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Chocolate-Vanilla ROM
CommManager 9 Buttons (VoIP Ready)
ArcSoft MMS 3.5.1.22
Intent MIDletManager 11.1.7.1029 (still testing)
Camera version 3.00(Build 25498)
Adobe ReaderLE
Pim Backup 1.3
Voice Speed Dial (reinstalled)
SmartSkey 0.56
Voice Command -removed completly
Added WM5 wmv9 Codecs
Voice Command
MS Voice Command 1.6 US HERE and HERE
MS Voice Command 1.6 German HERE and HERE
MS Voice Command 1.6 FR HERE and HERE
MS Voice Command 1.5 UK HERE
Note: I Don't use VoiceCommand, and I don't know if and how it will work. Please post reviews.
Lots of tweaks
-Almoust all tweaks from Wizard's Wiki
-NO PERFORMANCE TWEAKS - they take out memory, just use battery status
-Lots of things changed ... almoust everything you can imagine
-This is fully striped, so don't expect to find pictures or music besides the ones that are used.
-No Extended ROM so this should work for G3 and G4
-Page Pool is 4MB
-Low power consumption (in idle it reaches 30mA)
-Low CPU Usage --at beta1 I had 15 - 30 % now it's variating from 0 to 3
This thread is open to reports and suggestions
NOTE: As a start point I have used mUn's first release aRTM 10.2.0.8 WWE because I considered it to be the most stabile one and easy to start with and because it wasn't loaded with apps. I have his permision.
Thank You mUn !
Also, without Molski's Kitchen and tutorial, It would have been alot harder.
Tank you Molski
Last but not least, I want to thank to all the big Chefs around here .
Thank you !!! for your tutorials, your experience, and for the time spent. Now I have a clue on how difficult and stressing this can be.
This project is still in development and hopefully with the help of vijay555
a later version will be really unique.
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Mirror 1 (MegaUpload)
Mirror 2 (putstuff) Thx to papamopps
Mirror 3 (putstuff) Thx to trojan9x
Mirror 4
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it takes about 8 minutes to flash and it hangs for about a minute at 100%
Do not remove the cable
Recomended:
Radio 2.19.11 UK
Mirror 1 (RapidShare)
Mirror 2 (RapidShare)
Patches
- Default Dialpad(only for 1.0 or previous)
- Microphone FIX(only for 1.0 or previous)
- Default Theme (black bar & blue background)
- BatteryStatus beta3
- BatteryStatus beta2
- Collection of Themes and mirror(Thx to Epimazzo)
- Xplore 1.1 Default Theme
1. Right after boot. Before I installed any programs the best I got was 33.2MB free RAM available
2. SK Tools Benchmark CPU at 195Mhz - without overclocking
3. SK Tools Benchmark CPU at 273Mhz - overclocked with included batterystatus
4. About
whats the difference between this (vanilla WM6) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299336 vanilla wm6 rom ediion that was also aRTM version tweaked up ? so yours is also from aRTM version as i read iam going to test it if u release it and see the difference between the two hoop that yours will be satble and more faster
looks good! awaiting more info and more details!
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whats the difference between this (vanilla WM6) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299336 vanilla wm6 rom ediion that was also aRTM version tweaked up ? so yours is also from aRTM version as i read iam going to test it if u release it and see the difference between the two hoop that yours will be satble and more faster
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That is cooked by nottosmart, obvious....I don't know what's the difference , what do you want me to say, that mine is better ?
We only have in common mUn's first release.
More pictures will be coming soon.
I still have to work little more, and I'm totaly wasted. Over a week night and day it took me to get this far, and already I'm starting to forget things
Funny ... I think I flashed my Wizard about 50 times this week Hope I don't break it
More specs will be added into first post
-Lots of things changed ... almoust everything you can imagine
like what for example
I am runnin mun's ROM at the moment and am kinda happy although stripped of all ringtones i dont use anyway sounds nice!
pencilcase said:
-Lots of things changed ... almoust everything you can imagine
like what for example
I am runnin mun's ROM at the moment and am kinda happy although stripped of all ringtones i dont use anyway sounds nice!
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Besides tweaks ?
well ...keyboard, all skins/themes, dialpad ... welcome screen , some new icons, search moved to start, lots of shortcuts moved to other folders ... tasks, notes, calculator , simmanager...moved to office mobile ... Internet Sharing,ActiveSync, Windows Update, Remote Desktop Mobile, Comm Manager ...added to the new Connections folder in Programs
All themes and keypad, dialpad, pictures, splash screens ...are made by me, specially for this rom .... and i'm tired, lol
Lots to come, I'm just waiting good ideas.
I have some other thoughts , but mine are too hard or impossible to accomplish, at least for me...
anichillus said:
That is cooked by nottosmart, obvious....I don't know what's the difference , what do you want me to say, that mine is better ?
We only have in common mUn's first release.
More pictures will be coming soon.
I still have to work little more, and I'm totaly wasted. Over a week night and day it took me to get this far, and already I'm starting to forget things
Funny ... I think I flashed my Wizard about 50 times this week Hope I don't break it
More specs will be added into first post
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eyah, me also i have flashed it in this month many times and every ROM is good one and it keeps better and better !!!! thanks for the info wil wait till urelease and i will test it ANY NEW ROM !!! thanks alot for the time that u make to make this ROM hoop that there will be new keyboard skins and i like the iphone keyboard skin !!! please f u r still making it then put the SMS backup also in this ROM really handy software when someone wants to upgrade more often.
THEMES: can u make an iphone theme not the icons just the tsk file with the iphone fish picture
these if u have the time if not we can install and make them later !!!! and can u put info about pagepool and the RAM adn ROm usage !!
hoop its not alot of info asked !! take care nd we are waiting for the release
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eyah, me also i have flashed it in this month many times and every ROM is good one and it keeps better and better !!!! thanks for the info wil wait till urelease and i will test it ANY NEW ROM !!! thanks alot for the time that u make to make this ROM hoop that there will be new keyboard skins and i like the iphone keyboard skin !!! please f u r still making it then put the SMS backup also in this ROM really handy software when someone wants to upgrade more often.
THEMES: can u make an iphone theme not the icons just the tsk file with the iphone fish picture
these if u have the time if not we can install and make them later !!!! and can u put info about pagepool and the RAM adn ROm usage !!
hoop its not alot of info asked !! take care nd we are waiting for the release
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thanks man for working on a clean rom version, we've all be hoping for one that is stable,runs faster than WM5, has good ram, and doesn't have any battery drain problems... i think we would all be happy with just that
Sounds good bro...looks like you're getting some good numbers there. A new look with some new custom icons and splash screens will be nice as well.
Mahmood said:
these if u have the time if not we can install and make them later !!!! and can u put info about pagepool and the RAM adn ROm usage !!
hoop its not alot of info asked !! take care nd we are waiting for the release
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Page pool is 4MB, added in the start post
I'm using it right now, I have installed SkTools and Resco suite
I am using registry explorer for now and it didn't got below 30MB free available. (31 I have now, after an hour from last reboot, and I have resco running)
Pretty steady ... STABLE , I mean
It's fast ... what can I say ... see the benchmark pictures.
I am not using overclocking right now and it's responding pretty good. without lag.
I took the note, there will be SMS Backup and also a task manager ... i'm almoust sure there will be task manager 2.7 , it has also registry editor and alot of other things ...so I'll kill a bounch of rabbits with a single shot
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I added some more info on first post ... I just keep forgeting things :d
Anchillus,
Good one liked it, hope to see and test it soon.
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Nice one anichillus! I'll make sure to try yours!
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Page pool is 4MB, added in the start post
I took the note, there will be SMS Backup and also a task manager ... i'm almoust sure there will be task manager 2.7 , it has also registry editor and alot of other things ...so I'll kill a bounch of rabbits with a single shot
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including those things would be going away from the vanilla room you are aiming at. for instance i do not use sms backup since i dont really use sms anyway and registry editor is -> total commander for me so including that would be useless for me to. for task manager i use the one that changes the X button to really close, so no need for any others either. dont get me wrong I dont want you to change the rom to suit my personal need, I am just trying to get you to stick with the vanilla idea cause I think its the best.
this is going to be an interesting ROM the page pool and the RAm is good and as we see the bench mark it is pretty sart and it is leading theaRTM rom as we read this thread Hoop that we all will stick for a while with this rom !!!
anichillus said:
Just a peek
BatteryStatus 1.04.201 beta3 build 0178
ArcSoft MMS 3.5.1.22
Risidoro Intent MIDletManager 11.1.7.1023
Camera version 3.00(Build 25498)
I am waiting suggestions. Remember, I still want it to be a clean rom
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Hi..
Please make a clean rom...
But think about it:
- Adobe Reader LE
- MT Software TodayAgenda
Best Regards and good luck...
Mahmood said:
this is going to be an interesting ROM the page pool and the RAm is good and as we see the bench mark it is pretty sart and it is leading theaRTM rom as we read this thread Hoop that we all will stick for a while with this rom !!!
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@pencilcase I get your point, I don't want it to be loaded with apps, but with the most usefull one, and those that all people use.
And to proove how tired I was last night , I thought he was talking about contacts backup
P.S. Is that Jennifer Aniston in you avatar ?
I mean ... everyone uses contacts, it's a pda, right... and when you play or use somthin' that stresses alot of cpu, you need an overclocking tool, the best in my opinion is batterystatus... also I liked very much the little thing from spb pocket plus, I mean the alt-tab thing, but unfortunately I wasn't able to strip it ...mabe later. I like the idea also of having a reg tool and a task manager first time I use it ... not necessary this one, any one
The task manager you are talking about is already in the rom(the one that closes apps when you tap the x)
Open to new suggestions . I would be ready to release the beta 2 vanilla, at the stage I'm at, but just little moddifications, like making new splash screens, because the original ones I did the silly thing of making them public before the release lol and I'm still not satisfied with the dialpad, it's no use if you're not using my default theme
The good thing ... after 7 hours (gee the sleep was good) from last reboot, and after I used it before i got to sleep it was showing 30.5(it started with 32.2) ...and now it's 30.9 free ram, only batterystatus overclocked to 273Mhz in the bacground and the battery is still at 100%
Hope it stays there
Thx all for your comments and so sorry for waiting ... I think first release will be tonight, because right now I got some work to do, so I'll be out untill then
After that you can help me getting rid of the posible glitches.
Ruca said:
Hi..
Please make a clean rom...
But think about it:
- Adobe Reader LE
- MT Software TodayAgenda
Best Regards and good luck...
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Don't know about MT Software TodayAgenda, but Adobe reader will be in the office folder
thx
anichillus said:
Don't know about MT Software TodayAgenda, but Adobe reader will be in the office folder
thx
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Hi...
If you want...
Best regards and good luck
Do include smartskey.
It is used by almost everybody.
Can u upload the rom in an hour.
Patience......
samy.3660 said:
Can u upload the rom in an hour.
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What's the rush?, i don't mean to be like narcissist or anything but the more we wait have patience for the ROM, the better it will be cooked up, and the better quality we get :-D
Okay guys & gals,
Just thought I'd start a topic about our Today Screen.
I love a good launcher program (which I believe is simply what a today screen is). It took me a while to get to like WM6.5, but I do now. The disadvantage is that I still have to press my Start Menu for other apps... and for 64MB Uni's the disadvantage is only too obvious.
I hope you don't mind me quoting, but this is what started me thinking...
gewin said:
What I would like to do is set the programs screen ie the screen full of icons as the default when you start up the Universal. One less step and simpler for the end user.
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phezthie said:
home screen plus is what yu need, i guess....
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Yeah, oh for a simple Today Screen. I'm with you there.
Why do we have one method of accessing our apps on the Today screen, and yet another from the Start menu. (And for me a third when I want to choose a game to play).
I suppose nobody has come up with something that everyone agrees on!
Hence we have such platforms as Android, maybe.
As phezthie says, HomeScreen PlusPlus is a cool app. However, if you can't find a theme that someone has made that you like, you must be willing to write a script. Personally I love this app, but spend too much time tweaking my scripts! Ouch
Another one is ThrottleLauncher. A lovely graphic approach, but a bit heavy/slow and a few bugs. Very easy to set up, though... but perhaps more of an interest with 128MB devices and maybe a little restricted.
Anyone got a great Today Screen or Launcher they think others would like?
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Hi Jonny
Interesting thread indeed
I used for a long time HTC Home large VGA by pj07 and I was very satified as I had all I needed on that home screen.
Now I´m using titanium but I´m agree with your comments above.
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Cheers,
I use Titanium too and its going pretty well for my needs till now.This his a good idea.
Hello thank you for starting this thread,as i am obsessed lately with this subject. I tried EVERYTHING that i could find,and so far,on my 64 MB uni,i can say only that i managed to find NOTHING in my taste.
Throttle launcher is awesome but no way it can work on my device,buggy and extremely slow,same as Pointui Home 2, with the POINTSENSE suite 2.0.0.6 looks awesome but useless on my device. For everyone with a 128 MB device i would recommend it,there are many many interesting skins/themes and applets on the Pointui website http://www.pointui.com/
Also,i am waiting for a new or fixed version of Touch Shell Pro ,which looks promising also,has some nice skins too, version now is 1.1.0.17,but has too many issues still,on my UNI at least.
http://www.touch-shell.com/
Also i tried FEWidgets Ultimate,again nice idea but too slow on my UNI.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544874
There is now also this Sense UI Theme for FEWidgets Ultimate.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-sense-ui-theme-for-fewidgets-ultimate.html
As for launchers,i tried plenty,most of them too slow ofc,the nicer ones
Easy Today Launcher is a nice today plugin,you can combine it with some others to make a nice today screen also :
http://www.loffactory.webs.com/
MyAction is a nice launcher you can pick up here versions 1.1 and new 2.0 :
http://www.8080.pl/
This one looks real nice but was way too slow on my 64 mb - Touchlaunch :
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-touchlaunch.html
And for last,the best thing i found to be part of my today screen,is a skin for marsware weather panel 2009 - here is the whole thing :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401781
When i get time i will put some more up,when i remember them,i really tried a lot of things out. And i really really wish that my UNI has 128 MB
I never looked back since getting SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, I think it's the best. In fact, once I got it, the ROM UI became irrelevant, I even have WM5 on one of my Unis in order to have the VC and not suffer much.
Complexity
Jonny
Thanks for starting this thread. I have also played with a number of the Today screen graphical setup programs, some are quite good. However, since upgrading to 6.5 I quite like the standard program screen that comes up when you select start.
My question is why do we need any of these today screen programs, when the icons and screen are already there. We really don't want to add any more complexity to the setup or anything else to use up precious memory.
I originally asked the question to see if there was just a way of bypassing the today screen altogether, so that the standard program screen came up by default.
Now thanks to you we have the collective minds thinking about it.
@gewin:
I actually got your idea. But couldn't find the function OS calls (@shell32.exe) when you hit on start menu.
Once we get then it is just the easy part....
I use SPB Pocket Plus, because it can handle other today plugins in different tabs. And it runs quickly on UNI64...
Thanks guys, this has been very informative. Especially to PalDragon for all the review... I'm going to give some of those a try. Cheers. What do others think?
MyAction - I found I didn't like. It looks ok if you use all the icons, otherwise you have half a screen full of blue +'s. I would prefer slide to screen, rather than use of a Prev/Next button. You also need to add all the apps yourself, it wasn't self-populating.
TouchLaunch - like. However only 1 item per line means a lot of scrolling, and the scrolling can be quite slow. Nice that you can make categories. Latest version here. Smooth (on my 128MB Uni)
EasyToday Launcher - @gewin, this is what you want! It's not self-populating, but I do like it. And as PalDragon pointed out, you can add other Today items with it, if you wish.
enigma1nz said:
I never looked back since getting SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, I think it's the best. In fact, once I got it, the ROM UI became irrelevant, I even have WM5 on one of my Unis in order to have the VC and not suffer much.
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i completely agree, its not free though but worth it...
Hi Jonny.. can you please attache some pics of your today screen if you haven't yet, I use HTC Home its got all i need even wheather, Messaging etc... But i wonder if its possible to add some applications to the wm6.5 on that cool up down slide. This made me stop using HTC Home but now i have some app's missing on my today.
my today screen is unintersting. I use WM6.5 'Ron Arad Orange' with CHome editor* for my apps (piccy1). I used to have weather plugin* but this seemed to make my GPS navigation freeze intermittently. I use QuickMenu* for my task switcher (piccy2) and iReflect icons* in my start menu (piccy3) with honeycomb start menu*. (Also, once used ATContacts widget*).
However I am still looking for a good 'app launcher' for games. I use fexploreext* set to 'Icon View' (see piccy4&5). Sadly fexploreext doesn't seem to work in WM6.5.1
I did once create a HomeScreen++ theme* for back when it was BatteryStatus, but haven't kept it up to date. It also had weather. The funny thing about weather widgets is that whenever I want to look at the forecast, I always want to update it ... so it seemed reasonable to stick with weather from an internet page! (perhaps because in UK weather is so changeable, I don't know!)
however, I am beginning to like SPB Mobile Shell (unsure how long the trial is for). What themes are people using? enigma1nz? phezthie?
FEWidgets and throttlelauncher seem similar, but a poor mans copy?
*if you want any of these files, just PM me.
spb mobile shell is really impressive and powerful (the latest is v3.5), ive been using ms v2 since tomal's 8.5. however, based from my experience, v3.5 is not advisable using tomal's wm6.5 roms (v9 & 10) due to slow response and occasional freeze. same with other wm6.5 cooked roms i tried, the reason why ram upgrade is imperative, at least for me, to enjoy the latest rom with latest spb.
off course, another solution i think is if our great uni rom chefs will always consider releasing vanilla of their great work...
UltimateLaunch
http://www.ultimatelaunch.de/index_en.html
Setup is a bit of a hassle (I've been messing around in Android, so a lot of Windows Mobile/Phone stuff seems more complex to customize), but if you're willing to put in the time, it's a rock solid-app and can customize to a T. It's also the least memory-hungry of what I've tried.
The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't accommodate rotation very well unless you count out pixels and just set it up so that in landscape it looks good even though the bottom of your screen is cut off.
I've tried Lakeridge (think Titanic, flashy, but *will* crash), ThrottleLauncher, Win6.5, SPB, SBSH. I keep coming back to this.
I used most of the GI app there and i liked WAD2. and i used with my custom theme when i was in wm 6.1, now with 6.5 due to memory issue i can not run it. so i'm using titanium with some customization.... see pic's below...
Hey Rajiv
Jane is so beautiful!!
Yes, very nice Jane, mate
orb3000 said:
Hey Rajiv
Jane is so beautiful!!
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Yes, very nice Jane, mate
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Thanx a lot Guyz...
i envy you mate
phezthie said:
i envy you mate
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He he
common guys no comment on titanium ....
cookers is it posible to make a 3d look on to wm 6.1 just as in the wm 6.5 rom's a don't like the 6.5 rom's becouse the are to slow if have seen several 3d looks in deverent forums on xda i'm jusing onyx 4.8 ultimate it's fast and stable just now the looks of 3d please help here is the link for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=573152
link to 3d look
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=573152
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cookers is it posible to make a 3d look on to wm 6.1 just as in the wm 6.5 rom's a don't like the 6.5 rom's becouse the are to slow if have seen several 3d looks in deverent forums on xda i'm jusing onyx 4.8 ultimate it's fast and stable just now the looks of 3d please help
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and if have seen it on qvga models in wm 6.5 why can't it bedone on to a 6.1 qvga ?
Hi Carpintero
The title of your thread is very misleading, "3d on elfin" . You should change it to "TouchFlo 3D style theme" and maybe someone will help
Good luck
YEP but dont know how to do that
tito12 said:
Hi Carpintero
The title of your thread is very misleading, "3d on elfin" . You should change it to "TouchFlo 3D style theme" and maybe someone will help
Good luck
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Easy:
Go to your 1st post, click "edit", then "go advanced" there you can edit your title and don't forget to "save"
i want this rom like anything
plzzzzz cookers do something!!!!
my all best regards with yaaaa
thanks in advance
thank i have made a new title thanks
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carpintero said:
don't like the 6.5 rom's becouse the are to slow
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That's odd, I have tried 6.1 and 6.5 on two separate Elves, and the 6.5 may boot slower, but after that it is quicker....
not wiht me ,all the apps and calender ,start in a slower way ,sms starts slower ,so don't agree wiht you perhaps you have a super model
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That's odd, I have tried 6.1 and 6.5 on two separate Elves, and the 6.5 may boot slower, but after that it is quicker....
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not wiht me ,all the apps and calender ,start in a slower way ,sms starts slower ,so don't agree wiht you perhaps you have a super model
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Sometimes, when you have a lot of messages and you import them on WM 6.5 with PIM Backup - cprog.exe is going crazy and uses all CPU power. Maybe it happend also for you and thats why its working slower. Its only my suggestion, and it doesn`t hurt to check
I like WM 6.5 because it happens to have better RAM memory management, and its really faster than 6.1. (or is it my imagination )
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Sometimes, when you have a lot of messages and you import them on WM 6.5 with PIM Backup - cprog.exe is going crazy and uses all CPU power. Maybe it happend also for you and thats why its working slower. Its only my suggestion, and it doesn`t hurt to check
I like WM 6.5 because it happens to have better RAM memory management, and its really faster than 6.1. (or is it my imagination )
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My cents :
I think if you have M2D 2.0 already on your phone then all you need is to install the cab provided at the bottom of the thread mentioned in post#1.
EDIT : Sorry for the wrong info. The cab there is just a fix for one issue. My bad .
chota_shivaji said:
My cents :
I think if you have M2D 2.0 already on your phone then all you need is to install the cab provided at the bottom of the thread mentioned in post#1.
EDIT : Sorry for the wrong info. The cab there is just a fix for one issue. My bad .
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- Can some one search "[email protected] 2.6 Look M2Dv2.cab" on XDA?
- I believe it was some where but dont have the link handy .
NOP ,it's on a clean instal ,i have 2 shame divice's 3450p 128/256 mb and don;t know why it is slower , in my experience the are not so fast as the 6.1 from onyx ultimate 4.8
Integral85 said:
Sometimes, when you have a lot of messages and you import them on WM 6.5 with PIM Backup - cprog.exe is going crazy and uses all CPU power. Maybe it happend also for you and thats why its working slower. Its only my suggestion, and it doesn`t hurt to check
I like WM 6.5 because it happens to have better RAM memory management, and its really faster than 6.1. (or is it my imagination )
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- Can some one search "[email protected] 2.6 Look M2Dv2.cab" on XDA?
- I believe it was some where but dont have the link handy .
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I think this is it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560041
I tried the cab file and it doesn't work...
maybe it only works on the prophet rom
YEP thats for prohet,sorry i haven seen nobody that interesting is in a good working 6.1 wiht d3 styl why
in_da_cloud said:
I tried the cab file and it doesn't work...
maybe it only works on the prophet rom
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YEP thats for prohet,sorry i haven seen nobody that interesting is in a good working 6.1 wiht d3 styl why
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nobody even interested to post the base kithen or new rom
Manila, Manila 2.1, Manila 2.5, Sense.
Cool, Eye catchers, Smooth, etc. etc. etc.
These add-ons make the Topaz look and feel better. Just scroll left, scroll right, touch the thing and it rollz.
Is this really needed?
I don't think so. I have tried a lot of roms with these interfaces. Indeed the eyes are satisfied. But the performance is not.
I want when press the green send button the dialer to appear immediately, not after the phone first wake up. I want when executing something the thing to be run, rather than waiting sometimes ridiculous seconds until the appearance.
I was bored and bored with waiting. Really why something to be loaded into my system if that is not what works for me?? I work with dialer, contacts, calendar, run various applications. Why to waste system resources on interfaces???
My boredom lead to removing the sense through the today settings and
adding some today plugins, like launcher. And of course – topaz keyboard control for keys mapping.
The result is much much faster phone, which works for me, not for the interface.
Edit: WM 6.1. is fast, but a lot of features from 2009 are missing, that is why I prefer WM6.5.
if you want speed install wm 6.1 with no interface.
orlean, agree completely
orlean said:
Manila, Manila 2.1, Manila 2.5, Sense.
Cool, Eye catchers, Smooth, etc. etc. etc.
These add-ons make the Topaz look and feel better. Just scroll left, scroll right, touch the thing and it rollz.
Is this really needed?
I don't think so. I have tried a lot of roms with these interfaces. Indeed the eyes are satisfied. But the performance is not.
I want when press the green send button the dialer to appear immediately, not after the phone first wake up. I want when executing something the thing to be run, rather than waiting sometimes ridiculous seconds until the appearance.
I was bored and bored with waiting. Really why something to be loaded into my system if that is not what works for me?? I work with dialer, contacts, calendar, run various applications. Why to waste system resources on interfaces???
My boredom lead to removing the sense through the today settings and
adding some today plugins, like launcher. And of course – topaz keyboard control for keys mapping.
The result is much much faster phone, which works for me, not for the interface.
Edit: WM 6.1. is fast, but a lot of features from 2009 are missing, that is why I prefer WM6.5.
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which features do you mean??????
cyron_at
Basically I lack WIFI router integrated (I know I can install it separately);
And I had some bad expirence with some settings which I can not recall now.
But the number of question marks in your post made me look for another 6.1. realase. I am now downloading tess 6.1. from august.
What do you use?
use tess and you will be fine).
and if 6.1 is ugly to you try home ui or new infinity ui. they are speedy too.
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cyron_at
Basically I lack WIFI router integrated (I know I can install it separately);
And I had some bad expirence with some settings which I can not recall now.
But the number of question marks in your post made me look for another 6.1. realase. I am now downloading tess 6.1. from august.
What do you use?
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I am using duttys HG R6...very stable; but try them all and make your choice...
So this has anything to do with themes?
I didnt think so. Try posting in the right section, then maybe your phone will be speedier.
xboxhaxorz said:
So this has anything to do with themes?
I didnt think so. Try posting in the right section, then maybe your phone will be speedier.
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The forum is titled " Topaz Themes, Applications and Software"
Sense 2.1 & 2.5 fit 2 of these categories....
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So this has anything to do with themes?
I didnt think so. Try posting in the right section, then maybe your phone will be speedier.
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chill man he posted about the fact that mannila sucks and he coudnt be more correct.
I'm with you! Stopped using Manila a few days ago and my mobile experience has never been better. Using no today plug-ins now and my phone is faster, lighter and more stable than ever before. Memory usage is now 33% on a fresh boot and my home screen is uncluttered showing only my wallpaper, which looks great.
The most important thing for me was organising my start menu so that all my apps are readily accessable. That done, it's easy for me to access everything i need quickly, in fact faster than it was using Manila. I find Winmo 6.5 has everything i need with exception of a few things, and for those there are great free alternatives without having to resort to Manila bloat. For instance i use Nitrogen as a music player which is ten times better than Windows mobile media player OR Manila player.
Of course your mileage will vary but in my opinion the OP is right. Get yourself a good 6.5 ROM, install apps for the things you need/use a lot and use the start menu to access them.
Hi DirkGently1,
Hi guys;
I tried WM6.5. then reverted to 6.1.
I have running in the background: FingerKeyboard, AutoCallRecord, PlayPause, Topazkbgkontrol.
Memory after restart... 29%
I use Topaz Essential 6.1. v.2f
And the best part is that I don't want to flash new rom anymore :
orlean said:
Hi DirkGently1,
Hi guys;
I tried WM6.5. then reverted to 6.1.
I have running in the background: FingerKeyboard, AutoCallRecord, PlayPause, Topazkbgkontrol.
Memory after restart... 29%
I use Topaz Essential 6.1. v.2f
And the best part is that I don't want to flash new rom anymore :
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So true. Once you find a good ROM there's no reason to change. Stability and speed are what makes a good user experience and Manila, or any other add-on UI, runs contrary to that by adding complexity, instability and bloat.
i hate to say this twice but realy , try infinity. runs realy great on topaz. it maybe not complete replacment yet but its usable
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i hate to say this twice but realy , try infinity. runs realy great on topaz. it maybe not complete replacment yet but its usable
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But what does it do that i can't do without it?
well. nothing realy. but its nice to have shortcuts the way you want them and see what time it is. and all that is pretty without slowdowns
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582081
Just a nod to the chef here for people who like a clean rom without any bloatware. Xara 6.5.x clean is working perfectly on my Topaz and i LOVE it!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582081
Just a nod to the chef here for people who like a clean rom without any bloatware. Xara 6.5.x clean is working perfectly on my Topaz and i LOVE it!
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Great! That is what I am always looking for! I dont understand how can I pass that. nah....
Thanks for the link dude
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Great! That is what I am always looking for! I dont understand how can I pass that. nah....
Thanks for the link dude
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My pleasure!
This is the 1st truly useable clean rom that has been released for the Topaz and it is really spot on. Even the default Windows Mobile keyboard is useable, in fact much improved from previous iterations.
Kudos to the chef.
Ï hate Manila and I hate 6.5 -and I'll probably also hate 7
i ve posted the new version of htc sense with the other cabs that we need for running on ours tg01 and other wvga device
install this for first NETcf 3.5
then in order sdkcerts
AUDIO
oem audio
sd hc for to see microsd card
Music tab fix
image album fix
after you can install the sense cab
2.5.2019
for change the language you can use this app
mlm 0.6
but one question now: What about free RAM after install and use this apps ?
BIBUBO BCJ said:
but one question now: What about free RAM after install and use this apps ?
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it depends of your rom...if you have the toshiba rom no brand you has about 50mb
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i ve posted the new version of htc sense with the other cabs that we need for running on ours tg01 and other wvga device
thank you for sharing with us!
the cab has 24 MB. I think is a light version and not full worked sense?
pls describe what has function and what fails
thanks!
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Is it possible this sense cab has been run through Chainfire's CFC Compression utilities?
mirolg said:
melpycar said:
i ve posted the new version of htc sense with the other cabs that we need for running on ours tg01 and other wvga device
thank you for sharing with us!
the cab has 24 MB. I think is a light version and not full worked sense?
pls describe what has function and what fails
thanks!
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Yeh same question here! hey miro, glad to see you got yourself a galaxy tab, i also got mine a month ago! do you still have your tg01?
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I tried installing this, 2 things:
After installing the cab for sense, before you restart your tg01 remember to run the sdhc cab otherwise you won't have access to your sd card!
Also, weather does not seem to work for me.
Had to hard reset my device
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I tried installing this, 2 things:
After installing the cab for sense, before you restart your tg01 remember to run the sdhc cab otherwise you won't have access to your sd card!
Also, weather does not seem to work for me.
Had to hard reset my device
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thanks, how much ROM memory does.it take up after install?
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mirolg said:
Yeh same question here! hey miro, glad to see you got yourself a galaxy tab, i also got mine a month ago! do you still have your tg01?
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Yes, i have my TG01 baby also. Galaxy tab and froyo 2.2 is so cool. I have flash with XJM6 firmware.
Sent from my GT-P1000 using XDA App
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mirolg said:
olyloh6696 said:
Yes, i have my TG01 baby also. Galaxy tab and froyo 2.2 is so cool. I have flash with XJM6 firmware.
Sent from my GT-P1000 using XDA App
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cool im still on the stock froyo build :/
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thanks, how much ROM memory does.it take up after install?
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It takes up about 60-61mb i think
Been testing this afternoon, with ffboy's 21908 clean 6.5 rom i have about 58mb free ram, if i disable start menu i can get upto about 84mb free ram, not bad, messaging for sms works ok it seems, shame weather doesn't seem to work, perhaps thats to do with a missing commmanager, not sure yet.
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It takes up about 60-61mb i think
Been testing this afternoon, with ffboy's 21908 clean 6.5 rom i have about 58mb free ram, if i disable start menu i can get upto about 84mb free ram, not bad, messaging for sms works ok it seems, shame weather doesn't seem to work, perhaps thats to do with a missing commmanager, not sure yet.
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weather works on 100% .. commanager isn't present for obtain free ram !
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It takes up about 60-61mb i think
Been testing this afternoon, with ffboy's 21908 clean 6.5 rom i have about 58mb free ram, if i disable start menu i can get upto about 84mb free ram, not bad, messaging for sms works ok it seems, shame weather doesn't seem to work, perhaps thats to do with a missing commmanager, not sure yet.
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wow! that seems like a nice amount. on ffboys 6.5 sense rom if i dusable startmenu, htc phone dialer + lockscreen, i can only get a maximum of 81mb at boot, with only 6 tabs enabled! the ram sounds very nice on this. any other bugs found?
This sense works SOO smooth and quick! I like it! A good option to not use a sense rom, but just a nice clean rom and then this on top! Left me ample of free space to use for my apps!
I have LOADS of apps installed on it, but I am using miROM4 (very stable and clean!) and I have 224MB worth of phone storage used up (out of 268MB) - and in terms of memory usage - 45MB still available after all my apps installed and this sense installed. I am looking forward to disabling start menu and will see how much difference it can make.
Does 45MB sound good guys? Especially after me having a lot of cabs installed already! My phone isn't freezing or hanging at all!
Following works perfect:
Flip Clock
Calender
Quicklinks
People tab
Messaging tab (with HTC)
Emails tab
Calender tab
Internet tab (adding bookmarks a bit slow, and can't see preview)
Photos tab
Stocks tab
Twitter tab
Audio tab
Settings tab
Following doesn't work:
Wireless controls don't work in settings
I need some free RAM I guess Any ideas how?
I tried to install Start menu replacement - and lost access to my storage card! I had to use hard reset, now I will update fresh free RAM with miROM4.
Results
Only 71MB free on a totally neat and clean miROM4!! Should I be disappointed? How come miROM cooks sense in his rom with other stuffs and gets away with 80+ free RAM!
drupad2drupad said:
This sense works SOO smooth and quick! I like it! A good option to not use a sense rom, but just a nice clean rom and then this on top! Left me ample of free space to use for my apps!
I have LOADS of apps installed on it, but I am using miROM4 (very stable and clean!) and I have 224MB worth of phone storage used up (out of 268MB) - and in terms of memory usage - 45MB still available after all my apps installed and this sense installed. I am looking forward to disabling start menu and will see how much difference it can make.
Does 45MB sound good guys? Especially after me having a lot of cabs installed already! My phone isn't freezing or hanging at all!
Following works perfect:
Flip Clock
Calender
Quicklinks
People tab
Messaging tab (with HTC)
Emails tab
Calender tab
Internet tab (adding bookmarks a bit slow, and can't see preview)
Photos tab
Stocks tab
Twitter tab
Audio tab
Settings tab
Following doesn't work:
Wireless controls don't work in settings
I need some free RAM I guess Any ideas how?
I tried to install Start menu replacement - and lost access to my storage card! I had to use hard reset, now I will update fresh free RAM with miROM4.
Results
Only 71MB free on a totally neat and clean miROM4!! Should I be disappointed? How come miROM cooks sense in his rom with other stuffs and gets away with 80+ free RAM!
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hi drupad2drupad!
i will be honest with you... 45mb is soo little to play with. before i began using start menu disabler, i used to get 45mb too, which sounded nice. but now with the startmenu dosable + manilla dialer, and lock screen, im used to seeing 70mb plus all the time! the lowest it will drop to is 60mb. on boot it has about 80mb. which would you rather have... less ram for more eye candy(windows startmenu) or 10mb extra ram for a standard startmenu. same with the manilla phone dialer, and lock screwn. think about the 30-40mb extra RAM you can save. it can run so many more programs. aand potentialy give better battery life? i advise that you back up your device before installing the replacement. if you don't get it right, you may not be able to a get to any menu at all and have yo hard reset. make sure you have sense running before you install the cab. i willpost you some links when i am back on my pc.. (on my tg atm) but do asearch on the forum. BTW may be oftopic but if you use these tweaks with spb shell you get 90mb + RAM!!!! i use spb shell with mobilesense themethough , so i get 80-70mb RAM. but use miros 'trick' to try and stop the memory leak problem.
cheers!
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hi drupad2drupad!
i will be honest with you... 45mb is soo little to play with. before i began using start menu disabler, i used to get 45mb too, which sounded nice. but now with the startmenu dosable + manilla dialer, and lock screen, im used to seeing 70mb plus all the time! the lowest it will drop to is 60mb. on boot it has about 80mb. which would you rather have... less ram for more eye candy(windows startmenu) or 10mb extra ram for a standard startmenu. same with the manilla phone dialer, and lock screwn. think about the 30-40mb extra RAM you can save. it can run so many more programs. aand potentialy give better battery life? i advise that you back up your device before installing the replacement. if you don't get it right, you may not be able to a get to any menu at all and have yo hard reset. make sure you have sense running before you install the cab. i willpost you some links when i am back on my pc.. (on my tg atm) but do asearch on the forum. BTW may be oftopic but if you use these tweaks with spb shell you get 90mb + RAM!!!! i use spb shell with mobilesense themethough , so i get 80-70mb RAM. but use miros 'trick' to try and stop the memory leak problem.
cheers!
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Thanks a lot for your input Oly!
Here is what happened last night:
I am using miROM4 - Retroclassic type 6.5.x clean.
I add throttle launcher and played around with this amazing WM7 theme by fireslave - very smooth and close integration too - but battery drain was massive! Lost my battery in less than 3 hours!
I started looking in the forum to see if I can find a solution, and stumbled across another WM7 theme that was just uploaded by headhunter. Amazing theme, tried it, battery drain issue same, but more integration, din't like the tiles look - so disable it.
Removed both themes and throttle launcher completely.
Installed SPB Shell and tried Doc&Mskips Android themes- as much as the eye candy they are, they help explore SPB to max! Loved it, no battery issues, no ram issues. But since I ended up being a little perfectionist, I hated those lags in loading icons - spoilt the look of tg01 and theme! Everytime I swipe to next page and icons take few microseconds to load! :s (that is THE only feature I HATE about SPB!)
So removed SPB and themes completely.
Then came across this Sense. Installed it, played around. Made that feedback. It ran smooth even with such low memory, but then while adding facebook pictures to contacts, it took absolute ages and froze too!
Another bug I discovered was - messaging. Although I said it works, it doesn't completely! I found that when I tried replying messages from HTC client, it kept saying 'Sim error, switch on the phone!' However, my phone obviously was switched on and the issue I guess is with 'Wireless/comm manager' as mentioned before.
Issue with disabling start menu and replacing it : I used the cabs to replace start menu, but I think the sd card cab in first post is somehow related to winmo start menu. As soon as I disabled my start menu on this sense, I lost access to my sd card!! I removed the cab after this and SD card access was back :s
So removed sense too! hard reset my phone 3 times to make sure I have nothing left on it.
Now I am using basic, very basic windows phone with over 140mb clean ram. No UIs installed. It has 6.5.x start menu at bottom, on the home page I have SMS indicator and date with black wallpaper. I know it sounds so boring, but works FAAAAst! I will be bored with it soon but I was so fed up with memory issues, sms issues, UI lag issues and freezes, battery drains!
I am using my tg01 for occasional browsing, calls, texts since 11pm last night and my battery remaining is 90% !!
drupad2drupad said:
Thanks a lot for your input Oly!
Here is what happened last night:
I am using miROM4 - Retroclassic type 6.5.x clean.
I add throttle launcher and played around with this amazing WM7 theme by fireslave - very smooth and close integration too - but battery drain was massive! Lost my battery in less than 3 hours!
I started looking in the forum to see if I can find a solution, and stumbled across another WM7 theme that was just uploaded by headhunter. Amazing theme, tried it, battery drain issue same, but more integration, din't like the tiles look - so disable it.
Removed both themes and throttle launcher completely.
Installed SPB Shell and tried Doc&Mskips Android themes- as much as the eye candy they are, they help explore SPB to max! Loved it, no battery issues, no ram issues. But since I ended up being a little perfectionist, I hated those lags in loading icons - spoilt the look of tg01 and theme! Everytime I swipe to next page and icons take few microseconds to load! :s (that is THE only feature I HATE about SPB!)
So removed SPB and themes completely.
Then came across this Sense. Installed it, played around. Made that feedback. It ran smooth even with such low memory, but then while adding facebook pictures to contacts, it took absolute ages and froze too!
Another bug I discovered was - messaging. Although I said it works, it doesn't completely! I found that when I tried replying messages from HTC client, it kept saying 'Sim error, switch on the phone!' However, my phone obviously was switched on and the issue I guess is with 'Wireless/comm manager' as mentioned before.
Issue with disabling start menu and replacing it : I used the cabs to replace start menu, but I think the sd card cab in first post is somehow related to winmo start menu. As soon as I disabled my start menu on this sense, I lost access to my sd card!! I removed the cab after this and SD card access was back :s
So removed sense too! hard reset my phone 3 times to make sure I have nothing left on it.
Now I am using basic, very basic windows phone with over 140mb clean ram. No UIs installed. It has 6.5.x start menu at bottom, on the home page I have SMS indicator and date with black wallpaper. I know it sounds so boring, but works FAAAAst! I will be bored with it soon but I was so fed up with memory issues, sms issues, UI lag issues and freezes, battery drains!
I am using my tg01 for occasional browsing, calls, texts since 11pm last night and my battery remaining is 90% !!
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wow! soundslike you spent ages trying to customize your phone! abt the issue with htc messaging client, i think it is something to do with the default htc messaging 1.5 not included in this compiled cab. i havent really tested it yet, so i really cant halo you there i our throttle launcher as well, but i agree; battery usage is too much(newer version rely on the 3d accelorator to run contantly, therefore sucking up your battery and RAM. i was going to try mskip's and doc3000 droid theme too, but didint get a chance! i recommend using mskips wp7 theme... it is beautiful! there isno lag, plenty of free RAM, and great battery life. i also dont experience the spb icon lag thing. i think it is based more around 6.5.5 builds. they are generally slower, and consume more resourcses which give you less RAM and speed. also how did you mangage to get 140mb of free RAM!!! i tried using plain windows mobile hone screen (not titanium) and with all startmenu etc disabled i only get 100mb + on a 6.5 rom...
anyway cheers hope this helps!
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wow! soundslike you spent ages trying to customize your phone! abt the issue with htc messaging client, i think it is something to do with the default htc messaging 1.5 not included in this compiled cab. i havent really tested it yet, so i really cant halo you there i our throttle launcher as well, but i agree; battery usage is too much(newer version rely on the 3d accelorator to run contantly, therefore sucking up your battery and RAM. i was going to try mskip's and doc3000 droid theme too, but didint get a chance! i recommend using mskips wp7 theme... it is beautiful! there isno lag, plenty of free RAM, and great battery life. i also dont experience the spb icon lag thing. i think it is based more around 6.5.5 builds. they are generally slower, and consume more resourcses which give you less RAM and speed. also how did you mangage to get 140mb of free RAM!!! i tried using plain windows mobile hone screen (not titanium) and with all startmenu etc disabled i only get 100mb + on a 6.5 rom...
anyway cheers hope this helps!
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Sorry melpycar, not hijacking your thread!
I have tried mskips wm7 on spb. To be honest I love all spb themes, but dont like spb lag! I will flash a 6.5 rom and see if it's solved! I think 140mb free ram at boot near to default on mirom4 approx 100mb :s
But after giving it some time it drops to about 90mb free (stays constant approx all the time)
I din't do anything special at all. If you disable startmenu on plain winmo home screen, how did you manage to access programs :S
Regarding this cab - I would love to see if pyro's htc messaging clients are included! I tried to replace current messaging client by pyro's one but it lead me to black screen. I was able to do it on sense roms, but not on this sense. Any chance to being able to cab it up? This cab is surely smoother than sense roms, but if these above mentioned issues are fixed, it will work a charm. I haven't tried using CHT, CHTE with this sense as I had exchange emails encyption on, but could someone please try and tell us if CHT works? and also RAM update after CHT please?
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Sorry melpycar, not hijacking your thread!
I have tried mskips wm7 on spb. To be honest I love all spb themes, but dont like spb lag! I will flash a 6.5 rom and see if it's solved! I think 140mb free ram at boot near to default on mirom4 approx 100mb :s
But after giving it some time it drops to about 90mb free (stays constant approx all the time)
I din't do anything special at all. If you disable startmenu on plain winmo home screen, how did you manage to access programs :S
Regarding this cab - I would love to see if pyro's htc messaging clients are included! I tried to replace current messaging client by pyro's one but it lead me to black screen. I was able to do it on sense roms, but not on this sense. Any chance to being able to cab it up? This cab is surely smoother than sense roms, but if these above mentioned issues are fixed, it will work a charm. I haven't tried using CHT, CHTE with this sense as I had exchange emails encyption on, but could someone please try and tell us if CHT works? and also RAM update after CHT please?
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this sense is really quick because it is one of the latest builds, 2019. im currently using build 2016. it is very quick but could be as quick as this! i havent hade any time to test, i will try to soon asap! a tip to save ram is get yourself MMTaskManager (somewhere on this forum) then after you finish acessing music and photo videos tab, kill the processes AudioManager.exe and AlbumSearcher.exe this can save you a total of whooping 15mb ram! i have been using this method for many months now, im deciding on creating a thread on how to save RAM on sense... i know so many tweaks!
i will see if i can try miros miROM4 and get that RAM! Yeh disabling the starymenu with standard today srreen will not let u acess your apps, but you can install QuickMenu or MMAppLauncher.
cheers!
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this sense is really quick because it is one of the latest builds, 2019. im currently using build 2016. it is very quick but could be as quick as this! i havent hade any time to test, i will try to soon asap! a tip to save ram is get yourself MMTaskManager (somewhere on this forum) then after you finish acessing music and photo videos tab, kill the processes AudioManager.exe and AlbumSearcher.exe this can save you a total of whooping 15mb ram! i have been using this method for many months now, im deciding on creating a thread on how to save RAM on sense... i know so many tweaks!
i will see if i can try miros miROM4 and get that RAM! Yeh disabling the starymenu with standard today srreen will not let u acess your apps, but you can install QuickMenu or MMAppLauncher.
cheers!
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hello olyloh6696, thank you to point me to MMTaskManager. In forum i can´t find a cab. can you the upload, please.
info of this sense 2019:
Thanks to jmart518 for this cab and melpycar for sharing.
After install and after audio-fix, Musictab works fine.
Album don´t work. No Home Background change, no Contact Photos
(Contact/Homebackround/Pic- Fix, one bug= fonts in menu to big)
Locating- Settings in Settings not works.
weather works only with manual editing, not over Locating (over wifi)
No phone dailing from Favorite Contacts (Manila Dailer-fix)
i will make and upload the necessary fixes