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Hi,
I am currently working in a project in Spain to implement an application for SFA (Sales Force Automation) to capture orders at Point of Sale . We are evaluating using XDA II (PPC 2003 phone edition) as a device where to run the application.
As this application (.NET) will sync data over GPRS, we need to have GPRS activated. But at the same time, we would like to save power deactivating GPRS from the application, when the user don't need to sync data with the server.
Here is the question :
- Is it possible to activate / deactivate GPRS from an application without deactivating the whole radio interface ? (i.e. we want the user be able to to make phone calls at any time (even when GPRS is off)).
- If so, what is the API that enables to do it ? (we don't want the user changing this from device settings).
Thanks in advance,
Rgs,
Jose Martrat
Valoris
T:+34 670331056
In order to deactivate your gprs connection, you hold the red button for 3 seconds (hang up button).
You have also some tools that have a connect/disconnect button sucg as GPRS monitor.
I appreciate your quick repply, but I am not looking for a mechanism to close a GPRS session.
I need a way to disable the process that is permanently looking for the GPRS network,even when you don't have a GPRS session inititated (i.e. disable the radio interface for GPRS only), in order to reduce power consumption.
I need this from an API, not from a user intervention, so we can program this functionality on our application.
Hopes this clarifies my question.
Rgs,
probably this guy who has come out with this Tweak can help.
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_en.htm
This tweak allow to to start Radio by not having GPRS attached. Is that what you're looking for?
I dont have a data plan for my SP5m so my provider defaults any data access at a high "per KB" rate. Is there a way to prevent all GRPS/EDGE usage ? Ideally, I'd like to just be able to turn GPRS/EDGE "off".
the only thought I've had thus far is to use some "fake" settings so any attempt to use GPRS/EDGE would simply fail to connect.
Is there a solution or is my "fake" idea the way to go ? If I use the "fake" solution, what setting(s) do I need to change ?
I think all you have to do is delete the connection. Click the start menu then settings then connections and connections again. Then click on manage existing connections. Then take your stylus and hold it down on the connection name, for example for me it is tmobile, until a pop up box comes saying delete and connect. Tap on delete and your gprs settings are gone and you cannot connect.
If you want to keep your settings, maybe you can just create a new connection with fake settings and have that chosen as your connection when you dont want to use your providers GPRS.
The settings to change would be the number to dial, for me it is internet2.voicestream.com.
Goto Settings/Connections
Choose Connections, got to Advanced tab.
In "Programsthat automatically connect to internet should connect using:"
choose "My ISP". Or create new one with empty parameters..
Have fun....
deleted connection
Thanks for the easy solution (I like those types). I went ahead and deleted the GPRS connection. Things are behaving just the way I wanted !
jeeb75 said:
If you want to keep your settings, maybe you can just create a new connection with fake settings and have that chosen as your connection when you dont want to use your providers GPRS.
The settings to change would be the number to dial, for me it is internet2.voicestream.com.
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stylus???
hmmm...I think SP5m does not have touch screen.
BTW: window mobile and window mobile smartphone are totally different OS.
humptybump said:
I dont have a data plan for my SP5m so my provider defaults any data access at a high "per KB" rate. Is there a way to prevent all GRPS/EDGE usage ? Ideally, I'd like to just be able to turn GPRS/EDGE "off".
the only thought I've had thus far is to use some "fake" settings so any attempt to use GPRS/EDGE would simply fail to connect.
Is there a solution or is my "fake" idea the way to go ? If I use the "fake" solution, what setting(s) do I need to change ?
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This is not an easy solution to your request, but I just upgraded my QTEK 8300 to the latest Imate SP5M ROM and noticed that under the COMM Manager one can "Stop Data Services" by moving the joy stick to the icon or hitting number "5". It immediately stops the Data Flow (at least the G) disappears in the header. Not sure it is really stopping Data because when I go to WiFi and open IE, the G reappears. Might be due to the way I have my Cingular connections set up. I'll experiement some more and re-post later. I like the new ROM, snappier, the radio is much better in that I get a much better signal where I'm at.
Here's how you disable GPRS/EDGE Auto connect!!
Start > Settings > Connections > Manage my connections > Then just point to the list item and hold down until the menu pop up and select delete. Do it to all the items there such as T-Mobile / AT&T or Winmodem..etc... after you deleted everything and you go back to the connections page you will see "Add a new modem connection" under My ISP. Do not delete anything under "My Work Network"... Hope this help.
You can use Modaco NoData to disable GPRS/EDGE =D
Have a nice day
i have a problem with my s710...when i close pocketIE (from task manager) and stop gprs connection form comm manager, after few minuts the connection is up again! to stop this gprs connectin i must reboot my smartphone because in the comm manager wont work!
there is no other SW on my s710, so it's impossible that some program made che connection!
any idea?
Yep i get that too and no idea why
duncan1976 said:
i have a problem with my s710...when i close pocketIE (from task manager) and stop gprs connection form comm manager, after few minuts the connection is up again! to stop this gprs connectin i must reboot my smartphone because in the comm manager wont work!
there is no other SW on my s710, so it's impossible that some program made che connection!
any idea?
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I also see a G (or E) in the middle and at the right hand side. And yes, according the manual the icon in the middle means G (or E) is available and the icon at the right there is an ongoing connection. I'm not sure whether the connection is actually used. I think there is no traffic. But that still leaves the question what initiates a connection on your guys S710.
On my S710 after re-enabling the phone function I only see a G (or E) in the middle, but not at the right. Also after some minutes.
I think thats a bug, when I use the gprs I get the small G instead of the antenna in the upper right corner. When I disable gprs it's still there. Has to reboot to get rid of it.
check email settings
you may want to check email settings. if you have selected to check your email account every X minutes the connection will activate automatically. uncheck the box or choose "never" and see if it happens again.
nope - both email accounts set to never
iberico said:
you may want to check email settings. if you have selected to check your email account every X minutes the connection will activate automatically. uncheck the box or choose "never" and see if it happens again.
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Hello,
I noticed the same issue.
I had to perform a factory reset (Clear) to solve it.
I traced this issue to Microsoft Live Messenger, which tries to connect.
Hans
I wonder if there is anyway I can get it to prompt me before using the gprs?
Sometimes, while browsing, my wifi will cut out and start using my gprs. Which is why I would like my phone to ask me whether or not it can use gprs.
My old P900 always asked.
I'm currently looking if I can create a utility to do just that.
bump as I have the same issue...
most of the times I never realise that WIFi is gone and gprs has been activated.
There must be a way to ask us if we want gprs connection before actually activating it.....
Yep, same problem here. Sometimes I even disable "Phone" in Comm Manager and turn on "WLAN" just to be sure I'm surfing via my WiFi router, and not GPRS/EDGE.
You can always disconnect GPRS via the Comm Manager. Most programs have a setting weather to chose connection automaticaly or you can set it to wifi or gprs(like Internet Explorer)
CY42 said:
You can always disconnect GPRS via the Comm Manager. Most programs have a setting weather to chose connection automaticaly or you can set it to wifi or gprs(like Internet Explorer)
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That's the problem. The GPRS connection is active, but the GRPS in Comm Manager is disabled so you can't turn it off. I've seen some registry key changes that enable you to press the "red end call" key to stop the connection, but it soons resurrects itself and re-appears, and is still not enabled in Comm Manager to disable it.
I've not seen an option in Internet Explorer on the Smartphones to choose Wifi or GPRS, you just get "Internet", "Wap", "Secure WAP", "MMS", "Work". There is no option for Wifi only.
I been looking for a little program for a while now that prompts you when your Wifi connection has lost, and whether you want to continue with GPRS or not. So far, I've not found anything.
I've noticed programs such as Fring monitor such a connection and give you the option, but I would like to see something that is a seperate process and monitors the connection itself, and not just for one program.
duncan1976 said:
i have a problem with my s710...when i close pocketIE (from task manager) and stop gprs connection form comm manager, after few minuts the connection is up again! to stop this gprs connectin i must reboot my smartphone because in the comm manager wont work!
there is no other SW on my s710, so it's impossible that some program made che connection!
any idea?
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You can apply this regedit in the way to disconnect gprs/edge connection simply pressing red button:
to resolve this problem:
Go to: HKLM-->Comm-->ConnMgr-->Planner-->Settings-->SuspendResume
and delete ~GPRS! value.
This value was couseing phone to keep active gprs connection by any meanings.
When you delete it, red button will close the connection again
Found this one somewhere one month ago.
Tested: it works.
Same problem here.
I have seen this issue discussed on several different forums. Is it a WM6 bug?
i just leave my gprs connection setting not set up. When ever i try and connect without WIFI i cannot use GPRS. This means i cant connect to the internet unless i have availble WIFI but at least i wont get billed for un wanted GPRS
hoice said:
i just leave my gprs connection setting not set up. When ever i try and connect without WIFI i cannot use GPRS. This means i cant connect to the internet unless i have availble WIFI but at least i wont get billed for un wanted GPRS
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It´s sad Windows Mobile/HTC forces you to do these things just to prevent being charged withour your consent.
had to do the same thing, just deleted the whole gprs account ... I actually got billed for 214 "gprs connection" the last month, wich was very expensieve. This is actually a huge bug, hope someone will fix it soon.
Its a money eating bug!
Hi, I have bought a Samsung I600 Wm5 Smartphone but I have a problem with wifi settings.
My router has no DHCP and want to set manually the ip, the gateway and the dns.
Wm5 Smartphone don't have this settings, it only use dhcp to connect and so i cannot use my private wifi lan.
I have tried many software as Wlanipmanager (good but not save in the registry, it give me error), Wififofum, Wifiprofifiles, Hitchhiker but anyone has correct this bug.
Can you help me?
I want a program that fix this fuction.
In Wm6 Smartphone this bug is fixed? There is a menu to config the ip manually?
Many thanks
you have to enter settings for static ip into registry.
see:
http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/archive/index.php/t-108293.html
is htere the same info but in English
is it possible to use this way of comunication to share a pc folder visible on the smartphone?????????
Just look at this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\SWLD25SP1\Parms\Tcpip]
"EnableDhcp"=REG_DWORD:0
"IPAddress"=REG_MULTI_SZ:<IP-Adresse für WLAN>
"SubnetMask"=REG_MULTI_SZ:<Subnetmaske>
"DefaultGateway"=REG_MULTI_SZ:<IP-Adresse des Default-Gateways>
"DNS"=REG_MULTI_SZ:<IP-Addresse des DNS-Servers>
"Domain"=REG_SZ:<Standard-Domainname für DNS-Auflösung (ist optional)>
and this is an example:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\SWLD25SP1\Parms\Tcpip]
"EnableDhcp"=0
"IPAddress"="10.5.1.222"
"SubnetMask"="255.255.255.0"
"DefaultGateway"="10.5.1.1"
"DNS"="10.44.33.7"
"Domain"="wasauchimmer.irgendwo.de"
You can use http://ceregeditor.mdsoft.pl/ to edit registry directly from PC.
To be able to change registry you will have to use SDA_ApplicationUnlock (http://www.google.com/search?q=SDA_ApplicationUnlock.exe)
>>is it possible to use this way of comunication to share a pc folder visible on the smartphone
Well, it is not so simple, I suppose...Maybe someone else will give more details for this.
ok but:
when i've entered in this registry entry there's no field for IPAdress.
I guess it will apear when the 'enable dhcp field' is set to "0"?
I have a field named PSmode is that the power save mode and will be there very big difference in the signal strenght if i set it to "0"?
kasovnik said:
ok but:
when i've entered in this registry entry there's no field for IPAdress.
I guess it will apear when the 'enable dhcp field' is set to "0"?
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No, you have to create this entry by yourself.
Newion said:
No, you have to create this entry by yourself.
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well really thank you I was searching for sauch an info a lot of time.
Is it possible to make a wifi lan connection with my laptop-to make the phone visible on the my network places on the pc or to view pc folder on the smartphone?
Hi, on my Polaris I've my Gmail account which updates itself through IMAP4.
I want the following: Wenn i have a WIFI connection the email will update through WIFI, without WIFI I want hem to automaticly connect with GPRS.
This is standard with internet explorer.
I allready found out that you can switch the connection manually: Mailoptions --> Adanced server options --> Network connection, then change it to internet or GPRS
Is there a way to do this by for example making a network connection which can use both???
Don't know too much about the topic itself, but maybe try a more advanced email program like Outlook?
SabbeRubbish said:
Don't know too much about the topic itself, but maybe try a more advanced email program like Outlook?
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? I use the standard email application on the Polaris which is outlook if i'm not mistaken.
heeleven said:
Hi, on my Polaris I've my Gmail account which updates itself through IMAP4....
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I'm still using my Hermes whith wm6, whith Outlook so there shouldn't be any real difference, but I haven't noticed the problem you're encountering. Whith WiFi on it uses it and when not, it uses GPRS/3G/HSDPA.
But then again, thw wifi network is set to connect to the internet, and the ISP settings are set to be automatically used.
gnick666 said:
I'm still using my Hermes whith wm6, whith Outlook so there shouldn't be any real difference, but I haven't noticed the problem you're encountering. Whith WiFi on it uses it and when not, it uses GPRS/3G/HSDPA.
But then again, thw wifi network is set to connect to the internet, and the ISP settings are set to be automatically used.
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Could you tell me your (basic) network options, the networdk which is selected can be found here: Mailoptions --> Adanced server options --> Network connection
heeleven said:
? I use the standard email application on the Polaris which is outlook if i'm not mistaken.
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Considering the fact that I got a 2-month free trial for Outlook, I doubt that the built-in email program is Outlook on the Polaris. Else, it would clearly state Outlook (M$ would not sell it anonymously , my guess )
heeleven said:
Hi, on my Polaris I've my Gmail account which updates itself through IMAP4.
I want the following: Wenn i have a WIFI connection the email will update through WIFI, without WIFI I want hem to automaticly connect with GPRS.
This is standard with internet explorer.
I allready found out that you can switch the connection manually: Mailoptions --> Adanced server options --> Network connection, then change it to internet or GPRS
Is there a way to do this by for example making a network connection which can use both???
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I use my e-mail account of my ISP.
When in range of my WLAN it uses WIFI else it will establish a connection with GPRS.
SabbeRubbish said:
Considering the fact that I got a 2-month free trial for Outlook, I doubt that the built-in email program is Outlook on the Polaris. Else, it would clearly state Outlook (M$ would not sell it anonymously , my guess )
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strange, becouse the programm is called 'outlook E-mail' it even has the same icon as it has on my desktop computer.
Aren't there any Polaris users who have the same problem??
If it is the software which email program do you suggest to use.
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Could you tell me your (basic) network options, the networdk which is selected can be found here: Mailoptions --> Adanced server options --> Network connection
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Yeah I can do that, 'The Internet', only two options are available in the specified menu, 'The Internet' and 'Work' nothing else.
And the default messaging app is Pocket Outlook since ancient times.
gnick666 said:
Yeah I can do that, 'The Internet', only two options are available in the specified menu, 'The Internet' and 'Work' nothing else.
And the default messaging app is Pocket Outlook since ancient times.
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Ok tanx, it seems that 'The Internet' is removed either by me or a programm, I was considering a hard reset for some other problems. (Activesync isn't working properly) so I think its the fasted way to solve this problem as wel.
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Ok tanx, it seems that 'The Internet' is removed either by me or a programm, I was considering a hard reset for some other problems. (Activesync isn't working properly) so I think its the fasted way to solve this problem as wel.
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After a hard reset still the same problem, the network connection selected for my IMAP mail is set to 'The Internet'
When connected to WIFI it will get my mail, when not, a pop up is displayed saying: Can't connect with current networkconfiguration. To change this configuration go to this link.
When I click the link I get connection configuration in which I didn't changed a thing.
I don't get it, doesn't anybody have the same problem as me.
Maby the new cooked ROM will help.
My Polaris configured automatically, I am not sure if it depends on the provider. I am using KPN.
It shows you the result during configuration.
Has yours completed normally?
I have had the same problem.
In Settings - Connections - Advanced - Select Networks - Choose there which connection u would like to use when device need to automaticly connect to the internet. I have there my GPRS Web settings and when i'm not on wifi it's using GPRS connection. When u have The internet there it cannot use it when u are not connected to it (when u are not on wifi).
DD_ said:
I have had the same problem.
In Settings - Connections - Advanced - Select Networks - Choose there which connection u would like to use when device need to automaticly connect to the internet. I have there my GPRS Web settings and when i'm not on wifi it's using GPRS connection. When u have The internet there it cannot use it when u are not connected to it (when u are not on wifi).
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Exactly, it's just weird that both type of connection can be used but you have to change it every time you want to use the other.
Which provider do you use??
---Alex--- said:
My Polaris configured automatically, I am not sure if it depends on the provider. I am using KPN.
It shows you the result during configuration.
Has yours completed normally?
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Currently i'm using Vodafone, but i'll switch to KPN in March, hopefully it will work properly then.
DD_ said:
I have had the same problem.
In Settings - Connections - Advanced - Select Networks - Choose there which connection u would like to use when device need to automaticly connect to the internet. I have there my GPRS Web settings and when i'm not on wifi it's using GPRS connection. When u have The internet there it cannot use it when u are not connected to it (when u are not on wifi).
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Simple stated, I can use both for e-mail and internet and WIFI get's priority over GPRS/UMTS when in WIFI range.
ok... I've had this same problem where my TC won't check email, windows live, etc through my wifi, despite being connected.
The reason is... my wifi connection was setup to say it connects to "work" as opposed to "the internet".
For those having the same problem as me, follow these instructions...
1) Click on start, settings, connections, then "wi-fi" icon
2) Press (hold down) on your wifi connection, and then click "edit".
3) change "connects to", to say "the internet".
4) Click next, next, and finish.
5) Close the settings menu and try again.
Worked for me!
PS... yes I know I'm a donkey for messing it up in the first place, but it's all good fun learning!
Same weird problem here now.
It use to work without problem. Wifi was preferred network.
When wifi not available, GPRS/UMTS (T-Mobile NL) was used. Since yesterday i'm not able to retrieve pop3 mail through G/3G anymore. Internet is ok and WindowsLive also no problem. Also pop3 mail through wifi is no problem.
I'm going to hardreset now.