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I just noticed that the today items messaging and device lock disappeared from my today screen on my Atom. I would like to get them back. anybody know how? The don't show up in start>setting>today>items however, they are visible in the registery (and enabled) and visible with memmaid.
Please let me know if there is an other solution than to hrad reset my device.
Thanks in advance
there are limits of how many today items you can have
forgot how many
but the today item list is limited to 13
if you remove some in the reg the ones you are missing will show up
in today items
Hi Rul,
The other thing to check in your registry is the value of the Reg_DWord called "Order" for each of your plug-ins. Occassionally my plugins will play hide and seek if I've installed a new one and its default order number clashes with any of the other plugins. They do however still show up in the today settings. I'll post my reg settings so you can check yours are ok and then double chekc that the dll's for each are where they are supposed to be.
Good luck - Mallow1
Oops, forgot to mention that for me I have the Device Lock disabled anyway (so just ref to the other reg settings) as I have it in the sys tray instread to save Today Screen space, thanks to an excellent cab writen by armstrom http://buzzdev.net/component/option,com_simpleboard/Itemid,59/func,view/catid,27/id,17285/#17285 which uses the underlying Device Lock but via an exe which you can then assign to the sys tray using any of the tray launcher programs out there.
Regards - Mallow1
PS I swapped the icon out to be the same as Device Lock (armstrom's exe uses a different one if you happen to go down this route).
Thanks for you reply's.
With the messaging and device lock items I have 13 today items. (now 11 since these two don't show up anymore).
I have checked the Reg_DWord called "Order" and there are no clashes...
Any other solution?
Thanks for the device lock thingy in the sys tray, very useful.
What have you done differently since the last time you could see your missing items? Loaded anything else? Reflashed etc? It may help us track down what has gone wrong if Rudegar's suggestion didn't work and you have no clashes when you checked my suggestion.
Of all your 13 items do you run/ wish to run all of them or are some disabled (and unlikely to be used again). If some are redundnat, did you try Rudegar's suggestion of removing them from the registry?
On a side note, and without wishing to get side tracked or complicate your issue have you tried "MoreTodays" to see if that helps at all if all your 13 items are "must haves" but you are only seeing 11. It allows you to have multiple Today Screens each showing different plug ins. Depending upon how it works it may allow for >11 (or >=13) whatever the formal limit is, plugins to operate. See http://www.jgui.net/moretodays/index.html
Regards - Mallow1
Some of the today Items are disabled, in fact 5 of the 13. So I deleted a couple of them. Still not showing ion my todayscreen.
Well, as far as I know I have installed some programs, don't know exactly which I have installed, so that's not really helping.
I tried the program you've suggested and I can select messaging and device lock. But they still don't show up on my todayscreen.
I think I will have to learn to live with it, which is not that hard though, or I will have to hard reset my device.
Thanks for your help and suggestions.
After you deleted some from your registry did you try a simple soft reset (rather than having to resort to the horror of a hard one)?
yep, did that after every change I've made. No results though.
Sounds basic but have you checked that the dll files concerned are still present. If they are present it may be that a path is wrong in the registry (try adding an explicit path/double checking path matches location), else we can resort to simply replacing them just in case they have been corrupted.
On that last point did you try the Device Lock exe I highlighted. If that works it means that the underlying device lock dll works too (as the exe uses it rather than emulates it) and it is therefore a Today Screen issue we are facing not a corrupted dll.
Now that you removed your unwanted dll refs from the registry, how many Today Items are there left there? I have at the back of my mind that there is also an upper limit to the number of resources WM can handle at any one time (think I recall this causing problems with Wisbar not being able to skin a few things simply because too much was already loaded and the required dll file scould therfore not be used).... but we can save broadening the issues until we've eliminated the simpler more direct ones.
Regards - Mallow1
PS FYI I have 9 Today items in my registry and 7 that are enabled. If you delete your unused 5 items out of 13 that would at least bring you down to within the same range loaded in my registry and we could eliminate the "number in registry" from the list of possible issues.
Ooh, another quick one to try (I use it when I have items checked in the Today settings that have failled to show in the Today Screen), is try running this little app which simply refreshesd the Today Screen. See if your missing items appear afterwards.
Regards - Mallow1
Mallow1 said:
Oops, forgot to mention that for me I have the Device Lock disabled anyway (so just ref to the other reg settings) as I have it in the sys tray instread to save Today Screen space, thanks to an excellent cab writen by armstrom http://buzzdev.net/component/option,com_simpleboard/Itemid,59/func,view/catid,27/id,17285/#17285 which uses the underlying Device Lock but via an exe which you can then assign to the sys tray using any of the tray launcher programs out there.
Regards - Mallow1
PS I swapped the icon out to be the same as Device Lock (armstrom's exe uses a different one if you happen to go down this route).
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Hi, i love your today screen! Tidy but functional! Could you please tell me what apps/plugins etc you've got going on there?
Hi fuel925,
Thanks. There's something like 30-40 packages making up the entire screen and functionality. Rather than clutter this thread with an off topic reply I'll see what I can knock up and post in a separate thread to give you an insight and post a link here afterwards.
Regards - Mallow1
Hi fuel925,
Just follow the link...http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46855&highlight=forgot+mention
Regards - Mallow1
Hi. Mallow1
I've tried everything, nothing is working. I rest my case. Thanks for your help anyway.
regards,
Rul
Hi Rul,
Sorry to hear that. I've heard that theAtom has had a chequered start. Sounds like hard reset time (and I did hear somewhere that since so many of the early Atoms were having problems that an updated ROM had been relased quite quickly post launch). If yours was an early one you may find searching or checking for the updated ROm and reflashing helps (I want to say I think I saw this with respect to Aussie Atoms but can't swerar to it).
Anyway. Good luck - Mallow1
When I got my Atom I imediately put the "leaked" ROM on it. So it is not the case of an old ROM or something.
I just noticed that it is not showing the smartdailing plugin from the Treo 700w I just installed on it. So I guess there is something seriously wrong with the today plugins.
Regards, Rul
ah ha amen!
I've searched for months for an answer to removing the system tray on WM5 & WM6
Edit your registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/ Software/ HTC/ Trayapplt
Export the Trayapplt string just to be safe you can merge it back if you change your mind.
Once exported delete the Trayapplt string completely and then soft reset your device.
System tray gone and the space is usable
Enjoy
You could have just removed the Init_Tray.lnk in the windows startup folder.
I afraid for most people that doesnt work as they dont even have that link file. I think the difficulty with the system tray is that different people have different circumstances. Some people can remove the int_tray link but If you search the web your'll see a lot of people desperate for a alternative method as they do not have this file on their devices.
It maybe the case that my method may not work for everybody but until someone produces a stable app to remove the system tray we'll keep searching for the best way individually to achieve this.
Sorry, didn't realize that that link didn't exist on all WM devices, but I haven't owned every device to know that. There are however programs that force the system tray such as DotFreds task manager and MyMobiler, etc, which even removing the Init_Tray.lnk doesn't fix because the icons will create their own system tray. Does your fix for it stop them from doing that? If it does, then I might just have to try your fix out for myself.
So far ive been running this setup for 2 days.
I use xcpuscaler which 110% uses a system tray icon whilst running. Ive also minimised many programs and the tray has never reappeared. Im not garenteeing this will work but I do know that its worked perfectly for me.
I hope this helps and if you export the reg as I sugested if the tray doesnt stay hidden for you for some reason then you can always merge it back
Hmm, my kaiser doesn't even have that key so I guess I'm out of luck there. I'm not sure if my wizard does or not, I'm working on cooking a new ROM for it and the ROM I have on it now is kind of messed up. I'll have to check it out when I get my new one cooked though.
fair enough, it seems to be very device related, im talking intensively to a strong programmer to try and sort out something permemantely.
Im running a XDA Orbit (Artemis).
Willl post any findings here
sorry it didnt work for you
Darren_Bridgeland said:
ah ha amen!
I've searched for months for an answer to removing the system tray on WM5 & WM6
Edit your registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/ Software/ HTC/ Trayapplt
Export the Trayapplt string just to be safe you can merge it back if you change your mind.
Once exported delete the Trayapplt string completely and then soft reset your device.
System tray gone and the space is usable
Enjoy
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that did the trick for me - thanks
Thanks, just joined today and i am now very happy with the fact this hack worked for me
Joined the forum chasing icons and now i think i wont be able to ever leave
Thanks again.....
No TrayApplt in my registry, unfortunately. Still can't figure out how to remove the tray bar on my Vario II (WM5) permanently. Whatever I tried, nothing worked to my satisfaction..
Edit: No Init_Tray.lnk either! Still looking for solutions, every solution is very welcome as long as it works...
Disable system tray for everything
xeno1 said:
Hmm, my kaiser doesn't even have that key so I guess I'm out of luck there. I'm not sure if my wizard does or not, I'm working on cooking a new ROM for it and the ROM I have on it now is kind of messed up. I'll have to check it out when I get my new one cooked though.
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My Tilt doesn't have that key either. I don't use the tray, have it disabled, but Task Manager always creates it again, until I exit Task Manager.
My Wizard doesn't have that key either.
Programs I have found so far that may cause the system tray to appear:
- Dotfred's Task Manager
- My Mobiler
- Pocket Informer
- SOTI's Pocket PC Controller (or similar: I don't recall its name)
- SPB Pocket Plus
All of these can be made to not create a system tray through their respective settings or otherwise, I believe. Currently I have MyMobiler, Dotfred's, Pocket Informer and Pocket Plus installed, and I have no system tray on my Kaiser. The above registry hack didn't work for me.
With all the files everybody has produced on this website, I'm able to get very close to my wifes phone, but not exact I have a g4 wizard. She has an elf, it's so cool, but no keyboard, hah hah. Anyway, I'd like to build a custom rom(I will read and learn all about that when I'm ready), but I need to be sure that I can get certain features to work correctly before I start rom building. I'm currently using the wizard_19855_Clean_V1 rom and it's great, stable everything works. What I'm doing:
1. Install as many of the htc apps as possible(I can't get some to work)(ie htc task manager) (I can handle this)
2. I want the htc cube to work oem. no ftouchflo, no sclpc++(f)(need help here)
3. Strip the OS of unused files to boost performance(need help here)
4. Build a new rom(I'll figure this out when I'm ready)
2. I need help with the "oem"(I think oem) cube I attached htc_touchflo.zip so everyone can see what I'm working with. Most of the files do not exist on my wizard with 19855. What I've found is that the cube will work(somewhat) with these files(- (minus) touch.dll). I've left the touch.dll that came with 19855 alone and it was bigger in size so it must do more...right? lol The first time the cube loads(by clicking on biotouch shortcut, not sure if that's right, I could preload it in startup, but...) it pulls up the contacts page and displays it correctly(but nothing works), from there I can rotate the cube with finger gestures horizontally, it's a little slow but it works 195 MHz baby, yeah. The aplauncher and mediahub are there, very minimal just blank black place holders. Okay, so a finger gesture down will "minimize" the cube, but it doesn't refresh the screen back to what was there previously. I think it will pull up again with a finger gesture(can't remember but clicking one of the shortcuts will definately bring it back), but it doesn't display correctly until you rotate horizontally. What I'm looking for: I'm wondering if there is someone willing to work with me to get the oem cube working. Probably need support for .dll files ie(touch) and then the registry, I'm fine editing the registry, but I don't know what the default settings are or should be. I've tried a couple of the cube settings apps out there and none seem to work in this scenario.
3. A link similar to slimming down windows xp: the complete guide(cool article), but for windows mobile 5-6.1. What can we pull out of this bloated os without causing issues to stability? Like pictures unused .dll files etc.
Or look at it like what really needs to be there? From there I will build my rom...Thanks in advance to anyone willing to partake.
Anyone willing to help?
In Addition
when the cube is up, the aplauncher and mediahub buttons do work, but there not mapped to anything, so it says to reinstall the application. Where is this thing pulling(looking for) this information? registry?
I think I titled my post correctly
Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree? Has this been done before? I wasn't able to find a working oem version of the cube for the wizard and I wasn't satisfied by ftouchflo and the different cube clones out there. No offense is intended, I think they are great alternatives, but I'd like to figure out the oem version. If no one is interested, that's fine, I just thought that someone else would like to see this available because I did. If anyone is available to provide guidance to me that would be gladly accepted as well. Or show me some links as to why this is not possible, that would be great so I'm not wasting my time if someone has already tried to do what I'm doing. Any replies gladly accepted, maybe it will get a conversation going, communcation can drive things as well. Thanks
Trying Attachments again...
Trying to get the attachments posted
man the touchflo dont download wotsup with dat
I tested downloading it, I had to be logged in to do so though. In the download there is a folder called cube, I put this on my start menu so I can interact with the cube when I don't know where it's at.
I think if someone could point me to or post the default registry settings for the touch, heh duh, I'll ask my wife if I can look at hers...Should be simple enough. I have an idea from a couple of posts over in the elf forum, I think her is a vogue though not sure what the difference is. Any one know? Is it just the provider model like 8125 compared to tmobile mda?
I'm trying to get each of the cube applications to open independently via a shortcut menu similar to the programs folder. Right now I have the media hub mini working, so I will copy the settings for this application to a new .reg file.
Oh, my wife's touch's files copied everything registry and files and put them on my wizard with no luck, but the registry may contain some interesting info. But all the apps are a different version though.
80%
Similar to other post, I can't get the quickdial to work correctly. With the settings below, I can open, close, and spin the cube. The aplauncher & the media hub work. The quickdial does not, seems to open, but does not display. I can see the process running, but nothing. If your interested, here are the registry settings to get this to work:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch]
"MediaHubMini"="06042007 V2.5 Final"
"BioTouch Ver"="05102007 V2.0"
"APLauncher"="05212007 V2.3 Final Release"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\APLauncher]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\APLauncher\App1_1]
"Type"=dword:00000000
"Name"="Email"
"Path"="\\Windows\\tmail.exe"
"Param"="-service \\"
"IconPath"="\\Windows\\AL_01.png"
"IconPressPath"="\\Windows\\AL_01_HL.png"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\APLauncher\App1_2]
"Type"=dword:00000000
"Name"="Internet Explorer"
"Path"="\\Windows\\iexplore.exe"
"Param"="NULL"
"IconPath"="\\Windows\\AL_02.png"
"IconPressPath"="\\Windows\\AL_02_HL.png"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\APLauncher\App1_3]
"Type"=dword:00000000
"Name"="Comm Manager"
"Path"="\\Windows\\CommManager.exe"
"Param"="NULL"
"IconPath"="\\Windows\\AL_03.png"
"IconPressPath"="\\Windows\\AL_03_HL.png"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\APLauncher\App2_1]
"Type"=dword:00000000
"Name"="SMS/MMS"
"Path"="\\Windows\\tmail.exe"
"Param"="-service \\"
"IconPath"="\\Windows\\AL_04.png"
"IconPressPath"="\\Windows\\AL_04_HL.png"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\APLauncher\App2_2]
"Name"="Tasks"
"Type"=dword:00000000
"Path"="\\Windows\\tasks.exe"
"Param"="NULL"
"IconPath"="\\Windows\\AL_05.png"
"IconPressPath"="\\Windows\\AL_05_HL.png"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\APLauncher\App2_3]
"Name"="Calender"
"Type"=dword:00000000
"Path"="\\Windows\\poutlook.exe"
"Param"="calendar"
"IconPath"="\\Windows\\AL_06.png"
"IconPressPath"="\\Windows\\AL_06_HL.png"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\MediaHubMini]
"APNameFontSize"=dword:00000018
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\MediaHubMini\App1_3]
"Param"="-mode:camera -type:video"
"IconPlayingPressPath"="\\Windows\\MH_2_03_HL.brn"
"IconPlayingPath"="\\Windows\\MH_2_03.brn"
"IconPressPath"="\\Windows\\MH_03_HL.brn"
"IconPath"="\\Windows\\MH_03.brn"
"Name"="Videos"
"Path"="\\Windows\\HTCAlbum.exe"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\MediaHubMini\App1_2]
"Param"="-mode:camera -type:image"
"IconPlayingPressPath"="\\Windows\\MH_2_02_HL.brn"
"IconPlayingPath"="\\Windows\\MH_2_02.brn"
"IconPressPath"="\\Windows\\MH_02_HL.brn"
"IconPath"="\\Windows\\MH_02.brn"
"Name"="Pictures"
"Path"="\\Windows\\HTCAlbum.exe"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\MediaHubMini\App1_1]
"IconPlayingPressPath"="\\Windows\\MH_2_01_HL.brn"
"IconPlayingPath"="\\Windows\\MH_2_01.brn"
"IconPressPath"="\\Windows\\MH_01_HL.brn"
"IconPath"="\\Windows\\MH_01.brn"
"Param"="NULL"
"Path"="\\Windows\\AudioManager.exe"
"Name"="Music"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\MediaHubMini\MediaType]
"SettingsType"=dword:00000000
"Type"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\Biotouch]
"Mode"=dword:00000002
"Path18"="\\Windows\\C02.brn"
"Path17"="\\Windows\\C01.brn"
"Path16"="\\Windows\\B02.brn"
"Path15"="\\Windows\\B01.brn"
"Path14"="\\Windows\\A02.brn"
"Path13"="\\Windows\\A01.brn"
"Path12"="\\Windows\\C5.brn"
"Path11"="\\Windows\\C3.brn"
"Path10"="\\Windows\\C1.brn"
"Path9"="\\Windows\\C0.brn"
"Path8"="\\Windows\\B5.brn"
"Path7"="\\Windows\\B3.brn"
"Path6"="\\Windows\\B1.brn"
"Path5"="\\Windows\\B0.brn"
"Path4"="\\Windows\\A5.brn"
"Path3"="\\Windows\\A3.brn"
"Path2"="\\Windows\\A1.brn"
"Path1"="\\Windows\\A0.brn"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\TFSettings]
"LinePos"=dword:0000002E
"NameSize"=dword:00000019
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"EnableSound"=dword:00000000
"PageHigh"=dword:00000008
"PageLow"=dword:00000005
"SpeedLow"=dword:00000041
"UpLength"=dword:0000012C
"DownLength"=dword:000001B8
"Boundry"=dword:000004B4
"FingerPressure"=dword:00000A8C
"2ndSample"=dword:00000012
"DelayDiff"=dword:00000028
"EnableCube"=dword:00000001
"1stSample"=dword:0000000C
"SpeedHigh"=dword:00000014
"PanType"=dword:00000001
"EnableScroll"=dword:00000001
The above settings work on my g4 wizard with only the attached htc_touchflo.zip copied to the windows directory. Anybody got a working quickdial.exe for the wizard? I've noticed there are different versions out there, maybe there is one that works. It needs to open up from the shortcut in the zip file and by no other means. Thanks
Well, I've tested different versions of the quickdial app that I've found and none of them seem to function. Am I wasting my time? Does anyone know?, please reply. Does anyone have any links to what files can be removed while conserving stability. For instance if I want to use advanced task manager, is it possible to remove the regular task manager files and links?
Hey all,
I have a very crazy provisioning script, this thing installs all my apps, moves start menu items, sets up e-mail, sets up network connections, and does a whole buttload of customizations (I am willing to share if you like) and I noticed that any app that needs to shutdown/access outlook during the script locks the phone because manila is running in the background. Even windows Livesearch asks to shut down outlook, but then the phone locks because i guess the manila process wont let it go. I havent tried PIM backup/restore with manila running, but I wanted to share my findings with everyone incase people were having problems.
To get around this, I have a part of my SDCONFIG that enables the phone so I can go to the today settings and turn off manila for the rest of the install.
I'd love to see a reply to this thread and see if anyone has found a workaround other than what I do.
Maybe some chefs can come up with some ideas like disabling manila before customizations begin and then turning it on in the registry before a reboot or something like that. We've got some great minds here im sure we can think of something!
~Rick
RickoT said:
Hey all,
I have a very crazy provisioning script, this thing installs all my apps, moves start menu items, sets up e-mail, sets up network connections, and does a whole buttload of customizations (I am willing to share if you like) and I noticed that any app that needs to shutdown/access outlook during the script locks the phone because manila is running in the background. Even windows Livesearch asks to shut down outlook, but then the phone locks because i guess the manila process wont let it go. I havent tried PIM backup/restore with manila running, but I wanted to share my findings with everyone incase people were having problems.
To get around this, I have a part of my SDCONFIG that enables the phone so I can go to the today settings and turn off manila for the rest of the install.
I'd love to see a reply to this thread and see if anyone has found a workaround other than what I do.
Maybe some chefs can come up with some ideas like disabling manila before customizations begin and then turning it on in the registry before a reboot or something like that. We've got some great minds here im sure we can think of something!
~Rick
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Maybe the chef when cooked in manilla can add reg key to disable at first boot, and then in the preconfig add a reg key to enable at next boot.
suggest it to the chef.
Either way man, Good disscussion!! and good luck
I'll have to test this in my roms to see if it's possible
Yah thats what I was thinking, only thing is that on my phone, my UC script reboots @ the end. So maybe they can just not have manila enabled my default then during the UC script it enables it in the registry after the boot. its pretty easy I have my UC script disable all of the default today items using the app I wrote TodayDisabler, then it goes into the reg and enables just the today plugins I typicaly use (need to update to use manila instead of HTC home and the others i use)
Hi I am new to this, i downloaded and installed the Diamond TF3d Config tool but I get that exception error. i am not sure what to do. i am pretty dumb when it comes to changing my registry i get to the key pressure threshold i got to modify and it reads as folows:name preassure threshold value (dec) 43 and value (hex)2b. Iread your info but not sure what a dword is or what to change. can you help? i have the Verizon HTC touch Pro if that helps.
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im having the same problem... i think we need a certain version.
you need to go into programs through file explorer and delete the tweaks file in the tf3d config folder
then it will work on the touch pro
Thank you ibmxx187
I did what you said and it work perfectly, thanks again.
Thank You..
this is why search helps noobs like me out.. thanks again!
Um, delete tweaks?
Ahh, yeah well deleted the tweaks like you said, and it finally opened the program. 1 problem though. Obvious one here, the main reason i wanted this was for the tweaks, guess what, i just deleted them. Useless.
Than you very much ibmxx187
thankyou so much ... Deleting the Tweeks file enabled the application to run
Thanks Again