Hey guys, I just have a quick question. Does the G1 and Touch Pro share the exact same hardware when it comes to radios? If so, I would assume that the chipset in the Touch Pro would be capable with the Tmobile 3G bands but it just needs the proper drivers for it to work. I had the G1 but sold it because Tmobile wouldn't allow me to use my $6 data plan on the G1, or any other plan than the G1 data plan. I now have an HTC Fuze and am looking for any way to get 3G Tmobile data access. It doesn't seem like many phones out there has the Tmobile 3G bands. And also, it seems like the Rhodium is coming to Tmobile with the 3G bands and was wondering if anyone had access to the Rhodium radio firmware could flash the Touch Pro and see if it enabled the 3G bands for Tmobile.
AFAIK, flashing an at&t FUZE ROM (and radio) to a Touch PRO doesn't bring up at&t 3G speed at all.
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Has anyone tried this?? If I were to buy the phone w/o att will they unlock it no problem?
thx
they don't want to unlock it even if you pay full price, but they will give up if you insist long enough to one of their customer service representatives
what I did was to pay full price for the phone and get a new number and sim card with a prepaid plan, after spending my $25 from prepaid minutes I called and explained I no longer wanted their service and had paid full price, eventually they agreed to unlock it by giving me a code.. Insert a simcard from another operator and the screen asking for the code will show up.
3g on t-mobile is not working, but everything else does. At least for me. I'm using the Elite RC1 ROM
I think 3g may work if I replace the radio with one that supports 1700/2100 umts, but I don't know if that even exists
i think when the diamond first came out, it didnt support us 3g and they found a radio that allowed us 3g.
so i dont see why you shouldnt be able to get a radio that works with tmobile 3g
kidnamedAlbert said:
i think when the diamond first came out, it didnt support us 3g and they found a radio that allowed us 3g.
so i dont see why you shouldnt be able to get a radio that works with tmobile 3g
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Nobody's been able to add a 3G band to a HTC device just by flashing the radio ROM AFAIK. When the Diamond came out, people were surprised that it didn't support the 850 MHz band like its predecessor, the Cruise, did. There was a later radio that allowed the Diamond to use the 850 MHz band, but only for GSM/EDGE. To do that, the radio in the device had to physically support the 850 MHz band. No subsequent radios, even the one from the US Diamond (which was identical to an already-released radio ROM) were able to make a Euro Diamond use US 3G. The only HTC-made device I know of that uses T-Mobile's AWS 3G band is the T-Mobile G1.
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Nobody's been able to add a 3G band to a HTC device just by flashing the radio ROM AFAIK. When the Diamond came out, people were surprised that it didn't support the 850 MHz band like its predecessor, the Cruise, did. There was a later radio that allowed the Diamond to use the 850 MHz band, but only for GSM/EDGE. To do that, the radio in the device had to physically support the 850 MHz band. No subsequent radios, even the one from the US Diamond (which was identical to an already-released radio ROM) were able to make a Euro Diamond use US 3G. The only HTC-made device I know of that uses T-Mobile's AWS 3G band is the T-Mobile G1.
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i knew i was probably wrong.
thanks for clarifying on this whole thread.
Fuze Working on ATT
So the radio that's in the FUZE won't work on Tmobile - i don't see the bands that the Gphone has. This really makes me wonder if I really want to switch over to ATT. technically I hate ATT.
It's like signing on to have big brother watch over you.
I have the same problem as you do. And I would switch to AT&T if it wasn't for the early termination fee in my t-mobile contract
i think thats what i am gonna do, unlock the fuze and use on t-mobile's EDGE.
i went to an AT&T store the other day and the guy explained the planes to me!!
to get something comparable to what i have with T-mobile i have to pay $130 a month for AT&T
i have the 3000 minutes regional plan $49 with total unlimited internet + access to t-mobile hotspot for $20
i pay 70 dollars
i'd have to get unlimited from at&t for $100 + $30 for internet
sprint's deal is actually isnt bad at all $99 for unlimited everything ( too bad they use CDMA, i go to the middle east once a year )
PS: work and i home i have access to a very high speed Wi-Fi
the radio will work, but you will only get EDGE speeds at best, not 3G. Tmobile's 3G band is AWS 1700 and the Fuze does not support that.
How bad is that? depends on what you do. I use my old Blackjack on Tmobile, and get about 125 kbps speeds. Enough for basic email, google maps and web browsing (when I am not carrying my Fuze)
TC
Hello,
Using my UK/EU Version of the Touch Pro branded as HTC (RAPH100 on the back) I get Edge everywhere and 3G someplaces. However, I gifted a friend an AT&T branded "Fuze" (not sure of the exact model) and when the phones are side by side most of the time, the Fuze gets 3G everywhere and I am stuck on Edge.
They are both on AT&T, and as far as I know have the same data plans. I thought they were both quad frequency chips, and I didnt think there were any GSM differences in the hardware between the versions.
What gives? Can I take a broken Fuze, desolder the GSM chip, and resolder it into my T7272? Is there a way to check for 3G reception vs. 3G connection allowance? Meaning is my phone getting the 3G signal, but AT&T refusing my phone's ID?
you may have posted this in the wrong place.
Did you look at the radio versions? Sounds like each device had a different radio flashed on it. Check out the raphael radio thread here
Moved to Touch Pro, Fuze General for better exposure.
Hi guys, I bought a Sprint Touch Pro 2 that was being used on the CDMA network, but after moving to Ireland, I realized the phone was automatically unlocked hence any sim works on it.
I have used the Rhodium W Hard-SPL in the CDMA section for it, but am left wondering. Does my TP2 still fall under CDMA or is it now under GSM?
Coz i have tried loading some ROMS under the Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development and it failed and returned an ERROR.
So question is, is it still CDMA and can I upgrade to Android ROM?
Thanks.
1) Yes, the default Sprint radio is unlocked for the Euro GSM bands (900/1800 GSM and 2100 WCDMA) by default. No need to pay for a SIM unlock unless you want to swap radios ROMs.
2) NO, you CANNOT use GSM ROMs. The device can only use the custom "CDMA" ROMs. The CDMA TP2 hardware is a hybrid model, whereas the "GSM" versions are GSM only. The ROMs are incompatible.
DO NOT FLASH A GSM ROM TO YOUR SPRINT TP2 FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER.
As far as Android, yes, you can safely load Android via Haret.
Thanks Gamescan for that prompt and to the point reply. Much appreciated.
Just another question if you might know, so which would you say is has better hardware? If the CDMA is Hybrid and the GSM is GSM only, am I to take it that the CDMA is better as it's (for lack of a better word) more advanced, or is the GSM better and why?
Thanks, thinking of trying Android, but, first read alot and see if the advantages outweigh running WM on the TP2.
Same hardware, different radios.
If you're in Europe, it doesn't really matter as every TP2 model supports GSM 900/1800 and WCDMA 2100, which are the Euro GSM and 3G frequencies.
Model choice only matters if you plan on using the phone in the Americas, where the GSM and WCDMA bands differ.
ROM wise it matters because even if you're not using the CDMA radio, the hardware is different and the ROMs are designed to reflect that. For day-to-day use in Ireland though, you'll never know the difference between models.
I've got the Touch Pro (T7272-unlocked not t-Mobile branded) and am a T-Mobile customer.
Does anyone know if this device works on the T-Mobile 4G network?
If so, what setting, if any, need to be changed?
The package says the phone supports HSPA network, but T-Mobile's is HSPA+.
The phone will work, but I believe only on EDGE. The radio bands are wrong to get 3G or I guess 4G. There's nothing you can do about it.
Thanks for your reply.
I've used it for years with EDGE, which is brutally sloooooow.
I was wondering what spec determines if a phone will work on T-Mobile 4G network?
that is correct. att's 3/4g opperates arround 1800hmz while tmobiles 3/4g opperates around 1700mhz to no matter what you do (outside of switching carriers) there is no way you can opperate outside of edge
-rastlin
Rastin,
Thanks for your reply.
Is there any possibility that a software solution could change the Band Frequency?
Unfortunately it`s imposible.
I have TP2 CDMA version (Initially a US cellular phone i think)
I have Unlocked it (sim and CID) then installed the world phone rom as well.
Put a AT&T sim in and it works
But no 3g!! - Only edge 2g
The settings are already on the phone (with cilgular login)
Anyway of getting the 3g to work?
You phone might not have compatible AT&T 3G bandwidth. Check your specs to see if you do have it.
I have recently received a Telus HTC Touch Pro 2 unlocked, running on the Rogers Wireless Network. Everything works accordingly after setting up the network settings, although it does not run in 3G mode. It works fine in EDGE mode, but the speed difference is fairly significant. I have been doing some indepth reading, although I have not been able to come across any answers on how to get the Rogers 3G mode to operate on the Telus version of the TP2. If anyone has any information as to whether or not it is capable of running 3G, and if so how to you enable the 3G capability?
The CDMA TP2 is not compatible with most gsm 3G services. There is no fix it has to do with the hardware radios.
Nope!
No 3g data in GSM mode.
drewcam...horndoc..what's up ! @ the op, as previously stated, no gsm 3g in north america but it's suppose to work in most countries.