Hi,
So I'm a completely new user, and a "noob" as you would call it to hacking phones. I'm on T-Mobile, and I've had quite a few phones, and I think I've narrowed it down to this phone.. the HTC FUZE (Raphael... I'm also still considering the HTC Touch HD, however, I've never even held or seen one in real life).
O.K., so here's my question and what I'd like to accomplish here. I'd like to understand how to get the most out of this phone.. IN A BASIC WAY.. What I mean by that, is until I understand custom apps, interfaces. etc WHATEVER.. I would just like to take an unlocked HTC fuze and use it on t-mobile.
Here's the deal. I just tried out an unlocked AT&T Fuze, and everything seemed to work fine, however when I tried to use the INTERNET, I couldn't connect (and I don't want to have to rely on wifi, so I expected to get the EDGE connection, since I know that 3g doesn't work with this phone on t-mobile.. no 1700/ whatever).
Please let me know what should/shouldn't work on an unlocked ATT HTC Fuze on tmobile.. and then, from there I'll work on getting rid of the "EXTRA" ATT app that suck the life out of this guy
THANKS IN ADVANCE...
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After much searching I found lots of 'no you can't's, but I haven't found any posts that are recent, ...in the last 6 months.
I have a Sprint Touch Pro 2 that I successfully got working on Page Plus. I would like to get it on my folks' Verizon family plan. I called an agent and they said if it doesn't have a Verizon logo on it, it's not possible.
I question this, but I've found no one of late posting about this.
I think the phone will work on Verizon, it may just need the ESN number activated on their network.
I remember someone here or at PPCGeeks activated it for me on PagePlus, is there anyone/any way to activate it on Verizon?
I like the phone, I just don't need data, so I don't want a regular Verizon phone.
thanks,
Yes, you can get it activated on VZW... The only problem is this... you can't do it legally or ethically... It would involve doing things against VZW's rules as well as the law... and you would need a "broken" TP2 (or other VZW phone) to do it... But that aside... the reason it worked with PagePlus is because they allow outside phones on their network, with giving you the responsibility to make it work on their network.. VZW is vey explicit that they will NOT allow anyone elses phones on their network (same with Sprint)... They are the worse 2 when it comes to that IMO..... Sorry to the bad news.... But sometimes that is how it goes.... Maybe you can post an ad on here offering to trade someone yours for the VZW version.. or maybe Craigslist?
Thanks,
Trading for a verizon phone won't work, as then I'll have to get data.
My bottom line question:
I need a smart phone, but I NEVER need data, wifi is always available for me. But I guess there is no way to have an Android phone on a Verizon network, without a data plan?
Not legally anyways, that's one of the downsides to using CDMA, the carrier has much greater control over what kind of phone you use. Thankfully they can't control the Rom/OS you run on it .
You need a Verizon rep that knows what they're doing, it can be done.
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I was considering buying a used HTC phone on eBay to start tinkering around with Android. I noticed that there were several phones listed as having a "bad ESN" and they were generally cheaper. Now, I know if a phone has a bad ESN it can't be activated with service from the carrier. But, can I still use it as a fully functioning device via Wi-Fi? (without calling, texting, 3G obviously)
Thanks
tpat212 said:
I was considering buying a used HTC phone on eBay to start tinkering around with Android. I noticed that there were several phones listed as having a "bad ESN" and they were generally cheaper. Now, I know if a phone has a bad ESN it can't be activated with service from the carrier. But, can I still use it as a fully functioning device via Wi-Fi? (without calling, texting, 3G obviously)
Thanks
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it sounds like it could, seeing that you only would use it with wifi and local internet.
I haven't owned an Android phone before, and don't know much about ESN, but I have some hacking experience with iPhone/iOS. if the ESN is used to activate a phone on a carrier/network, who's to say it isn't used to activate the phone itself. Iphones require activation on a network prior to being used as a device, and it can only make emergency calls until activated
rayzeur22 said:
if the ESN is used to activate a phone on a carrier/network, who's to say it isn't used to activate the phone itself. Iphones require activation on a network prior to being used as a device, and it can only make emergency calls until activated
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That's what I was worried about. Basically I just want to get a used HTC Evo or Incredible, flash CyanogenMod 7 on it and use it like a tablet, not a phone. Anybody have experience with phones that have a bad ESN?
I had a Sprint Evo 4G that had a bad ESN and WiFi, BT, GPS, etc. all worked fine. I believe the iPhone series are the only phones that require device activation, and you could always push custom software to the phone. I'm pretty sure you can even run a stripped-down version of Ubuntu on most Android phones if you want to use it as a tablet
No experience with bad ESNs, but just a heads up - if you want to get an Evo, make sure that it's either already rooted or on 2.2, as Evos with GB cannot be rooted yet. There's talk that it's coming soon, so you may want to check when you get ready to purchase.
For what it's worth, I use my Evo in airplane mode with wifi only when I don't have a signal and everything works. But mine is activated, so that could make a difference. I only run AOSP roms, but it should be the same for Sense.
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arcticwolf8 said:
I had a Sprint Evo 4G that had a bad ESN and WiFi, BT, GPS, etc. all worked fine.
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That's what I wanted to hear! Thanks
tpat212 said:
I was considering buying a used HTC phone on eBay to start tinkering around with Android. I noticed that there were several phones listed as having a "bad ESN" and they were generally cheaper. Now, I know if a phone has a bad ESN it can't be activated with service from the carrier. But, can I still use it as a fully functioning device via Wi-Fi? (without calling, texting, 3G obviously)
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YES, Definitely!
I'm hoping this will be figured out since it's a major feature that will never get to be used.
I for one am using the ATT Titan unlocked and on a different carrier (Telus) and yet when switching it on it still asks me to contact ATT or dial 611 to use tethering.
I highly doubt calling ATT from Canada will allow me to use this feature. I also doubt Telus (who doesn't support non Telus phones) will be able to help me either. I also doubt HTC can do anything.
There has to be a workaround for this.
I have got the same problem using an AT&T Samsung Focus S on Rogers. there seem to be no way to remove this unless you get it dev unlocked and play with the settings.
but even that is impossible now since Chevron Unlock has been down for a while now.
its actually a feature i used almost everyday. im gonna give it a few days, if there is still no solution, im going back to my galaxy s2. as much as i hate android, at least when you pay 500$ for a phone, you can what u want with it.
I would think that for HTC devices, that you could use the HTC Connection Setup app to configure your device for your carrier and that should point it in the right direction.
Most other manufacturer's provide a similar tool for their phones and I would assume using those tools would also configure your device to work specifically on other carriers.
Otherwise, it would be something that you'd have to contact HTC/Samsung/LG to see if they can provide a tool or fix to configure your device properly.
I doubt they would help since they sell devices to carriers, they will tell you to contact carriers. I downloaded the Samsung Wireless manager but even though i use Rogers APN, it seems stuck on AT&T APN for the Internet connection sharing.
aside from this issue i really liked the phone, too bad !
I have the same thing on my HTC titan from at&t - amazing phone but the tethering is a bummer --> starting to think I should have got the HTC ultimate from Brazil - it has the same bands as the at&t one but doesn't have any of the carrier branding on it.
I'm going to give it some time - once interop unlock is available im sure someone will find a way around the at&t lockout - or at the very least we should be able to flash the Brazil rom onto our phones
My Surround didn't even get 7740...
Hey all, sorry for the noob question, I have always unlocked Motorola phones in the past, because at my work, ATT doesnt get signal (My provider), but when I unlocked my Motorola phones, then I would get great signal from T-Mobile, and Cell One.
Well now I got this HTC Inspire, rooted it with the Ace Hack Kit (S-off, and all that), got CM7 on it.
BUT at work, I scan for signal, and all it shows is AT&T (Which doesn't get barely any signal at work). So why doesn't it find T-Mobile or another provider which has signal there?
Also I noticed my dad's iPhone does the same thing, even though his is factory unlocked, it won't use any towers besides AT&T. That really sucks IMO, because I always unlocked them, to get my full potential siginal..
Anyways if anyone could answer this, I'd greatly appreciate it. I could stick in another sim to make sure it's unlocked, but I'd have to buy one on ebay, and then I read all over that the Ace kit unlocks it, so I'm like wtf..
EliteGeek91 said:
Hey all, sorry for the noob question, I have always unlocked Motorola phones in the past, because at my work, ATT doesnt get signal (My provider), but when I unlocked my Motorola phones, then I would get great signal from T-Mobile, and Cell One.
Well now I got this HTC Inspire, rooted it with the Ace Hack Kit (S-off, and all that), got CM7 on it.
BUT at work, I scan for signal, and all it shows is AT&T (Which doesn't get barely any signal at work). So why doesn't it find T-Mobile or another provider which has signal there?
Also I noticed my dad's iPhone does the same thing, even though his is factory unlocked, it won't use any towers besides AT&T. That really sucks IMO, because I always unlocked them, to get my full potential siginal..
Anyways if anyone could answer this, I'd greatly appreciate it. I could stick in another sim to make sure it's unlocked, but I'd have to buy one on ebay, and then I read all over that the Ace kit unlocks it, so I'm like wtf..
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Enter the correct apns for t mobile or flash a ROM that has T-Mobile carrier options.
As for the iPhone I couldn't tell ya
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If you used Ace Hack Kit, then your phone is probably unlocked. Whose is your carrier?
For the iPhone, when you say factory unlocked, do you mean AT&T unlocked it. I don't know that any iPhones come unlocked from the factory. When AT&T unlocks a phone (or gives you an unlock code) I think it will only use a non-AT&T signal if AT&T isn't available, i.e. in another country.
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For the iPhone, when you say factory unlocked, do you mean AT&T unlocked it. I don't know that any iPhones come unlocked from the factory. When AT&T unlocks a phone (or gives you an unlock code) I think it will only use a non-AT&T signal if AT&T isn't available, i.e. in another country.
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Thanks all, and yes his iPhone is factory direct unlocked.. Bought straight from Apple.
Anyways, thanks. I will manually enter the T-Mobile APN and see what that does..
So this past summer I purchased a 4G version of the A52 from Amazon, my main reason being it was cheaper than the 5G. Now I'm finding that this choice may be affecting my carrier situation. I am in the United States, and had Cricket Wireless at the time of purchasing the phone. It worked for about 4 hours, then the service quit on me. Apparently Cricket claimed that my phone did not have the proper technology, blah blah blah, something to do with the discontinuation of 3G and or VOLTE. This obviously does not make sense, since this phone is from 2021 and would not be made with old tech. Anyway, I got them to turn my sevice back on, after it being in a "suspended" state. It was still working for a while, and then some time in september I think Cricket sent a text to me (and my fiance as well, also has a phone cricket doesn't like) saying that they would start redirecting our calls to customer service to get us to "upgrade" since the phones would supposedly stop working completely in February or whenever 3G is supposed to go kaput. So, we switched to Mint, who claimed that our phones would both work on their network, and they did, except that the service sucks, even while being in a modest sized city. It also has little to no service at my work, and I'm convinced that T-mobile's service, at least through Mint, absolutely sucks.
So, my question is, what do you all suggest? Does anyone have this model, and what carrier are you with? What kind of luck (or lack thereof) has anyone been having?
Sorry if this has no place here, just doing all I can to get some answers
Well, I don't think I have a clear answer to your question, this is something that I found very very weird. I handed over a Galaxy S9+ to my fiancee who's carrier name I forget, I think it also got acquired by T-Mobile, but I'm not 100% certain. However, the phone didn't work properly. I can't remember what problems exactly it had but they were network related. Turns out that if you're going to change phones you need to go to a store for them to configure it and change it in their system. Otherwise it will either not work or not work properly.
And this was also the case with her sister who bought an unlocked, Mexican phone and she also had to take it to the store for them to configure it. It would have these problems unless she took it to them.
You would assume that all you need is to insert the SIM and it would work out the box but I don't know why this carrier had this method which just makes everything so annoying and complicated when it doesn't need to be. Oh and this isn't a one time thing, every time they changed phones they would need to do this! So you should probably look at going this route, it's my best guess.
EDIT: Oh and also before we knew this, we had also purchased a Galaxy Note 3 (which yeah it's old, but had 4G when I used it with my carrier and all of a sudden it turned to 3G when used on her carrier) so we ended up giving it away. So it was definitely a carrier problem. It was so annoying.