I just got and unlocked htc fuze running elite rc2, phone works great, loving it until now but I really wanna make use of the GPS feature. I,ve heard dozens of people saying that they found free gps software like tom tom or garmin or igo to install on their fuze. Id really like having a gps like that with turn by turn nav and not have to use my 3g network, if anyone can help me, i barely had the cash to dish out to get the phone, dont have more money to waste on gps software.
thanks in advance!!
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You might want to try amazegps.com. It is free and has turn by turn directions. It is free (ad supported). In the next rev (March or April) they are telling us that the route maps will be downloadable. This prevents losing your way when you go out of tower coverage (which happens with Google Maps).
I only installed it 2 days ago and have used it once. It seemed to work pretty well and having the turn by turn sounds is an improvement over google maps.

I,ve heard dozens of people saying that they found free gps software like tom tom or garmin or igo
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NONE if these are FREE. I guess we should close this thread.

Anyone tried Navigon on Transformer?

I really loved Navigon on IOS so when it was announced that it has been updated for Honeycomb I broke down and spent $40. Well, not only do I get frequent force closes I also can not locate the Options menu. I just deleted and reinstalled it, waiting for all the downloads to finish. Has anyone been successful with Navigon on their Transformer?

AnyMal said:
I really loved Navigon on IOS so when it was announced that it has been updated for Honeycomb I broke down and spent $40. Well, not only do I get frequent force closes I also can not locate the Options menu. I just deleted and reinstalled it, waiting for all the downloads to finish. Has anyone been successful with Navigon on their Transformer?
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Maybe you should cancel the order and get a refund until somebody confirms it's working ;P

Itaintrite said:
Maybe you should cancel the order and get a refund until somebody confirms it's working ;P
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How do I do that?

AnyMal said:
How do I do that?
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Contact Navigon customer service and tell them the problems your having. They should give you a refund.

AnyMal said:
I really loved Navigon on IOS so when it was announced that it has been updated for Honeycomb I broke down and spent $40. Well, not only do I get frequent force closes I also can not locate the Options menu. I just deleted and reinstalled it, waiting for all the downloads to finish. Has anyone been successful with Navigon on their Transformer?
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Google Maps navigation? I sure did. It works spectacularly, and its FREE.

silenceforus said:
Google Maps navigation? I sure did. It works spectacularly, and its FREE.
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Google Maps require an internet connection to download the maps. Navigon stores all maps locally so you can use it anywhere you can get a GPS signal.

Itaintrite said:
Google Maps require an internet connection to download the maps. Navigon stores all maps locally so you can use it anywhere you can get a GPS signal.
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I bought CoPilot a while back for $5. Google Maps still beats the pants off it (not surprising, IMNSHO it's better still than my standalone Navigon), but I've got CoPilot installed as a backup for when i'm out of signal. Works just fine on the Transformer as well.

silenceforus said:
Google Maps navigation? I sure did. It works spectacularly, and its FREE.
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I can't always rely on a strong connection when I travel through rural areas, hence why I chose Navigon.

AnyMal said:
I can't always rely on a strong connection when I travel through rural areas, hence why I chose Navigon.
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OOoooooh. I didn't even consider the option of having a fully downloaded app. It'd be cool if google would allow an app that we could pay for, for a fully downloaded app. Perhaps someone could hack the app to do this?

silenceforus said:
OOoooooh. I didn't even consider the option of having a fully downloaded app. It'd be cool if google would allow an app that we could pay for, for a fully downloaded app. Perhaps someone could hack the app to do this?
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I don't know why Google hasn't thought/allowed that. There are hacks to pre-cache maps but they are cumbersome and don't always work well.

Cant get Navigon to work I get force closed when I start the app to bad I love it on my Nexus S

Does anyone try iGo in that resolution ?

ConstantineXVI said:
I bought CoPilot a while back for $5. Google Maps still beats the pants off it (not surprising, IMNSHO it's better still than my standalone Navigon), but I've got CoPilot installed as a backup for when i'm out of signal. Works just fine on the Transformer as well.
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Same here, I bought CoPilot for my Nexus One and find it work well on the TF.
I still prefer Google Map over it unless I need to use it.
I did try Google Map tile catching on the tablet and it work well.

shumar said:
Does anyone try iGo in that resolution ?
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I have motonav Nav N Go 8.4.2.11 running with resolution 800 x 480 only, so it only a portion of the screen, but it work good, and utilized the GPS well, I wish they have a xoom version coming soon.

I'll just second the Google Navigation. I tried it a couple of times and it worked great. It wasn't really a reason for me to buy the Tablet, just added value.

google maps is a completely different app.
for me, I use CoPilot live, IMO it's the best out there right now (even speaks street names!) that has full Canada and US Maps.
Google maps is good for taking a quick peek at where you are going. I only have my GPS on when I go cross border, so if I were to stream maps off google's servers over my 3G connection, I would get dry anal raped by my bill.

I'm also using copilot and so far it is great. My old TomTom is falling apart so I need a new gps anyway, so this will keeping me from buying another gadget. I've never seen a gps unit that is as fast as the TF is running copilot.

co-pilot
n25philly said:
I'm also using copilot and so far it is great. My old TomTom is falling apart so I need a new gps anyway, so this will keeping me from buying another gadget. I've never seen a gps unit that is as fast as the TF is running copilot.
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I have the North American version of co-pilot on my nexus s and love it. How did you get it working on your eee pad? It wants me to pay for it again.

ShotEm said:
I have the North American version of co-pilot on my nexus s and love it. How did you get it working on your eee pad? It wants me to pay for it again.
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You can use the same receipt number and access code to authorize the TF as you did on your phone. That is how i was able to use it on both my Captivate and TF.

The amazon appstore has some kind of navigation app for free today. Might be worth checking out.

Can someone suggest decent navigation software?

I'm new to the forum. My Tilt2's screen died, and AT&T let me do an early upgrade to the Inspire. I have been using Garmin Mobile XT on my Tilt2 as my navigator in my car. I won't receive my new Inspire until Thursday. Does it come with navigation out of the box? I was hoping to utilize the on-board GPS, not rely on an internet connection. Can you suggest something similar to Garmin or Tom Tom. I like cheap. Thanks for your help.

I really miss Garmin Mobile XT from Tilt2 and HD2, too. It comes with Google Maps and Navigation but the best I've found so far is CoPilot Live in the market. I would think that Garmin would eventually release their software for Android since one of the Garmin phones ran Android but I don't have any idea when that might be.

volumnus said:
I'm new to the forum. My Tilt2's screen died, and AT&T let me do an early upgrade to the Inspire. I have been using Garmin Mobile XT on my Tilt2 as my navigator in my car. I won't receive my new Inspire until Thursday. Does it come with navigation out of the box? I was hoping to utilize the on-board GPS, not rely on an internet connection. Can you suggest something similar to Garmin or Tom Tom. I like cheap. Thanks for your help.
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Google navigation
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dooyoo222 said:
Google navigation
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I love the google nav

Google Nav or Mapquest
Both are decent and free, and Mapquest upgraded their voice directions piece. I think you will be VERY happy with your Inspire, and you will find either of these to get you (literally) where you want to go.

TeleNav
10 char

I use the google nav too its stock on the phone out of the box and I love it. But it does require data usage.

CoPilot is great because of the offline use, fantastic for traveling in areas with poor network connection.

Try navigon now on the market. It's way better than copilot but it's about $30 while you can get copilot for $5.
I have copilot because it was the only thing available on the market at the time but if I could choose today I would go with navigon as it have better maps and routing.
Copilot have a drm/licensing hell and if you're into flashing new roms be ready to mail their tech support often requesting a reset on the activation.

Has anyone tried the copilot app? Is it worth the cost?
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I miss my Garmin voices but Google Navigation isn't bad after upgrading the tts engine to svox it's ok. The maps are more up to date at least.

Google nav is good but the one I used on my old Tilt 2 was Waze. Its pertty fun and interactive to use pluss, iff alit of other people use waze n urr area, it can give you live traffic updates based on there pls position and speed. Allso, u can report accedents or other road hazzards for everyone to see. Verry usefull gps.
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i used this on my fascinate. crazy as hell to download, nice software though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108760

Yup, last night I downloaded Waze and it was fun and informative. If there were a lot of people using Waze then we were able to see where the traps were and the accidents. Nice navigation app!
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Google nav is good but the one I used on my old Tilt 2 was Waze. Its pertty fun and interactive to use pluss, iff alit of other people use waze n urr area, it can give you live traffic updates based on there pls position and speed. Allso, u can report accedents or other road hazzards for everyone to see. Verry usefull gps.
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ottergap said:
I really miss Garmin Mobile XT from Tilt2 and HD2, too. It comes with Google Maps and Navigation but the best I've found so far is CoPilot Live in the market. I would think that Garmin would eventually release their software for Android since one of the Garmin phones ran Android but I don't have any idea when that might be.
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Big ups to CoPilot, I paid $5 on the Market, maps can be downloaded for free, and there is no data charge incurred when you use it. Working great for me.

LGSilva said:
Try navigon now on the market. It's way better than copilot but it's about $30 while you can get copilot for $5.
I have copilot because it was the only thing available on the market at the time but if I could choose today I would go with navigon as it have better maps and routing.
Copilot have a drm/licensing hell and if you're into flashing new roms be ready to mail their tech support often requesting a reset on the activation.
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If you backup and restore CoPilot (app and data) with Titanium Backup, it does not require re-activation.

smalis said:
If you backup and restore CoPilot (app and data) with Titanium Backup, it does not require re-activation.
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That not always work...
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Looking for Offline Maps

My wife and are are headed to New Orleans this week (From STL).
Today, just for a test, I took out my note and tried the GPS. I was under the assumption that maps would load, and the GPS would give us location. I was wrong. It seems you have to do available offline in Google Maps.
The problem is, it only lets me capture a VERY small section of the map.
Are there other map applications that I could use with the GPS for this trip that are available offline?

Open Street Maps
Look for Open Street Maps based mapping apps in the Play Store. They use offline maps.

lardo5150 said:
My wife and are are headed to New Orleans this week (From STL).
Today, just for a test, I took out my note and tried the GPS. I was under the assumption that maps would load, and the GPS would give us location. I was wrong. It seems you have to do available offline in Google Maps.
The problem is, it only lets me capture a VERY small section of the map.
Are there other map applications that I could use with the GPS for this trip that are available offline?
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Get navfree usa. Its free. Download state maps. Offline route calculation. No crashes on note 10.1
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I would suggest Sygic.

Doesn't Google maps let you save maps for offline use?
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lardo5150 said:
My wife and are are headed to New Orleans this week (From STL).
Today, just for a test, I took out my note and tried the GPS. I was under the assumption that maps would load, and the GPS would give us location. I was wrong. It seems you have to do available offline in Google Maps.
The problem is, it only lets me capture a VERY small section of the map.
Are there other map applications that I could use with the GPS for this trip that are available offline?
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you can capture multiple small sections and they'll be under "my places". since i haven't tested it on a trip that crosses multiple sections i'm not sure how seamless it works across them.

First, I don't know if you noticed but the offline mode capture area can be adjusted. Use the two finger zoom method to zoom out to capture more in one shot. Your maximum capture area is limited to 86 MB. From my experience this allows a fairly large area. About 60 miles wide. Just remember while the maps will work you will need connectivity if you want navigation to work.
To get offline maps with navigation I definitely recommend Sygic and comes with a free trial period which will let you evaluate the app before purchasing the maps. For free options navfree is out there but I have no idea how good it is. Maybe others can comment on navigation experience with navfree.

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Doesn't Google maps let you save maps for offline use?
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It does . You download and keep certain areas you need. But I am not sure if you can use it with only gps on.
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Co pilot is a good maps source.
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I've never used a GPS, so take this for what it's worth, but I downloaded NavFree USA the other day. After that, I downloaded their New York map ('cause that's where I live). It took a while to download that, but afterward worked great. This may seem ignorant, but I didn't realize you could use GPS when not connected to WiFi. But the fact that I could use this as a GPS in my car, with no data connection, was a huge surprise to me.
Of course, you don't things like current traffic issues, but having never used a GPS at all, I was pretty pleased.
Awesome!
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Co pilot is a good maps source.
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justauser said:
Look for Open Street Maps based mapping apps in the Play Store. They use offline maps.
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OSMAnd is a good bet - you could test out with the free version, even though in theory I could build a fully working version from source, the $3-4 or so is worth auto-updating from the Market for an unrestricted version.
It does have offline routing, however I haven't really "stress tested" it for accuracy.

Try copilot. I've used it a lot and found it excellent!
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CO-PILOT rocks
I have been a co-pilot user for a few years its awesome . You cant go wrong . the whole us map download from there server takes about 30-40 minutes and is about 1.3 gb if i remember correctly. You can also d/load reginal maps. I think they update them quicker and more so then anyone else..
if you have a issue they will respond back to you often same day but always within 24 hours.. you get what you pay for with co- pilot very though out app with lots of features..
Good Luck ..

Copilot may be great but it is expensive.

donec said:
Copilot may be great but it is expensive.
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Not compared to Sygic.

donec said:
Copilot may be great but it is expensive.
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Hummm .. well that depends on how much gas and time you waste for getting lost without a accurate offline map.....
Giggles.

Hy Erica, you moved on from the A500 or just surfing the forums?
What I like with Copliot is you can install it on all your android devices, maps too. I have it on my Note 10.1, 2 Acer A501's, 2 SGS3's, and my 2 galaxy tabs as well as an old HTC HD 2( beast of a phone).
And I agree that copilot is awesome but here in Oz there aren't too many map updates...
We're the land that copilot forgot.....

I use navigation systems for a living. I flew for the USAF, and fly worldwide for a major airline now. In addition to that, I've used all types of GPS apps and dedicated GPS in many cities and places around the USA and around the world.
Co-Pilot isn't a bad app, but their maps are truly horrible in many areas. I would recommend Co-Pilot only if you are familiar with the area you'll be using it. I've tried it in many cities where the maps don't even have the major freeways correct. Epic Fail.
Sygic has a decent--not great--interface and excellent maps. Plus, they have maps for locations all around the globe. HOWEVER, their POI search is horribly flawed. If you're within 25 miles of what you're looking for, it works OK. If you're looking or something further away it can be next to impossible to find it. Sygic concentrates on form over function. Fail.
Unfortunately, I have yet to try an Android based GPS Nav app that I would recommend for use in an unfamiliar area. Even Google Maps has serious issues that render it less than optimal.
I would highly recommend getting one of Garmin's GPSs from last year, like the 3750. You can pick that up on Amazon for less than $150. Or Sears has the 3790 with lifetime map updates for less than $180. Easily pocketable and works great. Use Google maps at the hotel to decide what you want to see, use a dedicated GPS to get you there.

i can do both cant i . hehe
ultramag69 said:
Hy Erica, you moved on from the A500 or just surfing the forums?
What I like with Copliot is you can install it on all your android devices, maps too. I have it on my Note 10.1, 2 Acer A501's, 2 SGS3's, and my 2 galaxy tabs as well as an old HTC HD 2( beast of a phone).
And I agree that copilot is awesome but here in Oz there aren't too many map updates...
We're the land that copilot forgot.....
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Hi there.. Well i still have (kinda have) my a500. its a awesome device. I bought two nexus 7 tablets got it because it would fit in my purse. But ended up sending it back for a exchange because of lousy build issues. The replacement was worse. So i sent it back and waiting for a refund . Monday or tuesday im getting a NOTE 10.1 .. Bad experience with the nexus 7 i do not wanna try a 3 rd . i love my wacom intuos so thought this would fit me better.
Think i should buy. Well i have to get something my Spouse (better half so she says) tells me i do NOT get my acer back.. so im tablet less right now... boohoooooo
nice seeing ya over here.
Sorry if this is off topic .. but yes i USE Co-pilot in several devices as well. Also used to use there commercial version in work truck. Great company. as i said above...

Tom Tom is launching a new app this month with off line ability. This is the mapping software that I are in telenav