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Is any difference charging my DHD form PC's USB then charging from original charger ?
I may be wrong, but I think wall charger provides more power than USB or car dock
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I've read many times that using USB, you battery might last longer than using the wall charger. I've never noticed this...
USB seems a bit slower than the wall charger but other than that seems the same.
Install Battery Monitor Widget, and you will see how much current each option gives at different levels of charge.
To be exact, the device DRAWS current, it's not a question of the highest output being the best. If the device can't receive more juice, the additional output cannot be used.
When the battery is nearly empty you will see the biggest current draw - as the charge gets closer to 100%, the amount the device draws drops, until it reaches 0mAh on full charge.
My OEM wall charger provides up to 1000mAh, and the PC USB provides 500mAh, you will initially charge the device faster with the wall charger, until the current drawn by the device drops beneath 500mAh - after which point they will charge equally fast.
That, in the case of my phone (with a Mugen 1500mAh battery) happens around the 60% charge mark. So if the charger outputs are as mentioned above, you wouldn't see any difference in the rate of charging after 60%
HTC wall charger can output 1A with data pin short-circuit. PC USB can output 500~600ma or 1A on some laptop but no data pin short-circuit.
Fast charge mode is 900mA. It is on when data-pin short-circuit is detected OR on a fast-charge enabled ROM (or say, kernel).
Otherwise, it only pull 500ma.
Use your battery in your way. Charge it when you like. DHD can replace battery.
Stating the obvious BUT, of course, you can access your phones storage when connected to PC via USB for charging!
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Also, be careful of using unpowered USB hubs - there may not be sufficient power on the port to charge effectively.
I think charger will have more power. :cyclops:
A wallcharger will always push more amps to the phone.
Don't get confused by people telling you, that wallcharging will damage your battery! That's just not true.
Every phone has an inbuild unit, that controls the amps going to the battery.
Charger outputs more power and therefore it charges faster. Some kernels have the option called "fast charge" which allow you phone to drain more power from the PC and allow it to charge almost as fast as via charger. You can not access files while connected to the PC if the "fast charge" option is enabled.
As already stated above, AC charging is generally faster.
Now many people say that charging by USB will make your phone last longer, but from my personal experience is quite opposite, plus, usb charging is easily interrupted (PC hibernating, stand-by, restarting, etc...). if you are comfortable with both ways (neither PC nor wall outlet too far away), use wall AC.
interesting, i noticed charging via AC (wall) gives my dying battery that extra oomph and seems to make my phone last longer in the day
I think Charger is always best than PC charging.
Its fast.
AC charging is faster due to a higher voltage and ma charge rate
USB uses a much more lower voltage and ma charge rate, it is true that USB charging is SLOWER and a myth is that USB charging does make your battery last longer.
On sense 2.1 I noticed my battery last 4 days with low - medium ussage because I only charged with USB but now I charge with AC with medium ussage my battery lasts a day.
With kernel tuner you can add a 4x4 widget which can tell you the voltage and mah raise / drain
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I think the power if you charger the mobile from Charger it will be faster more than PC charging
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As already stated above, AC charging is generally faster.
Now many people say that charging by USB will make your phone last longer, but from my personal experience is quite opposite, plus, usb charging is easily interrupted (PC hibernating, stand-by, restarting, etc...). if you are comfortable with both ways (neither PC nor wall outlet too far away), use wall AC.
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+1. I vote AC charging
Charging with Original charger is awesome
Charging from Orginal charger takes less time then chargin from a pc usb
Charging from charger is faster, but charging from USB is more stable, as far as I know...Because it has a balanced voltage all the time. Not sure though. Just heard from somewhere.
Hello,
I didn't use my tablet since 2 month and last week, i installed team EOS 4.2.2 JB rom.
After, my cable did'nt worked, When i tried to conect it to my computer, there was an error message that the tablet wasn't detect correctly.
And when i put the cable into the charger and the table to charge on the wall, i saw the icon on the right corner of the tablet charging but in the information battery, i sax that "Disconect" and the tablet % didn't grow up.... So i thought the cable was dead and i bouth one new on ebay.
With the new cable, no problem the tablet was detect and the charging with the charger was good. But after 2 days, i had new problems.
when i conect the tablet on my laptop, all is OK, the tablet is detect normally. But whn i try to charging with the charger on the wall, the tablet doesn't charge. I see the icon in the right corner is charging but in the battery informations, i see "disconect" again and the battery doesn't charge.
Yesterday, i saw a topic that i can put the charger on the freezer, i put it alle the night and i tried this morning but nothing the tablet does'nt charge.
On the charger, there is 2 parts, I open the little part with removing a screw and i tried to little move the 2 metal parts but nothing alwas the same problem.
So i think now the problem is not the new cable but the charger.... I know it's a specific voltage and if i try with my HTC ONE X charger, this will not work...
But maybe it's a problem with the tablet connect port?
I changed the rom and i installed the Cyanogen 4.2.2 this morning, and now when i conect the cable, with the computer, it's OK i see my tablet but the icon on the table isn't charging and i see "disconect in the battery information". And with the charger wall, it's the same, i have charge icon and i have disconect in the battery information
Do you think i must buy a new charger?
Sorry for my poor English my French
Try a trickle charge from the USB PC > Tablet
Plug the tablet cable into PC USB port and turn off the screen, then leave to trickle charge overnight
If you have the screen on it will not charge, so best to leave it off for a few hours to test if it is a charger problem
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Try a trickle charge from the USB PC > Tablet
Plug the tablet cable into PC USB port and turn off the screen, then leave to trickle charge overnight
If you have the screen on it will not charge, so best to leave it off for a few hours to test if it is a charger problem
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I Tried to connect PC USB > tablet with the screen turn off. It's not work
I tried to PC USB > tablet turn off and it's not work too...
the problem is the charger connextion on my tablet?
kevin761 said:
I Tried to connect PC USB > tablet with the screen turn off. It's not work
I tried to PC USB > tablet turn off and it's not work too...
the problem is the charger connextion on my tablet?
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When you use PC USB to charge, it will not show charging on the screen, you have to leave it overnight for best test results
The freezer trick should only be used for about 20 minutes just to cool the charger down and reset the cutout
Try trickle charge overnight, if it works, its the charger
I think this is because tablet use a lot of power when in use and that is why the tablet is discharging when you use it. PC has even less powerful USB charger so the tablet will probably be recharging VERY slowly or even discharging when you use it.
You should leave tablet overnight to recharge and it is better to charge it in one piece than constantly plugging and unplugging it from PC.
Have a nice day,
Žiga
ZigaG said:
I think this is because tablet use a lot of power when in use and that is why the tablet is discharging when you use it. PC has even less powerful USB charger so the tablet will probably be recharging VERY slowly or even discharging when you use it.
You should leave tablet overnight to recharge and it is better to charge it in one piece than constantly plugging and unplugging it from PC.
Have a nice day,
Žiga
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You should be able to charge and use it at the same time with the actual charger plugged in, but you are correct, with the PC you can not use and charge unless you mod your USB ports for extra power
Ok i will try to conect the tablet (power off) all the night to my computer but i think it will not charge...
And if it's not work, it's not a problem with the cable because i can use the cable to transfer media PC> Tablet, so it's a problem on the tablet connector?
Hello,
My tablet was charging all the night. She was at 22% and now 38.... It's very slow!!! But now, i know that my tablet and my cable are OK and my charger is the problem.
There is a solution to repair my charger or i must buy an other?
I'm searching to conect an old cable to my charger for rc cars. Whith my charger rc car, i can charge Nimh, Nicd and lipo accus.
I cutted an old cable for tf101. I think it's a USB 3.0 because i have 5 little cables.
I think i need to charge at 15V-1A... But i wouldlike to know what are the colors of negative and positive cable because in my TF101 cable i have this colors:
white-green-red-orange-yellow...
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I'm searching to conect an old cable to my charger for rc cars. Whith my charger rc car, i can charge Nimh, Nicd and lipo accus.
I cutted an old cable for tf101. I think it's a USB 3.0 because i have 5 little cables.
I think i need to charge at 15V-1A... But i wouldlike to know what are the colors of negative and positive cable because in my TF101 cable i have this colors:
white-green-red-orange-yellow...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087321
Try this, separate charger and its pins, then take it along with the cable and put it in a zip pouch, now freeze for say 2 hrs. Take it out let it return to normal temperature and then try charging. Remember freeze them in a zip pouch (air tight)
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I was just curious, lol. Would the phone break or something? Thanks.
patsimeon said:
I was just curious, lol. Would the phone break or something? Thanks.
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Oops, wrong section...Sorry! I don't know how to move or delete this. Anyway, my curiosity stays.
I think qi charging overrides USB charging, but it could be the other way around. Either way, the phone knows to deactivate one.
According to the battery monitor, wired charging (USB or A/C) overrides wireless charging. So, if you plug it in, it doesn't matter if you place it on the wireless charger or not.
I seem to recall someone at Google (on one of their product QA's for this phone) that even though it makes logical sense for the AC charger to take precedence (faster, less heat generation) but the QI charger is the one actually doing the charger.
I realize this contradicts what the battery status would indicate, but it is plausible that the indicator does not report it correctly.
Either way, the only time I can really see this being a factor for me even REMOTELY, is in the extremely rare event I have the phone plugged into my computer via USB, and sitting on my qi charger. But that almost never happens, I sync data to/from the phone over wifi just because, well, it's easier. It's not faster, but since it happens automatically it takes less effort.
In that case, I'd actually prefer the qi charger to work, since it's a faster charge than my USB port.
imagine the hilarity if both charging circuits worked though...sounds good in theory but I think we'd all have broken phones
I've plugged in my USB cable (hooked up to my computer via USB 3.0), while my phone was sitting on my Qi charger (nokia, 750mah), and the usb cable takes priority over the charge.
When wireless charging is in effect, you hear the NFC tone from the phone. Also the light on the charger turns on when its charging. It doesn't play when you lay a phone with USB plugged in, and the light doesn't turn on in front of the charger, so.
I'm pretty sure this would disrupt the space-time continuum.
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I've plugged in my USB cable (hooked up to my computer via USB 3.0), while my phone was sitting on my Qi charger (nokia, 750mah), and the usb cable takes priority over the charge.
When wireless charging is in effect, you hear the NFC tone from the phone. Also the light on the charger turns on when its charging. It doesn't play when you lay a phone with USB plugged in, and the light doesn't turn on in front of the charger, so.
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I can confirm that while setting on the wireless charger, the "charging" light is on on the charger, but if I plug the cable in, the light goes out. The wired charger is DEFINITELY overriding the wireless charger.
For people using OTG cables or external storage adapters on the microUSB slot they do require wireless charging to work while being "plugged in".
awesome question...I have a S5, which has a galaxy charging current app
does one exist for the nexus? if so, you could tell by the amps it is charging at
I have had my Verizon Galaxy S4 since February of this year. I've been using the stock Samsung AC charger that came with it. It's always charged the phone pretty fast if I wasn't using the phone. It would charge about 15% in 20 minutes. Now it's only charging about 3 or 4% in 20 or 30 minutes. Now I didn't do anything different to my phone. I've been on this same ROM for over a month and this is just now a problem in the last week. My wife has the exact phone and charger that I have and when I use her charger it charges just as rapidly as mine used to, so I know it's not the usb port on my phone itself. I haven't dropped or damaged my charger at all in any way either.
Does anyone have any ideas about why this is happening?
If it charges fast on you wife's charger you've pretty much answered your own question.
Try using her cable with your charger, if it still charges slow then get a new charger.
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If it charges fast on you wife's charger you've pretty much answered your own question.
Try using her cable with your charger, if it still charges slow then get a new charger.
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Ok, I'll give that a shot. Thanks.
I had the same problem too ! Did a full battery reset and everything is going good now !
You have to charge it for 12 hours and drain your battery until your phone don't boot. Charge it and here you are !
Yeah these devices act funky every blue moon. My wifes didn't even recognize ANY oem charger for a week. Only detected others as USB devices causing slow charge rate. Removing dust, component cleaner, fresh install, all did no good. Eventually it just resolved the issue itself. All chargers work normally again.
change the usb cables
I also had the same problem before. I'd been using the original charger and usb cable and noticed that charging takes a lot of time than normal.
I found that it's on the usb cable. I accidentally found it when I used gsam battery monitor. It displays the current being received by your phone when charging. Using the original usb cable, it only gets around 600mah. I tried another usb cable (from a previous Samsung device) and now my phone gets 1,900mah (closed to the charger output of 2,000 mah).
Every since I changed the usb cable, my charging is fast now. Hope this helps.
I would try a new cable and Charger that is rated 2.1 amps or better if will be charged real quick
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I would try a new cable and Charger that is rated 2.1 amps or better if will be charged real quick
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I noticed that using the Pure Nexus rom my charging time became significantly faster. In fact I can get a full charge from nearly dead in just over an hour. This is using the charger and cable that came with the phone.
I had the same problem too ! Did a full battery reset and everything is going good now !
MT tenso
How do you make full battery reset?
The charging rate is based on the output rating of the charger, which is determined by the resistance value between the Data+ and Data- USB pins. If you use a cheap cable with high(er) internal cabling resistance, that will throw off the detected charger output capacity rating, and knock you down to a lower charging current and longer charging time.
Also, one time, even with the original charger and original cable, I couldn't charge at anything more than the default USB 500mA. I ended up having to power off the phone, and power it on again, which fixed the charging current and speed problem.
Install this app & check if it is getting charged at max current; anything less than 1200 mA when screen on & 1900 mA when screen off, you need to change your cable or charger
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abmantis.galaxychargingcurrent.free
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I read somewhere that if you activate airplane mode the battery is charging faster.
I know Adaptive Fast Charging doesn't kick in unless the battery is very low - less than 20%, I believe. And, yes, I have the 15 watt charger(s) that supports AFC/QC2.0
Does anyone know of a way, or if it's even possible, to trigger the phone to kick in fast charging at low, but not painfully low, rates?
Hi
My S6 always charges at the quickest speed possible because when I connect my Samsung Charger the phone tells me I have connected the fast charger and I know it is charging quickly because if I use another charger the time for a full charge will increase significantly. Are you using the official fast charger?
Yes, I've always experimented with the high-power charger that came with the phone.
Fast charging will speed up or slow down automatically based on how charged the battery is. The emptier the battery, the faster it will charge. This charge will slow down gradually as the battery fills up. I don't think there's a way to facilitate this, and even if there was, it probably would not be recommended to do as it might damage the battery.
Fast Charging is a concept, that comes into play when you are connected to the USB port of your PC. Typically when connected in MTP mode (or PTP FWIW), Phone charges slowly in order to prevent damage to the usb port. Certain kernels can permit fast charge provided your laptop has fastcharge usb.
For Wall charging, Rapidcharge technology does exist but requires original samsung charger. With any other OEM charger, it'd be a matter of luck since it'd need to have that 11th pin on the microusb.
Everything else that @Japultra is correct.
I'm almost too embarrassed to admit this, but it was the micro USB cord that wasn't letting my phone avail itself of the high-power adapters. I came across a thicker USB cable and, thinking/hoping that thicker cable also translated to higher gauge conducts, decided to try it out with my phone that was at 65%. Yup. The phone now indicated "fast charging".
I appreciate your forbearance, folks!
bwb8771 said:
I'm almost too embarrassed to admit this, but it was the micro USB cord that wasn't letting my phone avail itself of the high-power adapters. I came across a thicker USB cable and, thinking/hoping that thicker cable also translated to higher gauge conducts, decided to try it out with my phone that was at 65%. Yup. The phone now indicated "fast charging".
I appreciate your forbearance, folks!
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So the original cable that came with the s6 wasn't working for you?