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Ok, I really have read existing threads related to similar problems, but I am completely stuck on the boot screen (not bootloader screen) with my Tilt.
I flashed Dutty's 6.1 ROM last week and all had been working fine until last night. The phone was stuck with screen lock (screen nor buttons would respond). So, I performed soft reset and it just stopped at 'smart mobility' boot screen. I then performed hard reset, and again it just stopped and hung at 'smart mobility' screen.
This morning I got into the bootloader screen (power + camera + reset) and flashed original ROM (well, new officiall AT&T ROM released last month). Original ROM flashed successfully, but it now hangs on AT&T boot screen. I have tried hardspl, and flashing multiple ROMs, which all complete successfully, but it always hangs at the boot screen.
Thoughts?
what radio are u using?
Well, with Dutty's I was using 1.64.08.21 that came with the ROM... When I flashed to the stock AT&T ROM, I used the radio included with it as well (1.27.14.09).
tmac said:
Well, with Dutty's I was using 1.64.08.21 that came with the ROM... When I flashed to the stock AT&T ROM, I used the radio included with it as well (1.27.14.09).
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Dutty's didn't come with a radio.
Well, I was using 1.64.08.21.. Right now, I have the stock ROM flashed with 1.27.14.09
I have a similar problem. I flashed alex rom yesturday then I flashed back to OEM to test something then today I flashed back to alex cube rom and it said flash was successful but when I did a hard reset during the "Tap screen to begin" my phone go stuck in the AT&T inital logo. I tried connecting to USB to reflash but USB won't detect the phone. I have hard reset, removed battery, and no avail. Does this mean I bricked my phone?
To clarify, I have been doing these for some time and also had and 8125 previously, so I understand the flashing process. I also understand that there are only certain radios that work with WM 6.1 and 6.0. This doesn't appear to be a radio incompatibility issue. As I mentioned, I was using Dutty's 6.1 ROM just fine for several days before this happened. I had been using Sleuth's 6.1 prior to that.
Tim
You always should re-flash the radio AFTER flashing the ROM. Pt yuor device into boot loader (hold camera, power & reset button). Reflash the Radio. If that doesn't work PM me & I'll walk you thru looking for bad memory blocks.
hchavarria said:
I have a similar problem. I flashed alex rom yesturday then I flashed back to OEM to test something then today I flashed back to alex cube rom and it said flash was successful but when I did a hard reset during the "Tap screen to begin" my phone go stuck in the AT&T inital logo. I tried connecting to USB to reflash but USB won't detect the phone. I have hard reset, removed battery, and no avail. Does this mean I bricked my phone?
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NO, it does not mean brick. It means you may want to try another USB port, check the activesync connection settings, & possibly reflash using the SD card.
Edit: After looking at your MTTY feedback, & confering with a few of the Gods, I have to unfortunately tell you that your NAND chip appears to be damaged beyond flushing. The blocks can't even be erased, & that's the problem. When you reflash the blocks have previous ROM data still stored & because of the NAND damage they cannot be overwritten. Return under MFG warranty is all you can do. (Believe me, I really hate saying this & even got confirmation from Pof & Jocky) Sorry Guy.
My 30-day return policy date is tomorrow so I went to the AT&T store today and they swapped it out with a new device. They mentioned next time I have to ship it.
Could this have happened because of to much flashing? Or was this possibly an already existing defect?
I got a new one shipped to my overnight. There was obviously something wrong with it, as I tried everything under the sun. Flashed new ROM, then flashed new radio, flashed original ROM, etc. Everything gets stuck on the boot screen. At one point yesterday, I left it at the boot screen for a couple hours and it finally booted up, but then locked up again once it did. Then next time I reset, it got stuck on the boot screen again.
Please tell me you installed hardspl first?
Soft Reset Looping - Dead Kaiser
Hi all,
I have been flashing/testing many roms for a number of years now. I particularly enjoyed Jasjamming in my Tytn I days. Now...
Great work seen by many developers.
When I first got my Kaiser, i tried HardSPL, and had "white screen" issue, I then followed instructions on "white screen" thread....copied cab to kaiser....ran cab from kaiser..........eventually was able to flash to a new/ different ROM
However, I recently flashed my Kaiser and after using it for 6-7 hours after flash, it soft reset itself. It continued to keep soft reseting itself without geting to boot screen. It kept reading "smart mobility" and it would reset, vibrate, reset, vibrate, reset.......
I tried EVERYTHING - remove battery, flash back to original ROM, change radio (bootloader worked in safe mode - holding down camera button), but to no avail.
I then tried MTTY, and no go with this too. I eventually had to give my phone back in to HTC.
The question I ask is what is the cause of this? Is it excessive flashing? Is is HardSPL? Any comments/ suggestions would be welcomed...
Many thanks
P1Tater said:
Please tell me you installed hardspl first?
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If you are asking me that question, the answer is yes I did run hardspl. As I mentioned, I have been doing this for long enough that I know what I am doing. I also mentioned that I was successfully running Sleuth's 6.1 for a month or two before switching to Dutty's new 6.1. I was only running Dutty's for a few days before all of this happened.
There is definitely something wrong.. if I let it sit long enough, it will eventually boot. It will work for a few minutes, and then lock up again. Once I reset, it sits on the boot screen for a couple hours again. I have flashed several different ROMs and Radios to get different results, but the results are always the same.. It hangs at the boot screen.
I guess you have also tried going to the tri-color screen and re-flashing as well as a HR or MTTY command
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If you are asking me that question, the answer is yes I did run hardspl. As I mentioned, I have been doing this for long enough that I know what I am doing. I also mentioned that I was successfully running Sleuth's 6.1 for a month or two before switching to Dutty's new 6.1. I was only running Dutty's for a few days before all of this happened.
There is definitely something wrong.. if I let it sit long enough, it will eventually boot. It will work for a few minutes, and then lock up again. Once I reset, it sits on the boot screen for a couple hours again. I have flashed several different ROMs and Radios to get different results, but the results are always the same.. It hangs at the boot screen.
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Please don't take offence to my probing, as my questions weren't directly directed to you. All I am saying is that we need to understand what is the actual cause of this problem, or we all will be "flashing in the dark", and fearing that this problem could be imminent every time we flash in the future.
Many thanks.
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I guess you have also tried going to the tri-color screen and re-flashing as well as a HR or MTTY command
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P1 - Since I can't get the phone to boot completely (well, except for waiting several hours), the only way that I have been flashing different ROMs is from the tri-color screen. Regardless of what ROM or Radio I try, it still just hangs at the boot screen. The only thing I haven't tried was MTTY.
AvinashDhaniraj said:
Please don't take offence to my probing, as my questions weren't directly directed to you. All I am saying is that we need to understand what is the actual cause of this problem, or we all will be "flashing in the dark", and fearing that this problem could be imminent every time we flash in the future.
Many thanks.
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I was actually replying to P1, hence the reason I quoted him. So, I don't take offense to anything you said.
Well, I hope your not getting offended to my questions? I am just trying to cover all of the simple fixes first since those have been the majority of the things that fix "Most" people's issues. I suggest getting in touch with GSLeon3. He has a pretty good handle on what goes on in flashing and all of the fixes.
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Well, I hope your not getting offended to my questions? I am just trying to cover all of the simple fixes first since those have been the majority of the things that fix "Most" people's issues. I suggest getting in touch with GSLeon3. He has a pretty good handle on what goes on in flashing and all of the fixes.
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Not offended at all... I am appreciative of the suggestions.
Was installing duttys rom when my anti-virus program started. Update failed and since then all I see is the tri-colour screen. Sometimes I can get the rom updater to recognise my TyTNII but it will not continue to upgrade. Any suggestions. Have tried mtty1.42 but it doesn't seem to have a usb port option, have tried hard reset etc with no luck. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
An update, I have tried several rom updates since, most get to the stage where the progress bar is shown and the stop. The HTC update to revert to shipped rom gets to 1% and then tells me that this rom is not suitable for my pda!
How about some more information...
What is your Tytn II - Tilt or HTC?
What Rom was on it before you tried upgrading?
What Radio was on it before you tried upgrading?
What version of Duttys did you try to flash?
Did you upgrade to HardSPL before you tried flashing?
This should enable someone to begin trying to unbrick your phone.
Also DO NOT USE MTTY unless you know what you are doing - it can seriously kill your Tytn if used incorrectly. Wait for GSLEON3 to swing by before trying this - but he's very busy at the moment helping others unbrick their toys so you may have to wait for a while.
If you had an original rom/radio from AT&T or HTC it shouldn't hurt trying to download an original rom and try to flash - preferably using your SD card.
Also, while you're waiting for someone to help, have a good read through the Kaiser Wiki (in my signature) before trying anything else.
what are the steps that u take? let us know if u are missing any
HTC TyTN 11, Was using Q-mobile 1.2 but couldn't install tom tom navigator 6, don't know what radio it was using because i hadn't got that far. Was trying to flash Dutty's 6.1 and I had run jumpspl from device because I got the white screen when I treid to run 1.93 so installed 1.56 to pda and ran it. this worked to insatll Q-mobile this morning.
Hope this helps!
what are the steps that u take? let us know if u are missing any
Try to reset pda keep getting tri-colour, attach usb and usb shows at base of screen. When i try to install rom The problem in my second post occurs. I cannot hard reset device to anything other than the tri-colour
Thanks for your help, I tried one of the roms indicated and it worked! I have spent so much time reading various wikis and downloading files. I'm not entirely sure why it worked this time but I'm not about to ask questions! Thanks again!
OK, now you've got your phone working again, make sure that you get HardSPL installed before you try anymore flashing.
ok i was installing KAIS_Radinly_0.26.07.06_CustomRUU and it froze at 96% and now my phone is bricked!! every time i restart the phone its stuck at the RED GREEN BLUE and WHITE screen.. i tried using mtty but then im not trying to mess my phone up any more. i dont understand how to fix it.. if i download a new ROM and put it on my SD card then how do i read it with my phone? sorry guys, im a noob at this as you can tell..
nm guys. i just ran the new rom and it worked! haha sorry for posting too quick!
okay i have one problem after fixing it. i downloaded the TEST rom for the ATT tilt and now every time i reboot my phone it says 'TEST ONLY. NOT FOR SALE.' how do i get rid of this? when i installed a new rom it still says this and i even tried hard resetting my phone but it did not reset anything to factory settings. it just reloaded the rom that i last had!
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okay i have one problem after fixing it. i downloaded the TEST rom for the ATT tilt and now every time i reboot my phone it says 'TEST ONLY. NOT FOR SALE.' how do i get rid of this? when i installed a new rom it still says this and i even tried hard resetting my phone but it did not reset anything to factory settings. it just reloaded the rom that i last had!
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserFAQ
your answer is in there
I've been flashing new ROMS on an 8525 for a couple of years now, but I'm new to the 8925.
I've been reading a lot, I think I understand the relation between SPL and the ROMs now, but I'm still puzzled.
I keep getting a lot of cruft left behind from prior ROMs and don't know how to get rid of it. for example about three ROMs ago, I flashed the "Mobile Vista" from ansar. Now I still get his Today theme, and there are still a lot of apps installed that read "ansar..."
I've tried removing the battery before flashing, making sure the SPL version is OK with the ROM doing hard resets - nothing seems to let this device start from a "clean slate".
I'm trying to find a ROM I can be happy with, which is why I'm trying so many, but I can't fairly evaluate aon one ROM if I don't know what I've really got installed.
TIA
Walt
I've never heard of anything like that happening Are you sure it is the today theme, or just the boot splash? That would be most likely.
As far as the programs, maybe most of them are from ansar? Which ROM are you using right now?
I just flashed the PDA Corner latest version (15) and it seems to be behaving now. Prior ROMS I tried this morning included Athine, Garmin and Phoenix.
Prior to flashing PDA Corner, I did an "Erase memory" (hard reset from software) and removed the battery for about 10 minutes. Maybe that's what did it. I agree, I've never seen anything like this before, I always thought that flashing the ROM reased everything, but then I started reading about SPL on the Kaiser somehow being more than just a bootloader so I got concerned.
And yes, it was the Today screen including clock, wallpaper, etc. The splash screen on bootup actually did change to the one corresponding to the new ROM.
Thanks.
Walt
When flashing a new ROM, when you get to the "Tap screen to begin" do you perform a Hard Reset?
If not, I suggest you start doing now.
Also, merschle (ex-moderator and Artemis cook) recommended flashing a ROM twice with a Hard Reset in between. I don't do this, but it just might help
Ta
Dave
Flash a stock HTC rom and then try a modified rom again. It always helped me when i got strange flash problems.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
Billun said:
Flash a stock HTC rom and then try a modified rom again. It always helped me when i got strange flash problems.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
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I hard reset three times then I flash an OEM ROM, then I hard reset three more times to be sure. I know it's anal, but it works for me.
I don't know how you're flashing try the SD Card method.
It's safer and more reliable.
The SPL & Rom have closer relationship than on your older device.
A sign of have the wrong SPL or needing to change to another SPL is freezing. If you notice your device is freezing or non-responsive, flash the recommended SPL by the chef.
Don't worry any, I was the same when I upgraded from the Wizard...gotta learn all over again.
Hi, ive flashed a few handsets before (wallaby x2, alpine and a wizard) and had no problems but for some reason cannot even get off the first hurdle with my t-mobile vario iv and cant even unlock the dam thing to flash a custom rom! ive looked at post after post and downloaded so many programs like hard spl and nothing works. the programs ether wont even open or they fail half way through the process but havent bricked my phone so far (fingers and toes crossed!) please could someone help me with what unlocking software i need, what radio rom and main rom i should be using. Really i would like to try a standard wm6.5 rom and then try custom roms after but like what nrg have done if stock is not avaliable. its model is RAPH300 part no- 99HFP013-00
my current rom version is 1.69.110.8 WWE
my current radio version is 1.02.25.19
protocol version 52.33.25.17U
my email is [email protected] if you prefer to help via email
thanks in advance everyone, steve.
Anyone out there?
Ensure you have hard SPL'd your handset before trying to flash ANY custom roms
before you do that, see if there is an updated T-Mobile rom, see if that update will work, if that update works without any glitches then it'll be alright, if you get an error with an official update then possibly something wrong with either your pc setup or the handset
if your using vista, make sure you've got the windows mobile device centre installed, if not, you need to go to microsoft and download it
if using windows xp, make sure you've got the latest activesync installed.
ensure the cable your using is not faulty by trying it with a different cable
and good luck!
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Ensure you have hard SPL'd your handset before trying to flash ANY custom roms
before you do that, see if there is an updated T-Mobile rom, see if that update will work, if that update works without any glitches then it'll be alright, if you get an error with an official update then possibly something wrong with either your pc setup or the handset
if your using vista, make sure you've got the windows mobile device centre installed, if not, you need to go to microsoft and download it
if using windows xp, make sure you've got the latest activesync installed.
ensure the cable your using is not faulty by trying it with a different cable
and good luck!
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thanks for trying to help, have you ever read something over and over and repeatedly missed something in it? i think thats what i did wrong. i did not see the bit about removing my sim card even though i had read the noobs guide again and again. removed my sim and bosh, spl worked! then everything else was a breeze and i am now running the energy 3.0 wm6.5 rom! havent flashed the radio yet but will probably do that today. the energy rom is a vast improvement on my stock 6.1 rom in many areas and seems to have improved camera performance quite a lot (not quality) and the menus are going to be great once i have got used to the totally different interface. does anyone have any sugestions on other roms tha may be better than this one?
Hi there
Glad to hear you got it working!
I am personally using NATF's WM6.1 lite touch pro rom as all i look for in a rom is stability as i actually use my phone for phone/text purposes and there is nothing more annoying than a hanging phone when your trying to quickly reply to a text message!
Hi everybody.
I have, installed on my Htc touch cruise, the Kostas wm6.5 Rom.
Everything seems to work wonderful, but I have a problem.
Sometimes wm6.5 blocks everything and I have to make a soft reset.
After that, wm6.5 doesn't restart for a few seconds.
Subsequently my Polaris makes a Hard Reset by itself, without any kind of request or intervention.
Someone can help me?
Thank you very much!!
its a bug in some of the builds. please talk about this in your ROM thread
This is what happend to me! exactly with this kernel and after some time I even couldn't turn on this device, it'was like a dead no screen. After 5h without battery it again started but after that again freeze, so now I installed original http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=59&cat=2&dl_id=113
But it restart themself during loading, so now I am solving what to do probably I will try install ROM from SD card. But this is 2 issue, I don't know if there is som corelation between them, but first is that phone seems like that and need rest for start, now it I am nearly sure that it's HW problem and 2nd is bad OS.
But anyway I am trying to ask if you have similar experience, because my case start exactly same as yours, but now ends in real hell
EDIT: I definitelly had Kostas too, but I think that WM6.1
EDIT2: Can you send your S/N number, it's weird beacause friend which sold me this phone told me that phone was working 1y absolutelly OK and now around same date as you happend something similar, that's weird, or you have new phone?
Thanks anyway!
I flashed the original ROM and than Kostas' ROM. Now everything is ok!
I'm sorry I can't help you.
Bye
what you mean under original? I am pretty confused from so many versions now, can you give me link?
Have you used the correct radio?
I've installed an Italian Rom wm6.5 and I've had to install Radio 1.59 before install the ROM, then it's better to install an original ROM like this:
RUU_Polaris_HKCSL_WWE_3.19.831.3_radio_sign_25.85. 30.07_1.59.42.15_Ship
Daniele
From Kostas Rom Page:
Radio not included.You must use any 1.59.xx.xx version.(1.59.46.12 is the latest and recomended.)
general guidelines;
certain application is not working (particularly camera) -> change your radio
system unstable, random freezes -> hard reset
hard reset cannot solve the problem -> flash stock rom, then reflash custom rom, then hard reset.