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Strange problem, is it just me??? [Update: Found what causes it!]

Hi,
I have this strange problem on my device...here's the description of the bug -
- When i have a phone call active, the start button goes dead...I cant click on the start button Even if i press the Win key, the start menu doesnt roll out.
- however, the close button and the volume icons are active
- when i try to tap and hold on the clock (to change between analog and digital), i get the circle of dots, but at the end i dont get the menu options for switching between the two modes.
- when i end the call, the start button is still disabled. If i have to re-enable it, I need to press the POWER button to turn off my device and turn it back ON, then it gets active again. However, this works only after i end the active call.
This started to happen ever since i installed one of the roms/radio roms (which i dont remember) and now, it happens on any ROM that i flash it with
I have no clue as to whats broken and this seriously gets on my nerves
Any suggestions or ideas?
thanks!
San

Damn, i take it that noone has had this problem.....anyone any suggestions which may help fix it?!
Cheers,
San

dreamtheater39 said:
Hi,
I have this strange problem on my device...here's the description of the bug -
- When i have a phone call active, the start button goes dead...I cant click on the start button Even if i press the Win key, the start menu doesnt roll out.
- however, the close button and the volume icons are active
- when i try to tap and hold on the clock (to change between analog and digital), i get the circle of dots, but at the end i dont get the menu options for switching between the two modes.
- when i end the call, the start button is still disabled. If i have to re-enable it, I need to press the POWER button to turn off my device and turn it back ON, then it gets active again. However, this works only after i end the active call.
This started to happen ever since i installed one of the roms/radio roms (which i dont remember) and now, it happens on any ROM that i flash it with
I have no clue as to whats broken and this seriously gets on my nerves
Any suggestions or ideas?
thanks!
San
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Did you try a DOC format?
It may help...
Regards

Hey Ranju!!!
Thanks for your response! How do i do a DOC level format???
Thanks so much for responding!
San
On a side note, your v6 rom is just amazing! I love it for its great stability on my device, and not to mention the perfect balance in terms of applications it comes with etc.!

dreamtheater39 said:
Hey Ranju!!!
Thanks for your response! How do i do a DOC level format???
Thanks so much for responding!
San
On a side note, your v6 rom is just amazing! I love it for its great stability on my device, and not to mention the perfect balance in terms of applications it comes with etc.!
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Hi Dreamtheater,
Enter BootLoader, connect to pc with USB, load, MTTY and type "Task 28 55aa" this will restore DOC to original state.
You will loose all info on your device so back-up first.
More details in the Wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Technical
Cheers,
Beasty

dreamtheater39 said:
Damn, i take it that noone has had this problem.....anyone any suggestions which may help fix it?!
Cheers,
San
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Before you try the DOC format, try re-flashing the radio only rom. If you are using v 1.18 or 1.17, try 1.15 which is more stable.

beast0898 said:
Hi Dreamtheater,
Enter BootLoader, connect to pc with USB, load, MTTY and type "Task 28 55aa" this will restore DOC to original state.
You will loose all info on your device so back-up first.
More details in the Wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Technical
Cheers,
Beasty
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thanks dude!
Successfully formatted the doc, now reinstalling the rom....lets hope this solves the problem...
really appreciate your help m8!
Best,
San

sofene said:
Before you try the DOC format, try re-flashing the radio only rom. If you are using v 1.18 or 1.17, try 1.15 which is more stable.
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I was running on R1.15...now i'm trying 1.17!
You suspect the problem to be with the radio? I guessed as much too...but it seemed like it happened two different radios and all the OS roms. Maybe something was screwed at DOC level, hopefully the doc format should work....
thanks!
San

Still no luck
I formatted the DOC and reinstalled everything, and it still fails...
All i need to do is, dial a number, shut the lid, re-open it and then try to click on the start button, doesnt respond
Everything below is functional.....
Sad :-(((
Why me??!

still no luck
@beasty, ranju
Any other suggestions? This is such a wierd problem. Is there something like a format of radio section on the device?
Thanks,
San

dreamtheater39 said:
still no luck
@beasty, ranju
Any other suggestions? This is such a wierd problem. Is there something like a format of radio section on the device?
Thanks,
San
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This is a very typical problem, I've no solid answer.
But lets try...
1. Run the CID unlock tool
2. Unplug the battery and plugin back after a few minutes
3. Start the device in BL
4. Flash the Radio 1.09, an original OS rom (i.e. from O2) and an empty extrom
5. Hard reset, screen align etc. (do not install anything)
6. Check the device status ....
Are you having the same problem?

ranju said:
This is a very typical problem, I've no solid answer.
But lets try...
1. Run the CID unlock tool
2. Unplug the battery and plugin back after a few minutes
3. Start the device in BL
4. Flash the Radio 1.09, an original OS rom (i.e. from O2) and an empty extrom
5. Hard reset, screen align etc. (do not install anything)
6. Check the device status ....
Are you having the same problem?
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thanks ranju,
let me give this a spin now....i'll post back after i try it. one thing though, when i tried a wm5 based rom, this issue didnt turn up.
one thing though....i actually cooked my own rom using a wm5 rom base and replaced the phone and outlook apps from wm6 and tried to run it. the phone module never powered on, and nothing worked....and went back to a wm6 rom after which. i'm not too sure if this has triggered these problems or a bad wm6 rom which i've flashed (i remember mo3ulla's rom which never worked for me and fubared my device completely....this could also be the cause....)
either ways, still hunting for a possible fix, and thanks so much for helping out! will post back bro....
San

dreamtheater39 said:
still no luck
@beasty, ranju
Any other suggestions? This is such a wierd problem. Is there something like a format of radio section on the device?
Thanks,
San
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Hi San,
If you have a history file in the root of your device can you post it for us please?
If not do you have access to Visual Studio and Platform Builder so that you can get a KITL output of this in action, then post the KITL for us?
Also, are you running any taskamanagers or additional apps?
Does the issue occur straight after a clean flash of a Vanilla Rom?
Cheers,
Beasty

@beasty
Here's history.txt attached....
I have visual studio, but i dont have platform builder....so i'm afraid thats not possible. If you could point me as to where i can get it, I could give it a shot.
Right now i'm going to radio 1.09, and checking if its a radio incompatibility issue...doubt it though.....
San

Oh dudes! I guess i figured out what's causing the problem, though i have no idea how to fix this!!!!!!
All this has started when my exchange service provider has migrated to exchange 2007 which makes it mandatory for me to have a password for my device. I have a 24 hr time out for the password, pretty much making the need for a password useless....
When i make a call and leave the lid open and continue to talk - no problems! the start button works as it should....
but the moment i close the lid and pull it open again, it seems like the display blanks and redraws (only happens if you have a password for your device), and thats when the start button gets disabled! Now, the only way out is to end the call, power off and then power on again......
This is confirmed, but how do i fix the problem? I should have a password, cant disable it.....and i always close the lid when i make a call! MS bug????
Thanks again ranju, beasty.....really appreciate it!
San

knock knock!

dreamtheater39 said:
knock knock!
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Who's there?
There are some known issues with password screen causing issues on some roms mate.
All I can suggest is dig through the forums to see if you can find a fix posted............I think J had a similar issue with one of his Roms and it was discussed in detail............
or flash to a different Rom and see if it is reproduceable.
later San
Beasty

Issue i got with ALL roms...

no matter what rom i try to use, ( i got tilt by the way) when i send sms or just type anything with the keyboard it doesn't always register all my keys. i press them firm and slow and yet it doesn't Always take the key i pressed. have to wait a min or two. any way to fix this?
right now im using viper rom.
any one else get this problem?

kingofall00 said:
no matter what rom i try to use, ( i got tilt by the way) when i send sms or just type anything with the keyboard it doesn't always register all my keys. i press them firm and slow and yet it doesn't Always take the key i pressed. have to wait a min or two. any way to fix this?
right now im using viper rom.
any one else get this problem?
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Sounds like bad keyboard?

this is the weird thing, keys work fine when i first install a fast rom. it seems like phone slows down and lags a bit. im 100% keys work fine as they do when i go to a 6.0 rom. it is with 6.1 that gives me the problems.
srry i should have said with 6.1 roms.

Ive noticed the same thing with 6.1 roms.... And really the threaded SMS, and maybe a slightly quiker boot time is all i notice better on the 6.1 roms

ok well maybe u can help me with my other issue.
how do you find out what hardSPL you have on your phone?
i dont remember what one i put on there. and i tried putting new 3.56 just want to make sure it is on there and was put on right.

try disabling xt9....that made a huge difference for me...

I disabled XT9, and while it made texting easier... I always have to proof read before i send.
O ther wis it look s like thi s.....

thank you . i tried that, maybe i need to make sure most if not all programs are closed. thanx.

kingofall00 said:
thank you . i tried that, maybe i need to make sure most if not all programs are closed. thanx.
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actually what will help the most is to set suggested words to 0, using kaisertweaks or advanced config, but of course that answer should have been easy to find as i've answered it personally at least 20+ times. Also disabling autocorrection seems to help too, but i think that the suggested words is the most significant improvement.

I have the same problem with my tilt. Dutty 6.1 hybrid. My problem seems to be limited to a slow space key though. so texts look like:
thisi s howm any of myt exts look.
I am going to try some of the suggestions and see what works.

psuarmy said:
I have the same problem with my tilt. Dutty 6.1 hybrid. My problem seems to be limited to a slow space key though. so texts look like:
thisi s howm any of myt exts look.
I am going to try some of the suggestions and see what works.
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try installing this cab:
http://www.4shared.com/file/59325516/b1bb4ea1/DuttyThroys_Disable_XT9.html
although i'm not sure it will work on his 29th release

mbarvian said:
try installing this cab:
http://www.4shared.com/file/59325516/b1bb4ea1/DuttyThroys_Disable_XT9.html
although i'm not sure it will work on his 29th release
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There is no "on the fly" word suggest or spell check with this ROM.

Problem with keyboard and screen
I too have had problems with the hardware keyboard. I have tried 3 different roms, all with the same problems. Disabling T9 does help, but doesnt fix it entirely. I have also had a problem with screen taps not being recognized.
In both instances, it appears the phone is busy running another process and it takes a few seconds for it to focus on the program I have running. I have checked taskmanager when this happens and the only running program is the one im using.. Perhaps a program that runs on startup in the background?

Keyboard light??

Anyone know how to keep the keyboard light on longer than 5-10 sec when opened like the mogul??

You can change backlight time with Advanced Configuration Tool
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151

Thanks a lot for the heads up on the configuration tool. But unfortunately it didn't work. I set up to stay on for 10 min, but it still kicks off after like 10sec God I hope it's just my keyboard that has this problem.

xtreme929 said:
Thanks a lot for the heads up on the configuration tool. But unfortunately it didn't work. I set up to stay on for 10 min, but it still kicks off after like 10sec God I hope it's just my keyboard that has this problem.
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Nope I read a few people are having same issue, as so am I.

xtreme929 said:
God I hope it's just my keyboard that has this problem.
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Surely it would be better to hope that it's the software that's the problem, that way someone can come up with a fix for it?

It is not an issue, it´s normal...

Is this the ultimate BUG?

I just found the ultimate bug and I believe this bug is responsible for G-Alarm and pTravelalarm not working. These alarm programs set the system volume to a predefined value, no matter where it was before (off, for example).
Why the heck does the PHONE RINGER volume influence the SYSTEM volume?
Check out the video:
here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBZAkJwDHT0
Can this be fixed in Windows? Reg-Hack?

Anyone here with a AT&T Fuze that can test this please? Is my hardware defective? I'm still within the 30 days to return that sucker if it is.
Thanxxx

Wow, strange!!
I already saw your post in the G-Alarm thread yesterday.
Just tested it with my Touch Pro running ROMeOS 1.51, and I do not have this bug.

johanromijn said:
Wow, strange!!
I already saw your post in the G-Alarm thread yesterday.
Just tested it with my Touch Pro running ROMeOS 1.51, and I do not have this bug.
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I suspect it is related to the latest AT&T stock rom. I hope someone with a brand new AT&T version can test this. If it's just a rom problem, then I can probably flash mine but I don't want to try that right now and lose warranty if I'm not sure...
here's my latest video that shows directly how crucial this bug is to any alarm program:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKIqwyk9g9I
Cheers
Stefan

Again, it's myself who figured it out. After hours of trying and 3 hard resets (thanks to SpriteBackup I didn't have to install everything over again!)
Here is the result and the culprit is identified!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_6-i976_xE
Anyone else here with the AT&T Fuze that has the same problem? Is there a fixed version of ozim available?

electron73 said:
Again, it's myself who figured it out. After hours of trying and 3 hard resets (thanks to SpriteBackup I didn't have to install everything over again!)
Here is the result and the culprit is identified!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_6-i976_xE
Anyone else here with the AT&T Fuze that has the same problem? Is there a fixed version of ozim available?
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Interesting, but can you please post your solution in text form as well so that every single person who reads this thread from now until the end of time does not have to go watch a Youtube video ?

DrunkenOstrich said:
Interesting, but can you please post your solution in text form as well so that every single person who reads this thread from now until the end of time does not have to go watch a Youtube video ?
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Yeah sure, no problem. I just thought a picture says more than 1000 words and a video says even more. But here in plain English:
Starting up the OZ IM Messenger Client on the AT&T Fuze (or worse, having it autostart with the system) completely screws up the system volume settings. Suddenly the RINGER volume slider also influences the SYSTEM volume. Say you turn your ringer volume all the way down but you still want to listen to mp3's in Windows Media... nada. If you set your phone to silent or vibrate and have a nice alarm program like G-Alarm installed, the alarm will go off but no sound out of the speaker!
After closing down OZ IM you still have to soft-reboot to get your system sounds back.

DrunkenOstrich said:
Interesting, but can you please post your solution in text form as well so that every single person who reads this thread from now until the end of time does not have to go watch a Youtube video ?
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Seconded. Technical stuff lends itself to words better.

dr g said:
Seconded. Technical stuff lends itself to words better.
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Is there a newer version of the OZ IM available that doesn't f*** up the system volume? That company's website doesn't even allow you to contact anyone, let alone check for updates or get support

Here's the newest development in this case.
Tried a different OZ IM (verizon version) last night and the sound bug was GONE. BUT I got errors connecting. Found out that there is a config file with verizon gateway in it, replaced it with the AT&T one. Still an error. Different one though (404). Re-installed the original AT&T version. Sound bug back immediately
Just overwrote the .exe file with the one from Verizon: Sound bug gone but again connection error 404...
WTF?
Anyone have a different AT&T version besides the obviously screwed up 2.0.84 M ?

Automatically activate speaker when placing phone face down

On my old Rhodium TP2 there was a feature to automatically activate speaker when placing phone face down. Is that possible with HD2?

Err... yeah. You just place it face down

johncmolyneux said:
Err... yeah. You just place it face down
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LOLLLL
didn't know that

It never worked for me for some reason. It could be disabled but I can't find the setting to turn it on. Anyway, I am planing to do a hard reset this weekend and see if that feature is back.

ma6inista said:
It never worked for me for some reason. It could be disabled but I can't find the setting to turn it on. Anyway, I am planing to do a hard reset this weekend and see if that feature is back.
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I can only assume it will be there after a hard reset, as it's something I've used countless times and have never had to enable it. (I seem to remember reading it in the manual too!)

Confirmed working with Dutty's ML series ROMs.

It does not work for me. WWE ROM. I just did a hard reset.

Always worked for me on Stock 1.66 ROM.

Working on Axlor.
Weird this, ive always wanted it!
and just never tried it

joshzzz2001 said:
It does not work for me. WWE ROM. I just did a hard reset.
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that's strange. the feature is documented in the HD2 manual, so it at least works on all stock ROMs. If not, approach HTC support.

i'd say if it doesn't work, its something related to a flashed rom and a setting more than anything else

Turing On Speaker While Facing Up More Useful
I would rather somehow have the proximity sensor turn the spearkers on while the phone is facing up because it would be nice to multi-task and take notes or update my contacts while I am talking to that person/business. For example, a business gives me an RMA so I would have to edit my notes for that contact and enter the RMA number. I can't do this while the phone is faced down.

yea the speaker function works the same on mine as on the TP2

Is there a setting or reg key that I can change to enable this? (doesn't work on Artemis 6.0)

ma6inista said:
On my old Rhodium TP2 there was a feature to automatically activate speaker when placing phone face down. Is that possible with HD2?
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Maybe it's too late and you already found the solution but here it goes for other people:
To turn the HD2's speaker on do one of these:
1 - Long press phone button (furtherest left)
2 - Turn it upside down
3 - On the call screen slide down & press the speaker's button